Re: [Goanet] Abide with Me

[Venantius J Pinto]

Hello Mervyn!


*I copied the complete lyrics of the rendition of KARIBU NA WEWE, by Msanii
Records Choral, from the video at:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlyogmgXAVg
*

Karibu na wewe, Mungu wangu:
Karibu Zaidi Bwana wangu,
Siku zote niwe Karibu na Wewe,
Karibu zaidi, Mungu wangu.

Mimi nasafiri duniani,
Pa kupumzika sipaonio.,
Nilalapo niwe karibu na Weve,
Karibu zaidi, Mungu wangu.

Yote unipayo yanivuta
Pa kukaribia nitapata;
Na nielekezwe, karibu na Weve,
Karibu zaidi, Mungu wangu.

Ba kwa nguvu zangu nikusifu;
Mwamba, uwe maji ya wokovu
Mashakani niwe karibu na Weve;
Karibu zaidi, Mungu wangu.

Na nyumbani mwa juu, Baba yangu
Nikinyakunliwa toka huko,
Kwa furaha niwe pamoja na Weve,
Karibu zaidi, Mungu wangu.
+

Best all,
Venantius

On Sat, Jan 29, 2022 at 2:54 AM Mervyn Maciel <
mervynels.watuwasha...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Venantius,
>
> Thanks for this lovely rendition in Swahili by this African choir.
> Now it is a question of mastering the words and playing it on my harmonica.
> Thanks again.
>
>
> Mervyn
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On 29 Jan 2022, at 01:27, Venantius J Pinto 
> wrote:
>
> Hello Adolfo, Hello Melwynm and all!
>
>
>
> *Consider this rendition KARIBU NA WEWE, by Msanii Records
> Choralhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlyogmgXAVg
> *
>
> Karibu na wewe, Mungu wangu:
> Karibu Zaidi Bwana wangu,
> Siku zote niwe Karibu na Wewe,
> Karibu zaidi, Mungu wangu.
>
> Mimi nasafiri duniani,
> Pa kupumzika sipaonio.,
> Nilalapo niwe karibu na Weve,
>
> Venantius
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 4:51 AM Adolfo Mascarenhas 
> wrote:
>
>> Mervyn
>> Thank you very much for sharing your views on Nearer My God .I know
>> you
>> sing the Hymn at Funerals ...I can picture the scene and mood.  There must
>> be a Swahili Version.  The purpose of writing to you is to do us another
>> favour..Could you petition the Queen of GB  to give the Order of the
>> Great Boot *(OGB)* .to a certain Netters who would like to join the Modi
>> militants.
>>
>> As they say Let us not be harsh of this individual > We all know
>> what happened to  Saul when he was struck down from his horse..This
>> netter residing in White GB might even volunteer to go to El Salvador
>> Guatemala .
>> I am so grateful to Fr. Naik for putting us and especially me into the
>> broader picturewe as individuals do not have to praise Hitlers, the
>> Churchills and Enoch Powell or Mr Kim of North Korea
>>
>> Grandolfo
>> I am suddenly conscious that although I visited nearly all African and
>> European countries, many Asian Countries...from Japan to Singapore,
>> Thailand, Indonesia .my  exposure to Latin American countries is
>> zilch..only  Panama  !!!  It's a long story why I did not go to Chile .
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 11:29 PM Mervyn Maciel <
>> mervynels.watuwasha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi Bwana,
>> >
>> > All the controversy being stirred up over this lovely hymn which I love
>> > and have sung on many occasions - especially at funerals too.
>> >  Those who doubt the existence of God - and there are some among
>> > our own people should listen to these two love pieces.
>> > Kwaheri Bwana.
>> >
>> >
>> > Mzee Mervyn
>> >
>>
>

Re: [Goanet] Abide with Me

[Venantius J Pinto]

Awesome Melvyn. Write them large and keep the placards where you can see
them. Or more. The last lbs us the same in all the verses. A memory
technique. I am a few months over 60. IRock on.

