Re: [Goanet] Nachne
The subject of 'nachnne' made an interesting reading, and the mention of 'ambil' stirred boyhood memories. During wartime (WW-the big one!), when rice was in shortage, our elders it seems used to add ground nathnne or what we call nathno to the rice gruel called thandlla paez. When this coarsely ground nathno was added to the paez, it was called 'ambil paez'. Nathno plant has thin long leaves and the nathno matures on the 'khanshi' of the plant. This used to be a cash crop, grown beside chilli and kanngi (sweet potato), vegetable like red bhaji, string beans(Alsande), bhende etc. In southern India, it is extensively grown and used as a staple diet. It has cooling effect on the body and is nutritious. Nathnno and wheat (goum) used to be ground, strained and with jaggery and coconut juice was boiled to prepare a pudding we called 'manni' similar to Goan 'Nasne tizan', and was poured on a large banana leaf placed on a huge pan called 'thadpe(used to separate rice from husk, broken rice etc). Once cooled, it used to slightly harden and could be cut into slices and relished as it used to just melt in the mouth!!! I remembered a Kunnbi song where 'ambil' was mentioned and requested Dom Fernades for help, and he was kind enough to mail me the entire article that also included the song, which is given below in part: "Bolaqen gott ga Kunnbi nokdda khambo Paus votan arbo teje jivit lambo Ambil gottai, di taka vokta thembo Sokallim aura toear sadgaxim kombo" Another folk song that I came across where mention of achnne is made, is the song that was part of another article by none other than Dom Frenandes. The article begins thus: The lyrics of the following Konkani folk song KOMBO-KOMBIECHI AMIZAD or rooster-hen friendship. The song begins with praise for the rooster, followed by allegations resulting in proposal and demand for dowry and 'vojem', and finally a forced marriage because the hen is already laying eggs! "Kaiboro mozo kombo, zobor apurbaiecho.(the song continues...) ..Zobor mhaka khoxi, tuje kombiek sun korchi .. Ani hanvui khoxi zanvuim korchi, doth ghetoloi kitli? Ti diteleachi khoxi.. Borem kunddo ek paili Barik tandull don poddi ani nachnneanchi annatti ." Best regards Maurice D'Mello ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Nachne
Hello Vivian Yes, the bakri made of Nachne is very healthy and they use the banana plant leaves, kembeanche kholle, to fry. So it also gets the aroma of the leaf. Its nice to know that a querry of Nachne brought so many interesting discussions. I thank each and every one of you. Cheers Jerry Fernandes From: Vivian D'Souza Nachne,(also known as Ragi) the small red grain which almost looks like mustard seeds, is ground and made into Tizan as well as bakri or chapati. ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Nachne
Thanks a bunch Fred. Glad to know you are having fun with your kids while also getting them to do what you want them to do in a fun way. Wonder if the final product (tizan) will taste the same versus extracting the juice after the nachne are soaked and coarsely ground. Have you tried it with the ground flour? I missed out on the earlier postings on "NACHNE" so I have no idea what was discussed. However, I was looking forward to someone at goanet confirming if nachne is the same as millet. I agree with you, our Goan cooking is time consuming but no one can beat us to the taste. Florina ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Nachne
This year when I was in Goa, my aunt gave me a bag full of home grown nachne (also called gondde in salcette). She told me to grind them and make tizan with water/milk. She sp. told me its good for people suffering from diabetes. I dont know if this is true, but olden days people used to have it regularly.(probabaly the high contents of vitamin B) Besides this, I remember in our childhood days, we used to grow nachne in the first week of Dec. for the crib...:) Edward Verdes From: "Vivian D'Souza" > Nachne,(also known as Ragi) the small red grain which almost looks like > mustard seeds, is ground and made into Tizan as well as bakri or chapati. Old- > timers always gave Tizan to people convalescing from illnesses as it is known > to be highly nutritional. ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Nachne
Hi, Is even VON, the liquid desert served during bikaranchem Jevonn made of Nachne? It's a very wonderful delicacy and one of the reasons I don't mind going for Bikaranchem Jevonn. Cheers Jerry Fernandes ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Nachne
