[google-appengine] Deploy app to several appengines at the same time..?

[Dieter Krachtus]

Hi,

For different testing purposes I want to deploy the same app to 3
different appengines and make the new version the default version. So
far I simply typed everything on the command line 3 times. I haven't
given it much thought so far but I guess there is a more elegant
approach to automate this?

Cheers,
Dieter

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[google-appengine] Re: GAE/J And Task Queue Exceptions

[Patrick Twohig]

Whoops.  I guess I'm a dumb ass and I forgot to read the docs fully:
http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/java/javadoc/com/google/appengine/api/taskqueue/TaskAlreadyExistsException.html

...oh it's been a long night

On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 11:13 PM, Patrick Twohig
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm using the task queue to write a task that will iterate over all
> entities of a certain kind in the datastore.  The task needs to perform an
> operation on each entity once, so I basically do a two-pass approach.  ON
> the first pass, I actually iterate the entities enqueueing a separate task
> for each entity.  Following that, the actual "work" gets executed for each
> entity.  I'm using named tasks to ensure that each entity is processed in
> its own sub-task once.  My question is, what happens when I try to enqueue
> two separate tasks with the same name to the same queue?  Do I end up with
> an exception or does it fail silently?  And before anybody says anything,
> yes, I do know that there's a chance that with named tasks it's possible
> that it can actually get enqueued twice.  The documentation leads me to
> believe that this is extremely rare and for this particular use case a hard
> guarantee is not necessary.
>
> Cheers,
> Patrick.
>
> --
> Patrick H. Twohig.
>
> Namazu Studios
> P.O. Box 34161
> San Diego, CA 92163-4161
>
>


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[google-appengine] GAE/J And Task Queue Exceptions

[Patrick Twohig]

Hi,

I'm using the task queue to write a task that will iterate over all entities
of a certain kind in the datastore.  The task needs to perform an operation
on each entity once, so I basically do a two-pass approach.  ON the first
pass, I actually iterate the entities enqueueing a separate task for each
entity.  Following that, the actual "work" gets executed for each entity.
 I'm using named tasks to ensure that each entity is processed in its own
sub-task once.  My question is, what happens when I try to enqueue two
separate tasks with the same name to the same queue?  Do I end up with an
exception or does it fail silently?  And before anybody says anything, yes,
I do know that there's a chance that with named tasks it's possible that it
can actually get enqueued twice.  The documentation leads me to believe that
this is extremely rare and for this particular use case a hard guarantee is
not necessary.

Cheers,
Patrick.

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[google-appengine] Re: my app has been "disabled"

[vrypan]

OK, mystery solved.

Ikai's emails contained the links that were used by spammers, and
GMail treated them as... spam :-) This is something that the support
team might have in mind for the future...

P.

On Dec 21, 7:53 am, vrypan  wrote:
> Ikai, thanks for stepping in, but I still can't find any emails from
> you in my inbox.
> Could you please resend whatever you have send me? (BTW, I just
> received an order receipt from AppEngine, so I'm sure I'm checking the
> right email)
>
> Thank you,
>
> Panayotis.
>
> On Dec 20, 11:08 pm, "Ikai Lan (Google)" 
> wrote:
>
> > I'm working with him off-list to resolve the issue.
>
> > In general, it's important to remember that as application developers, you
> > are responsible for the content that is posted to your application. If
> > objectionable content is reported that violates the terms of service,
> > someone from our team will usually email the developers. We expect a
> > response within 48 business hours. In most (99.99%) of cases, we will not
> > disable applications before notifying developers. We ask people requesting
> > takedowns for proof or, in cases of copyright violations, to follow the DMCA
> > takedown procedures as documented for all Google properties.
>
> > The type of situations where we'd take down a site while notifying a
> > developer at the same time would be, for instance, a site that hosts a worm
> > or exploits end user computer vulnerabilities.
>
> > --
> > Ikai Lan
> > Developer Programs Engineer, Google App Engine
> > Blogger:http://googleappengine.blogspot.com
> > Reddit:http://www.reddit.com/r/appengine
> > Twitter:http://twitter.com/app_engine
>
> > On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 12:18 PM, Maxim Veksler  wrote:
> > > +1
>
> > > On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 10:10 PM, Joshua Smith 
> > > wrote:
>
> > >> Thanks for posting this to the list.  His story was disconcerting, and
> > >> it's good to hear that he didn't respond to your emails.
>
> > >> -Joshua
>
> > >> On Dec 20, 2010, at 2:18 PM, Ikai Lan (Google) wrote:
>
> > >> Hi,
>
> > >> I sent you an email a week requesting a response. Please check your inbox
> > >> for emails from me addressed to the billing administrator of your
> > >> application (vrypan@). Because you didn't respond, I was forced to
> > >> disable your application.
>
> > >> Your application is in violation of our terms of service because it is
> > >> being targeted by spammers to shorten spam URLs. If we are reported
> > >> instances of these, we will contact the developers to:
>
> > >> 1. Remove the content
> > >> 2. Take aggressive measures to prevent spamming of their service
>
> > >> Our terms of service dictate that you are responsible for policing the
> > >> content of your application. If you are in violation, we will first 
> > >> notify
> > >> you and work with you before disabling your application. However, if we 
> > >> do
> > >> not receive a response, we will go ahead and disable the application.
>
> > >> Please work with me off mailing list to resolve the issue.
>
> > >> --
> > >> Ikai Lan
> > >> Developer Programs Engineer, Google App Engine
> > >> Blogger:http://googleappengine.blogspot.com
> > >> Reddit:http://www.reddit.com/r/appengine
> > >> Twitter:http://twitter.com/app_engine
>
> > >> On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Jorge Guberte 
> > >> wrote:
>
> > >>> If that's the case, then the app i'm developing will be shut for sure,
> > >>> because it extends the Google Contacts platform, making use of the API
> > >>> Google provides.
> > >>> Makes no sense, right?
>
> > >>> 2010/12/19 Philip 
>
> > >>> There is no way that the app was disabled because Google fears
> >  competition. I'm currently developing a google news like service on
> >  app engine and I got access to the matcher api and prediction api
> >  without any problems even though I have told explicitly that I am
> >  doing this. I also got always help from Googlers like Ikai in the IRC
> >  channel.
>
> >  Besides, I'm pretty sure that it would be *highly* risky for Google to
> >  disable apps that are competing with their own services. They would
> >  abuse their online monopoly and this could result in astronomically
> >  huge judicial punishment.
>
> >  On Dec 18, 8:56 am, Nickolas Daskalou  wrote:
> >  > It may have been disabled because it competes with Google's URL
> >  > shortening offering (http://goo.gl/).
>
> >  > Nick
>
> >  > On 18/12/2010, at 1:21 PM, vrypan  wrote:
>
> >  > > Hi. I've been running my URL shortener, urlborg.com, on appengine
> >  > > since 2008. Suddenly, yesterday, the app was marked as DISABLED by
> >  > > google, and no one can access it. How do I get in contact with
> >  > > someone that can explain what's going on? I feel really bad for the
>
> >  > > users that relied on my service.
>
> >  > > I really, really like AppEngine, I mean, if you are offering a
> >  > > hosting environment, and people are paying for it, you can't just
> 

[google-appengine] Re: -1L exception?

