[google-appengine] Re: Zero (0) is not being printed on screen with self.response.out.write

2009-12-21 Thread Phoenix
It works.. but it's of no use to me.. I need to use a variable which
can have 0 as a value and while debugging I need to be sure whether
the value of this variable is coming correctly or not..
It works with "print" but not working with "write"..
print the "0" isn't my objective.. but I'm just confused why I can't
print 0...)
Any other integer is being printed.. then why this issue with 0?

thanks for your reply..

On Dec 22, 12:43 pm, Nickolas Daskalou  wrote:
> Have you tried:
>
> self.response.out.write(str(0))
>
> ?
>
> On Dec 22, 5:11 pm, Phoenix  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hi.. this is the code I'm using..
>
> > self.response.out.write(0) and "0" is not being on screen.. even if
> > this "0" an Integer is in some variable.. like this..
> > new_index = 0
> > self.response.out.write(new_index)
>
> > and nothing comes on screen..
>
> > can anyone have any idea?
>
> > thanks in advance..

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[google-appengine] Re: Zero (0) is not being printed on screen with self.response.out.write

2009-12-21 Thread Nickolas Daskalou
Have you tried:

self.response.out.write(str(0))

?


On Dec 22, 5:11 pm, Phoenix  wrote:
> Hi.. this is the code I'm using..
>
> self.response.out.write(0) and "0" is not being on screen.. even if
> this "0" an Integer is in some variable.. like this..
> new_index = 0
> self.response.out.write(new_index)
>
> and nothing comes on screen..
>
> can anyone have any idea?
>
> thanks in advance..

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[google-appengine] first app upload - blank page

2009-12-21 Thread Whitey
Something dumb I am sure, I have a simple app that works fine across
Safari, Chrome, Firefox on local app engine dev setup (sdk 1.3.0) when
I upload/deploy I get no error, when I access the page I get no errors
(or anything) logged but I get a blank page with a status code of 200,
have tried re-deploying, changing version numbers, deleting versions,
etc, no luck, any ideas?  Thnks.

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[google-appengine] Re: Live update - Comet app in GAE

2009-12-21 Thread Jake
Never understood the advantage with comet over polling... just poll.


On Dec 21, 8:08 pm, Carlos Alberto Machado
 wrote:
> Hi,
>
> How can I build a live update stream similar to FriendFeed (that uses
> Tornado Web Server) or Twitter?
>
> As GAE has a time limit for the response, Comet can't be used. Is
> there an alternative?
>
> Jaiku is OpenSource, runs on top of GAE and is similar to Twitter, but
> I can't detect this 'part' in the code. Does Jaiku live update its
> pages??
>
> Thanks!

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[google-appengine] Zero (0) is not being printed on screen with self.response.out.write

2009-12-21 Thread Phoenix
Hi.. this is the code I'm using..

self.response.out.write(0) and "0" is not being on screen.. even if
this "0" an Integer is in some variable.. like this..
new_index = 0
self.response.out.write(new_index)

and nothing comes on screen..

can anyone have any idea?

thanks in advance..

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[google-appengine] Re: problem in using openid4java

2009-12-21 Thread WdWeaver
I think there is not useful archive or jars.
plz retreive sources from svn repos and build it with maven.
http://code.google.com/p/openid4java/source/browse/#svn/trunk

I suggest you joinning their google groups if you need more help.

On 12月22日, 午後1:19, giridhar kannan  wrote:
> tanks for ur help.
> can u just give me the link so i ll download it..plz

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[google-appengine] Re: problem in using openid4java

2009-12-21 Thread giridhar kannan
tanks for ur help.
can u just give me the link so i ll download it..plz

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[google-appengine] Re: Live update - Comet app in GAE

2009-12-21 Thread niklasro.appspot.com
On Dec 22, 1:08 am, Carlos Alberto Machado
 wrote:
> Hi,
>
> How can I build a live update stream similar to FriendFeed (that uses
> Tornado Web Server) or Twitter?
>
> As GAE has a time limit for the response, Comet can't be used. Is
> there an alternative?
>
> Jaiku is OpenSource, runs on top of GAE and is similar to Twitter, but
> I can't detect this 'part' in the code. Does Jaiku live update its
> pages??
>
> Thanks!
You can use external comet service eg. 
http://code.google.com/p/gae-services-examples/

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[google-appengine] Re: Configure *.ru domain for GAE-hosted application

2009-12-21 Thread skyleecm
you can follow the instruction here
http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine/web/deleting-existing-www-mapping-from-google-apps
to add www mapping for your appengine app in your Google Apps account.


On Dec 20, 7:16 pm, iryndin  wrote:
> Hello, dear All!
>
> I have troubles configuring *.ru domain for my GAE-hosted
> application.
>
> Say, I created GAE-hosted application named, for example azgsmap, so
> it is accessible with URLhttp://azgsmap.appspot.com. Then, I bought
> the domain name azgsmap.ru and want to link it with my application 
> athttp://azgsmap.appspot.com. I tried several approaches, but didn't
> succeed. What am I doing wrong?
>
> I understand that I should have Google apps account to link domain
> name azgsmap.ru with  http://azgsmap.appspot.com.
>
> I did the following:
>
> 1) I have google account named "iryndin". I created GAE-hosted
> application named azgsmap, and uploaded code and storage records to
> it, so that working application is accessible by the 
> URLhttp://azgsmap.appspot.com.
>
> Now I want to linkhttp://azgsmap.appspot.comand "azgsmap.ru" domain.
> I bought domain name "azgsmap.ru". In application console 
> athttp://azgsmap.appspot.comI found no way to link the application with
> domain.
>
> But I realized that I need Google Apps account to link it. Hmmm,
> well.. I decided first try the basic (i.e. free of charge) Google
> Apps account and registered it for name azgsmap.ru.
>
>    Then created CNAME record in my domain name management console so
> that Google verified that I am the real holder of the domain. Google
> verified OK.
>
> Then I created several A records for IP addresses:
>
> 216.239.32.21
> 216.239.34.21
> 216.239.36.21
> 216.239.38.21
>
> as commanded in the 
> articlehttp://www.google.com/support/a/bin/answer.py?hl=ru&answer=91080.
>
> Now, after all, I cannot find the way to link my azgsmap.appspot.com
> with domain azgsmap.ru.
>
> I pressed Versions link in the left menu in Google App Engine panel,
> but there is no way to add domain there.
> Then I pressed "Application settings" link in the left menu, and there
> is a button "Add domain"  there. When I press it, it asks to enter
> domain name. I enter "azgsmap.ru" and press "Add domain" button. I am
> forwarded to Google apps account and again find no way to link
> domains.
>
> I break my head here for several hours and can't go forward.
>
> That's why I decided to write in the group to ask you about it.
>
> Perhaps, any google guy can read this message and help me with my
> problem

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Re: [google-appengine] Live update - Comet app in GAE

2009-12-21 Thread OvermindDL1
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 6:14 PM, William Heath  wrote:
> GAE won't allow a permanent socket to be opened.  Live updating therefore is
> not possible.  The best you can do is poll with ajax.  I am very sad about
> this limitation with GAE.

