Re: [Goanet] VOTE FOR MANOHAR PARRIKAR in May
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by Mrs. Daisy Faleiro To sponsor Goanet operations, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] The discussion on the subject is quite interesting, particularly the comments made by Fred. He has rightly pointed out how Parrikar created Babush and took the support of people like Digambar Kamat, Isidore Fernandes and Pandurang Madkaikar to form the government. Parrikar also allowed Rane's son a field day. Parrikar now criticising these people is really a height of hypocrisy. A friend of mine from Goa, who had voted for the BJP says that he and his friends came to the conclusion that the last government was not a BJP government, but that of Parrikar, considering the huge compromises he made in his attempt to stay in power. Even as they admit that there were many things that were done then, the negatives have hugely outweighed the positives. However, these very MLAs who supported Parrikar are now with the Congress, and presumably they will be given the tickets of the Congress party to contest the next elections. So, what are the choices the people of Goa have? Sachin Phadte. _ Over 20 Jobs @ naukri.com ! Choose The Best One http://naukri.com/tieups/tieups.php?othersrcp=4358
Re: [Goanet] VOTE FOR MANOHAR PARRIKAR in May
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by Mrs. Daisy Faleiro To sponsor Goanet operations, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] A Chief minister asks the education department to come out with a VCD showing Goa's history. History cannot be changed. Whatever history has been established over the years is documented. A community made atrocities to gather people in their fold several hundred years back. That is history. That does not change anything that happens in the future. The department came out with the VCD. Now, whatever happened 500 years back, is it Parrikar's fault? Is it his fault that people don't realize that that history happend 500 years back and does not change anything? Cajetan Rego, Tivim Goa. --- Gabe Menezes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > WWW.GOANET.ORG ** C O M M U N I T Y ** A N N O > U N C E M E N T > > Save Goa Campaign / Goa Bachao > Abhiyan > > Report all violations of Hill-cutting, Coastal > Regulation Zone (CRZ) > and other Land Use violations > to: > > Nodal Officer & District Collector (Goa) Mr. > Nikhil Kumar > Office: 2223612; Residence (after 8PM): 2420710; > mobile 9822123071 > > On 12/01/07, Cajetan Rego <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > > Organising IFFI 2004 was a near-impossible feat > that Manohar bab achieved. > > That talks of his efficiency. Had it not happened, > Goa would have lost it to > > some other state. IFFI is an event that has a high > potential of generating > > revenue for the state. Goa has to capitalise on > its popularity and Parrikar > > rightly tapped it. Money does not fall from the > sky. All expenditure on IFFI > > is an investment that gets recovered several > times. > > > > It was Goa's mistake that Parrikar was not given a > clear majority in > > previous elections, because of which he had to tie > up with some of today's > > unwanted MLAs. Had he not done this, things like > the sale of Goa would have > > happened long back and we would be living a > > concrete jungle already. > > > > It is high time we Goans realize this and give > Parrikar a clear majority. It > > is the leadership that matters. The rest of BJP is > not any better than the > > Congress, I agree. IITian or not, Parrikar is > efficient. > > > > Cajetan Rego, > > Tivim, Goa > > > RESPONSE: Please ask Shri Parrikar to apologize to > the people of Goa > for bringing out the communal VCD and imposing it on > the schools ! > > Let us clear the past first before we even attempt > to move forward. > -- > DEV BOREM KORUM. > > Gabe Menezes. > London, England > > WWW.GOANET.ORG ** C O M M U N I T Y ** A N N O > U N C E M E N T > > Save Goa Campaign / Goa Bachao > Abhiyan > > Report all violations of Hill-cutting, Coastal > Regulation Zone (CRZ) >and other Land Use violations to 24-hour Helpline > +91 9822684372 > > Never Miss an Email Stay connected with Yahoo! Mail on your mobile. Get started! http://mobile.yahoo.com/services?promote=mail
Re: [Goanet] VOTE FOR MANOHAR PARRIKAR in May
