[Goanet] The tale behind the tail (Response by Melvyn Fernandes)

2012-05-23 Thread Melvyn Fernandes
Dear Mervyn

It is always good to meet you on or off goanet, as I have stated before our 
people are like magnets where like poles repel, it is in our genes, hence I do 
not 
expect to start an argument. As you maybe aware, Goan people do not tell the 
right story but want to know everything, I prefer to deal with facts. There 
is an English saying Gentlemen in Rank, Empty in Bank, the English 
administrators (Bwana Kubas) from colonial East Africa are different from the 
local 
native population in the United Kingdom and probably took up residence in 
better class areas, such as a Bwana Karani as yourself. I wonder if they 
missed their shamba boys? I do not believe you did not encounter the racism 
that the majority of us did, we were called Pakis (wogs) and abused and 
spat at on the way to and from work, our school children had similar 
experiences. The newspapers actively encouraged race hate to increase sales and 
our people at work just got on with their jobs to earn their living. (Today, 
this is classed as a hate crime and can be recorded with the police). This 
was 
also a time when the working week was Monday to Friday, unlike the 24 hour 
working culture of today, everything was shut with our people having nothing 
to do other than meet, greet, socialise and dance to Goan music under 
chandeliers taking their troubles away. This was also the beginning of 
successful 
day time events by village organisations (still continuing to this day in the 
London area) as it was safer to travel on public transport in daylight. English 
people migrating to Canada were called Limeyes, Paki bashing was also an 
amusement there, all because of the colour of our skin. Over the years, our 
Indian cousins became employers while most of the Goan population are still 
employees despite having excelled in the professions. 

Among our people, GOASCORRI was formed GOA-Standing Committee on Race Relations 
and Immigration to monitor these events, one achievement I 
can remember is together with the Indian Workers Union based in Southall 
representations were made to Home Secretary William Whitelaw on virginity 
testing on brides from India, at least one woman was humiliated at Heathrow 
before a stop was put to this. I can't remember if this was before or after the 
Southall riots when you could do the police a favour by beating yourself up. 

Now, by kind favour of goanet, I respond to your posting, here goes:

1. Discrimination in the job market

In The Cambridge Survey of World Migration, the chapter on The Migration of 
East African Asians to the UK on page 336 this is what it says (NOTE the 
words racial exclusionism at work in every facet of life in Britain):

Quote:
However Robinson (1993) has undertaken such a piece of work using national 
data-sets measuring standard indicators of socio-economic status for the 
whole East African Asian minority in the UK. He noted the absence of 
qualitative inputs to the analysis and underlined the significance of these 
when 
considering the well-being of refugee groups. His findings were that, despite 
the powerful forces of racial exclusionism at work in every facet of life in 
Britain, the national profile of the group had changed considerably between the 
early 1970s and the mid-1980s despite the deepest recession the country 
had seen since the 1930s. East African Asians had acquired better formal 
qualifications than their Indian or white British counterparts, were over-
represented in self-employment, had transported their socio-economic profile 
more rapidly than either of the other two groups, were found in better 
accommodation than were Indians, and had achieved all of this without the 
secondary migration which was such a feature of the subsequent Vietnamese 
arrivals.
Unquote

Vaughan Robinson has also written Marching into the Middle Classes? The Long 
Term Resettlement of East African Asians in the UK which has the 
following abstract (NOTE the words despite the exclusionary barriers erected 
by racism):

Quote:
This paper uses a range of national quantitative data to assess the long-term 
resettlement of East African Asians in Britain. It argues that they have made 
considerable material progress in the UK despite the exclusionary barriers 
erected by racism. 
Unquote

Readers can find these using their search engine.

2. Culture of bribery

As you have indicated you are an avid reader of Goan Voice UK, so you will 
already be familiar with the current bribery issue which is being investigated 
in 
Swindon.

3. Property value of houses falling when coloureds moved in

If you go to the website 
www.movinghere.org.uk/galleries/histories/asian/settling/settling.htm and 
scroll down to housing this is what it says:

Quote:
Early post-war South Asian migrants faced prejudice in finding private rented 
accommodation and council housing. A survey by Willesden Council of press 
advertisements for accommodation in the local press showed that 90 per cent of 

Re: [Goanet] The tale behind the tail (Response by Melvyn Fernandes)

2012-05-23 Thread Gabe Menezes
On 23 May 2012 16:46, Melvyn Fernandes mel...@orange.net wrote:

 Dear Mervyn

 It is always good to meet you on or off goanet, as I have stated before
 our people are like magnets where like poles repel, it is in our genes,
 hence I do not
 expect to start an argument. As you maybe aware, Goan people do not tell
 the right story but want to know everything, I prefer to deal with facts.

 Melvyn Fernandes
 Thornton Heath, Surrey, United Kingdom

 23 May 2012

 melvynfernan...@virginmedia.com


RESPONSE: A good argument. See also Britain's schools record 115 racist
incidents a day as four in five teachers admit they have seen pupils being
abused

Read more:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2148621/Britains-schools-record-115-racist-incidents-day-teachers-admit-seen-pupils-abused.html#ixzz1viIv7hcR

Former Liverpool star John Barnes says society is to blame for racism
problem that football just can't shift
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/competitions/premier-league/8898054/Former-Liverpool-star-John-Barnes-says-society-is-to-blame-for-racism-problem-that-football-just-cant-shift.html





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