Ditto, that is the only reason (well, one of two reasons) I am not
using GAE anymore.  No chance at all of keeping connections open for
server-push updating (ala gtalk inside gmail and such).  The other
reason is I prefer C++ to program websites in.  My little C++ web
server blows everything else out in terms of speed, and I can do all
the fancy stuff I could ever possibly imagine, like server-push and
websockets and such.

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Re: [google-appengine] Sessions

2009-12-21 Thread OvermindDL1
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 12:44 PM, hemodroid  wrote:
> It seems like sessions do not last after you close your browser.
> Is it their normal behaviour?

HTTP has no concept of sessions, that is what you are supposed to do
yourself using cookies and such.  So yes, that is normal behavior on
every web server in existence.

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Re: [google-appengine] Live update - Comet app in GAE

2009-12-21 Thread William Heath
GAE won't allow a permanent socket to be opened.  Live updating therefore is
not possible.  The best you can do is poll with ajax.  I am very sad about
this limitation with GAE.

-Tim

On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 5:08 PM, Carlos Alberto Machado <
carlosalberto...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> How can I build a live update stream similar to FriendFeed (that uses
> Tornado Web Server) or Twitter?
>
> As GAE has a time limit for the response, Comet can't be used. Is
> there an alternative?
>
> Jaiku is OpenSource, runs on top of GAE and is similar to Twitter, but
> I can't detect this 'part' in the code. Does Jaiku live update its
> pages??
>
>
> Thanks!
>
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[google-appengine] Live update - Comet app in GAE

2009-12-21 Thread Carlos Alberto Machado
Hi,

How can I build a live update stream similar to FriendFeed (that uses
Tornado Web Server) or Twitter?

As GAE has a time limit for the response, Comet can't be used. Is
there an alternative?

Jaiku is OpenSource, runs on top of GAE and is similar to Twitter, but
I can't detect this 'part' in the code. Does Jaiku live update its
pages??


Thanks!

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[google-appengine] Re: problem in using openid4java

2009-12-21 Thread WdWeaver
Hi,
Their currently release 0.9.5 uses httpclient 3.x using thread that is
not supported by appengine.
Latest svn trunk seems httpclient is upgraded to 4.0.
Please try it.

WdWeaver

On 12月22日, 午前5:05, giridhar kannan  wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> can any 1 explain me how to use openID4java  in GAE.
> when i use openid4java it shows
>
> WARNING: RP discovery / realm validation disabled;
> java.security.AccessControlException: access denied
> (java.lang.RuntimePermission modifyThreadGroup)
>
> plz help me.
>
> Thanks,
> giri

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[google-appengine] problem in using openid4java

2009-12-21 Thread giridhar kannan
Hello everyone,

can any 1 explain me how to use openID4java  in GAE.
when i use openid4java it shows

WARNING: RP discovery / realm validation disabled;
java.security.AccessControlException: access denied
(java.lang.RuntimePermission modifyThreadGroup)

plz help me.

Thanks,
giri

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[google-appengine] Sessions

2009-12-21 Thread hemodroid
It seems like sessions do not last after you close your browser.
Is it their normal behaviour?

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[google-appengine] create an open source blog engine?

2009-12-21 Thread flaminius84
hi,

i had the idea of creating an open source based blog engine for google
app engine. i know that there are already some
of them out there but i still would like to do it. i started a project
and did some entities ... now i am looking for fellow
developers/designers who are interested in joining in ... there is a
lot of stuff to do ;)

let me know if you are interested!!!

cheers.

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[google-appengine] Re: Collecting Statistics on Users like Google Analytics

2009-12-21 Thread aah
Do you really need all detailed data?

Consider to store aggregated data by means of sharded or non-sharded
counters instead:

  http://code.google.com/intl/es/appengine/articles/sharding_counters.html
  
http://blog.appenginefan.com/2009/10/non-sharded-counters-part-2-using-task.html

-aah

On 18 dic, 19:25, killer barney  wrote:
> So here's a problem that I'm having a lot of trouble with.
>
> I want to keep track of the statistical breakdown of my users who
> insert an entity in a certain table of mine.  (Kind of like google
> analytics, when a user visits a webpage, how many are using browsers
> X, how many stay for how long, etc)  How should I go about this? On
> every insert, should I list out all of the user's data into the entity
> and then have a cron job that goes and collects and calculates all the
> data so that it can store it in a culmultive property? It doesn't seem
> like a very scalable idea.  What if I keep adding more stats, that
> table just gets bigger and bigger.
>
> In a relational database, it seems pretty easy.  Just join and the
> count.  Anyone have any ideas on the datastore?

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Re: [google-appengine] Query regarding domain ownership

2009-12-21 Thread Ikai L (Google)
Are you trying to FTP a file, or upload your application using one of the
provided scripts? You will not be able to FTP - you'll want to package up
your application and deploy using one of the tools provided with the SDK.
Here's the documentation for the Python version of the SDK:
http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/python/tools/uploadinganapp.html


On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 1:45 PM, Arpit  wrote:

> hello
>I have an active google app engine account. I have created an
> application. Now its time to approve domain ownership by FPT a html
> file to that but i am not getting that file to server.
> Could u suggest me some solution???
> Everytime when i try to connect this server i always get an ERROR in
> authentications.
> ERROR :::530 Login authentication failed
>
>  i m using my app engine  login and password for authentication.
> Plz tel me if i m making any mistake.
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Re: [google-appengine] Datastore model design question

2009-12-21 Thread Ikai L (Google)
This is a very "RDBMS" way of approaching the problem, and I can see where
you are coming from. One of the challenges of App Engine is learning to take
advantage of the datastore features and redesigning your objects to match.
Without knowing exactly what you are planning to do, it can be difficult to
recommend a solution, as your solution may prove adequate.

An alternate solution could be to make use of List properties. Unlike SQL,
you can have a List property on an object and use equality filters to filter
for objects containing that property. For instance, if you have an Animal,
you could create a favoriteFoods property and add [ "spinach", "lettuce",
"bamboo" ] and be able to search using GQL (assuming you are using Python)
for this animal using the query "Select * from Animal where favoriteFoods ==
'bamboo'". It may make sense in your situation to use a List of child key
objects, then filter for that key. Here's some documentation:
http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/python/datastore/typesandpropertyclasses.html#ListProperty

There are also a set of pretty good articles that were published under the
"Articles" link for the "Mastering the Datastore" series you may want to
read: http://code.google.com/appengine/articles/

On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 3:07 PM, cppforlife  wrote:

> Hey all,
>
> I decided to play with app engine and got stuck on this problem.
> I have two entities List and ListItem. What I need to do is to
> associate many ListItems with a List however i cannot simply
> use db.ReferenceProperty in ListItem class because each ListItem can
> be part of multiple Lists. I figured that we can use
> db.ListProperty(db.key) in List class to keep multiple list items but
> is this
> efficient if each list would have about 100-200 items? However last
> method,
> cannot be used in my case becuase I need
> priority value for each ListItem and priority of ListItem might differ
> between different Lists for same ListItem so approach with
> ListProperty(db.key) doesnt work. I ended with this:
>
>
> class List(db.Model):
>name = db.StringProperty()
>
> class ListToListItem(db.Model):
>list = db.ReferenceProperty(List)
>item = db.ReferenceProperty(ListItem)
>priority = db.Int...
>
> class ListItem(db.Model):
>name = db.StringProperty()
>
>
> Am I doing this right or there is a better/efficient way?
>
> Thank you in advance,
> Dmitriy
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[google-appengine] Re: Forbidden Error: Your client does not have permission to get URL when I put "secure: always"

2009-12-21 Thread dhruvg
Nvm.. found my problem. I was using the secure features on Google Apps
domain.

