Re: [Goanet] foreigners buying land in Goa
In response to Kalpana's comments, it is true what she says regarding the affects of foreign occupation on the local society and their culture.It will definitely give rise to loss of culture and change in idealogy.But there is very little anyone can do. The goans themselves have to understand and take stock of this situation. We pray that common sense will prevail. Godfrey Rasquinha --- On Wed, 7/15/09, kalpana miss kalpana...@yahoo.com wrote: From: kalpana miss kalpana...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Goanet] foreigners buying land in Goa To: Goanet goa...@goanet.org Date: Wednesday, July 15, 2009, 5:25 AM Land buying in any state by foreigners has many adverse on the locals at that place. same is true with Goans. It inflated prices making it difficult to locals. it is making sea change in the culture. it is making increase in crime. disputes in rights and so on. Long term effect may be end of a civilisation,culture and the langauge. kalpana
Re: [Goanet] foreigners buying land in Goa
Land buying in any state by foreigners has many adverse on the locals at that place. same is true with Goans. It inflated prices making it difficult to locals. it is making sea change in the culture. it is making increase in crime. disputes in rights and so on. Long term effect may be end of a civilisation,culture and the langauge. kalpana
Re: [Goanet] Foreigners buying land in Goa and all that
VENITA COELHO 'Only when the last tree has been cut down; Only when the last river has been poisoned; Only when the last fish has been caught; Only then will you find that money cannot be eaten.' (ENDS) COMMENT : The 40 ants loves to eat paper(money). The ants,in short, live on dead, one which does not have soul. MARIO GOVEA When a foreigner invests in another country it is a sign of respect for that country, is it not, and a sign of confidence in it as well? Why else would they risk their money? COMMENT : Is it also not true that Human attitude desires is ALWAYS to have something which they do not have. For example, Tired of cold, rain, gloomy weather they look for sunshine; Tired of wearing too many clothing to stay warm, they come to a place called GOA where they can be naked; cannot own even a room appartment with the pounds/dollars/euros/rubbles they have in their own country that they then come to buy the villa and even the village(morjem). Lets see just one of the DOMESTIC side views :- the 40 thieves have never seen pound/dollars/euros/rubbles so they sell LAND which was preserved by our grandparents for us and accumulate these currencies and i) when they fall sick they go to the same countries and pay it back for treatment, ii) use this money to send their children to pursue education to other countries, and their children do not return iii)migrate and end up loosing in stocks/recession. Silly or wise? FREDDY These are our battles, we have to fight them and that’s the naked truth COMMENT : Harvest is rich, Labourers are few. CARMEN MIRANDA We also need to make sure the miners follow the laws of the country and rehabilitate the land they destroyed (that is the law that no one respects). COMMENT: This gave birth to “ORDINANCE 2009”. THE LAW OF GOA, FOR THE GOANS, CHANGEABLE AS PER WHIMPS AND FANCIES OF THE GOVT, NOT TO SUIT THE PUBLIC(PEOPLE, AAM ADMI) , BUT FOR PRIVATE( INDIVIDUALS-KHAAS ADMI) _ Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. Check it out! http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_explore_012009
Re: [Goanet] foreigners buying land in Goa
Mario, Given that you and I don't always agree with each other, thanks. My gut feeling is that this lady wants all of Goa to herself :-) OK. First, she alleged that I must have sold my ancestral property to a white so that I could by by property in London. Then, I was called an activist batting for the whites. Now apparently I have acquired a gang. Next, I will probably be called an invader who plundered Goa with the said gang. Apparently, whatever I say on this forum will be leading to loss of life and limb due to the presence of foreignes in Goa - wow! What power! And Jane and her cronies represent all Goans. Although I had said in my last post relating to this thread it would be my last, I cannot resist having another go. Throughout the British reign of India, the wealth of India (diamonds, minerals etc.) were taken back to the mother country. - OK, what was taken from Goa to Portugal? This is Goa we're talking about - not India of the Rajahs. Besides, Jane probably doesn't realise that tables have been turned - who owns Jaguar and Land Rover? How many overseas businesses does Infosys own? Every ruler that invaded India, left their monuments, and forced us to learn their language. No wonder Goans of my generation were forced to learn Hindi instead of Konkani. I will say no more. Gabriel. - Original Message From: Mario Goveia mgov...@sbcglobal.net To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Sunday, 12 July, 2009 5:48:37 AM Subject: [Goanet] foreigners buying land in Goa Date: 10 Jul 2009 17:04:32 - From: jane gillian rodrigues janerodrig...@rediffmail.com Dear Goankars, Since Gabriel and some other Goanetters, are in favour of foreigners buying property in Goa, all Goans will hold him, and his gang, responsible for any problems in Goa, leading to loss of life and limb due to the presence of foreignes in Goa. Mario responds: Hey, Gabriel, For some reason Jane Gillian is picking on you, re, and seems scared to mention my name, even though I am the foremost proponent on Goanet of the obvious benefits to Goa and Goans of allowing anyone to invest in hard assets in Goa and India in general. Access Yahoo!7 Mail on your mobile. Anytime. Anywhere. Show me how: http://au.mobile.yahoo.com/mail
Re: [Goanet] Foreigners buying land in Goa and all that trash....
