Re: [Goanet] Italian POWs in India

2022-02-11 Thread Venantius J Pinto
I see.
vjp

On Thu, Feb 10, 2022 at 3:50 PM Roland Francis 
wrote:

> The construction of the church started in 1954 and was completed in 1957.
> It was quite possible that Fr. Maschio brought in some Italian construction
> people for the work. The architecture, design and look definitely reflects
> a native Italian concept, but it would not have been the Italian POWs who
> worked on it, since the Brits left in 1947 and would not have been able to
> keep their human war baggage after that.
>
> Roland
>
> > On Feb 10, 2022, at 11:24 AM, Venantius J Pinto <
> venantius.pi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I heard that they helped build the Shrine of Don Bosco in Matunga. I
> > believe Fr. Maschio gave each of them-a packet of cigarettes, daily.
> >
> > -Venantius j Pinto
>


Re: [Goanet] Italian POWs in India

2022-02-10 Thread Roland Francis
The construction of the church started in 1954 and was completed in 1957. It 
was quite possible that Fr. Maschio brought in some Italian construction people 
for the work. The architecture, design and look definitely reflects a native 
Italian concept, but it would not have been the Italian POWs who worked on it, 
since the Brits left in 1947 and would not have been able to keep their human 
war baggage after that.

Roland 

> On Feb 10, 2022, at 11:24 AM, Venantius J Pinto  
> wrote:
> 
> I heard that they helped build the Shrine of Don Bosco in Matunga. I
> believe Fr. Maschio gave each of them-a packet of cigarettes, daily.
> 
> -Venantius j Pinto


Re: [Goanet] Italian POWs in India

2022-02-10 Thread Venantius J Pinto
I heard that they helped build the Shrine of Don Bosco in Matunga. I
believe Fr. Maschio gave each of them-a packet of cigarettes, daily.

-Venantius j pinto



On Thu, Feb 10, 2022 at 11:14 AM Roland Francis 
wrote:

> A post from Patrice which was probably wrongly addressed to Goanet Lists.
>
> > On Feb 10, 2022, at 5:53 AM, patrice riemens  wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2022 11:33:34 -0500
> >> From: Roland Francis 
> >> To: goa...@goanet.org
> >> Cc: Dr Eric Pinto 
> >> Subject: Re: [Goanet] Italian POWs in India
> >> Message-ID: 
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> >>
> >> What a fascinating tale of the wartime Italian connection to India.
> Wonder whether Bombay?s Monginis was the creation of a freed Italian POW
> who went on to open the cafe and restaurant which became present day
> Akbarallys whose specialty cakes are named after their Italian predecessors.
> >>
> >> I was struck by the fact that the Italian POWs went on to share their
> rations and provisions with the Indians in their neighbourhood. Does that
> mean that the Brits fed their European ?guests? better than than their
> colonial population?
> >>
> >> No surprise that the buildings and settlements they built are used by
> the Indian forces even today. The Italians are well known for their
> artisans.
> >>
> >> Roland.
> >> Toronto.
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Feb 9, 2022, at 11:08 AM, eric pinto 
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> They left their legacy in Bombay, Dehradun, b, Bangalore . . .
> >>> https://www.livehistoryindia.com/story/people/italian-pows-in-india
> >>> - - -
> >
> > Fascinating story indeed, I'll pass it on to local friends!
> >
> > Everywhere where Italian POWs were transported to, they built (& left)
> some kind of buildings (mostly churches, or rather chapels). From (East)
> Africa to  Siberia!. There were always a few 'muratore' (masons) among
> Italian soldiers, pbly a higher percentage than among other nationalities'
> POWs.
> >
> > Cheers, p+7D!
>


Re: [Goanet] Italian POWs in India

2022-02-10 Thread Roland Francis
A post from Patrice which was probably wrongly addressed to Goanet Lists.

> On Feb 10, 2022, at 5:53 AM, patrice riemens  wrote:
> 
> 
>> Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2022 11:33:34 -0500
>> From: Roland Francis 
>> To: goa...@goanet.org
>> Cc: Dr Eric Pinto 
>> Subject: Re: [Goanet] Italian POWs in India
>> Message-ID: 
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>> 
>> What a fascinating tale of the wartime Italian connection to India. Wonder 
>> whether Bombay?s Monginis was the creation of a freed Italian POW who went 
>> on to open the cafe and restaurant which became present day Akbarallys whose 
>> specialty cakes are named after their Italian predecessors.
>> 
>> I was struck by the fact that the Italian POWs went on to share their 
>> rations and provisions with the Indians in their neighbourhood. Does that 
>> mean that the Brits fed their European ?guests? better than than their 
>> colonial population?
>> 
>> No surprise that the buildings and settlements they built are used by the 
>> Indian forces even today. The Italians are well known for their artisans.
>> 
>> Roland.
>> Toronto.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 9, 2022, at 11:08 AM, eric pinto  wrote: 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> They left their legacy in Bombay, Dehradun, b, Bangalore . . .
>>> https://www.livehistoryindia.com/story/people/italian-pows-in-india
>>> - - -
> 
> Fascinating story indeed, I'll pass it on to local friends!
> 
> Everywhere where Italian POWs were transported to, they built (& left) some 
> kind of buildings (mostly churches, or rather chapels). From (East) Africa to 
>  Siberia!. There were always a few 'muratore' (masons) among Italian 
> soldiers, pbly a higher percentage than among other nationalities' POWs.
> 
> Cheers, p+7D!


Re: [Goanet] Italian POWs in India

2022-02-09 Thread Roland Francis
What a fascinating tale of the wartime Italian connection to India.  Wonder 
whether Bombay’s Monginis was the creation of a freed Italian POW who went on 
to open the cafe and restaurant which became present day Akbarallys whose 
specialty cakes are named after their Italian predecessors.

I was struck by the fact that the Italian POWs went on to share their rations 
and provisions with the Indians in their neighbourhood. Does that mean that the 
Brits fed their European ‘guests’ better than than their colonial population? 

No surprise that the buildings and settlements they built are used by the 
Indian forces even today. The Italians are well known for their artisans.

Roland.
Toronto.


> On Feb 9, 2022, at 11:08 AM, eric pinto  wrote:
> 
> 
> They left their legacy in Bombay, Dehradun, b, Bangalore . . .
> https://www.livehistoryindia.com/story/people/italian-pows-in-india
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