Anyone know when Google will start supporting HTTPS on Google Apps
domains?

On Dec 21, 3:44 pm, dhruvg  wrote:
> I added a flag "secure: always" under all my scripts that require
> prior login. Now, when I upload my app on the web, I get the following
> error (after I successfully login) only on the pages which are
> supposed to be secure.
>
> Error: Forbidden
>
> Your client does not have permission to get URL user/dashboard from
> this server.
>
> What am I doing wrong? Thanks in advance.

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Re: [google-appengine] Re: Index building taking over 12h

2009-12-21 Thread Ikai L (Google)
Brade, your index could be stuck. What is your app ID?

On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Brade  wrote:

> GOOD LORD MY INDEX IS STILL "BUILDING"...
>
> On Dec 18, 10:53 am, Brade  wrote:
> > This is one of those "ugly truths" about app engine, as glorious as it
> > is otherwise.
> > Perhaps there should be more emphasis on the necessity of deploying a
> > new index definition before adding new features to one's app?
> > My appwww.klection.comluckily is not "mission critical" but the
> > aggregated comments section "What You Say" is about 12 hours along on
> > its "building" status, as all I added was a __key__ desc index for
> > comments (which there are less than 50 of right now). BTW my local dev
> > environment failed to add this index automagically for some odd
> > reason, so it took me a while even to troubleshoot the fact I needed
> > to add it manually (because the functionality was working fine in my
> > local environment).
> >
> > I will be starting fairly soon on my next GAE app, and these sorts of
> > issues make me wary. As fantastic as it is in many respects, the
> > indexing problems really affect the reliability of the system. It's
> > nice to see the recent emphasis in the Articles section about the
> > Datastore, but hopefully in the near future there will be better
> > information reporting when deploying your app, because things that
> > work great on your local dev environment should not completely break
> > once deployed. That seems borderline unacceptable at present.
> >
> > --brad g.
> >
> > On Dec 3, 4:12 am, "Nick Johnson (Google)" 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> >
> > > We're working on speeding up index building times. There's nothing you
> can
> > > do as a user to speed up index building.
> >
> > > -Nick Johnson
> >
> > > On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 6:35 PM, jpmorganuk
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > > Hi Nick,
> >
> > > > What can be done to speed this up?
> >
> > > > Regards,
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[google-appengine] Forbidden Error: Your client does not have permission to get URL when I put "secure: always"

2009-12-21 Thread dhruvg
I added a flag "secure: always" under all my scripts that require
prior login. Now, when I upload my app on the web, I get the following
error (after I successfully login) only on the pages which are
supposed to be secure.

Error: Forbidden

Your client does not have permission to get URL user/dashboard from
this server.

What am I doing wrong? Thanks in advance.

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[google-appengine] Re: Server Error when trying to log into the control panel

2009-12-21 Thread buger
Now fixed

On 21 дек, 21:39, buger  wrote:
> Immediately after login, it redirects 
> tohttps://appengine.google.com/_ah/login?continue=https://appengine.goo...
> with error:
>   Error: Server Error
>   The server encountered an error and could not complete your request.

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[google-appengine] Re: OverQuotaException

2009-12-21 Thread WMS
Ok, nevermind, it was a bad update I made that had some code going in
an infinite loop, but I think the message should be changed, it really
made me think there was something wrong with the quotas and
appengine... usually when you go over the 30 seconds it says
HardDeadlineException and not OverQuota.


On Dec 21, 1:01 pm, WMS  wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Is it just me? Or is it a general issue today?
>
> I am getting lots of "com.google.apphosting.api.ApiProxy
> $OverQuotaException: The API call datastore_v3.Get() required more
> quota than is unavailable.", but my most used quota is just at 44%
> right now (it is not a free quota app) and I got no short-term quota
> warning.
>
> Can someone at google look at that? My appid is footbattle
>
> Thanks

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[google-appengine] Re: Using Google App Engine as Backend Database for Android Applications

2009-12-21 Thread yadoo
The idea looks niceI like it.

My advice: use REST style

On Dec 20, 10:33 am, Doughy  wrote:
> I would like to write a client application for Android that uses the
> Google App Engine as a database backend.  My Android client would
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Re: [google-appengine] Re: Eclipse: no Google menu options after update to 1.3.0

2009-12-21 Thread Miguel Méndez
Can you look in the Error Log (Window > Show Views > Error Log) for clues?
 If you don't have that view then you can look in the
${YOUR_WORKSPACE_PATH}/.metadata/.log file.

On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 1:16 AM, MiloDC  wrote:

> Broken for me, as well.  No Google entries in the Preferences dialog
> or any menu.  No longer able to deploy Google Wave projects.
>
>
>
> On Dec 19, 2:52 am, Delo  wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am running an Eclipse EE 3.5 on Windows Vista (Build id:
> > 20090920-1017) and I have successfully used the GAE plugin 1.2.6 and
> > GWT plugin 1.7.1. My application is running on GAE.
> >
> > Yesterday I updated to GAE 1.3.0 and GWT 2.0.0 via "Help->Install new
> > software". After the update my project showed errors on all Google
> > related classes ("import cannot be resolved"). The links to the google
> > libs are shown as "com.google.appengine.eclipse.core.GAE_CONTAINER"
> > and "com.google.gwt.eclipse.core.GWT_CONTAINER". Furthermore, the
> > Google menu in the preferences dialog is gone and in the "New
> > project..." dialog there is no option to create a new web application
> > project, the complete Google category is missing. But: if I go to
> Help->About Eclipse->Installation details->Installed software, all three
> >
> > plugins are listed correctly with the newest version (GAE plugin is
> > dated 20091214, GWT and Google plugins are dated 20091206).
> >
> > I have already tried to uninstall the Google plugin, the GAE plugin
> > and the GWT plugin and to reinstall them - no success. I have
> > uninstalled them again, deleted all Google related entries in C:\Users
> > \Delo\.eclipse\org.eclipse.platform_3.5.0_1709980481\features and C:
> > \Users\Delo\.eclipse/org.eclipse.platform_3.5.0_1709980481\plugins,
> > deleted the configuration directory, started Eclipse with the "-clean"
> > option and installed again, but no success. Still the same: plugins
> > are shown as correctly installed but no Google options anywhere.
> >
> > Does anybody have similar problems or can anybody give me a hint what
> > I could try next?
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> > Delo
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[google-appengine] Server Error when trying to log into the control panel

2009-12-21 Thread buger
Immediately after login, it redirects to
https://appengine.google.com/_ah/login?continue=https://appengine.google.com/
with error:
  Error: Server Error
  The server encountered an error and could not complete your request.