On Sun, Jan 30, 2022 at 2:29 AM Mervyn Maciel <
mervynels.watuwasha...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks for that,Venantius.
> Am now trying to memorise at least 2 verses -not easy @ nearly 93!
>
> Mervyn
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On 30 Jan 2022, at 05:40, Venantius J Pinto 
> wrote:
>
> Hello Mervyn!
>
>
> *I copied the complete lyrics of the rendition of KARIBU NA WEWE, by
> Msanii Records Choral, from the video at:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlyogmgXAVg
> *
>
> Karibu na wewe, Mungu wangu:
> Karibu Zaidi Bwana wangu,
> Siku zote niwe Karibu na Wewe,
> Karibu zaidi, Mungu wangu.
>
> Mimi nasafiri duniani,
> Pa kupumzika sipaonio.,
> Nilalapo niwe karibu na Weve,
> Karibu zaidi, Mungu wangu.
>
> Yote unipayo yanivuta
> Pa kukaribia nitapata;
> Na nielekezwe, karibu na Weve,
> Karibu zaidi, Mungu wangu.
>
> Ba kwa nguvu zangu nikusifu;
> Mwamba, uwe maji ya wokovu
> Mashakani niwe karibu na Weve;
> Karibu zaidi, Mungu wangu.
>
> Na nyumbani mwa juu, Baba yangu
> Nikinyakunliwa toka huko,
> Kwa furaha niwe pamoja na Weve,
> Karibu zaidi, Mungu wangu.
> +
>
> Best all,
> Venantius
>
> On Sat, Jan 29, 2022 at 2:54 AM Mervyn Maciel <
> mervynels.watuwasha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Venantius,
>>
>> Thanks for this lovely rendition in Swahili by this African choir.
>> Now it is a question of mastering the words and playing it on my
>> harmonica.
>> Thanks again.
>>
>>
>> Mervyn
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On 29 Jan 2022, at 01:27, Venantius J Pinto 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello Adolfo, Hello Melwynm and all!
>>
>>
>>
>> *Consider this rendition KARIBU NA WEWE, by Msanii Records
>> Choralhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlyogmgXAVg
>> *
>>
>> Karibu na wewe, Mungu wangu:
>> Karibu Zaidi Bwana wangu,
>> Siku zote niwe Karibu na Wewe,
>> Karibu zaidi, Mungu wangu.
>>
>> Mimi nasafiri duniani,
>> Pa kupumzika sipaonio.,
>> Nilalapo niwe karibu na Weve,
>>
>> Venantius
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 4:51 AM Adolfo Mascarenhas 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Mervyn
>>> Thank you very much for sharing your views on Nearer My God .I know
>>> you
>>> sing the Hymn at Funerals ...I can picture the scene and mood.  There
>>> must
>>> be a Swahili Version.  The purpose of writing to you is to do us another
>>> favour..Could you petition the Queen of GB  to give the Order of the
>>> Great Boot *(OGB)* .to a certain Netters who would like to join the Modi
>>> militants.
>>>
>>> As they say Let us not be harsh of this individual > We all know
>>> what happened to  Saul when he was struck down from his horse..This
>>> netter residing in White GB might even volunteer to go to El Salvador
>>> Guatemala .
>>> I am so grateful to Fr. Naik for putting us and especially me into the
>>> broader picturewe as individuals do not have to praise Hitlers, the
>>> Churchills and Enoch Powell or Mr Kim of North Korea
>>>
>>> Grandolfo
>>> I am suddenly conscious that although I visited nearly all African and
>>> European countries, many Asian Countries...from Japan to Singapore,
>>> Thailand, Indonesia .my  exposure to Latin American countries is
>>> zilch..only  Panama  !!!  It's a long story why I did not go to Chile .
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 11:29 PM Mervyn Maciel <
>>> mervynels.watuwasha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Hi Bwana,
>>> >
>>> > All the controversy being stirred up over this lovely hymn which I love
>>> > and have sung on many occasions - especially at funerals too.
>>> >  Those who doubt the existence of God - and there are some among
>>> > our own people should listen to these two love pieces.
>>> > Kwaheri Bwana.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Mzee Mervyn
>>> >
>>>
>>

Re: [Goanet] Abide with Me

[Mervyn Maciel]

Thanks for that,Venantius.
Am now trying to memorise at least 2 verses -not easy @ nearly 93!

