Re: [Goanet] The Healing Process a Dying Race - Gilbert

2007-12-25 Thread Carvalho

--- Gilbert Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  And we basically transmitted the same values,
 beliefs and education systems to your generation,
 that they transmitted to us. Is that too much to ask
 the current 25 to 45 year old? We keep beating each
 other about caste preference for marriage. Yet no
 one decries the growing number of Catholic Goans
 marrying non-Goans. This of course will hasten the
 scenario you outline.  
 
---
Dear Gilbert,

Values are universal. If you can tell me of one value
on which Goans have a monopoly, I will definitely try
to pass this on as a Goan Value.

When I talk about the demise of the Goan Catholic
Community, I am speaking in terms of demographics. Our
birth rate is not substantial enough to perpetuate the
continuity of this community. 

Why are you promoting the idea that Goans should
confine themselves to marrying fellow Goans? Not
wanting to dilute the gene pool is the surest way of
diminishing its potential to grow and mutate in ways
we can never even dream off. You really must catch up
on your Darwinian evolution Gilbert.

You don't find any Hittites or Akkadians today. Why,
you don't even find Yugoslavians today. We are all but
a momentary pause on the continuum of time. We may
mourn this reality because we are human beings and we
develop attachments, but evolution must move forth,
move on and continue the process we call life.

selma



  

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Re: [Goanet] The Healing Process a Dying Race

2007-12-24 Thread Carvalho

--- Roland Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 The abuse suffered by Native Indians in Canada
 provides a parallel to the
 caste abuse in the Goa of yesteryear. 
-

Roland's parallel to Native Indians in Canada, brought
to mind my visit to a Native American Reservation
earlier this year and the parallel I then drew to Goan
Catholic society. Native Americans are a dying race,
their young awkwardly trying to embrace their past in
a ritualistic tribal dance while a future calls to
them outside the reservation.

In a similar vein, just today I heard of a report that
said young Jews in America do not feel a bond with
Israel and feel disconnected from its history. To the
Jews in Israel, this would seem like betrayal of the
worst sort, but such is life that distance from
history and geography creates a new cultural mindset,
even as an old one struggles to live.

A few years ago the Parsis of India buried a
time-capsule. A few items commemorating their culture.
This, they sadly know, will be all that is left of
this community that produced some of India's best.

Goan Catholics are not a race but collectively they
share a unique culture and history. We too know in our
hearts that nothing much will be left of us save
perhaps for a collection of memories and memoirs.

selma


  

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Re: [Goanet] The Healing Process a Dying Race - Selma

2007-12-24 Thread Gilbert Lawrence
Hi Selma,
 
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to you and all Goanetters and your 
families.

You break my heart and likely the hearts of your parents and our generation. 
After all the education we provided our next generation of Goans, all that we 
can expect them to transmit to the next generation (our grandchildren) is 
perhaps for a collection of memories and memoirs?
 
Perhaps your generation could learn from us please!  Likely like you, we 
also got more (formal) education than our parents. Yet the older we got, the 
more we realized that our parents (your grandparents) were smarter than we gave 
them credit.  And we basically transmitted the same values, beliefs and 
education systems to your generation, that they transmitted to us. Is that too 
much to ask the current 25 to 45 year old? We keep beating each other about 
caste preference for marriage. Yet no one decries the growing number of 
Catholic Goans marrying non-Goans. This of course will hasten the scenario you 
outline.  

Of course some are fighting even older battles with their same old ... same old 
... sodanche kani. Perhaps this may be to avoid dealing with issues in front of 
us.
 
Today on Goanet, all that we read from the younger genre is how bad things 
were.  And how much smarter and better and more liberated and 
forward-looking today's Goans are. And then as you thoughtfully point out, 
that likely all we will pass down is, perhaps for a collection of memories and 
memoirs.  Yet it does not have to be that way ... does it?
 
Kind Regards, GL

-- Carvalho wrote:

Goan Catholics are not a race but collectively they share a unique culture and 
history. We too know in our hearts that nothing much will be left of us save 
perhaps for a collection of memories and memoirs.