[Tim Hoffman]

With out a stack trace is pretty hard work work out.

T

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[google-appengine] -1L exception?

[ten_foot_ninja]

My app catches an exception with -1L as the description. Does anyone
know anything about this? It seems some what random, but typically
related to how much resources my call uses (the more resources, the
more likely this error is returned).
thanks

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[google-appengine] Re: App Engine cannot vacuum indexes - stuck in building state for weeks - need google help

[Alexander M]

Hi,

It would be great if someone from google could clear out the indexes
that have been stuck in "Building" state for a few weeks now. I am not
able to vacuum them out for some reason.

My application is "LingoLocus".

Thank you and kind regards
Alexander

On Dec 18, 12:26 am, Alexander M 
wrote:
> Sorry, I meant to say application: LingoLocus (romanceapp is a
> different one of my apps)
>
> regards
>
> On Dec 18, 12:20 am, Alexander M 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hi,
>
> > My app is romanceapp, and I hope that someone from google might be
> > able to have a look at the indexes to see why I cannot remove them.
>
> > They have been stuck in a "Building" state for more than a week, which
> > I believe was caused by the fact that I uploaded incorrect indexes and
> > then tried to vacuum them before they completed building. As a result
> > I have used all 200 indexes and have no room to make modifications to
> > my data structures.
>
> > I am hoping that someone from Google might be able to clear out these
> > stuck indexes from my application: romanceapp.
>
> > Kind Regards
> > Alexander

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[google-appengine] Re: my app has been "disabled"

[vrypan]

Ikai, thanks for stepping in, but I still can't find any emails from
you in my inbox.
Could you please resend whatever you have send me? (BTW, I just
received an order receipt from AppEngine, so I'm sure I'm checking the
right email)

Thank you,

Panayotis.

On Dec 20, 11:08 pm, "Ikai Lan (Google)" 
wrote:
> I'm working with him off-list to resolve the issue.
>
> In general, it's important to remember that as application developers, you
> are responsible for the content that is posted to your application. If
> objectionable content is reported that violates the terms of service,
> someone from our team will usually email the developers. We expect a
> response within 48 business hours. In most (99.99%) of cases, we will not
> disable applications before notifying developers. We ask people requesting
> takedowns for proof or, in cases of copyright violations, to follow the DMCA
> takedown procedures as documented for all Google properties.
>
> The type of situations where we'd take down a site while notifying a
> developer at the same time would be, for instance, a site that hosts a worm
> or exploits end user computer vulnerabilities.
>
> --
> Ikai Lan
> Developer Programs Engineer, Google App Engine
> Blogger:http://googleappengine.blogspot.com
> Reddit:http://www.reddit.com/r/appengine
> Twitter:http://twitter.com/app_engine
>
> On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 12:18 PM, Maxim Veksler  wrote:
> > +1
>
> > On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 10:10 PM, Joshua Smith 
> > wrote:
>
> >> Thanks for posting this to the list.  His story was disconcerting, and
> >> it's good to hear that he didn't respond to your emails.
>
> >> -Joshua
>
> >> On Dec 20, 2010, at 2:18 PM, Ikai Lan (Google) wrote:
>
> >> Hi,
>
> >> I sent you an email a week requesting a response. Please check your inbox
> >> for emails from me addressed to the billing administrator of your
> >> application (vrypan@). Because you didn't respond, I was forced to
> >> disable your application.
>
> >> Your application is in violation of our terms of service because it is
> >> being targeted by spammers to shorten spam URLs. If we are reported
> >> instances of these, we will contact the developers to:
>
> >> 1. Remove the content
> >> 2. Take aggressive measures to prevent spamming of their service
>
> >> Our terms of service dictate that you are responsible for policing the
> >> content of your application. If you are in violation, we will first notify
> >> you and work with you before disabling your application. However, if we do
> >> not receive a response, we will go ahead and disable the application.
>
> >> Please work with me off mailing list to resolve the issue.
>
> >> --
> >> Ikai Lan
> >> Developer Programs Engineer, Google App Engine
> >> Blogger:http://googleappengine.blogspot.com
> >> Reddit:http://www.reddit.com/r/appengine
> >> Twitter:http://twitter.com/app_engine
>
> >> On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Jorge Guberte 
> >> wrote:
>
> >>> If that's the case, then the app i'm developing will be shut for sure,
> >>> because it extends the Google Contacts platform, making use of the API
> >>> Google provides.
> >>> Makes no sense, right?
>
> >>> 2010/12/19 Philip 
>
> >>> There is no way that the app was disabled because Google fears
>  competition. I'm currently developing a google news like service on
>  app engine and I got access to the matcher api and prediction api
>  without any problems even though I have told explicitly that I am
>  doing this. I also got always help from Googlers like Ikai in the IRC
>  channel.
>
>  Besides, I'm pretty sure that it would be *highly* risky for Google to
>  disable apps that are competing with their own services. They would
>  abuse their online monopoly and this could result in astronomically
>  huge judicial punishment.
>
>  On Dec 18, 8:56 am, Nickolas Daskalou  wrote:
>  > It may have been disabled because it competes with Google's URL
>  > shortening offering (http://goo.gl/).
>
>  > Nick
>
>  > On 18/12/2010, at 1:21 PM, vrypan  wrote:
>
>  > > Hi. I've been running my URL shortener, urlborg.com, on appengine
>  > > since 2008. Suddenly, yesterday, the app was marked as DISABLED by
>  > > google, and no one can access it. How do I get in contact with
>  > > someone that can explain what's going on? I feel really bad for the
>
>  > > users that relied on my service.
>
>  > > I really, really like AppEngine, I mean, if you are offering a
>  > > hosting environment, and people are paying for it, you can't just
>  > > switch off an account, without a warning, or a notice or
>  something...
>
>  > > Panayotis
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[google-appengine] Re: GAE error - Try Again (503) An unexpected failure has occurred. Please try again.

[Chris K]

It started working again the next day, without any changes.  There
must have been a problem on the server.