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by Mrs. Daisy Faleiro To sponsor Goanet operations, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gabe, An apology is also due for the BJP government's complete inaction in the Mala-Fontainhas vandalism case, where photos clearly identify some of the perpetrators. I used to be a big supporter of Manoharbab, as were many members of the Catholic community in Panjim until these two incidents. In case Carmo and Cajetan are not aware, there is a very slim chance of Parrikar standing for elections in Panjim next year(he will try his luck in his native Mapusa, I'm guessing!) because of these two incidents. If he does he has absolutely no chance of winning. Best Regards Sunith Gabe writes: RESPONSE: Please ask Shri Parrikar to apologize to the people of Goa for bringing out the communal VCD and imposing it on the schools ! -- Sunith D Velho [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Goanet] VOTE FOR MANOHAR PARRIKAR in May
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by Mrs. Daisy Faleiro To sponsor Goanet operations, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 13/01/07, Cajetan Rego <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It was Goa's mistake that Parrikar was not given a clear majority in > previous elections, because of which he had to tie up with some of today's > unwanted MLAs. Had he not done this, things like the sale of Goa would have > happened long back and we would be living a > concrete jungle already. Cajetan, You make it sound as if Goa makes up its mind collectively on whom to elect in any election. If at all it's anyone's fault (and keep in mind, the BJP has never been able to win a single election in Goa, though it managed to rule, directly and indirectly for nearly half-a-dozen years) it was the BJP's own fault. For many in Goa, it is still seen (not without reason) as an upper-caste, anti-minority political party. Some understand it's ideology, even those who don't, know what it implies for them. The Congress, meanwhile, is working hard to make the BJP's dream come true. By taking the support of the very same mafia that brought the BJP to power, and kept it there. (Both politicians and lobbies.) Media manipulation, including cyber-manipulation, is helping in a big way, too. If we keep trying ... we just might get there. FN -- FN M: 0091 9822122436 P: +91-832-240-9490 (after 1300IST please) http://fn.goa-india.org http://fredericknoronha.wordpress.com
Re: [Goanet] VOTE FOR MANOHAR PARRIKAR in May
WWW.GOANET.ORG ** C O M M U N I T Y ** A N N O U N C E M E N T Save Goa Campaign / Goa Bachao Abhiyan Report all violations of Hill-cutting, Coastal Regulation Zone (CRZ) and other Land Use violations to: Nodal Officer & District Collector (Goa) Mr. Nikhil Kumar Office: 2223612; Residence (after 8PM): 2420710; mobile 9822123071 On 12/01/07, Cajetan Rego <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Organising IFFI 2004 was a near-impossible feat that Manohar bab achieved. > That talks of his efficiency. Had it not happened, Goa would have lost it to > some other state. IFFI is an event that has a high potential of generating > revenue for the state. Goa has to capitalise on its popularity and Parrikar > rightly tapped it. Money does not fall from the sky. All expenditure on IFFI > is an investment that gets recovered several times. > > It was Goa's mistake that Parrikar was not given a clear majority in > previous elections, because of which he had to tie up with some of today's > unwanted MLAs. Had he not done this, things like the sale of Goa would have > happened long back and we would be living a > concrete jungle already. > > It is high time we Goans realize this and give Parrikar a clear majority. It > is the leadership that matters. The rest of BJP is not any better than the > Congress, I agree. IITian or not, Parrikar is efficient. > > Cajetan Rego, > Tivim, Goa RESPONSE: Please ask Shri Parrikar to apologize to the people of Goa for bringing out the communal VCD and imposing it on the schools ! Let us clear the past first before we even attempt to move forward. -- DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England WWW.GOANET.ORG ** C O M M U N I T Y ** A N N O U N C E M E N T Save Goa Campaign / Goa Bachao Abhiyan Report all violations of Hill-cutting, Coastal Regulation Zone (CRZ) and other Land Use violations to 24-hour Helpline +91 9822684372
Re: [Goanet] VOTE FOR MANOHAR PARRIKAR in May and Attain Goa Dourada !