Mervyn

Sent from my iPad

> On 30 Jan 2022, at 05:40, Venantius J Pinto  wrote:
> 
> Hello Mervyn! 
> 
> I copied the complete lyrics of the rendition of KARIBU NA WEWE, by Msanii 
> Records Choral, from the video at: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlyogmgXAVg
> 
> Karibu na wewe, Mungu wangu:
> Karibu Zaidi Bwana wangu, 
> Siku zote niwe Karibu na Wewe, 
> Karibu zaidi, Mungu wangu. 
> 
> Mimi nasafiri duniani, 
> Pa kupumzika sipaonio., 
> Nilalapo niwe karibu na Weve, 
> Karibu zaidi, Mungu wangu. 
> 
> Yote unipayo yanivuta 
> Pa kukaribia nitapata;
> Na nielekezwe, karibu na Weve, 
> Karibu zaidi, Mungu wangu. 
> 
> Ba kwa nguvu zangu nikusifu; 
> Mwamba, uwe maji ya wokovu 
> Mashakani niwe karibu na Weve; 
> Karibu zaidi, Mungu wangu. 
> 
> Na nyumbani mwa juu, Baba yangu 
> Nikinyakunliwa toka huko, 
> Kwa furaha niwe pamoja na Weve, 
> Karibu zaidi, Mungu wangu. 
> + 
> 
> Best all, 
> Venantius
> 
>> On Sat, Jan 29, 2022 at 2:54 AM Mervyn Maciel 
>>  wrote:
>> Hi Venantius,
>> 
>> Thanks for this lovely rendition in Swahili by this African choir.
>> Now it is a question of mastering the words and playing it on my harmonica.
>> Thanks again.
>> 
>> 
>> Mervyn
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On 29 Jan 2022, at 01:27, Venantius J Pinto  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Adolfo, Hello Melwynm and all! 
>>> 
>>> Consider this rendition KARIBU NA WEWE, by Msanii Records Choral
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlyogmgXAVg
>>> 
>>> Karibu na wewe, Mungu wangu:
>>> Karibu Zaidi Bwana wangu, 
>>> Siku zote niwe Karibu na Wewe, 
>>> Karibu zaidi, Mungu wangu. 
>>> 
>>> Mimi nasafiri duniani, 
>>> Pa kupumzika sipaonio., 
>>> Nilalapo niwe karibu na Weve, 
>>> 
>>> Venantius
>>> 
>>> 
 On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 4:51 AM Adolfo Mascarenhas  
 wrote:
 Mervyn
 Thank you very much for sharing your views on Nearer My God .I know you
 sing the Hymn at Funerals ...I can picture the scene and mood.  There must
 be a Swahili Version.  The purpose of writing to you is to do us another
 favour..Could you petition the Queen of GB  to give the Order of the
 Great Boot *(OGB)* .to a certain Netters who would like to join the Modi
 militants.
 
 As they say Let us not be harsh of this individual > We all know
 what happened to  Saul when he was struck down from his horse..This
 netter residing in White GB might even volunteer to go to El Salvador
 Guatemala .
 I am so grateful to Fr. Naik for putting us and especially me into the
 broader picturewe as individuals do not have to praise Hitlers, the
 Churchills and Enoch Powell or Mr Kim of North Korea
 
 Grandolfo
 I am suddenly conscious that although I visited nearly all African and
 European countries, many Asian Countries...from Japan to Singapore,
 Thailand, Indonesia .my  exposure to Latin American countries is
 zilch..only  Panama  !!!  It's a long story why I did not go to Chile .
 