 - Chris


On Dec 20, 11:00 am, Robert Kluin  wrote:
> Hi Chris,
>   If you are still having this issue, you might try passing the
> --no_precompilation flag to appcfg.py when you're trying to update.
>
> Robert
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 12:05, Chris K  wrote:
> > Hi,
>
> > I'm getting the 503 error when I try to deploy my app.
> > I deployed it months ago with no problems.
> > Since then, I bought a new laptop and transferred my files over, so
> > some settings or the local Python version may have changed.
> > I made a small change to the app today locally (changed some text).
> > It works locally.
> > When I deploy, I get this error:
>
> > 2010-12-18 08:56:38 Running command: "[u'C:\\Python25\\pythonw.exe', '-
> > u', 'C:\\Program Files\\Google\\google_appengine\\appcfg.py', '--
> > no_cookies', u'--email=chris.kok...@gmail.com', '--passin', 'update',
> > 'C:\\ExcludedFromBackups\\Google_App_Engine\\playa-time']"
> > Application: playa-time; version: 1.
> > Server: appengine.google.com.
> > Scanning files on local disk.
> > Initiating update.
> > 2010-12-18 08:56:46,312 WARNING appengine_rpc.py:405 ssl module not
> > found.
> > Without the ssl module, the identity of the remote host cannot be
> > verified, and
> > connections may NOT be secure. To fix this, please install the ssl
> > module from
> >http://pypi.python.org/pypi/ssl.
> > To learn more, seehttp://code.google.com/appengine/kb/general.html#rpcssl
> > .
> > Password for chris.kok...@gmail.com: Could not guess mimetype for
> > images/Thumbs.db.  Using application/octet-stream.
> > Cloning 4 static files.
> > Cloning 14 application files.
> > Uploading 1 files and blobs.
> > Uploaded 1 files and blobs
> > Precompilation starting.
> > Rolling back the update.
> > Error 503: --- begin server output ---
>
> > Try Again (503)
> > An unexpected failure has occurred. Please try again.
> > --- end server output ---
> > 2010-12-18 08:57:45 (Process exited with code 1)
>
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[google-appengine] Re: Help desk app

[Julian Namaro]

Hi Richard,

Check out Rietveld, it is open source and could be a good base for
building your project:
http://code.google.com/appengine/articles/rietveld.html


On Dec 21, 12:47 am, Richard  wrote:
> I am looking for something simple I can customize to integrate with our
> existing business processes. The business is essentially negotiating
> contracts with clients and then managing the projects with contractors.

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[google-appengine] Re: Billing for additional RAM

[Norlesh]

Hi Kash,
 I have no idea about what the charge would be - only thing I found to
suggest that it could be possible in the future was something eluded
to in the last post of 
http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=1646
on 13 Dec where a googler mentioned checking out the 'background
servers feature' when its released in response to someone asking about
a memory intensive use case (you know as much as I do about when that
release is but its on the road map).
 -r Shane

On Dec 20, 11:51 pm, Mohamed kash  wrote:
> Hi All .. I wonder if anyone knows how google plans to charge for
> additional RAM usage. they never mentioned that
>
> /Kash

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Re: [google-appengine] Help desk app

[Plumo]

yes I'm looking for open source software to help run my business. I am 
willing to pay for it.

The online helpdesk services I looked at like mojo either lack needed 
features or have so many features they are confusing to use. So I want 
something open source which I can modify, rather than starting from scratch.

I have used the GAE mail API and you are right it is simple. But building an 
app on it that assigns an incoming email to the correct ticket, deals with 
encoding issues, attachments, etc - is non trivial.

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[google-appengine] Re: my app has been "disabled"

[nickmilon]

False alarm then.
+1 IKai for cleaning the mess although I was sure it was something
like this.


On Dec 20, 11:08 pm, "Ikai Lan (Google)" 
wrote:
> I'm working with him off-list to resolve the issue.
>
> In general, it's important to remember that as application developers, you
> are responsible for the content that is posted to your application. If
> objectionable content is reported that violates the terms of service,
> someone from our team will usually email the developers. We expect a
> response within 48 business hours. In most (99.99%) of cases, we will not
> disable applications before notifying developers. We ask people requesting
> takedowns for proof or, in cases of copyright violations, to follow the DMCA
> takedown procedures as documented for all Google properties.
>
> The type of situations where we'd take down a site while notifying a
> developer at the same time would be, for instance, a site that hosts a worm
> or exploits end user computer vulnerabilities.
>
> --
> Ikai Lan
> Developer Programs Engineer, Google App Engine
> Blogger:http://googleappengine.blogspot.com
> Reddit:http://www.reddit.com/r/appengine
> Twitter:http://twitter.com/app_engine
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 12:18 PM, Maxim Veksler  wrote:
> > +1
>
> > On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 10:10 PM, Joshua Smith 
> > wrote:
>
> >> Thanks for posting this to the list.  His story was disconcerting, and
> >> it's good to hear that he didn't respond to your emails.
>
> >> -Joshua
>
> >> On Dec 20, 2010, at 2:18 PM, Ikai Lan (Google) wrote:
>
> >> Hi,
>
> >> I sent you an email a week requesting a response. Please check your inbox
> >> for emails from me addressed to the billing administrator of your
> >> application (vrypan@). Because you didn't respond, I was forced to
> >> disable your application.
>
> >> Your application is in violation of our terms of service because it is
> >> being targeted by spammers to shorten spam URLs. If we are reported
> >> instances of these, we will contact the developers to:
>
> >> 1. Remove the content
> >> 2. Take aggressive measures to prevent spamming of their service
>
> >> Our terms of service dictate that you are responsible for policing the
> >> content of your application. If you are in violation, we will first notify
> >> you and work with you before disabling your application. However, if we do
> >> not receive a response, we will go ahead and disable the application.
>
> >> Please work with me off mailing list to resolve the issue.
>
> >> --
> >> Ikai Lan
> >> Developer Programs Engineer, Google App Engine
> >> Blogger:http://googleappengine.blogspot.com
> >> Reddit:http://www.reddit.com/r/appengine
> >> Twitter:http://twitter.com/app_engine
>
> >> On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Jorge Guberte 
> >> wrote:
>
> >>> If that's the case, then the app i'm developing will be shut for sure,
> >>> because it extends the Google Contacts platform, making use of the API
> >>> Google provides.
> >>> Makes no sense, right?
>
> >>> 2010/12/19 Philip 
>
> >>> There is no way that the app was disabled because Google fears
>  competition. I'm currently developing a google news like service on
>  app engine and I got access to the matcher api and prediction api
>  without any problems even though I have told explicitly that I am
>  doing this. I also got always help from Googlers like Ikai in the IRC
>  channel.
>
>  Besides, I'm pretty sure that it would be *highly* risky for Google to
>  disable apps that are competing with their own services. They would
>  abuse their online monopoly and this could result in astronomically
>  huge judicial punishment.
>
>  On Dec 18, 8:56 am, Nickolas Daskalou  wrote:
>  > It may have been disabled because it competes with Google's URL
>  > shortening offering (http://goo.gl/).
>
>  > Nick
>
>  > On 18/12/2010, at 1:21 PM, vrypan  wrote:
>
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>  > > google, and no one can access it. How do I get in contact with
>  > > someone that can explain what's going on? I feel really bad for the
>
>  > > users that relied on my service.
>
>  > > I really, really like AppEngine, I mean, if you are offering a
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Re: [google-appengine] gql query over an n:m relationship

[Robert Kluin]

You would need to denormalize your data in some way to do that.  The
datastore does not support that type of JOIN.  Do not think in terms
of SQL while you are developing your data-structures.