WWW.GOANET.ORG ** C O M M U N I T Y ** A N N O U N C E M E N T Save Goa Campaign / Goa Bachao Abhiyan Report all violations of Hill-cutting, Coastal Regulation Zone (CRZ) and other Land Use violations to: Nodal Officer & District Collector (Goa) Mr. Nikhil Kumar Office: 2223612; Residence (after 8PM): 2420710; mobile 9822123071 Dear Carmo, Mera Manohar mahaan; tera bhi ;-( CARMO DCRUZ wrote: > Bosco, > > What was so simple about Dominic's sarcastic question. I think he got an > appropriately > packed punch for an answer. Once again you are taking sides.You seem to > imply that > 99.9% of Goans are Dominic's friends and cuzners and botlers. Sounds Like > Nehruvian > elitism just after the liberation of Goa all over again ! COMMENT: Was it Manohar bab or the BJP that started the IITs and IIMs in India. Or are we in Orwellian 1984? Nice to know that Manohar has well qualified shoe-shine boys else where in the world also. I thought that Rajendra Arlekar, Dinar Bhatkar[incidentally, an IITian specializing in unsuccessful Sewage treatment plants and NRI meets till last year], Satish Dhond, Laxmikant Parsekar and VHP's unprincipled Principal Subhash [Sah-bash]Velingker and his cronies were enough. Perhaps not really so. > Manohar and I have discussed ways to get 99.9 of Goan Youth who want to > study hard > to get into the elite Indian Institutes of Technology, all for the greater > Good of Goa ! COMMENT: The records show that not a single student from a Goan school got into an IIT or IIM anywhere in India during the two consecutive, but short-lived, BJP-led Govts. in Goa. No prizes for guessing who was the BJP CM then. This year there were half a dozen entrants..and obviously Luizinho Faliero feleicitated them publicly in Goa. Of course, you were not in Goa then...since you continue in Manohar Fairyland! > Manohar Parrikar has the reputation of a clean politician - a rarity in > Goa these days > - with CM Rane and his shadier son Viswajeet making shady land deals in > the CM.s > office these days. You can try to figure out when and from whom Manohar > took bribes > when he was CM and you will come up short Thats an achievement in itself ! COMMENT: This is one point I have to agree with you. Manohar bab CLEANED the city of Panaji [with help from Sanjit Rodrigues]. He also CLEANED the state's coffers to fund the IFFI [ostensibly to be re-imbursed by the central BJP Govt, but that never happened] and fund his party through the goodwill of the contractors. The footpaths are still not paved with gold...or properly with paver blocks, the Garcia da Orta garden is in a mess. To his credit, he has got a good job done of the Old GMC building and we have a Multiplex. "Unmingled joys to no man befall; Who least, hath some. Who most, hath never all" wrote H.W. Longfellow Parrikar did his fair share of land conversions under Section 17 of the TCP Act. He was also the Chairman of the TCP Board that prepared the DRAFT FINAL REGIONAL PLAN 2011 between 1999 and 2005 for the longest period as the CM between 2000 and 2005! Those who forget history are condemned to repeat it. It is the likes of Manohar who bastardize history and put in in VCDs like GOA FREEDOM STRUGGLE using lackeys with convenient names and easy morals. " Flee away from ambition, by that sin fell the angels."wrote John Milton in 'Paradise Lost'. in 2005, the communal harmony paradise of Goa was regained. the Congressmen only rob our money...not our value system and beliefs. > I have known Manohar Parrikar for a long time, since the mid 70s infact. > At IIT Bombay > Manohar's greatest achievement was when he cleaned up the organizational > mess (kitchen > and dining hall) and turned it around to look like a 5-star restaurant. As > Goa CM, he will > also clean up the currrent mess in the Goa Government and we will finally > attain Our Goa > Dourada (Golden Goa) ! COMMENT; Tenga! Manohar bab is NOT likely to become Goa's CM now or ever! Cleaning a hostel mess or the mess some hostelites make on week-ends is one thing, running a Government in Goa is another. One historical fact is that the BJP never had a majority of MLAs elected on its symbol in Goa or at the Centre. Those who buy MLAs to cobble up a majority pay through their nose. Manohar knows how he lived with the bunch of fools that he had for Ministers [save Matanhy and Digambar] and had to try and survive by asking his Speaker to resort/accept forgery and deceit. > Best Regards, > Dr. Carmo D'Cruz > Indian Harbour Beach, Florida It does not behoove a person who feels that he is EDUCATED to deride others by calling them names. Perhaps, the IITs only impart technical ski
Re: [Goanet] VOTE FOR MANOHAR PARRIKAR in May and attain Goa Dourada !
