Re: [google-appengine] One problem in catching webpage through google app engine

2010-12-19 Thread 风笑雪
What kind of cache do you use?

Memcache is cross instance, while app caching isn't.

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On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 2:52 PM, Jimmy  wrote:

> Hi, I want use google app engine to catch 15 webpages. My program is
> correct on my PC. It's means the program can catch 15 pages.
> But when I upload to google app engine, the program catch pages
> randomly. The program can not catch 15 pages correctly through google
> app engine.
> I want to know why this problem happen. And thanks for your reply.
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[google-appengine] One problem in catching webpage through google app engine

2010-12-19 Thread Jimmy
Hi, I want use google app engine to catch 15 webpages. My program is
correct on my PC. It's means the program can catch 15 pages.
But when I upload to google app engine, the program catch pages
randomly. The program can not catch 15 pages correctly through google
app engine.
I want to know why this problem happen. And thanks for your reply.

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Re: [google-appengine] Session User

2010-12-19 Thread Sarfaraz
Hi Wasfi,

Use gaesessions. I am using this library and its very lightweight and
robust. and can be used with webApps framework.

it can be configured to use cookies, memcache and the datastore.

read the advantages here : https://github.com/dound/gae-sessions

and then follow the directions to install it,

Installation is very simple and requires < a minute to get started .

After that when the user logs in, you can store the users id or key in the
session

session['uid'] = value


and in the subsequent classes or main handler you can check if the
session['uid'] has a value.

if not then the user is not logged in, and you redirect her to the login
page.

hope this helps :)




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On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 6:57 PM, Mohamed Wasfi wrote:

> I am developing an app where I don't want to force the users to use
> google authentication or openID but just sign in with their basic e-
> mail addresses. I will create the login and logout pages myself. Can I
> get a suggestion on how to keep track of the current user in the
> session like what "user = users.get_current_user()" does. Maybe use
> memcache?
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Re: [google-appengine] Re: Appengine's Turkey problem

2010-12-19 Thread Ufuk Kayserilioglu
Robert,

You are right, and that is exactly the reason why GAE is blocked right now.
I am afraid Kaan is a little behind the times with the YouTube ban, which
has since been lifted. The most recent ban, that also affects one of the IP
addresses that ghs.google.com resolves to, is related to a copyright
violation by a site running on GAE or Blogger. For people who are interested
(and can read Turkish), you can find a copy of the court order here:
http://imgur.com/gYzPl.jpg . The IP address 74.125.43.121 is clearly
visible.

Kaan,

Turkish authorities have reverted to blocking IP address for good now. I
don't think they will change that soon, since they have seen DNS blocking
does not work as they want (too easy to circumvent). About your reachability
problem, I am afraid there is hardly anything Google can do about it. I know
it is frustrating (I have an app or two on GAE as well) but as others have
said there are ways around it:

   1. You can go the reverse proxy route. Others have suggested (I am afraid
   I don't remember who) on this very mailing list, to use a small Linux VPS
   instance on RackSpace to setup a reverse proxy for your site. It seems the
   ping times from there to GAE are very low and the cost is only around $10 a
   month. I already had some Windows services hosted on an EC2 instance on AWS
   and set up ARR on the IIS7 server to do the reverse proxy in about 10
   minutes, and haven't looked back.
   2. I came upon an alternative just the other day. It appears that if you
   set your DNS records to point to one of alternate the IP addresses of
   ghs.google.com, you won't have any problems. (source:
   http://www.burcakcubukcu.com/2010/12/bloggerda-bulunan-alan-adl-siteme.html)
   Now, I haven't tried this myself, but I presume it would work for GAE as
   well. I suggest you setup an A record for yourself such as "
   redirect.example.com" with the IP address contained in the linked article
   and CNAME you primary site (let's say "www.example.com" to "
   redirect.example.com"). If, and, hopefully, when, the ban is lifted, you
   can change the "redirect.example.com" from an A record to a CNAME record
   that points to "ghs.google.com" and you will be all set. YMMV, though.

