Re: [Goanet] What will President Joe Biden mean for South Asia? (Dhaka Tribune, 29/10/2020)

2020-10-30 Thread Venantius J Pinto
Likewise brilliant, Roland.
Many of my schoolmates in India have turned zealots. No matter what I
shared - for one vocal MoF** it was fake this and fake that.

Venantius

On Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 2:25 PM Roland Francis 
wrote:

> Well said Naguesh.
> Better to be allied with a friend who sometimes questions your actions
> than a madman who can never have any relationship with you.
>
> Roland.
> Toronto.
>
>
> > On Oct 29, 2020, at 12:11 PM, Naguesh Bhatcar 
> wrote:
> >
> > There has been no other unpredictable US President than Trump, in recent
> memory.
> > Many Indians in the US are supporting Trump, only because of his
> anti-Muslim stance. And Trump coddles up to the rich Saudis, as they have
> helped his business interests!
> > He has not said a word about the Khashoggi murder.
> >
> > If we believe that he is forever going to support India, they are
> mistaken. All he wants is business opportunities in India for him and his
> family.
> > He is ready to bury anyone that does not help/support him, as can be
> seen from his vindictive actions against the likes of Jeff Sessions.
> > Jeff Sessions, the first Republican Senator to support him in 2016,
> refused to defend him as the Attorney General of the US and he
> unceremoniously booted him out.
> > And legally, no Attorney General can defend the President, like a
> private lawyer.
> >
> > I have received WhatsApp messages and writeups, with concerns on how a
> Biden-Harris administration could be detrimental to India, just because
> they questioned some of the
> > happenings in India and more particularly related to Kashmir. It is as
> if the US is only focused on India!
> > In general, no US Administration has ever been anti-India, with perhaps
> Nixon being an exception. Indira Gandhi at times foolishly crossed swords
> with the US, in the
> > name of Non-Alignment and support of Muslim nations and her anti-Israel
> stance. And look at where India is now, with excellent relations with not
> just Israel, but even other
> > Muslim nations of the Middle East.
> >
> > Shashi Tharoor's assertions/hopes about Biden-Harris raising the Kashmir
> and CAA issues, might simply be a dream.
> >
> > NB
> >
> > ____________
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> > Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2020 9:44 AM
> > To: V M 
> > Subject: [Goanet] What will President Joe Biden mean for South Asia?
> (Dhaka Tribune, 29/10/2020)
> >
> >
> https://www.dhakatribune.com/opinion/op-ed/2020/10/29/op-ed-what-will-president-joe-biden-mean-for-south-asia
> >
> > Polls have been wrong before, but it’s looking increasingly certain
> >
> >
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Re: [Goanet] What will President Joe Biden mean for South Asia? (Dhaka Tribune, 29/10/2020)

2020-10-29 Thread Roland Francis
Well said Naguesh.
Better to be allied with a friend who sometimes questions your actions than a 
madman who can never have any relationship with you.

Roland.
Toronto.


> On Oct 29, 2020, at 12:11 PM, Naguesh Bhatcar  wrote:
> 
> There has been no other unpredictable US President than Trump, in recent 
> memory.
> Many Indians in the US are supporting Trump, only because of his anti-Muslim 
> stance. And Trump coddles up to the rich Saudis, as they have helped his 
> business interests!
> He has not said a word about the Khashoggi murder.
> 
> If we believe that he is forever going to support India, they are mistaken. 
> All he wants is business opportunities in India for him and his family.
> He is ready to bury anyone that does not help/support him, as can be seen 
> from his vindictive actions against the likes of Jeff Sessions.
> Jeff Sessions, the first Republican Senator to support him in 2016, refused 
> to defend him as the Attorney General of the US and he unceremoniously booted 
> him out.
> And legally, no Attorney General can defend the President, like a private 
> lawyer.
> 
> I have received WhatsApp messages and writeups, with concerns on how a 
> Biden-Harris administration could be detrimental to India, just because they 
> questioned some of the
> happenings in India and more particularly related to Kashmir. It is as if the 
> US is only focused on India!
> In general, no US Administration has ever been anti-India, with perhaps Nixon 
> being an exception. Indira Gandhi at times foolishly crossed swords with the 
> US, in the
> name of Non-Alignment and support of Muslim nations and her anti-Israel 
> stance. And look at where India is now, with excellent relations with not 
> just Israel, but even other
> Muslim nations of the Middle East.
> 
> Shashi Tharoor's assertions/hopes about Biden-Harris raising the Kashmir and 
> CAA issues, might simply be a dream.
> 
> NB
> 
> ________
> From: Goanet  on behalf of V M 
> 
> Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2020 9:44 AM
> To: V M 
> Subject: [Goanet] What will President Joe Biden mean for South Asia? (Dhaka 
> Tribune, 29/10/2020)
> 
> https://www.dhakatribune.com/opinion/op-ed/2020/10/29/op-ed-what-will-president-joe-biden-mean-for-south-asia
> 
> Polls have been wrong before, but it’s looking increasingly certain
> 
> 
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Re: [Goanet] What will President Joe Biden mean for South Asia? (Dhaka Tribune, 29/10/2020)

2020-10-29 Thread Naguesh Bhatcar
There has been no other unpredictable US President than Trump, in recent memory.
Many Indians in the US are supporting Trump, only because of his anti-Muslim 
stance. And Trump coddles up to the rich Saudis, as they have helped his 
business interests!
He has not said a word about the Khashoggi murder.