WWW.GOANET.ORG ** C O M M U N I T Y ** A N N O U N C E M E N T Save Goa Campaign / Goa Bachao Abhiyan Report all violations of Hill-cutting, Coastal Regulation Zone (CRZ) and other Land Use violations to: Nodal Officer & District Collector (Goa) Mr. Nikhil Kumar Office: 2223612; Residence (after 8PM): 2420710; mobile 9822123071 Hey Bosco, Why only Mickky? You've forgotten that Manohar Parrikar could not have survived without having created Babush Monserrate, taken the support of Digambar Kamat and Isidore Fernandes and Pandurang Madkaikar (the very same guys he blasts for being part of the 'land mafia' today, rightly so), and having taken the support of the politician he retained as Speaker (Pratapsing Rane) and his very efficient son (Vishwajit Rane). On 11/01/07, Bosco wrote: > Incidentally Manohar Parrikar needed the help of unscrupulous > dorji-turned-agent-turned-politician like Mickey Pacheco to > keep his own job. > > Manohar Parrikar - right man in the wrong party !! Wrong man, wrong party! To understand Manohar Parrikar better, read 'Brotherhood of Saffron' by Walter Anderson and Damle. While he is both hard-working and efficient, Parrikar would have been nothing in Goa (or anywhere) without the ideology of saffron and caste-based support. So, what are we talking about? FN WWW.GOANET.ORG ** C O M M U N I T Y ** A N N O U N C E M E N T Save Goa Campaign / Goa Bachao Abhiyan Report all violations of Hill-cutting, Coastal Regulation Zone (CRZ) and other Land Use violations to 24-hour Helpline +91 9822684372
Re: [Goanet] VOTE FOR MANOHAR PARRIKAR in May and Attain Goa Dourada !
WWW.GOANET.ORG ** C O M M U N I T Y ** A N N O U N C E M E N T Save Goa Campaign / Goa Bachao Abhiyan Report all violations of Hill-cutting, Coastal Regulation Zone (CRZ) and other Land Use violations to: Nodal Officer & District Collector (Goa) Mr. Nikhil Kumar Office: 2223612; Residence (after 8PM): 2420710; mobile 9822123071 Carmo, Pray tell us.all these months..you have been writing innocently to the rest of the world with not a dash of sarcasm?? Be it IIT, hockey, Stanislaus, Bardez, etc Nehruvian elitism is what you are espousing with your constant banter of the superiority of IITs to detriment of all other Goans who are "cuzners and botlers or gulfees". Thousands of these Goans are decent people with far greater integrity than ANY politician in Goa. Manohar is a politician first and everything else next. Just like all politicians, the world over! His first objective is to get the kodel; just like other politicians the world over. Manohar also had a stint as Chief Minister of Goa (that's when I met him); just like some other politicians in Goa. We've all seen what he has accomplished. For me, the IFFI 2004 was the only issue that registered. Everything else were castles in the air. > You can try to figure out when and from whom Manohar took > bribes when he was CM and you will come up short But tell me Carmo, does turning the other way to bribe-taking and corruption right under him do his reputation any good. What about the awarding of contracts. The mismanagement of the INOX contract comes to mind, where the state exchequer was short-changed. > As Goa CM, he will also clean up the currrent mess > in the Goa Government and we will finally attain Our > Goa Dourada (Golden Goa) ! Carmoincase you didn't have internet connectivity from 1999-2005, Manohar was Chief Minister of Goa and we have all seen what he has achieved. Not that the guys who came in before him or after him have done any better. > Manohar Parrikar has the reputation of a clean politician That's true.optics play a big part in fooling people; but not all the people, all the time. Manohar was an unethical politician, with the means he used to GRAB the seat of power in Goa. Says alot about his reputation as far as I'm concerned. The current term of the legislative assembly has done very little legislating and alot of destabilising each other. There has been NO interest in the people and land of Goa. The only interest has been in assuming the kodel !! Manohar has participated in this charade since 1999. Lastly, Manohar Parrikar is an ex-Chief Minister of Goa. Please don't embarass him by perpetually announcing that he "cleaned up the organizational mess (kitchen and dining hall)" of a 6000-person IIT-B. We are talking about managing the State of Goa; not a kitchen. Lastly, do you want to take this debate to a wider public audience instead of indulging in BCCs ? With one condition - you will have to debate on facts; not emotion. Best - Bosco T.O, CA WWW.GOANET.ORG ** C O M M U N I T Y ** A N N O U N C E M E N T Save Goa Campaign / Goa Bachao Abhiyan Report all violations of Hill-cutting, Coastal Regulation Zone (CRZ) and other Land Use violations to 24-hour Helpline +91 9822684372