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[google-appengine] OverQuotaException

2009-12-21 Thread WMS
Hello,

Is it just me? Or is it a general issue today?

I am getting lots of "com.google.apphosting.api.ApiProxy
$OverQuotaException: The API call datastore_v3.Get() required more
quota than is unavailable.", but my most used quota is just at 44%
right now (it is not a free quota app) and I got no short-term quota
warning.


Can someone at google look at that? My appid is footbattle


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Re: [google-appengine] GAE Python Chinese feed url fetch problem

2009-12-21 Thread Ikai L (Google)
It shouldn't be that bad. Just pass "identity" as the accept-encoding
header. The only tradeoff is that you are going to pay a higher bandwidth
cost. There's nothing else you can do in your application - if you get bad
data in one format consistently but not in a more expensive format, go for
the more expensive format unless you can throw away bad responses.

On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 8:27 AM, Alan Xing  wrote:

> ikai, you bet your money correctly. we confirmed your diagnose. The pain
> point, though, is that there are quite a few popular feed service providers
> having these kind of problems. sorry for replying  back to you late.
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 3:40 AM, Ikai L (Google) wrote:
>
>> It looks like there may be an issue with feedsky and responding to
>> "Accepts-Encoding: gzip" header. I changed urlfetch to work like this:
>>
>> content = urlfetch.fetch(url, headers={ "Accept-Encoding" : "identity" })
>>
>> It has not failed on me once. I also tried the following experiments. I'm
>> just using straight curl here, no fancy programs. Note how I am cut off
>> sometimes:
>>
>> compu...@computer:/tmp$ curl -i -H "Accept-Encoding: gzip"
>> http://feed.feedsky.com/qiushi > blah
>>   % Total% Received % Xferd  Average Speed   TimeTime Time
>> Current
>>  Dload  Upload   Total   SpentLeft
>> Speed
>> 100  180k  100  180k0 0   100k  0  0:00:01  0:00:01 --:--:--
>> 127k
>> compu...@computer:/tmp$ curl -i -H "Accept-Encoding: gzip"
>> http://feed.feedsky.com/qiushi > blah
>>   % Total% Received % Xferd  Average Speed   TimeTime Time
>> Current
>>  Dload  Upload   Total   SpentLeft
>> Speed
>> 100  180k  100  180k0 0   103k  0  0:00:01  0:00:01 --:--:--
>> 133k
>> compu...@computer:/tmp$ curl -i -H "Accept-Encoding: gzip"
>> http://feed.feedsky.com/qiushi > blah
>>   % Total% Received % Xferd  Average Speed   TimeTime Time
>> Current
>>  Dload  Upload   Total   SpentLeft
>> Speed
>> 100  180k  100  180k0 0   103k  0  0:00:01  0:00:01 --:--:--
>> 133k
>> compu...@computer:/tmp$ curl -i -H "Accept-Encoding: gzip"
>> http://feed.feedsky.com/qiushi > blah
>>   % Total% Received % Xferd  Average Speed   TimeTime Time
>> Current
>>  Dload  Upload   Total   SpentLeft
>> Speed
>> 100  180k  100  180k0 0   103k  0  0:00:01  0:00:01 --:--:--
>> 132k
>> compu...@computer:/tmp$ curl -i -H "Accept-Encoding: gzip"
>> http://feed.feedsky.com/qiushi > blah
>>   % Total% Received % Xferd  Average Speed   TimeTime Time
>> Current
>>  Dload  Upload   Total   SpentLeft
>> Speed
>> 100  180k  100  180k0 0   103k  0  0:00:01  0:00:01 --:--:--
>> 132k
>> compu...@computer:/tmp$ curl -i -H "Accept-Encoding: gzip"
>> http://feed.feedsky.com/qiushi > blah
>>   % Total% Received % Xferd  Average Speed   TimeTime Time
>> Current
>>  Dload  Upload   Total   SpentLeft
>> Speed
>> 100  180k  100  180k0 0   103k  0  0:00:01  0:00:01 --:--:--
>> 133k
>> compu...@computer:/tmp$ curl -i -H "Accept-Encoding: gzip"
>> http://feed.feedsky.com/qiushi > blah
>>   % Total% Received % Xferd  Average Speed   TimeTime Time
>> Current
>>  Dload  Upload   Total   SpentLeft
>> Speed
>>  21  180k   21 398860 0   6885  0  0:00:26  0:00:05
>> 0:00:21 0
>> curl: (18) transfer closed with 145287 bytes remaining to read
>> compu...@computer:/tmp$ curl -i -H "Accept-Encoding: gzip"
>> http://feed.feedsky.com/qiushi > blah
>>   % Total% Received % Xferd  Average Speed   TimeTime Time
>> Current
>>  Dload  Upload   Total   SpentLeft
>> Speed
>> 100  180k  100  180k0 0   103k  0  0:00:01  0:00:01 --:--:--
>> 132k
>> compu...@computer:/tmp$ curl -i -H "Accept-Encoding: gzip"
>> http://feed.feedsky.com/qiushi > blah
>>   % Total% Received % Xferd  Average Speed   TimeTime Time
>> Current
>>  Dload  Upload   Total   SpentLeft
>> Speed
>>  21  180k   21 398860 0   6879  0  0:00:26  0:00:05
>> 0:00:21 0
>> curl: (18) transfer closed with 145287 bytes remaining to read
>>
>> Here's the same test passing a different "Accept-Encoding" header:
>>
>> compu...@computer:/tmp$ curl -i -H "Accept-Encoding: identity"
>> http://feed.feedsky.com/qiushi > blah
>>   % Total% Received % Xferd  Average Speed   TimeTime Time
>> Current
>>  Dload  Upload   Total   SpentLeft
>> Speed
>> 100  180k  100  180k0 0   115k  0  0:00:01  0:00:01 --:--:--
>> 154k
>> compu...@computer:/tmp$ curl -i -H "Accept-Encoding: identity"
>> http://feed.feedsky.com/qiushi > blah
>>   % Total% Received % Xfe

Re: [google-appengine] Lost app-id after activating my account with Google Apps

2009-12-21 Thread Jason (Google)
Hi will. As Nickolas wrote, did you try signing in to
http://appengine.google.com/a/friesenpress.com?

- Jason

On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 11:49 AM, FriesenPress wrote:

> I've lost my app-id "friesen-press" in my App Engine account after I
> activated a Google Apps account using my App Engine account. I had to
> reactivate the account and after I was reactivated my existing app-id
> is missing.
>
> I would really like to get "friesen-press" back since it's the closest
> name I could get that represented our domain name "friesenpress.com"
>
> If anyone can help it would be much appreciated - I've already linked
> up my Apps account to the now missing app-id.
>
> -will
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[google-appengine] Re: Using Google App Engine as Backend Database for Android Applications

2009-12-21 Thread Grant
All you can do on Appengine is hit URLs

So you could use normal HTTP post, get, put etc. to hit URLs which
then perform updates and queries on the datastore.

Basically you have no direct external access to the datastore, but you
could build yourself an API.

Grant



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> I would like to write a client application for Android that uses the
> Google App Engine as a database backend.  My Android client would
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> the App Engine as a backend like this?