A little bit of useful info about how the datastore works:
  http://code.google.com/appengine/articles/datastore/overview.html



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On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 16:25, ping  wrote:
> I have an entity A which is related to an entity B through a n:m
> relationship.
>
> class A {
> ...
> @Persistent
> private Set B_entities;
> ...
> }
>
> class B {
> ...
> @Persistent
> private Group group;
>
> @Persistent
> private Set A_entities;
> ...
> }
>
> Now i want to write a query which gives me all the entities A of a
> specific group.
> I can do this simply in java, but i'm wondering how this can be done
> with GQL
>
> so something like this: select * from A where B.group == group
>
> can anyone help me out?
> greets
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[google-appengine] "Create Application" failed in middle of processing

[Oboero Admin]

After checking the availability of an appname, I clicked the "Create 
Application" and it failed in the middle of processing my request.  When I 
Check Availability now, it says that the appid is no longer available.  I 
have a feeling that my request is in some kind of "stuck" state.  Can 
someone at Google help me get it unstuck?  It happened around 5:20pm EST 
(Dec 20) and the appid is myjo*a.

Thanks!

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Re: [google-appengine] doubt about TOS regarding betting related app

[jose antonio lorenzo]

Robert, Ikai, thank you for your answers. The blackjack example is very 
illustrative, but what I want to do is half-way the montecarlo-simulation 
and the explicit advise. So I think the best thing to do is to contact the 
legal department of google and see if they may clarify things a bit more. 
Again, thank you very much for your answers. 

EquatorLounge, thank you for your offering but at this very moment I do not 
need programmers, perhaps in the future.

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Re: [google-appengine] get key of a datastore entity

[Ikai Lan (Google)]

Can't you just call the accessor of Member after it is saved?

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On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 3:20 PM, ping  wrote:

> Hello,
> I have the following code:
>
> try {
>Extent extent = pm.getExtent(Member.class,
> false);
>for (Member m : extent) {
>m.addPurchase(p);
>}
>}
>extent.closeAll();
> }
>
> So... with the line m.addPurchase(p) the p Object is automatically
> saved to the datastore. How can i get the generated unique key for
> this object from the datastore?
>
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Re: [google-appengine] doubt about TOS regarding betting related app

[Ikai Lan (Google)]

Warning: I am not a lawyer.

This would probably *not* be a violation of our terms of service, however,
you should absolutely speak to an attorney first because this is a huge gray
area. For instance, if you were to run a Monte Carlo blackjack simulation on
App Engine, that would most likely be okay, though it would help you be a
better gambler, but explicit advice on sports betting may be prohibited.

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On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Robert Kluin wrote:

> You should ask unrelated questions in separate emails.
>
> If you would like to run and App Engine app on your own systems,  look
> at TyphoonAE and/or AppScale.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 17:30, Savvy on EquatorLounge
>  wrote:
> > sounds interesting but why dont u email Google App Engine directly ?
> > btw, i hope you can answer that mysterious question of mine:
> > I want to build a website using the django framework on the google app
> > engine on MY own server..  I know GAE provides space for free with
> datastore
> > and django and everything but i WANT TO USE MY SERVER just in case lol oh
> > just how these letters in capitals are creepy ! Is it not as simple as
> > uploading a the Joomla CMS and getting everythin' up n running in minutes
> > ? Is there any possibility for this to happen?
> > For your gambling application, if you need a python programmer, a junior
> > one, you're more than welcome to contact me, id be glad to participate =]
> > but that does not prevent you from starting the requirements
> specifications
> > and the application design.. as you know, choice of programming language
> > comes nearly in the end !
> > On 20 December 2010 02:04, jose antonio lorenzo 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> I want to make an application related to gambling and I am not sure if
> it
> >> would break the terms of service or not. In principle, the TOS prohibit
> >> gambling content (letter f of "Prohibited content" under "Google
> AppEngine
> >> Program Policies"). The application would be similar to a blog on sports
> >> betting, with tips and advice for people who enjoy betting in sports
> >> competitions. Users will not be able to make bets using my application,
> but
> >> they would receive explicit advise on which bets are more profitable
> than
> >> others. Would that break the terms of service? I am thinking of GAE to
> >> develop the application but I am not sure if it could be rejected by
> Google,
> >> because clearly it is not an app that enables gambling but it will help
> >> bettors in their decissions. Any clue? Thank you very much.
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[google-appengine] gql query over an n:m relationship

[ping]

I have an entity A which is related to an entity B through a n:m
relationship.

class A {
...
@Persistent
private Set B_entities;
...
}

class B {
...
@Persistent
private Group group;

@Persistent
private Set A_entities;
...
}

Now i want to write a query which gives me all the entities A of a
specific group.
I can do this simply in java, but i'm wondering how this can be done
with GQL

so something like this: select * from A where B.group == group

can anyone help me out?
greets

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Re: [google-appengine] Re: my app has been "disabled"

[Ikai Lan (Google)]

I'm working with him off-list to resolve the issue.

In general, it's important to remember that as application developers, you
are responsible for the content that is posted to your application. If
objectionable content is reported that violates the terms of service,
someone from our team will usually email the developers. We expect a
response within 48 business hours. In most (99.99%) of cases, we will not
disable applications before notifying developers. We ask people requesting
takedowns for proof or, in cases of copyright violations, to follow the DMCA
takedown procedures as documented for all Google properties.

