Re: [Goanet] Floriano's Sunday Ramblings-10 and -Vivek's response
- Original Message - From: Vivek [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: goanet@goanet.org Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2006 9:26 PM Subject: [Goanet] Floriano's sunday rambling Foriano says: And come to think of it, it is not surprising that some ex-pat Goans have taken it on themselves to lecture us at Goa Su-Raj on the need of a 'national party' to rule us in Goa. Whatever happened to the regional pride, I wonder! Vivek: If the reference is to my comments earlier i would like to coment some more: Floriano: I must admit that the reference is right and you are most welcom. Vivek: The idea that a regional party with a state centric agenda will benefit the state has been debunked in the past. If history is any indicator almost all regional outfits have started out with lofty principles and have degenerated into dynastic corrupt regimes pandering to chauvinist aspirations of their constituents. Regional pride has never helped anyone! Floriano: That is according to you. You may hold whatever opinion you want. But according to me you are blatantly wrong. If your opinion is the right one than why don't Punjabis call themselves just Indians? Likewise Sindhis, Gujaratis, Maharashtrians. Bengalis, Goans etc. Let us call ourselves Indians like Japanenese call themselves Japanese... Lofty ideals??? Comunidades is lofty ideals? Good Governance sans graft is lofty ideals? These are not lofty ideals but practical ideals, ideals that we all live with, eat and breathe. Those who pander to chauvinist aspirations are political con-men. And you should be smart enough to identify them. Don't put everyone in the same basket. Vivek: Frederick was correct in saying that one must appeal to all sections of society in order to be politically acceptable. One can not just aspire to win power and rule solely based on a set of principles , however ideal those may be. Floriano: First off, Frederick must know who he is addressing these standard sentences to. I have told him to read our Road Map first and then make his comments, if he is talking about Goa Su-Raj. Standard lines just to make one's point fluid, do not apply to Goa Su-Raj because we have seen to it that we have eliminated all biases and differences between classes of Goan people and have made Goa Su-Raj fully and universally representative of Goa and Goans. One cannot just aspire to win power and rule solely based on a set of principles?? Do you yourself know what you are talking about?? Principles, for your kind information, are Principles. There are no these principles and those principles.There are no ' superior' principles and 'inferior' principles. There are no 'good' and 'bad' principles. If you want to argue, do your homework well. I read each and every word that is being said. Vivek: As far as the Portuguese punishments go, does Floriano believe it was ok for the Portuguese police to detain two seemingly innocent individuals and violate their human rights by shaving off their xendis? Is this the kind of policing that Floriano wants to implement? Floriano: Just remember that the Portuguese regime was a dictatorship. And dictators do not recognise even humans,forget about human rights. Remember Hitler, Milosevich et al??. What I was conveying by those happenings is that the punishment was light but on the spot and mostly very humiliating. That is why there were no crimes (relatively as now) in Goa during that regime. Sure, you give me half a chance and I shall do just that. Someone has to put the lousy democracy into the pocket the moment approprite laws are made before the democracy puts us into its pockets, like the one we have in Goa now. Vivek: Bhausaheb bandodkar was a visionary and a product of his times. To heap scorn on him not only reflects a poor understanding of goas history but is also an indicator of a biased mindset. Bhau may not have been flawless but to tar all his actions with tne brush is unfair. Floriano: Oh yes! His vision of Goa was a kaleidoscope of technicolor of merger with Maharashtra. His Tenancy Act was so visionary that it wiped off the centuries old indegenous GAUNKARIES (Portuguese applelation Comunidades). And those GAUNKARIES were the brainchild of our forefathers where Bandodkar was not the inheritor but we Goans were and are. Goa's Orchards, cultivable fields all went the same visionary way to the tenants because these were predominantly held by Goan Hindus. However Goa's 'SALT PANS' didn't figure in Bandodkar's vision because these were held predominantly by Christians (95 %). Please check your statistics and tell me I am wrong. Bandodkar was absolutely communal, and, you don't have to take my word for it. Listen to what Adv. Amrut Kansar has to say or has said and probably say no more. Mr. Kansar was part of Bandodkar's gang at one time. And the man of 'letters' Mr. Atre's ( a Maharashtrian) special title for Bandodkar is 'MATRAGANINI' . It is the Marathi word. If you don't know the meaning,