Best,

Ufuk

On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 12:20 AM, Robert Kluin wrote:

> So what happens when they find an app hosted on App Engine they don't
> like and block that?
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 14:57, Kaan Soral  wrote:
> > Actually Turkey doesn't block google, they block Youtube IP's, so the
> > problem is probebly caused by shared IP's.
> >
> > So in my opinion the problem can be solved if Google uses seperate
> > IP's for components.
> >
> > And for government blocking, they normally block domain names rather
> > than IP's but for some reason they only block Youtube IP's because
> > people just enter the site using seperate DNS etc.
> >
> > On Dec 17, 2:29 am, Tim Hoffman  wrote:
> >> Hi
> >>
> >> I don't really believe it is solvable by google.
> >>
> >> If they add a new pool of addresses for appengine, and some apps turn up
> on
> >> appengine that
> >> any particular government doesn't like, they will block access to that
> range
> >> and you are
> >> back in the same situation.
> >>
> >> All anyone can do is educate and lobby their government.
> >>
> >> Rgds
> >>
> >> Tim Hoffman
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Re: [google-appengine] re: from google.appengine.ext.webapp import template

2010-12-19 Thread Sarfaraz
dear Martin
I am also using 1.4. and it seems to be working fine with django
what does the trace tell you?
regards
On Dec 19, 2010 9:13 AM, "Martin Webb"  wrote:
> hi all...
> Since we have moved to 1.4 - ive not updated my local dev pc yet - now i
deploy
> my app - it dosnt work - the includes fail in all my modules for:
>
> from google.appengine.ext.webapp import template
>
>
>
> i have tracked it down to the webb django template helper - please dont
tell me
> this has been removed from 1.4 - can i still use django - or do i need to
redo
> all my templates using a new templater?
>
>
> Regards
>
>
> Martin Webb
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[google-appengine] Session User

2010-12-19 Thread Mohamed Wasfi
I am developing an app where I don't want to force the users to use
google authentication or openID but just sign in with their basic e-
mail addresses. I will create the login and logout pages myself. Can I
get a suggestion on how to keep track of the current user in the
session like what "user = users.get_current_user()" does. Maybe use
memcache?

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[google-appengine] NoClassDefFoundError even though the jar is in WEB-INF/lib

2010-12-19 Thread madhu
Hi,
I'm facing a peculiar issue. One of my JSPs uses
javax.servlet.jsp.jstl.fmt.LocaleSupport.getLocalizedMessage to get
localized message from resource bundles. I have copied the jakarta-
taglibs-standard-1.1.2.jar and jakarta-taglibs-jstl-1.1.2.jar into WEB-
INF/lib directory. On my local SDK the application works just fine.
But when I deploy it on GAE it gives out the following error.

java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/apache/taglibs/standard/tag/common/
fmt/BundleSupport
at
javax.servlet.jsp.jstl.fmt.LocaleSupport.getLocalizedMessage(LocaleSupport.java:
143)
at
javax.servlet.jsp.jstl.fmt.LocaleSupport.getLocalizedMessage(LocaleSupport.java:
63)
at
org.apache.jsp.templates.default_.LoginContent_jsp._jspService(LoginContent_jsp.java:
547)

This happens on both 1.3.8 and 1.4.0 SDKs. Any clues on what is
happening?

Thanks,
  - Madhu

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[google-appengine] Re: Memcache broken with Always On?

2010-12-19 Thread Tom Phillips
Through trial and error, I figured out that I was using it wrong. With
the JCache API, you have to make sure that you "create" and register
the cache once on each GAE instance (JVM) before you can just do a
getCache(String cachename) on it within that JVM.

So even in code that only reads from the cache, you need to make sure
the full cache initialization is performed or has already been done
somewhere in that JVM instance. For example:

cache = CacheManager.getInstance().getCache("testcache");
if (cache == null) {
  cache = CacheManager.getInstance().getCacheFactory()
.createCache(Collections.emptyMap()); //Or whatever
properties are required
  CacheManager.getInstance().registerCache("testcache", cache);
}

This is the same code you use to create and register the global cache
in the first place. For new instances, it appears to just create the
required link to the existing global cache. Makes sense to me now
since you don't know which instance or reader/writer code will be hit
the first time a cache comes into play.