The type of situations where we'd take down a site while notifying a
developer at the same time would be, for instance, a site that hosts a worm
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On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 12:18 PM, Maxim Veksler  wrote:

> +1
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 10:10 PM, Joshua Smith 
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for posting this to the list.  His story was disconcerting, and
>> it's good to hear that he didn't respond to your emails.
>>
>> -Joshua
>>
>> On Dec 20, 2010, at 2:18 PM, Ikai Lan (Google) wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I sent you an email a week requesting a response. Please check your inbox
>> for emails from me addressed to the billing administrator of your
>> application (vrypan@). Because you didn't respond, I was forced to
>> disable your application.
>>
>> Your application is in violation of our terms of service because it is
>> being targeted by spammers to shorten spam URLs. If we are reported
>> instances of these, we will contact the developers to:
>>
>> 1. Remove the content
>> 2. Take aggressive measures to prevent spamming of their service
>>
>> Our terms of service dictate that you are responsible for policing the
>> content of your application. If you are in violation, we will first notify
>> you and work with you before disabling your application. However, if we do
>> not receive a response, we will go ahead and disable the application.
>>
>> Please work with me off mailing list to resolve the issue.
>>
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>>
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Jorge Guberte wrote:
>>
>>> If that's the case, then the app i'm developing will be shut for sure,
>>> because it extends the Google Contacts platform, making use of the API
>>> Google provides.
>>> Makes no sense, right?
>>>
>>> 2010/12/19 Philip 
>>>
>>> There is no way that the app was disabled because Google fears
 competition. I'm currently developing a google news like service on
 app engine and I got access to the matcher api and prediction api
 without any problems even though I have told explicitly that I am
 doing this. I also got always help from Googlers like Ikai in the IRC
 channel.

 Besides, I'm pretty sure that it would be *highly* risky for Google to
 disable apps that are competing with their own services. They would
 abuse their online monopoly and this could result in astronomically
 huge judicial punishment.

 On Dec 18, 8:56 am, Nickolas Daskalou  wrote:
 > It may have been disabled because it competes with Google's URL
 > shortening offering (http://goo.gl/).
 >
 > Nick
 >
 > On 18/12/2010, at 1:21 PM, vrypan  wrote:
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 > > Hi. I've been running my URL shortener, urlborg.com, on appengine
 > > since 2008. Suddenly, yesterday, the app was marked as DISABLED by
 > > google, and no one can access it. How do I get in contact with
 > > someone that can explain what's going on? I feel really bad for the

 > > users that relied on my service.
 >
 > > I really, really like AppEngine, I mean, if you are offering a
 > > hosting environment, and people are paying for it, you can't just
 > > switch off an account, without a warning, or a notice or
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Re: [google-appengine] Help desk app

[Robert Kluin]

The mail API is pretty straight forward.  If you have existing stuff
you're trying to integrate with, take a look at it:
  http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/python/mail/

Or are you just asking for an open source app to run your business with?



Robert





On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 10:47, Richard  wrote:
> I am looking for something simple I can customize to integrate with our
> existing business processes. The business is essentially negotiating
> contracts with clients and then managing the projects with contractors.
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Re: [google-appengine] Images Python API: Two issues regarding PNG transparency

[A. Stevko]

Could it be this issue?
http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=4170




On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 5:43 AM, Tammo Freese wrote:

> Hi all,
>
>
> I currently try to use the Images Python API to scale images. While
> scaling works generally, there are two issues I'd love to know a way
> to work around:
>
> - If I resize and crop a PNG image having an 8 bit alpha channel:
>  Expected: Transparency is not affected by scale & crop.
>  Actual: The transparent parts are black afterwards.
>
> - If I resize and crop a PNG image having no alpha channel:
>  Expected: The resulting image has no alpha channel.
>  Actual: The resulting image has an alpha channel.
>
> For both issues, I tried to prevent these using the images.composite
> function, but could not find any work around: The PNG image I got in
> the first case always gets the transparent parts in black, and the PNG
> image in the second case always gets an alpha channel (even if the
> background color used in images.composite is opaque).
>
> Do you know whether there are any workarounds for these issues?
>
>
> Cheers,
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Re: [google-appengine] REST web service client in gae

[Robert Kluin]

Hi José,
  Yes, you can consume REST webservices using an App Engine app.
 http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/java/urlfetch/

  The Python gdata libs have been modified to use URLFetch on App
Engine, I suspect the Java libs have as well.


Robert






2010/12/20 José Miguel Bataller :
> Hi all,
>
> My situation is the following, I am able to run restful web services
> using the wink library for Java in the google appengine without any
> problem and  I am having problems when I try to go one step further,
> trying to consume remote restful web services with JSON responses from
> inside my restful web services.
>
> Is it possible to use a REST web service client to connect to 3rd
> party apps in google appengine?
>
> I have seen in the official page of Google: "WillItPlayInJava" that is
> not possible (http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/wiki/
> WillItPlayInJava).
>
> However, in that page, it says that the google appengine supports the
> Google Data client library.  I haven't tried this library, has anybody
> tried and can confirm that it works?
>
> How is possible that the google data client library is compatible with
> the appengine, which means that the appengine is able to establish
> http connections with remote servers and a restful web service client
> does not work when it is exactly the same?
>
> Thanks.
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Re: [google-appengine] I want to install Google App Engine on my web server !

[Ross M Karchner]

Though, it's worth saying, it will not be "as simple as Joomla" to run
Typhoon or Appscale on your own server.

On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Robert Kluin wrote:

> AppScale
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 15:35, Ravi Sharma  wrote:
> > is there anything for java?
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 6:40 PM, Barry Hunter 
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> >>
> >> http://code.google.com/p/typhoonae/
> >>
> >> On 19 December 2010 22:25, EquatorLounge 
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> >> > engine on MY own server..
> >> >
> >> > I know GAE provides space for free with datastore and django and
> >> > everything but i WANT TO USE MY SERVER just in case lol oh just how
> >> > these letters in capitals are creepy !
> >> >
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Re: [google-appengine] I want to install Google App Engine on my web server !

[Robert Kluin]

AppScale






On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 15:35, Ravi Sharma  wrote:
> is there anything for java?
>
> On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 6:40 PM, Barry Hunter 
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>>
>> http://code.google.com/p/typhoonae/
>>
>> On 19 December 2010 22:25, EquatorLounge  wrote:
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>> > engine on MY own server..
>> >
>> > I know GAE provides space for free with datastore and django and
>> > everything but i WANT TO USE MY SERVER just in case lol oh just how
>> > these letters in capitals are creepy !
>> >
>> > Is it not as simple as uploading a the Joomla CMS and getting
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Re: [google-appengine] I want to install Google App Engine on my web server !

[Ravi Sharma]

is there anything for java?