[Goanet] floriano's Sunday Ramblings-10
And it was refreshing to read Sucheta Potnis' piece in the GT (Jul 4, 2006) captioned Fitting Punishment, the on the spot purges for peeing in public, for erratic driving, no matter who, for ejecting garbage missiles of plastic bags out from two wheelers, cars and buses etc. And I promise Sucheta that when Goa Su-Raj takes over Goa's governance from these existing political hyenas, who, through their incompetence and 'arslekar' attitude to consolidate their vote-banks, have inadvertently cultivated these seemingly minor irritants which actually are the biggest headaches, will stop automatically before one could say jack-robbins, for, this is the most prized recipe that we at Goa Su-Raj have been refining on, to replace the fine-chalans, arrests and court cases, with on the spot simple but humiliating purges. And this recipe has been cooking with us on the line of the erstwhile Portuguese regime. And it would not be proper for me not to give a couple of examples of the effective recipe used by the Portuguese in Goa. Ex 1: Seems a young Dhobitalao (Bombay) toughie was in Goa to stand by the side of a dear friend getting married, as his 'BESTMAN', sporting a Michael Jackson/Rajesh Khanna hair-style. It is believed that at the Panjim-Betim ferry crossing this young toughie got into an argument with the policeman (soldad) over some silly misdemeanor. He was hauled to the Police station pronto, where he probably and proudly confessed that he was in Goa to be the bestman for his friend. Next twenty minutes he was walking back to the ferry, sporting only half the hair do with the other half cleanly shaved off. Good-bye 'DEHD'EA' (the Konkani word for bestman). This lad would probably give a wide berth to a policeman on duty throughout his entire life. A lesson well learnt?. Ex. 2: As I well remember those good old days, the Portuguese police used to patrol at random at the dead of the night. During one such patrol at Siolim, a couple of guys were seen squatting/sleeping in the verandah of a closed house. The patrol hauled them up to the Mapusa quartel (PS) thinking that they were thieves. On questioning, this duo told the police that they were friends and neighbours and that they always sleep in the verandah at night. Both came out in the morning with a stern warning to sleep in their own houses henceforth but without their XHENDIs ( typical Indian strip of long hair at the back of the head) that both were sporting. Surprise of Surprises !. This particular action by the Portuguese police was to become the duo's passport to get into the list of Goa's freedom fighters. And one of them has been recently honoured at Goa's Azad Maidan at the hands of our esteemed Governor and the Chief Minister. Yes! Have a good laugh. And once again the Official Language of Goa, our 'Mai Bhas' has come to haunt us Goans with Devnagri versus Romi conflict in the making. And as usual, the government of the day, which is the legitimate Government of Goa, when dealing with this sensitive issue of the State's official language, has coyly and irresponsibly passed it on to its High Command in Delhi. instead of putting its heads together and coming to a mutual understanding to solve the problem. And, look who is talking about 'Communal disruptions' !! What communal disruptions are the mergerists talking about??? Why?? Is the Congress lead coalition incapable of solving this Goa Centric problem, which is the legitimate demand of Goans? What has Goans got to do with the Congress' Delhi High Command and Madame Sonia Gandhi?. Or, for that matter, with any Command at all? The people of Goa are indeed foolish. They cannot see the foot that is kicking them in their butts, but are content to lick the hand that is slapping them in their faces, all with greedy hopes that the very hand will feed them sufficiently well and even pat their backs for them for enduring the kicks and slaps. Louts of the first order that we Goans are, I say. Instead of kicking the Congress out of Goa and onto Delhi, we are tolerating it. And Churchill has made it his business to eat in the Congress plate with one hand and brush the food off the plate with the other. That way he is going to be a very hungry man in times to come. And come to think of it, it is not surprising that some ex-pat Goans have taken it on themselves to lecture us at Goa Su-Raj on the need of a 'national party' to rule us in Goa. Whatever happened to the regional pride, I wonder! How submissive and bankrupt could we become, is the question our future generations will have to answer for us. And, in what way are we wrong at Goa Su-Raj when we ask Goans to say 'Yes' to Goa's own Command in Goa?? KONKANI in any script is still KONKANI, our ' MOTHER TONGUE'. And who is Adv. Uday Bhembre to tell us otherwise or Madam Sonia Gandhi to decide for us?? Let our KONKANI be expressed in as many scripts as possible and let Goans enjoy the benefits of them all. This way