 
 On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 11:29 PM Mervyn Maciel <
 mervynels.watuwasha...@gmail.com> wrote:
 
 > Hi Bwana,
 >
 > All the controversy being stirred up over this lovely hymn which I love
 > and have sung on many occasions - especially at funerals too.
 >  Those who doubt the existence of God - and there are some among
 > our own people should listen to these two love pieces.
 > Kwaheri Bwana.
 >
 >
 > Mzee Mervyn
 >

Re: [Goanet] Abide with Me

[Venantius J Pinto]

Hello Adolfo, Hello Melwynm and all!



*Consider this rendition KARIBU NA WEWE, by Msanii Records
Choralhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlyogmgXAVg
*

Karibu na wewe, Mungu wangu:
Karibu Zaidi Bwana wangu,
Siku zote niwe Karibu na Wewe,
Karibu zaidi, Mungu wangu.

Mimi nasafiri duniani,
Pa kupumzika sipaonio.,
Nilalapo niwe karibu na Weve,

Venantius



On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 4:51 AM Adolfo Mascarenhas 
wrote:

> Mervyn
> Thank you very much for sharing your views on Nearer My God .I know you
> sing the Hymn at Funerals ...I can picture the scene and mood.  There must
> be a Swahili Version.  The purpose of writing to you is to do us another
> favour..Could you petition the Queen of GB  to give the Order of the
> Great Boot *(OGB)* .to a certain Netters who would like to join the Modi
> militants.
>
> As they say Let us not be harsh of this individual > We all know
> what happened to  Saul when he was struck down from his horse..This
> netter residing in White GB might even volunteer to go to El Salvador
> Guatemala .
> I am so grateful to Fr. Naik for putting us and especially me into the
> broader picturewe as individuals do not have to praise Hitlers, the
> Churchills and Enoch Powell or Mr Kim of North Korea
>
> Grandolfo
> I am suddenly conscious that although I visited nearly all African and
> European countries, many Asian Countries...from Japan to Singapore,
> Thailand, Indonesia .my  exposure to Latin American countries is
> zilch..only  Panama  !!!  It's a long story why I did not go to Chile .
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 11:29 PM Mervyn Maciel <
> mervynels.watuwasha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Bwana,
> >
> > All the controversy being stirred up over this lovely hymn which I love
> > and have sung on many occasions - especially at funerals too.
> >  Those who doubt the existence of God - and there are some among
> > our own people should listen to these two love pieces.
> > Kwaheri Bwana.
> >
> >
> > Mzee Mervyn
> >
>

Re: [Goanet] Abide with Me

[Mervyn Maciel]

Hi Venantius,

Thanks for this lovely rendition in Swahili by this African choir.
Now it is a question of mastering the words and playing it on my harmonica.
Thanks again.


Mervyn

Sent from my iPad

> On 29 Jan 2022, at 01:27, Venantius J Pinto  wrote:
> 
> Hello Adolfo, Hello Melwynm and all! 
> 
> Consider this rendition KARIBU NA WEWE, by Msanii Records Choral
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlyogmgXAVg
> 
> Karibu na wewe, Mungu wangu:
> Karibu Zaidi Bwana wangu, 
> Siku zote niwe Karibu na Wewe, 
> Karibu zaidi, Mungu wangu. 
> 
> Mimi nasafiri duniani, 
> Pa kupumzika sipaonio., 
> Nilalapo niwe karibu na Weve, 
> 
> Venantius
> 
> 
>> On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 4:51 AM Adolfo Mascarenhas  wrote:
>> Mervyn
>> Thank you very much for sharing your views on Nearer My God .I know you
>> sing the Hymn at Funerals ...I can picture the scene and mood.  There must
>> be a Swahili Version.  The purpose of writing to you is to do us another
>> favour..Could you petition the Queen of GB  to give the Order of the
>> Great Boot *(OGB)* .to a certain Netters who would like to join the Modi
>> militants.
>> 
>> As they say Let us not be harsh of this individual > We all know
>> what happened to  Saul when he was struck down from his horse..This
>> netter residing in White GB might even volunteer to go to El Salvador
>> Guatemala .
>> I am so grateful to Fr. Naik for putting us and especially me into the
>> broader picturewe as individuals do not have to praise Hitlers, the
>> Churchills and Enoch Powell or Mr Kim of North Korea
>> 
>> Grandolfo
>> I am suddenly conscious that although I visited nearly all African and
>> European countries, many Asian Countries...from Japan to Singapore,
>> Thailand, Indonesia .my  exposure to Latin American countries is
>> zilch..only  Panama  !!!  It's a long story why I did not go to Chile .
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 11:29 PM Mervyn Maciel <
>> mervynels.watuwasha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> > Hi Bwana,
>> >
>> > All the controversy being stirred up over this lovely hymn which I love
>> > and have sung on many occasions - especially at funerals too.
>> >  Those who doubt the existence of God - and there are some among
>> > our own people should listen to these two love pieces.
>> > Kwaheri Bwana.
>> >
>> >
>> > Mzee Mervyn
>> >