On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 6:40 PM, Barry Hunter wrote:

> http://code.google.com/p/typhoonae/
>
> On 19 December 2010 22:25, EquatorLounge  wrote:
> > I want to build a website using the django framework on the google app
> > engine on MY own server..
> >
> > I know GAE provides space for free with datastore and django and
> > everything but i WANT TO USE MY SERVER just in case lol oh just how
> > these letters in capitals are creepy !
> >
> > Is it not as simple as uploading a the Joomla CMS and getting
> > everythin' up n running in minutes ?
> >
> > Is there any possibility for this to happen?
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Re: [google-appengine] Re: my app has been "disabled"

[Maxim Veksler]

+1

On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 10:10 PM, Joshua Smith wrote:

> Thanks for posting this to the list.  His story was disconcerting, and it's
> good to hear that he didn't respond to your emails.
>
> -Joshua
>
> On Dec 20, 2010, at 2:18 PM, Ikai Lan (Google) wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I sent you an email a week requesting a response. Please check your inbox
> for emails from me addressed to the billing administrator of your
> application (vrypan@). Because you didn't respond, I was forced to disable
> your application.
>
> Your application is in violation of our terms of service because it is
> being targeted by spammers to shorten spam URLs. If we are reported
> instances of these, we will contact the developers to:
>
> 1. Remove the content
> 2. Take aggressive measures to prevent spamming of their service
>
> Our terms of service dictate that you are responsible for policing the
> content of your application. If you are in violation, we will first notify
> you and work with you before disabling your application. However, if we do
> not receive a response, we will go ahead and disable the application.
>
> Please work with me off mailing list to resolve the issue.
>
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> Twitter: http://twitter.com/app_engine
>
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Jorge Guberte wrote:
>
>> If that's the case, then the app i'm developing will be shut for sure,
>> because it extends the Google Contacts platform, making use of the API
>> Google provides.
>> Makes no sense, right?
>>
>> 2010/12/19 Philip 
>>
>> There is no way that the app was disabled because Google fears
>>> competition. I'm currently developing a google news like service on
>>> app engine and I got access to the matcher api and prediction api
>>> without any problems even though I have told explicitly that I am
>>> doing this. I also got always help from Googlers like Ikai in the IRC
>>> channel.
>>>
>>> Besides, I'm pretty sure that it would be *highly* risky for Google to
>>> disable apps that are competing with their own services. They would
>>> abuse their online monopoly and this could result in astronomically
>>> huge judicial punishment.
>>>
>>> On Dec 18, 8:56 am, Nickolas Daskalou  wrote:
>>> > It may have been disabled because it competes with Google's URL
>>> > shortening offering (http://goo.gl/).
>>> >
>>> > Nick
>>> >
>>> > On 18/12/2010, at 1:21 PM, vrypan  wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > > Hi. I've been running my URL shortener, urlborg.com, on appengine
>>> > > since 2008. Suddenly, yesterday, the app was marked as DISABLED by
>>> > > google, and no one can access it. How do I get in contact with
>>> > > someone that can explain what's going on? I feel really bad for the
>>> > > users that relied on my service.
>>> >
>>> > > I really, really like AppEngine, I mean, if you are offering a
>>> > > hosting environment, and people are paying for it, you can't just
>>> > > switch off an account, without a warning, or a notice or something...
>>> >
>>> > > Panayotis
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Re: [google-appengine] Re: my app has been "disabled"

[Joshua Smith]

Thanks for posting this to the list.  His story was disconcerting, and it's 
good to hear that he didn't respond to your emails.

-Joshua

On Dec 20, 2010, at 2:18 PM, Ikai Lan (Google) wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I sent you an email a week requesting a response. Please check your inbox for 
> emails from me addressed to the billing administrator of your application 
> (vrypan@). Because you didn't respond, I was forced to disable your 
> application.
> 
> Your application is in violation of our terms of service because it is being 
> targeted by spammers to shorten spam URLs. If we are reported instances of 
> these, we will contact the developers to:
> 
> 1. Remove the content
> 2. Take aggressive measures to prevent spamming of their service
> 
> Our terms of service dictate that you are responsible for policing the 
> content of your application. If you are in violation, we will first notify 
> you and work with you before disabling your application. However, if we do 
> not receive a response, we will go ahead and disable the application.
> 
> Please work with me off mailing list to resolve the issue.
> 
> --
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> Developer Programs Engineer, Google App Engine
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> Reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/appengine
> Twitter: http://twitter.com/app_engine
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Jorge Guberte  wrote:
> If that's the case, then the app i'm developing will be shut for sure, 
> because it extends the Google Contacts platform, making use of the API Google 
> provides.
> Makes no sense, right?
> 
> 2010/12/19 Philip 
> 
> There is no way that the app was disabled because Google fears
> competition. I'm currently developing a google news like service on
> app engine and I got access to the matcher api and prediction api
> without any problems even though I have told explicitly that I am
> doing this. I also got always help from Googlers like Ikai in the IRC
> channel.
> 
> Besides, I'm pretty sure that it would be *highly* risky for Google to
> disable apps that are competing with their own services. They would
> abuse their online monopoly and this could result in astronomically
> huge judicial punishment.
> 
> On Dec 18, 8:56 am, Nickolas Daskalou  wrote:
> > It may have been disabled because it competes with Google's URL  
> > shortening offering (http://goo.gl/).
> >
> > Nick
> >
> > On 18/12/2010, at 1:21 PM, vrypan  wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Hi. I've been running my URL shortener, urlborg.com, on appengine  
> > > since 2008. Suddenly, yesterday, the app was marked as DISABLED by  
> > > google, and no one can access it. How do I get in contact with  
> > > someone that can explain what's going on? I feel really bad for the  
> > > users that relied on my service.
> >
> > > I really, really like AppEngine, I mean, if you are offering a  
> > > hosting environment, and people are paying for it, you can't just  
> > > switch off an account, without a warning, or a notice or something...
> >
> > > Panayotis
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Re: [google-appengine] Re: my app has been "disabled"

[Ikai Lan (Google)]

Hi,

I sent you an email a week requesting a response. Please check your inbox
for emails from me addressed to the billing administrator of your
application (vrypan@). Because you didn't respond, I was forced to disable
your application.

Your application is in violation of our terms of service because it is being
targeted by spammers to shorten spam URLs. If we are reported instances of
these, we will contact the developers to:

1. Remove the content
2. Take aggressive measures to prevent spamming of their service

Our terms of service dictate that you are responsible for policing the
content of your application. If you are in violation, we will first notify
you and work with you before disabling your application. However, if we do
not receive a response, we will go ahead and disable the application.

Please work with me off mailing list to resolve the issue.