After invoking the code above in my readers, I now see the cache and
entries in it being shared globally.

Thanks,
Tom

On Dec 15, 10:42 pm, Tom Phillips  wrote:
> I posted on this this in the java forum, but no traction there and I
> suspect it's not java specific.
>
> Memcache entries seem to be being scoped to an instance, not global.
> After a cache entry is made, it can be retrieved fine for any request
> that goes to that same instance. Any request to one of the other
> instances never finds the entry in the cache.
>
> Bug in Always On? Bug in 1.4.0? Design intent?
>
> Thanks,
> Tom

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[google-appengine] Re: Problem with ReferenceProperty

2010-12-19 Thread Serega.Sheypak
Please give me sample, I would like to see it. I don't know how to
google topic you've described (don't understand which  key words use
for search).

On Dec 6, 10:43 pm, Robert Smart 
wrote:
> Normally one should avoid using ReferenceProperty. Best to build a
> key_name from data in the record, or allocate_ids and keep the
> allocated ids in the database (in its parent or in the some other
> record you're bound to use like the record of user data). Then you can
> build the key whenever you need and (importantly) you can build the
> key before the record is stored and use that for various purposes
> (like parenting) without having to have special cases for when the
> record has/hasn't been written yet.

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[google-appengine] Re: from google.appengine.ext.webapp import template

2010-12-19 Thread Niklasro
Hello
The templates should work like before.
I too had this failure with importing template when upgrading to SDK
1.4 and solved it going through the error message seeing
it originated from some third party library I had added myself to my
project.
I removed that library and again things worked.

If you post or more closely investigate the error log it may show that
your
problem/solution is the result of some library conflict.

I hope some of this info can give you an idea how to deploy a working
version.

Best regards,
Niklas R

On Dec 19, 6:13 am, Martin Webb  wrote:
> hi all...
> Since we have moved to 1.4 - ive not updated my local dev pc yet - now i 
> deploy
> my app - it dosnt work -  the includes fail in all my modules for:
>
> from google.appengine.ext.webapp import template
>
> i have tracked it down to the webb django template helper - please dont tell 
> me
> this has been removed from 1.4 - can i still use django - or do i need to redo
> all my templates using a new templater?
>
> Regards
>
> Martin Webb
>
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Re: [google-appengine] Getting my GAE site indexed on Google

2010-12-19 Thread Matt H
No, that's why you follow these instructions. 

http://www.ozdroid.com/#!BLOG/2010/10/12/How_to_Make_Google_AppEngine_Applications_Ajax_Crawlable
 

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[google-appengine] doubt about TOS regarding betting related app

2010-12-19 Thread jose antonio lorenzo
I want to make an application related to gambling and I am not sure if it 
would break the terms of service or not. In principle, the TOS prohibit 
gambling content (letter f of "Prohibited content" under "Google AppEngine 
Program Policies"). The application would be similar to a blog on sports 
betting, with tips and advice for people who enjoy betting in sports 
competitions. Users will not be able to make bets using my application, but 
they would receive explicit advise on which bets are more profitable than 
others. Would that break the terms of service? I am thinking of GAE to 
develop the application but I am not sure if it could be rejected by Google, 
because clearly it is not an app that enables gambling but it will help 
bettors in their decissions. Any clue? Thank you very much.

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Re: [google-appengine] Getting my GAE site indexed on Google

2010-12-19 Thread Jeff Schwartz
Text rendered by widget can not be seen by crawler as it is only rendered on
the client so use straight html instead.

On Nov 26, 2010 6:10 PM, "CedarLeaf"  wrote:

Does any one have any pointers on getting my site indexed on Google?
My site (http://www.cedarleafmusic.com) is a GAE/GWT site for tracking
music artists and albums.