Welcome to Goanet Carmen Miranda. If your name is really Carmen Miranda then you have as much spirit and passion as the erstwhile world famous Brazilian samba singer of the same name. Bring that passion and spirit to Goanet on an ongoing basis. At the moment we have too few with that talent. Selma you will soon experience, she outruns the best of the boys. Venita Coelho from Goa, sometimes. Jane Gillian of Bombay shows promise but unlike you her energies are misdirected (at Gabriel, Mario and me). Ruby Goes from Down Under who loves dancing and scotch, not to mention news clippings from the BBC. Ana Maria de Souza Goswami who was once battleworthy but now is happy merely to employ cooks, gardeners and houseboys for her large estate. Of spirited males there is no shortage. There is Mario Goveia of the US who is the self-appointed voice of truth, peace and reason and an enduring friend of George Bush. Alfred Tavares of Sweden whose posts are short but pungent like a Goa sausage. There's Mervyn Lobo a Canadian compatriot who will tell you of bush planes launched by coconut tree catapults and that gold as an investment is a good buy perenially. Valmiki Faleiro who will take you back to a Goa that you never imagined. Gabriel de Figueiredo who would be Salazar's spokesman if Salazar was living and too many others whom it would take a lot of bandwith to do justice to but whom I would allow you to discover for yourself. With regards Roland. On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 6:50 AM, Carmen Mirandacarmitamira...@gmail.com wrote: Fiddle while Rome burns.(meaning to occupy oneself with unimportant matters and neglect priorities during a crisis.) ...I just joined goanet a week ago, and I have been amazed at the passion, energy and time spent discussing who is TRASH and who is not TRASH , when the biggest trash are our politicians and their policies or lack of them in Goa.
Re: [Goanet] Foreigners buying land in Goa and all that trash....
Welcome, D. Carmita. Recently, there was an e-petition relating to Goa's disappearing natural forest cover. I hope those who received that petition signed it. Anyhow, one of the issues of denuding forests is the reduction of updrafts, which in turn will make the coastline un-bearably hot pre-Monsoon, a fact which is currently being touted as being a result of man-made CO2 (greenhouse gases). Greenhouse gases could be having an effect along with changes in the Solar system as a whole, but my reasoning is that if there is no updraft due to trees in the interior, there will not be any cooling breezes coming inland; and if this updraft eventually disappears due to drastic reduction of forest cover to give way to industrial development, residential buildings and mining industry, I do not have to spell out the end effects in a few years - it will go the Sahara way. I remember reading this warning in the late 60s (advancing deserts or something like that), and then again something similar appeared recently on New Scientist. Gabriel. - Original Message From: Carmen Miranda carmitamira...@gmail.com To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Sunday, 12 July, 2009 8:50:32 PM Subject: [Goanet] Foreigners buying land in Goa and all that trash Fiddle while Rome burns.(meaning to occupy oneself with unimportant matters and neglect priorities during a crisis.) ...I just joined goanet a week ago, and I have been amazed at the passion, energy and time spent discussing who is TRASH and who is not TRASH , when the biggest trash are our politicians and their policies or lack of them in Goa. If you all are such fervent Goenkars, it is about time you find out what is going on in the interior of Goa Access Yahoo!7 Mail on your mobile. Anytime. Anywhere. Show me how: http://au.mobile.yahoo.com/mail
Re: [Goanet] Foreigners buying land in Goa
Hello Rina, People should understand this. Thanks Ashley -Original Message- From: goanet-boun...@lists.goanet.org [mailto:goanet-boun...@lists.goanet.org] On Behalf Of Rina Mukherji Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:43 PM To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Cc: goanet-ow...@lists.goanet.org Subject: [Goanet] Foreigners buying land in Goa Isn't the sympathy shown by people towards foreigners who have or intending to buy land in Goa a little misplaced?. The laws regarding foreigners buying property in any part of India may be very strict; we ought to understand one cannot equate it with indians settling down or buying property in the US or Canada. We are bursting at the seams; US, or most parts of Europe need people, especially migrants. We are indignant when cheap labour finds its way into India from across the border. Are these foreigners bringing in some special skills that we are short of? Or are we getting cheap labour that we need?They are here as pensioners because life is affordable and cheap; but does that help Goa at all. If anything, it will send land prices skyrocketing! Rina Mukherji Kolkata
Re: [Goanet] Foreigners buying land in Goa
What ignorance ! Within the boundaries of foreigners coming to Goa (the topic is not about India), if there is any bursting of the seams it is from the trash of the rest of India coming to Goa and not from countries overseas. Foreigners come to Goa because living is affordable and cheap? Hey, Indians go to Australia because there are no spots for them in Indian institutions on account of their average marks. Indians go to the Gulf because there are jobs and they pay better. Indians emigrate to western countries for a better quality of life. And who told you the US and most parts of Europe need people? They do, like a hole in the head. Land prices in Goa skyrocket not because of the foreigners alone. There's lots of black money floating in the country. There's lots of corruption in India. Two better companions there cannot be. Soon Mamata Banerjee will have a home in Goa. I'd be surprised if she has not already got one. If you have to rail against foreigners, as Marshall Mendonca said, start with the Russians and the Israelis. They are not stakeholders in Goa like the Brits are. They conspire to distribute drugs and prostitution and restrict the movement of Goans in their own land. Roland. On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Rina Mukherjirina.mukhe...@gmail.com wrote: Isn't the sympathy shown by people towards foreigners who have or intending to buy land in Goa a little misplaced?. The laws regarding foreigners buying property in any part of India may be very strict; we ought to understand one cannot equate it with indians settling down or buying property in the US or Canada. We are bursting at the seams; US, or most parts of Europe need people, especially migrants. We are indignant when cheap labour finds its way into India from across the border. Are these foreigners bringing in some special skills that we are short of? Or are we getting cheap labour that we need? They are here as pensioners because life is affordable and cheap; but does that help Goa at all. If anything, it will send land prices skyrocketing! Rina Mukherji Kolkata