If we believe that he is forever going to support India, they are mistaken. All 
he wants is business opportunities in India for him and his family.
He is ready to bury anyone that does not help/support him, as can be seen from 
his vindictive actions against the likes of Jeff Sessions.
Jeff Sessions, the first Republican Senator to support him in 2016, refused to 
defend him as the Attorney General of the US and he unceremoniously booted him 
out.
And legally, no Attorney General can defend the President, like a private 
lawyer.

I have received WhatsApp messages and writeups, with concerns on how a 
Biden-Harris administration could be detrimental to India, just because they 
questioned some of the
happenings in India and more particularly related to Kashmir. It is as if the 
US is only focused on India!
In general, no US Administration has ever been anti-India, with perhaps Nixon 
being an exception. Indira Gandhi at times foolishly crossed swords with the 
US, in the
name of Non-Alignment and support of Muslim nations and her anti-Israel stance. 
And look at where India is now, with excellent relations with not just Israel, 
but even other
Muslim nations of the Middle East.

Shashi Tharoor's assertions/hopes about Biden-Harris raising the Kashmir and 
CAA issues, might simply be a dream.

NB


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[Goanet] What will President Joe Biden mean for South Asia? (Dhaka Tribune, 29/10/2020)

2020-10-29 Thread V M
https://www.dhakatribune.com/opinion/op-ed/2020/10/29/op-ed-what-will-president-joe-biden-mean-for-south-asia

Polls have been wrong before, but it’s looking increasingly certain
that Donald Trump and his Republicans will decisively lose next week’s
election. Early next year, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris will take over
as president and vice-president, and the US leadership will swing back
into the Democratic ambit.

There’s plenty at stake for South Asian countries, but less than might
seem obvious from the vastly different personal styles of the brash,
bloviating incumbent and his understated, empathetic (and visibly
elderly) challenger.

As the wily imperialist warmonger Lord Palmerston put it, “it is a
narrow policy to suppose that this country or that is to be marked out
as the eternal ally or the perpetual enemy. We have no eternal allies,
and we have no perpetual enemies. Our interests are eternal and
perpetual, and those interests it is our duty to follow.”

When it comes to the United States and South Asia, there are two sets
of permanent interests at play in the superpower’s calculus:
geopolitical power, and internal electoral politics. The former
dominated overwhelmingly until the 21st century, but then South Asian
American voters emerged an increasingly potent force, possessing the
capacity to swing some states, as well as contribute funds far out of
proportion to their numbers.

Here it’s vital to note that Indian Americans (and there is good
reason to believe these trends are equally pronounced amongst other
South Asian diaspora groups) always overwhelmingly support the
Democrats, and close to 80% are expected to vote for Biden/Harris this
year as well.

What is more, this loyal bloc doesn’t really care about the American
government’s positions towards their ancestral homeland. According to
a fascinating survey released earlier this month by the Carnegie
Endowment for International Peace, Johns Hopkins School of Advanced
International Studies and the University of Pennsylvania, only 3% of
Indian American voters listed foreign policy as their number 1 issue.
Everyone else cited the economy, health care, and racial
discrimination.

This is largely to be expected from what is in many ways the richest,
best-educated, and most highly integrated immigrant demographic in US
history.

These are not disaffected people. They think America is already pretty
great. Naturally, they’re alarmed by Trump’s rage, racism, and
extremist supporters. The fact that Joe Biden picked a running mate
with Tamilian roots is a bonus, albeit one that is likely to make a
policy difference.

“In the event of a Biden victory, it's clear India won't be
overlooked, let alone forgotten, in an administration of which Kamala
Harris is a senior member” says Shashi Tharoor, the veteran
international diplomat (he ran for the post of UN Secretary-General in
2006), prolific author, and popular MP who served as India’s Minister
of State for External Affairs under Manmohan Singh.

He told me Harris “is bound to be a strong voice for democracy and
human rights generally, but that could put her at odds with some of
the Modi government's actions, such as on Kashmir, the CAA and the
situation of India's Muslim minority. When you care about a country
you won't be indifferent to it, and are more likely to take a stand on
issues agitating the community.”

Tharoor says, “Mr Trump has not always been ideal for India -- his
stands on trade and tariffs, and on India's environmental policies,
could hardly have been welcome in New Delhi -- but he has been
uncritical of Mr Modi's domestic politics and his divisive Hindutva
agenda.”

He pointed out, “there are always continuities in any country's
foreign policy, all the more so that of a superpower like the US, with
well-defined interests and well-established engagements around the
world. That said, where Trump departed from his predecessors was not
only in his rhetoric, which was often ill-phrased and intemperate; but
also in his resort to 3am tweets on major policy issues, such as to
the "Little Rocket Man" in North Korea; his unpredictability and
tendency to change attitudes at a moment's notice, as with China and
President Xi, which has gone from bromance to Cold War; his extreme
transactionalism, resulting even in a mini-trade war with a country he
was trying to woo, India; and his inability to stay the course (eg
bombing Syria one day in April 2017, and failing to follow through for
the next three and a half years).

The bottom line? Tharoor says, “I believe the US's South Asia policy
has evolved definitively the way it has and there is bipartisan
consensus in both capitals that underpin it, not to mention the
influence of the significant Indian diaspora in the US, which will
ensure India's continued salience in Washington. While I do expect
course correction on global issues like multilateralism (I expect
Biden to reverse Trump's decision to pull the US out of WHO, for
instance) I do not expect