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http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180028.html
Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2009 17:37:47 -0400
From: Joe Lobo
For those of our Goans who do not care about happenings
beyond their villages..
One must remember that the Israeli State was born with
massive theft of land from Arab Palestenians ( ...why else
would refugee camps suddenly have been born with the birth
of the new jewish State ?).and the theft continues till
today with the assent of the E.U. and the USA.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8180413.stm
Mario responds:
Hey, Joe,
Nice try are re-writing history, but, unfortunately for your fairy tales, some
of us also care about the REAL facts about the region you are referring to.
It seems to have escaped your attention that Jews were among the original
inhabitants of the region since before the time of Christ. You may find some
clues about this in the Bible.
Perhaps it has also escaped your attention that the Brits and UN did come up
with a two state solution of a homeland for Palestinian Arabs and Jews in 1947,
including Jews who had survived the Nazi attempt at genocide in Europe. The
Arabs got the bulk of the land, but they wanted it all. The partition plan was
accepted by the Jews but not by the Arabs.
You are obviously unaware that, instead of negotiating their grievances through
the UN, five Arab countries decided to take the law into their own hands and
invaded Israel in 1948 to "push the Jews into the sea". It was during this war
that many Arabs abandoned their land to avoid the conflict. This is how they
ended up in refugee camps, not because anyone "stole" their land.
After Israel had defeated all five Arab invaders simultaneously, they held on
to the land because the Arabs have continued to try and "push them into the
sea" or "wipe them off the map" and have never accepted their right to exist as
a state.
Until the Arabs accept Israel's right to exist and quit trying to wipe them off
the map by force, no right thinking person should have any sympathy for their
plight.
Accusing Israel of "theft" of land acquired while defending themselves would be
even more bizarre than accusing Pakistanis of "theft" of land belonging to
Hindus who ran away from Pakistan after partition to save their lives. BTW,
none of the Hindus were ever compensated by anyone.
Unlike the Arabs, who are still trying to eliminate Israel 62 years later, the
Hindus accepted the partition and moved on with their lives.
Since you have so much catching up to do, perhaps the following information may
be a place to start in realizing what is really going on in that unfortunate
region:
http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=329958167572453
http://www.factsandlogic.org/ad_39.html
Excerpt:
Despite decisive military defeats in the wars that they have launched against
the Jewish state since the very day of its birth, the Arabs, in an almost
unbelievable act of mental acrobatics, deny the existence of the country that
has inflicted such severe and repeated punishment on them. When it becomes
inevitable to mention the Jewish state it is referred to only as "the Zionist
entity."
This non-acknowledgement of Israel's existence is not simply a matter of
semantics. Arab maps do not show Israel, but a vast area, including Jordan,
labeled as "Palestine." Cities such as Tel Aviv and Haifa simply don't exist.
Arab school children, though imbued from earliest age with hatred of the Jews,
have no "official" knowledge of the existence of Israel. They learn about it,
one supposes, just as they learn about sex, by whispered comments in the
schoolyard. Schedules of foreign airlines that show Israel on their route maps
or that list Israeli destinations are not allowed in the countries.
[end of excerpt]