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On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Jorge Guberte wrote:

> If that's the case, then the app i'm developing will be shut for sure,
> because it extends the Google Contacts platform, making use of the API
> Google provides.
> Makes no sense, right?
>
> 2010/12/19 Philip 
>
> There is no way that the app was disabled because Google fears
>> competition. I'm currently developing a google news like service on
>> app engine and I got access to the matcher api and prediction api
>> without any problems even though I have told explicitly that I am
>> doing this. I also got always help from Googlers like Ikai in the IRC
>> channel.
>>
>> Besides, I'm pretty sure that it would be *highly* risky for Google to
>> disable apps that are competing with their own services. They would
>> abuse their online monopoly and this could result in astronomically
>> huge judicial punishment.
>>
>> On Dec 18, 8:56 am, Nickolas Daskalou  wrote:
>> > It may have been disabled because it competes with Google's URL
>> > shortening offering (http://goo.gl/).
>> >
>> > Nick
>> >
>> > On 18/12/2010, at 1:21 PM, vrypan  wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > > Hi. I've been running my URL shortener, urlborg.com, on appengine
>> > > since 2008. Suddenly, yesterday, the app was marked as DISABLED by
>> > > google, and no one can access it. How do I get in contact with
>> > > someone that can explain what's going on? I feel really bad for the
>> > > users that relied on my service.
>> >
>> > > I really, really like AppEngine, I mean, if you are offering a
>> > > hosting environment, and people are paying for it, you can't just
>> > > switch off an account, without a warning, or a notice or something...
>> >
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Re: [google-appengine] GAE error - Try Again (503) An unexpected failure has occurred. Please try again.

[Robert Kluin]

Hi Chris,
  If you are still having this issue, you might try passing the
--no_precompilation flag to appcfg.py when you're trying to update.


Robert






On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 12:05, Chris K  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm getting the 503 error when I try to deploy my app.
> I deployed it months ago with no problems.
> Since then, I bought a new laptop and transferred my files over, so
> some settings or the local Python version may have changed.
> I made a small change to the app today locally (changed some text).
> It works locally.
> When I deploy, I get this error:
>
> 2010-12-18 08:56:38 Running command: "[u'C:\\Python25\\pythonw.exe', '-
> u', 'C:\\Program Files\\Google\\google_appengine\\appcfg.py', '--
> no_cookies', u'--email=chris.kok...@gmail.com', '--passin', 'update',
> 'C:\\ExcludedFromBackups\\Google_App_Engine\\playa-time']"
> Application: playa-time; version: 1.
> Server: appengine.google.com.
> Scanning files on local disk.
> Initiating update.
> 2010-12-18 08:56:46,312 WARNING appengine_rpc.py:405 ssl module not
> found.
> Without the ssl module, the identity of the remote host cannot be
> verified, and
> connections may NOT be secure. To fix this, please install the ssl
> module from
> http://pypi.python.org/pypi/ssl .
> To learn more, see http://code.google.com/appengine/kb/general.html#rpcssl
> .
> Password for chris.kok...@gmail.com: Could not guess mimetype for
> images/Thumbs.db.  Using application/octet-stream.
> Cloning 4 static files.
> Cloning 14 application files.
> Uploading 1 files and blobs.
> Uploaded 1 files and blobs
> Precompilation starting.
> Rolling back the update.
> Error 503: --- begin server output ---
>
> Try Again (503)
> An unexpected failure has occurred. Please try again.
> --- end server output ---
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Re: [google-appengine] Datastore Admin is showing an error page

[Robert Kluin]

Does your app only allow logins from an Apps domain, and has it been
mapped to a custom domain?

I hit this issue a lot, once you've added a 'custom domain' you can no
longer access the app via the appspot.com URL -- phenomenally
frustrating.


Robert







On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 03:20, Praveen   wrote:
> Currently, when I click on my Datastore Admin option in my application I get
> this error
>
> Error: Server Error
>
> The server encountered an error and could not complete your request.
>
> If the problem persists, please report your problem and mention this error
> message and the query that caused it.
>
> I have added the
>
> builtins:
>
> - datastore_admin: on
>
> to my app.yaml
>
> If I deploy the same code on a different application, I am able to use the
> datastore admin option.
>
> What causes this issue? Can anyone help?
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Re: [google-appengine] how to fix this invalid syntax exception?

[Robert Kluin]

Production App Engine runs Python 2.5.  This is a good example of why
you should do your development on 2.5 too.

Try doing this instead:

  class Registry(dict):
  # your stuff
  Registry = singleton(Registry)




Robert





On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 12:03, retif  wrote:
> why this code raises : invalid syntax
> (main.py, line 15) ?
> problem is only on production server. dev_appserver works ok
>
> def main():
>
>   def singleton(cls):
>       instances = {}
>       def getinstance():
>           if cls not in instances:
>               instances[cls] = cls()
>           return instances[cls]
>       return getinstance
>
>   @singleton
>   class Registry(dict):
>       def set(self, key, value):
>           self[key] = value
>
> if __name__ == '__main__':
>  main()
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Re: [google-appengine] I want to install Google App Engine on my web server !

[Barry Hunter]

http://code.google.com/p/typhoonae/

On 19 December 2010 22:25, EquatorLounge  wrote:
> I want to build a website using the django framework on the google app
> engine on MY own server..
>
> I know GAE provides space for free with datastore and django and
> everything but i WANT TO USE MY SERVER just in case lol oh just how
> these letters in capitals are creepy !
>
> Is it not as simple as uploading a the Joomla CMS and getting
> everythin' up n running in minutes ?
>
> Is there any possibility for this to happen?
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Re: [google-appengine] doubt about TOS regarding betting related app

[Robert Kluin]

You should ask unrelated questions in separate emails.

If you would like to run and App Engine app on your own systems,  look
at TyphoonAE and/or AppScale.






On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 17:30, Savvy on EquatorLounge
 wrote:
> sounds interesting but why dont u email Google App Engine directly ?
> btw, i hope you can answer that mysterious question of mine:
> I want to build a website using the django framework on the google app
> engine on MY own server..  I know GAE provides space for free with datastore
> and django and everything but i WANT TO USE MY SERVER just in case lol oh
> just how these letters in capitals are creepy ! Is it not as simple as
> uploading a the Joomla CMS and getting everythin' up n running in minutes
> ? Is there any possibility for this to happen?
> For your gambling application, if you need a python programmer, a junior
> one, you're more than welcome to contact me, id be glad to participate =]
> but that does not prevent you from starting the requirements specifications
> and the application design.. as you know, choice of programming language
> comes nearly in the end !
> On 20 December 2010 02:04, jose antonio lorenzo  wrote:
>>
>> I want to make an application related to gambling and I am not sure if it
>> would break the terms of service or not. In principle, the TOS prohibit
>> gambling content (letter f of "Prohibited content" under "Google AppEngine
>> Program Policies"). The application would be similar to a blog on sports
>> betting, with tips and advice for people who enjoy betting in sports
>> competitions. Users will not be able to make bets using my application, but
>> they would receive explicit advise on which bets are more profitable than
>> others. Would that break the terms of service? I am thinking of GAE to
>> develop the application but I am not sure if it could be rejected by Google,
>> because clearly it is not an app that enables gambling but it will help
>> bettors in their decissions. Any clue? Thank you very much.
>>
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Re: [google-appengine] doubt about TOS regarding betting related app

[Robert Kluin]

I'm sure if you email le...@google.com with your question they can
provide an answer for you.