Since my site is a dynamic GAE web application, it only has one html
page, but I have added meta tags, submitted it to Google and submitted
a sitemap to Google Web Master tools.

On the anonymous page prior to login, the static paragraphs are an
HTML widget added to a vertical panel.  Does anyone know if text in
widgets can be read by Google's bot or if I would be better off adding
text directly to the site's HTML page?  Any help would be appreciated.

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[google-appengine] Re: Getting my GAE site indexed on Google

2010-12-19 Thread brucko
> Does any one have any pointers on getting my site indexed on Google?

http://www.ozdroid.com/#!BLOG/2010/10/12/How_to_Make_Google_AppEngine_Applications_Ajax_Crawlable

My site is GWT/GAE based as well and the method I use as detailed
above seems to be working well now.

Unfortunately you will have to pay for "Always On" to get it to work
until the URLFetch timeout is lengthened - but it does work and you
get the added bonus of faster startups with Always On.

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Re: [google-appengine] Re: my app has been "disabled"

2010-12-19 Thread Jorge Guberte
If that's the case, then the app i'm developing will be shut for sure,
because it extends the Google Contacts platform, making use of the API
Google provides.
Makes no sense, right?

2010/12/19 Philip 

> There is no way that the app was disabled because Google fears
> competition. I'm currently developing a google news like service on
> app engine and I got access to the matcher api and prediction api
> without any problems even though I have told explicitly that I am
> doing this. I also got always help from Googlers like Ikai in the IRC
> channel.
>
> Besides, I'm pretty sure that it would be *highly* risky for Google to
> disable apps that are competing with their own services. They would
> abuse their online monopoly and this could result in astronomically
> huge judicial punishment.
>
> On Dec 18, 8:56 am, Nickolas Daskalou  wrote:
> > It may have been disabled because it competes with Google's URL
> > shortening offering (http://goo.gl/).
> >
> > Nick
> >
> > On 18/12/2010, at 1:21 PM, vrypan  wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Hi. I've been running my URL shortener, urlborg.com, on appengine
> > > since 2008. Suddenly, yesterday, the app was marked as DISABLED by
> > > google, and no one can access it. How do I get in contact with
> > > someone that can explain what's going on? I feel really bad for the
> > > users that relied on my service.
> >
> > > I really, really like AppEngine, I mean, if you are offering a
> > > hosting environment, and people are paying for it, you can't just
> > > switch off an account, without a warning, or a notice or something...
> >
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[google-appengine] Re: my app has been "disabled"

2010-12-19 Thread Philip
There is no way that the app was disabled because Google fears
competition. I'm currently developing a google news like service on
app engine and I got access to the matcher api and prediction api
without any problems even though I have told explicitly that I am
doing this. I also got always help from Googlers like Ikai in the IRC
channel.

Besides, I'm pretty sure that it would be *highly* risky for Google to
disable apps that are competing with their own services. They would
abuse their online monopoly and this could result in astronomically
huge judicial punishment.

On Dec 18, 8:56 am, Nickolas Daskalou  wrote:
> It may have been disabled because it competes with Google's URL  
> shortening offering (http://goo.gl/).
>
> Nick
>
> On 18/12/2010, at 1:21 PM, vrypan  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hi. I've been running my URL shortener, urlborg.com, on appengine  
> > since 2008. Suddenly, yesterday, the app was marked as DISABLED by  
> > google, and no one can access it. How do I get in contact with  
> > someone that can explain what's going on? I feel really bad for the  
> > users that relied on my service.
>
> > I really, really like AppEngine, I mean, if you are offering a  
> > hosting environment, and people are paying for it, you can't just  
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[google-appengine] Re: my app has been "disabled"

2010-12-19 Thread ajaxer
the most attractive feature of  google's appengine is free to start.

but when your project becomes large, you may found a better platform to 
deploy your project.

i don't think google appengine can be used for large projects because there 
are so many dependencies on the app engine platform.

even the data is stored in a way very hard to manipulate(upload, download, 
delete, modify).

I would like to define the app engine as a new blog platform which users can 
do more customization on it.

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