Hello Rico, Just this week I had the previlege to have Tizan. My cousin made it for my son Aldryk who is down with a fractured leg as she said it is very good for healing purpose. She forced me to have it too, and I must say that I relished it very much, and it reminded me of my loving Mum who used to make if quite often for all of us on regular basis. Rico, my cousin made it with milk but according to her it can be made in coconut juice also, and the taste is even better. This is just for your info, ready packets of Nachne (Ragi Flour) are now available at Bardez Bazar and you safe on the time. Happy eating!! Arlette Azavedo ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Nachne
Great to see you back on Goanet after ages, Florina. And your Tizan recipe sounded fab. Till a couple of years back, I couldn't make a cup of tea. Now, I occasionally experiment, with non-essential food, specially when on the babysitting shift. (Realised that it's easier to get the kids to eat up when it becomes a game... and my three-year-old loves to believe that he's getting the eggs scrambled himself.) Who knows, I might even try out this tizan-based 'dodol'. But then, Goan food is quite time-consuming in preparation. Shopping for Goa jaggery sounds like a Friday marketday adventure in Mapusa. And thank goodness someone thought of selling powdered nachne (if I understood right what was said earlier in this thread)! FN PS: BTW, is there anyone willing to volunteer with an idea like Goanet-Recipes? On 17/08/06, Florina D'Souza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My grandma & mom used to make it like tizan but added more goa jaggery and > stirred it until > it thickened so they could pour it out in a large pan to cool then cut it up > into pieces > like "dodol". Evening tea-time snack. -- --- Frederick Noronha http://fn.goa-india.org 9822122436 +91-832-240-9490 http://fredericknoronha.wordpress.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Nachne
On 16/08/06, Florina D'Souza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My grandma & mom used to make it like tizan but added more goa jaggery and > stirred it until > it thickened so they could pour it out in a large pan to cool then cut it up > into pieces > like "dodol". Evening tea-time snack. > > Also, in school we learned that millet is nachne. Bajra and jowar are not > the same as millet. > Were we taught wrong? > > Florina Comment: Dodol is available in Sri Lanka, Singapore, Malaysia and I believe also Indonesia, in different flavours too! Like the sweet, sickly smelling Durian fruit. -- DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Nachne
My grandma & mom used to make it like tizan but added more goa jaggery and stirred it until it thickened so they could pour it out in a large pan to cool then cut it up into pieces like "dodol". Evening tea-time snack. Also, in school we learned that millet is nachne. Bajra and jowar are not the same as millet. Were we taught wrong? Florina >From: "Frederick \"FN\" Noronha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" > >To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" >Subject: Re: [Goanet] Nachne >Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 21:04:00 +0530 > >Do you know of any recipes for using Tizan? Sometimes, we used to have >it with milk. It was very nourishing, and jaggery added a local touch >to it. I guess there must be other regional ways of preparing it in >different parts of Goa. Isn't it called 'ambil' too in some parts of >the state? FN > >On 15/08/06, Eugene Correia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Just a few days ago I had tezam made of nachne. I > > relished it very much. It was after many years or so I > > had it. It remind me of good old days when I was very > > young. >-- >--- >Frederick Noronha http://fn.goa-india.org 9822122436 +91-832-240-9490 >http://fredericknoronha.wordpress.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] >___ >Goanet mailing list >Goanet@lists.goanet.org >http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Nachne
Do you know of any recipes for using Tizan? Sometimes, we used to have it with milk. It was very nourishing, and jaggery added a local touch to it. I guess there must be other regional ways of preparing it in different parts of Goa. Isn't it called 'ambil' too in some parts of the state? FN On 15/08/06, Eugene Correia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just a few days ago I had tezam made of nachne. I > relished it very much. It was after many years or so I > had it. It remind me of good old days when I was very > young. -- --- Frederick Noronha http://fn.goa-india.org 9822122436 +91-832-240-9490 http://fredericknoronha.wordpress.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Nachne
Just a few days ago I had tezam made of nachne. I relished it very much. It was after many years or so I had it. It remind me of good old days when I was very young. eugene __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