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[google-appengine] Re: how to ftp html files on app server for domain ownership

2009-12-21 Thread johnwlockwood
you have to setup your app to handle the request for the root url of
your domain.
look at the guest book sample 
http://code.google.com/p/google-app-engine-samples/source/browse/trunk/guestbook
look at app.yaml, see how it maps /.* to guestbook6_templates.py?

now see how the MainPage class of guestbook6_templates.py creates a
response with index.html template file.

if you replace index.html with yours, your page will load for the main
page of the site.

then read 
http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/python/gettingstarted/uploading.html
on how to upload your app.

-John



On Dec 19, 4:03 pm, arpit dawda  wrote:
> hello
>         I have an active google app engine account. I have created an
> application. Now its time to approve domain ownership by FPT a html file to
> that but i am not getting that file to server.
> Could u suggest me some solution???
> Everytime when i try to connect this server i always get an ERROR in
> authentications.
> ERROR :::    530 Login authentication failed
>
>  i m using my app engine  login and password for authentication.
> Plz tel me if i m making any mistake.
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[google-appengine] Re: Unable to install GAE on Fedora 12

2009-12-21 Thread Stephen
On Dec 20, 11:06 pm, amigan  wrote:
> I am getting errors when I try to run dev_appserver.py.  Please note I
> am running FC12 and Python 2.6.4.

You will have to install Python 2.5.x from source and run the SDK with
that.

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[google-appengine] Configure *.ru domain for GAE-hosted application

2009-12-21 Thread iryndin
Hello, dear All!

I have troubles configuring *.ru domain for my GAE-hosted
application.

Say, I created GAE-hosted application named, for example azgsmap, so
it is accessible with URL http://azgsmap.appspot.com. Then, I bought
the domain name azgsmap.ru and want to link it with my application at
http://azgsmap.appspot.com . I tried several approaches, but didn't
succeed. What am I doing wrong?

I understand that I should have Google apps account to link domain
name azgsmap.ru with  http://azgsmap.appspot.com.

I did the following:

1) I have google account named "iryndin". I created GAE-hosted
application named azgsmap, and uploaded code and storage records to
it, so that working application is accessible by the URL 
http://azgsmap.appspot.com.

Now I want to link http://azgsmap.appspot.com and "azgsmap.ru" domain.
I bought domain name "azgsmap.ru". In application console at
http://azgsmap.appspot.com I found no way to link the application with
domain.

But I realized that I need Google Apps account to link it. Hmmm,
well.. I decided first try the basic (i.e. free of charge) Google
Apps account and registered it for name azgsmap.ru.

   Then created CNAME record in my domain name management console so
that Google verified that I am the real holder of the domain. Google
verified OK.

Then I created several A records for IP addresses:

216.239.32.21
216.239.34.21
216.239.36.21
216.239.38.21

as commanded in the article 
http://www.google.com/support/a/bin/answer.py?hl=ru&answer=91080.

Now, after all, I cannot find the way to link my azgsmap.appspot.com
with domain azgsmap.ru.

I pressed Versions link in the left menu in Google App Engine panel,
but there is no way to add domain there.
Then I pressed "Application settings" link in the left menu, and there
is a button "Add domain"  there. When I press it, it asks to enter
domain name. I enter "azgsmap.ru" and press "Add domain" button. I am
forwarded to Google apps account and again find no way to link
domains.

I break my head here for several hours and can't go forward.

That's why I decided to write in the group to ask you about it.

Perhaps, any google guy can read this message and help me with my
problem


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[google-appengine] BUG OF DASHBOARD

2009-12-21 Thread wa333
App engine dashboard does not work.
When I use an google account of my own domain name.
It works well when I use gmail  account.
I have two App engine account

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[google-appengine] Blobstore - my wishlist

2009-12-21 Thread Haggai
1. Blobstore will be the GAE answer to Amazon S3 - simpler interface
to upload, download and browse files.
2. Blobs will be avail for manipulation on server side.
3. A map reduce framework will be introduce by Google to work on blobs

Have any of the above ever been considered ?

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[google-appengine] Query regarding domain ownership

2009-12-21 Thread Arpit
hello
I have an active google app engine account. I have created an
application. Now its time to approve domain ownership by FPT a html
file to that but i am not getting that file to server.
Could u suggest me some solution???
Everytime when i try to connect this server i always get an ERROR in
authentications.
ERROR :::530 Login authentication failed

 i m using my app engine  login and password for authentication.
Plz tel me if i m making any mistake.

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[google-appengine] Re: Eclipse: no Google menu options after update to 1.3.0

2009-12-21 Thread MiloDC
Broken for me, as well.  No Google entries in the Preferences dialog
or any menu.  No longer able to deploy Google Wave projects.



On Dec 19, 2:52 am, Delo  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am running an Eclipse EE 3.5 on Windows Vista (Build id:
> 20090920-1017) and I have successfully used the GAE plugin 1.2.6 and
> GWT plugin 1.7.1. My application is running on GAE.
>
> Yesterday I updated to GAE 1.3.0 and GWT 2.0.0 via "Help->Install new
> software". After the update my project showed errors on all Google
> related classes ("import cannot be resolved"). The links to the google
> libs are shown as "com.google.appengine.eclipse.core.GAE_CONTAINER"
> and "com.google.gwt.eclipse.core.GWT_CONTAINER". Furthermore, the
> Google menu in the preferences dialog is gone and in the "New
> project..." dialog there is no option to create a new web application
> project, the complete Google category is missing. But: if I go to Help->About 
> Eclipse->Installation details->Installed software, all three
>
> plugins are listed correctly with the newest version (GAE plugin is
> dated 20091214, GWT and Google plugins are dated 20091206).
>
> I have already tried to uninstall the Google plugin, the GAE plugin
> and the GWT plugin and to reinstall them - no success. I have
> uninstalled them again, deleted all Google related entries in C:\Users
> \Delo\.eclipse\org.eclipse.platform_3.5.0_1709980481\features and C:
> \Users\Delo\.eclipse/org.eclipse.platform_3.5.0_1709980481\plugins,
> deleted the configuration directory, started Eclipse with the "-clean"
> option and installed again, but no success. Still the same: plugins
> are shown as correctly installed but no Google options anywhere.
>
> Does anybody have similar problems or can anybody give me a hint what
> I could try next?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Delo

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[google-appengine] getting an exception in servlet while using POST AJAX- only on Firefox

2009-12-21 Thread Gili Vaturi
hi,
i'm getting the following error in the app engine:
java.security.AccessControlException: access denied
(java.lang.RuntimePermission accessDeclaredMembers)

the strange thing is that it happens only on FF. works well on IE and
Chrome.

it happens when i exceute the following code:

//purpose: test sending a large string with POST function
function postOldForm(){
var http;

if (window.XMLHttpRequest)
  {
  // code for IE7+, Firefox, Chrome, Opera, Safari
  http=new XMLHttpRequest();
  }
else if (window.ActiveXObject)
  {
  // code for IE6, IE5
http=new ActiveXObject("Microsoft.XMLHTTP");
  }
var url = "http://totochartswebservice.appspot.com/
totoOldFormStorage";
var gili="111";
for (i=0;i<300;i++){
gili=gili+i;
}
var gili2="222";
var params = "lorem=" + escape(gili) + "&content=" + gili2;
http.open("POST", url, true);