Re: [Goanet] Abide with Me

[Adolfo Mascarenhas]

Mervyn
Thank you very much for sharing your views on Nearer My God .I know you
sing the Hymn at Funerals ...I can picture the scene and mood.  There must
be a Swahili Version.  The purpose of writing to you is to do us another
favour..Could you petition the Queen of GB  to give the Order of the
Great Boot *(OGB)* .to a certain Netters who would like to join the Modi
militants.

As they say Let us not be harsh of this individual > We all know
what happened to  Saul when he was struck down from his horse..This
netter residing in White GB might even volunteer to go to El Salvador
Guatemala .
I am so grateful to Fr. Naik for putting us and especially me into the
broader picturewe as individuals do not have to praise Hitlers, the
Churchills and Enoch Powell or Mr Kim of North Korea

Grandolfo
I am suddenly conscious that although I visited nearly all African and
European countries, many Asian Countries...from Japan to Singapore,
Thailand, Indonesia .my  exposure to Latin American countries is
zilch..only  Panama  !!!  It's a long story why I did not go to Chile .


On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 11:29 PM Mervyn Maciel <
mervynels.watuwasha...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Bwana,
>
> All the controversy being stirred up over this lovely hymn which I love
> and have sung on many occasions - especially at funerals too.
>  Those who doubt the existence of God - and there are some among
> our own people should listen to these two love pieces.
> Kwaheri Bwana.
>
>
> Mzee Mervyn
>

Re: [Goanet] "Abide with Me” and Beating Retreat Ceremony

[Adolfo Mascarenhas]

Fr. Naik
Satan was present even in the Garden of Eden..If some individuals in
India do not even have respect for Gandhi, it is not surprising. Satan has
many agents.including in the USA...the big ones in recent decades being
President Regan and Donald the Trumpet.There might even be some Goans
some living in UK who blissfully believe that Catholicism is a white man's
religion.  Mind you one of these Goan individuals even claims that he was
in a Jesuit institution in Mumbai..Perhaps instead of being
enlightened he was thinking of  scheming to be in U the K. What hypocrisy !
! ! Perhaps its a sign of insecurity.

Grandolfo
In shopping mall .

PS On a related issue suddenly during World War 1. The guns were silent
on  BOTH SIDES .Yes the orgin of SILENT NIGHT .now available in
every lanuage .including in Konkoni

On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 9:40 AM Pratapananda Naik, SJ <
pratapnai...@gmail.com> wrote:

> “Abide with Me” and Beating Retreat Ceremony”
>
> There are 26 tunes that will be played at the Beating Retreat this year on
> 29th January 2022, the same as last year but with some changes and with all
> tunes being Indian this time coinciding with 75 years of independence.
>
> The Indian government's decision from this year to discard a world-famous
> popular hymn “Abide with Me” that has been an annual fixture at the Beating
> Retreat Ceremony at Republic Day celebrations since 1950 has shocked,
> surprised and pained every broadminded patriotic citizen of India.
>
> The hymn, “Abide with Me”, which is said to be a one of the personal
> favourites of Mahatma Gandhiji, the Father of the Indian nation.
>
> The hymn’s lyrics were by Henry Francis Lyte (1793 – 1847). He was a
> Scottish poet hymn writer, and an Anglican Pastor. It is a prayer for God
> to stay with the speaker throughout life and in death. It was written by
> Lyte in 1847 as he was dying from tuberculosis. It is most often sung to
> the tune of “Eventide” composed by English organist, church musician, and
> music editor William Henry Monk (1823 -1889) in 1861.
>
> In the past it was played by military brass bands as the last piece as the
> Beating Retreat Ceremony ends and the retreat buglers bring down the Indian
> flag on the ceremonial celebration.
>
> The concerned authorities dropped this traditional hymn this year which
> was played as the last musical composition since 1950 by the Indian
> military Brass Bands during the ceremony of Beating Retreat on 29th January
> every year. It signifies a military tradition dating back centuries, when
> troops stopped fighting, sheathed their arms, withdrew from the battlefield
> and returned to their camps at the sounding of the ‘retreat’.
>
> The reasons for dropping “Abide with Me” are given as “It is a legacy of
> past colonialism”, “Its lyrics are understood by a limited few”, “Phasing
> out tunes handed down from a colonial past and including tunes that have a
> wider and deeper connect with the people of India in on going exercise”,
> “The Centre wanted to include maximum number of Indian tunes and
> consequently, it was decided that only Indian origin tunes will be played
> at this year’s (2022) ceremony on January 2022!!! If one accepts this
> strange logic, then we have countless “legacies of past colonialism”. For
> example, Beating Retreat Ceremony, English language, democracy, political,
> administrative, judicial, military, education, and mass media systems,
> western music and instruments, movies and entertainment industry, western
> dress and cuisine, architecture, railways, airports, airways, allopathy,
> medicines and Medicare, household items, etc. Even the very concept of
> “Republic India” and “Nation” is a past legacy of our colonialism. Are we
> ready to drop all these and use exclusively only those things which
> strictly belong to our tradition and culture? Where and how do we draw a
> line to demarcate to identify this is “Indian” and the rest are “past
> legacy of colonialism”? If all the above mentioned and not mentioned
> foreign origin systems and things are retained as integral parts of our
> heritage, then why a universal song “Abide with Me” is considered as an
> “unwanted legacy of the past”? Who can explain to us the invention of this
> strange and unique “Indian logic”? Day by day our country and its citizens
> are led like a flock of sheep “from Truth to untruth, from Light to
> darkness, and from Life to darkness”!!!
>
> In spite of the decision of the authorities, the meaningful lyrics of
> “Abide with Me” and its soul touching solemn music, the ripples it creates
> cannot be erased from the hearts and minds of music lovers of India by any
> forces.  It is really sad and a matter of shame that the tradition of India
> since 1950 has been erased by dropping this song which was so close to
> Mahatma Gandhiji’s heart. Promoters of fundamentalism, pseudo nationalism,
> and exclusivism do not care for the culture of true Patriotism.

Re: [Goanet] Abide with me

[Roland Francis]

Here is a Toronto Church Choir with a pleasing rendition.

https://youtu.be/8qJrihYY4Kk

Roland.
Toronto 


> On Apr 23, 2021, at 12:35 PM, Pratap Naik  wrote:
> 
> Yesterday, i sent you "Nearer My God to Thee" a famous Christian hymn which
> is played at funeral ceremony. Today i share with you, "Abide with me"
> another  Christian hymn composed by Scottish Anglican minister Henry
> Francis Lyte in 1847 and set to music while he lay dying from tuberculosis.
> He died within three weeks. The hymn was first sung for the very first time
> at Lyte's funeral. It is most often sung to the tune "Eventide" by William
> Henry Monk.
> 
>