//Send the proper header information along with the request
http.setRequestHeader("Content-type", "application/x-www-form-
urlencoded");
//http.setRequestHeader("Content-length", params.length);
//http.setRequestHeader("Connection", "close");

http.onreadystatechange = function() {//Call a function when the
state changes.
if(http.readyState == 4 && http.status == 200) {
alert(http.responseText);
}
}
http.send(params);
}

my servlet totoOldFormStorage looks like this:
public void doPost(HttpServletRequest request, HttpServletResponse
response) throws ServletException, IOException
  {
String params;
params=request.getParameter("lorem");
oldForm old=new oldForm(123,params);

String result="success";
DBMethods.saveInDB(old, true);

response.setContentType("text/plain;charset=UTF-8");
response.getWriter().println(params.length());
System.out.println(params.length());

  }


DBMethods is a class that summons a PM object, and stores the oldForm
object in the Datastore.

can anyone think of a reason for this exception?

thank you,
Gili

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[google-appengine] Incoming Mail Headers

2009-12-21 Thread Jason
>From my reading of the documentation, there is no way to get the raw
headers of an incoming mail message.  Is this correct?  Are there any
announced plans for expanding this functionality to include raw
headers, if so?  My application requires uncommon message headers.

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[google-appengine] Simple data access works on dev server, error when deployed

2009-12-21 Thread Mookie
Hi everyone,

My app works on my local dev server, but upon deployment I get the
error below. I'm following the instructions from this step-by-step
guide to writing your own blog engine:

http://brizzled.clapper.org/id/77

...and the failing line of code was not modified from what the author
provides. Here's the link to the code:

http://www.clapper.org/software/python/picoblog/picoblog.zip

Any ideas?

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Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/base/python_lib/versions/1/google/appengine/ext/webapp/
__init__.py", line 507, in __call__
handler.get(*groups)
  File "/base/data/home/apps/pmdan-blog/1.338572358233171964/blog.py",
line 243, in get
articles = Article.published()
  File "/base/data/home/apps/pmdan-blog/1.338572358233171964/
models.py", line 39, in published
.fetch(FETCH_THEM_ALL)
  File "/base/python_lib/versions/1/google/appengine/ext/db/
__init__.py", line 1585, in fetch
raw = raw_query.Get(limit, offset)
  File "/base/python_lib/versions/1/google/appengine/api/
datastore.py", line 1079, in Get
prefetch_count=limit)._Get(limit)
  File "/base/python_lib/versions/1/google/appengine/api/
datastore.py", line 1013, in _Run
datastore_pb.QueryResult())
  File "/base/python_lib/versions/1/google/appengine/api/
datastore.py", line 160, in _MakeSyncCall
resp = apiproxy_stub_map.MakeSyncCall(service, call, request,
response)
  File "/base/python_lib/versions/1/google/appengine/api/
apiproxy_stub_map.py", line 78, in MakeSyncCall
return apiproxy.MakeSyncCall(service, call, request, response)
  File "/base/python_lib/versions/1/google/appengine/api/
apiproxy_stub_map.py", line 276, in MakeSyncCall
rpc.MakeCall(service, call, request, response)
  File "/base/python_lib/versions/1/google/appengine/api/
apiproxy_rpc.py", line 93, in MakeCall
self._MakeCallImpl()
  File "/base/python_lib/versions/1/google/appengine/runtime/
apiproxy.py", line 128, in _MakeCallImpl
self.request.Output(e)
  File "/base/python_lib/versions/1/google/net/proto/
ProtocolBuffer.py", line 163, in Output
self.OutputUnchecked(e)
  File "/base/python_lib/versions/1/google/appengine/datastore/
datastore_pb.py", line 889, in OutputUnchecked
out.putVarInt32(self.limit_)
  File "/base/python_lib/versions/1/google/net/proto/
ProtocolBuffer.py", line 301, in putVarInt32
raise ProtocolBufferEncodeError, "int32 too big"
ProtocolBufferEncodeError: int32 too big

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[google-appengine] Using Google App Engine as Backend Database for Android Applications

2009-12-21 Thread Doughy
I would like to write a client application for Android that uses the
Google App Engine as a database backend.  My Android client would
connect to the App Engine to save information.  Is it possible to use
the App Engine as a backend like this?

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[google-appengine] Re: Cron jobs fail with error "Request was aborted after waiting too long to attempt to service your request."

2009-12-21 Thread Peter
Yes, the same here. I have cron running every 5 minutes and got this
error despite servlet is very elementary and there's no other traffic.

There's only this in executed code:
log.warning("Cron executed " + System.currentTimeMillis());
try {
response.getWriter().write("Cron executed " +
System.currentTimeMillis());
response.getWriter().close();
} catch (IOException e) {
e.printStackTrace();
}

I do not see a reason why it should take more than 10 seconds to
execute. Maybe we do something wrong. Guys, is your code more
complicated?
Peter


On Dec 14, 1:11 pm, Abhi  wrote:
> Sometimes mycronjobs fail with a HTTP 500 error and message:-
>
> Request was aborted after waitingtoolongto attempt to service your
> request. Most likely, this indicates that you have reached your
> simultaneous dynamic request limit. This is almost always due to
> excessively high latency in your app. Please 
> seehttp://code.google.com/appengine/docs/quotas.htmlfor more details.
>
> When this happens the logs show that the job took about 10086ms of CPU
> time. Thecronis the only job running in the application and it fires
> one request every 5 minutes. I don't see any reason of why the quota
> for simultaneous request should be exceed by this one req/5 minutes
> application. There is nothing else this application is doing.
>
> If i access the same page (which has admin only permissions - so i am
> sure no one else can access it) from a browser it never fails.
>
> Can someone help me with this?

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[google-appengine] he dashobard of my account does not work.

2009-12-21 Thread 愛LoveJpカスタマーサポート
The dashobard of my account does not work.
HELP ME

i...@ailove.jp <<--- my google account and my app engine account

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[google-appengine] how to ftp html files on app server for domain ownership

2009-12-21 Thread arpit dawda
hello
I have an active google app engine account. I have created an
application. Now its time to approve domain ownership by FPT a html file to
that but i am not getting that file to server.
Could u suggest me some solution???
Everytime when i try to connect this server i always get an ERROR in
authentications.
ERROR :::530 Login authentication failed

 i m using my app engine  login and password for authentication.
Plz tel me if i m making any mistake.


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[google-appengine] Re: cron - too many continues

2009-12-21 Thread Wesley Chun (Google)
mark,

glad you were able to figure it out on your own. it seems that it
turned into a "redirect" problem after all.

@googlegeeza: are you still having this problem or have you figured it
out as well? i tried your example, and it "works for me."

best regards,
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On Dec 18, 1:16 pm, Mark  wrote:
> I figured out another cause of this error.  If you have the URL
> handler set to "secure: always" then it will also fail.  The cron hits
> the http version, and gets redirected to https, which it doesn't
> like.
>
> On Dec 18, 1:09 pm, Mark  wrote:
>
>
>
> > I get the same error, and I'm just outputting text, no logging.  I
> > hope this limitation gets removed.  Let me know if anyone knows a
> > workaround besides using another cron service.
>
> > On Nov 25, 4:28 am, googlegeeza
>
> >  wrote:
> > > yes, app.yaml is correctly configured - i can run the code via a url
>
> > > On Nov 24, 2:36 am, Eli Jones  wrote:
>
> > > > does your app.yaml have the appropriate lines to handle the cron url as
> > > > well?
>
> > > > app.yaml should have this line before other handlers:
> > > > - url: /testcron
> > > > script: test.py
> > > > or something like that..
>
> > > > On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 8:43 AM, googlegeeza <
>
> > > > gwynhow...@steppingstonesoftware.co.uk> wrote:
> > > > > i know this has been posted before, but in other posts the error was
> > > > > caused by redirects and other issues.
>
> > > > > i have a cron job scheduled to run every minute (also tried it every 5
> > > > > minutes). the cron job runs some code which prints a string to the the
> > > > > log, that's it. but it doesn't run. the error on the cron jobs page in
> > > > > the admin console is "Toomanycontinues". This doesn't make sense as
> > > > > I am not doing anything in the job, just printing to the log. Code as
> > > > > below:
>
> > > > > cron.yaml:
> > > > > cron:
> > > > > - description: TestCron
> > > > >  url: /testcron
> > > > >  schedule: every 1 minutes
>
> > > > > test.py:
> > > > > class TestCron(webapp.RequestHandler):
> > > > >    def get(self):
> > > > >        logging.info('cron test')
>
> > > > > application = webapp.WSGIApplication( [('/testcron', TestCron),],
> > > > > debug=True)
>
> > > > > Why is it reportingtoomanycontinues? I am not looping anything, or
> > > > > causing anything to 'continue' in any way.
>
> > > > > Nothing gets printed to the log which suggests it's not even trying to
> > > > > run my TestCron class.

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[google-appengine] Adding Class files classpath for Wave bot

2009-12-21 Thread Philip How
Hey,

I'm making a Wave bot using the google plugin for Eclipse and I want
to implement a package I have in class files. Where's the best place
to put these? I placed them in the lib directory in war/WEB-INF and
eclipse compiled fine, but the App Engine doesn't find them.

Any help would be appreciated.

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[google-appengine] Datastore model design question

2009-12-21 Thread cppforlife
Hey all,

I decided to play with app engine and got stuck on this problem.
I have two entities List and ListItem. What I need to do is to
associate many ListItems with a List however i cannot simply
use db.ReferenceProperty in ListItem class because each ListItem can
be part of multiple Lists. I figured that we can use
db.ListProperty(db.key) in List class to keep multiple list items but
is this
efficient if each list would have about 100-200 items? However last
method,
cannot be used in my case becuase I need
priority value for each ListItem and priority of ListItem might differ
between different Lists for same ListItem so approach with
ListProperty(db.key) doesnt work. I ended with this:


class List(db.Model):
name = db.StringProperty()

class ListToListItem(db.Model):
list = db.ReferenceProperty(List)
item = db.ReferenceProperty(ListItem)
priority = db.Int...

class ListItem(db.Model):
name = db.StringProperty()


Am I doing this right or there is a better/efficient way?

Thank you in advance,
Dmitriy

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[google-appengine] Unable to install GAE on Fedora 12

2009-12-21 Thread amigan
I am getting errors when I try to run dev_appserver.py.  Please note I
am running FC12 and Python 2.6.4.  Any thoughts on how to successfully
install the GAE SDK?  Note the errrors below.  Thank-you.

[r...@fedora1 google_appengine]# uname -a
Linux fedora1.homenet 2.6.31.6-145.fc12.i686.PAE #1 SMP Sat Nov 21
16:12:37 EST 2009 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux

[r...@fedora1 google_appengine]# python
Python 2.6.4 (r264:75706, Dec 20 2009, 13:30:01)
[GCC 4.4.2 20091027 (Red Hat 4.4.2-7)] on linux2

Note the following output from dev_appserver.py

[r...@fedora1 google_appengine]# ./dev_appserver.py
/home/alexander/Downloads/google_appengine/google/appengine/tools/
appcfg.py:41: DeprecationWarning: the sha module is deprecated; use
the hashlib module instead
 import sha
/home/alexander/Downloads/google_appengine/google/appengine/api/
datastore_file_stub.py:40: DeprecationWarning: the md5 module is
deprecated; use hashlib instead
 import md5
Invalid arguments
Runs a development application server for an application.

dev_appserver.py [options] 

Application root must be the path to the application to run in this
server.
Must contain a valid app.yaml or app.yml file.

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[google-appengine] appspot ipv6?

2009-12-21 Thread nunojpg
When will GAP be IPv6 enabled?

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[google-appengine] Broken AppEngine Console

2009-12-21 Thread Jason Vasquez
Looks like a number of people have posted about this, but I haven't
seen an answer yet...

I have a Google Apps 'standard' domain associated with the email
address I use with my AppEngine login. (ja...@mugfu.com)

When I visit http://appengine.google.com, I get redirected to
http://appengine.google.com/start -- but I can't see the console, or
any of my applications listed there.  Since I have a standard Google
Apps account, AppEngine isn't part of the package, so I can't manage
it via https://www.google.com/a/cpanel/[mydomain]

Is it possible to access an AppEngine console for this account?

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Re: [google-appengine] Noob: Python or Java???

2009-12-21 Thread Wesley Chun
> Presumably I can put Python or Java code up on the Google "GAE server"
> roughly akin to ColdFusion&IIS while BigTable equates to MySql (albeit
> non-relational etc).

greetings! your assessment is fairly accurate. you will build a
complete application (web or otherwise) in Python or Java, then upload
it to the App Engine hosting mechanism to provide your service. you
are scalable via Google's infrastructure, and instead of a relational
database, you have the App Engine datastore which sits on top of Big
Table.


> But is the GWT Java code (ie which is transduced into JavaScript)
> integrated/analogous with the same "ServerSide Logic" or is this
> different code altogether?

i haven't had a chance to play with GWT in-depth yet, but i would
state that you're likely to get a better answer by asking this
question in the GWT forums instead of this one. however, it is very
different from what i know about GWT. (i'll let those of you who know
better correct me as necessary here!) with GWT, you use Java to create
a *client-side* application, taking advantage of Java's type-checking
ensuring a robust app. you would then access backend services via AJAX
which renders your changes in your UI. all of your code is compiled
into JS so that it will run seamlessly on any browser.

however, as you can smell, this code is geared towards client. in
contrast, App Engine gives you ability to do both (client- and
server-side code). you're primarily writing backend server-side
functionality, but in doing so, you control what UI your users see. a
web templating engine is provided (but you can swap in your own), and
you can return HTML/CSS with JS as you wish to execute client side.
for writing your backend code, using Python or Java has the same
results -- there really isn't a difference except for your preference
of implementation language.

hope this helps!
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[google-appengine] Re: Eclipse: no Google menu options after update to 1.3.0

2009-12-21 Thread MiloDC
Confirmed, my Google Wave projects no longer build and cannot be
deployed, and there is no trace of Google in the preferences dialog or
any of my menus.

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[google-appengine] Sharing Databases across different applications

2009-12-21 Thread KK
Hi

I have multiple appengine applications and I would like to use one
database created in one application in another application. Is it
possible? If yes how?
If not, what's the easiest way to copy the database from one
application to another application?

Thanks
KK

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[google-appengine] Re: how to delete a table/entity?

2009-12-21 Thread Andy Freeman
What statistics are you talking about?

You're claiming that one can't page through an entity type without
fetching all instances and sorting them.  That claim is wrong because
the order by constraint does exactly that.

For example, suppose that you want to page through by a date/time
field named "datetime".  The query for the first page uses order by
datetime while queries for subsequent pages have a "datetime <="
clause for the last datetime value from the previous page and continue
to order by datetime.

What part of that do you think doesn't work?

Do you think that Nick was wrong when he said that time time to
execute such query depends on the number of entities?

You can even do random access by using markers that are added/
maintained by a sequential process like the above.

On Dec 20, 7:34 pm, ajaxer  wrote:
> You misunderstand.
> if not show me a site with statistics on many fields.
> with more than 1000 pages please.
> thanks.
>
> On Dec 21, 9:06 am, Andy Freeman  wrote:
>
>
>
> > You misunderstand.
>
> > If you have an ordering based on one or more indexed properties, you
> > can page efficiently wrt that ordering, regardless of the number of
> > data items.  (For the purposes of this discussion, __key__ is an
> > indexed property, but you don't have to use it or can use it just to
> > break ties.)
>
> > If you're fetching a large number of items and sorting so you can find
> > a contiguous subset, you're doing it wrong.
>
> > On Dec 19, 10:26 pm, ajaxer  wrote:
>
> > > obviously, if you have to page a data set more than 5 items which
> > > is not ordered by __key__,
>
> > > you may find that the __key__  is of no use, because the filtered data
> > > is ordered not by key.
> > > but by the fields value, and for that reason you need to loop query as
> > > you may like to do.
>
> > > but you will encounter a timeout exception before you really finished
> > > the action.
>
> > > On Dec 19, 8:26 am, Andy Freeman  wrote:
>
> > > > > > if the type of data is larger than 1 items, you need reindexing
> > > > > for this result.
> > > > > and recount each time for getting the proper item.
>
> > > > What kind of reindexing are you talking about.
>
> > > > Global reindexing is only required when you change the indices in
> > > > app.yaml.  It doesn't occur when you add more entities and or have big
> > > > entities.
>
> > > > Of course, when you change an entity, it gets reindexed, but that's a
> > > > constant cost.
>
> > > > Surely you're not planning to change all your entities fairly often,
> > > > are you?  (You're going to have problems if you try to maintain
> > > > sequence numbers and do insertions, but that doesn't scale anyway.)
>
> > > > > > it seems you have not encountered such a problem.
> > > > > on this situation, the indexes on the fields helps nothing for the
> > > > > bulk of  data you have to be sorted is really big.
>
> > > > Actually I have.  I've even done difference and at-least-#
> > > > (intersection and union are special cases - at-least-# also handles
> > > > majority), at-most-# (binary xor is the only common case that I came
> > > > up with), and combinations thereof on paged queries.
>
> > > > Yes, I know that offset is limited to 1000 but that's irrelevant
> > > > because the paging scheme under discussion doesn't use offset.  It
> > > > keeps track of where it is using __key__ and indexed data values.
>
> > > > On Dec 16, 7:56 pm, ajaxer  wrote:
>
> > > > > of course the time is related to the type data you are fetching by one
> > > > > query.
>
> > > > > if the type of data is larger than 1 items, you need reindexing
> > > > > for this result.
> > > > > and recount each time for getting the proper item.
>
> > > > > it seems you have not encountered such a problem.
> > > > > on this situation, the indexes on the fields helps nothing for the
> > > > > bulk of  data you have to be sorted is really big.
>
> > > > > On Dec 17, 12:20 am, Andy Freeman  wrote:
>
> > > > > > > it still can result in timout if the data is really big
>
> > > > > > How so?  If you don't request "too many" items with a page query, it
> > > > > > won't time out.  You will run into runtime.DeadlineExceededErrors if
> > > > > > you try to use too many page queries for a given request, but 
>
> > > > > > > of no much use to most of us if we really have big data to sort 
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > page.
>
> > > > > > You do know that the sorting for the page queries is done with the
> > > > > > indexing and not user code, right?  Query time is independent of the
> > > > > > total amount of data and depends only on the size of the result set.
> > > > > > (Indexing time is constant per inserted/updated entity.)
>
> > > > > > On Dec 16, 12:13 am, ajaxer  wrote:
>
> > > > > > > it is too complicated for most of us.
> > > > > > > and it still can result in timout if the data is really big
>
> > > > > > > of no much use to most of us if we really have big data to sort 
> > > > > > > and
> > 

[google-appengine] Re: why make adding a domain so difficult?

2009-12-21 Thread Gerard Mason
Yeah, I had a good gripe about this back in October (http://
groups.google.com/group/google-appengine/browse_thread/thread/
26eaaad8610842c8/508ab7affc01?lnk=gst&q=gerard
+mason#508ab7affc01). The documentation isn't very clear and whole
process could be much simpler. It looks like there's a rogue marketer
loose amongst the Google engineers, who's intent on using App Engine
to boost usage of Google Apps.

If you have ten different applications, which you want to host on ten
different domains, then you end up creating ten different Google
accounts and installing Google Apps for ten different domains. In a
way it's completely ridiculous but, hey, at least it ensures that the
administrative emails don't get mixed up!


On Dec 20, 10:42 pm, Locke  wrote:
> If I own the appid "appid" and the domin "domian.com" and I want to
> usewww.domain.comwith appid.appspot.com, then why the heck can't I
> simply prove my ownership by setting the CNAME appid-
> owner.www.domain.comthen pointingwww.domin.comto ghs.google.com?
>
> Why make me jump through all the hoops with Google Apps, a service I
> have no intention of using?
>
> KISS!
>
> /me sees "Sorry, you've reached a login page for a domain that isn't
> using Google Apps" again and bangs his head against the keyboard
> nmsxzdwccfdxcsfsddxcsfvxfvdxcv

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[google-appengine] Re: Lost app-id after activating my account with Google Apps

2009-12-21 Thread Nickolas Daskalou
You've tried both:

https://appengine.google.com/

and

https://appengine.google.com/a/mydomain.com

?


On Dec 19, 6:49 am, FriesenPress  wrote:
> I've lost my app-id "friesen-press" in my App Engine account after I
> activated a Google Apps account using my App Engine account. I had to
> reactivate the account and after I was reactivated my existing app-id
> is missing.
>
> I would really like to get "friesen-press" back since it's the closest
> name I could get that represented our domain name "friesenpress.com"
>
> If anyone can help it would be much appreciated - I've already linked
> up my Apps account to the now missing app-id.
>
> -will

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