Also, you should talk to an attorney; as I understand, stuff related
to gambling is regulated in some areas.  I have also heard that
regulations sometimes include restricting how you are allowed to
receive payments.  I've just read that stuff in popular-media -- I'm
not an attorney.









On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 17:04, jose antonio lorenzo  wrote:
> I want to make an application related to gambling and I am not sure if it
> would break the terms of service or not. In principle, the TOS prohibit
> gambling content (letter f of "Prohibited content" under "Google AppEngine
> Program Policies"). The application would be similar to a blog on sports
> betting, with tips and advice for people who enjoy betting in sports
> competitions. Users will not be able to make bets using my application, but
> they would receive explicit advise on which bets are more profitable than
> others. Would that break the terms of service? I am thinking of GAE to
> develop the application but I am not sure if it could be rejected by Google,
> because clearly it is not an app that enables gambling but it will help
> bettors in their decissions. Any clue? Thank you very much.
>
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Re: [google-appengine] how to fix this invalid syntax exception?

[Eli Jones]

Oh.. and the issue is that you can't do Class decorators this way in Python
2.5 (while you can do them in 2.6).  Just google around for "class
decorators" "python 2.5"  .. to see potential work-arounds.

On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 1:04 PM, Eli Jones  wrote:

> Make sure you are using the dev_appserver with python2.5
>
> This code will work fine in 2.6.. but it breaks in 2.5.. thus, once you get
> deployed to Appengine (which runs Python 2.5).. you will get the syntax
> error.
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 1:40 PM, retif  wrote:
>
>> why this code raises : invalid syntax
>> (main.py, line 15) ?
>> problem is only on production server. dev_appserver works ok
>>
>> def main():
>>
>>def singleton(cls):
>>instances = {}
>>def getinstance():
>>if cls not in instances:
>>instances[cls] = cls()
>>return instances[cls]
>>return getinstance
>>
>>@singleton
>>class Registry(dict):
>>def set(self, key, value):
>>self[key] = value
>>
>> if __name__ == '__main__':
>>  main()
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Re: [google-appengine] how to fix this invalid syntax exception?

[Eli Jones]

Make sure you are using the dev_appserver with python2.5

This code will work fine in 2.6.. but it breaks in 2.5.. thus, once you get
deployed to Appengine (which runs Python 2.5).. you will get the syntax
error.

On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 1:40 PM, retif  wrote:

> why this code raises : invalid syntax
> (main.py, line 15) ?
> problem is only on production server. dev_appserver works ok
>
> def main():
>
>def singleton(cls):
>instances = {}
>def getinstance():
>if cls not in instances:
>instances[cls] = cls()
>return instances[cls]
>return getinstance
>
>@singleton
>class Registry(dict):
>def set(self, key, value):
>self[key] = value
>
> if __name__ == '__main__':
>  main()
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Re: [google-appengine] doubt about TOS regarding betting related app

[Savvy on EquatorLounge]

sounds interesting but why dont u email Google App Engine directly ?

btw, i hope you can answer that mysterious question of mine:
I want to build a website using the django framework on the google app
engine on MY own server..  I know GAE provides space for free with datastore
and django and everything but i WANT TO USE MY SERVER just in case lol oh
just how these letters in capitals are creepy ! Is it not as simple as
uploading a the Joomla CMS and getting everythin' up n running in minutes
? Is there any possibility for this to happen?

For your gambling application, if you need a python programmer, a junior
one, you're more than welcome to contact me, id be glad to participate =]

but that does not prevent you from starting the requirements specifications
and the application design.. as you know, choice of programming language
comes nearly in the end !

On 20 December 2010 02:04, jose antonio lorenzo  wrote:

> I want to make an application related to gambling and I am not sure if it
> would break the terms of service or not. In principle, the TOS prohibit
> gambling content (letter f of "Prohibited content" under "Google AppEngine
> Program Policies"). The application would be similar to a blog on sports
> betting, with tips and advice for people who enjoy betting in sports
> competitions. Users will not be able to make bets using my application, but
> they would receive explicit advise on which bets are more profitable than
> others. Would that break the terms of service? I am thinking of GAE to
> develop the application but I am not sure if it could be rejected by Google,
> because clearly it is not an app that enables gambling but it will help
> bettors in their decissions. Any clue? Thank you very much.
>
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[google-appengine] I want to install Google App Engine on my web server !

[EquatorLounge]

I want to build a website using the django framework on the google app
engine on MY own server..

I know GAE provides space for free with datastore and django and
everything but i WANT TO USE MY SERVER just in case lol oh just how
these letters in capitals are creepy !

Is it not as simple as uploading a the Joomla CMS and getting
everythin' up n running in minutes ?

Is there any possibility for this to happen?

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[google-appengine] REST web service client in gae

[José Miguel Bataller]

Hi all,

My situation is the following, I am able to run restful web services
using the wink library for Java in the google appengine without any
problem and  I am having problems when I try to go one step further,
trying to consume remote restful web services with JSON responses from
inside my restful web services.

Is it possible to use a REST web service client to connect to 3rd
party apps in google appengine?

I have seen in the official page of Google: "WillItPlayInJava" that is
not possible (http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/wiki/
WillItPlayInJava).

However, in that page, it says that the google appengine supports the
Google Data client library.  I haven't tried this library, has anybody
tried and can confirm that it works?

How is possible that the google data client library is compatible with
the appengine, which means that the appengine is able to establish
http connections with remote servers and a restful web service client
does not work when it is exactly the same?

Thanks.


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[google-appengine] Billing for additional RAM

[kash]

I wonder if anyone knows how google plans to charge for additional RAM 
usage. they never mentioned that. They mentioned that they bill for those 
resources:

ResourceUnitUnit costOutgoing Bandwidthgigabytes$0.12Incoming Bandwidth
gigabytes$0.10CPU TimeCPU hours$0.10Stored Datagigabytes per 
month$0.15Recipients 
Emailedrecipients$0.0001

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[google-appengine] Billing for additional RAM

[Mohamed kash]

Hi All .. I wonder if anyone knows how google plans to charge for
additional RAM usage. they never mentioned that

/Kash

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[google-appengine] Images Python API: Two issues regarding PNG transparency

[Tammo Freese]

Hi all,


I currently try to use the Images Python API to scale images. While
scaling works generally, there are two issues I'd love to know a way
to work around:

- If I resize and crop a PNG image having an 8 bit alpha channel:
  Expected: Transparency is not affected by scale & crop.
  Actual: The transparent parts are black afterwards.

- If I resize and crop a PNG image having no alpha channel:
  Expected: The resulting image has no alpha channel.
  Actual: The resulting image has an alpha channel.

For both issues, I tried to prevent these using the images.composite
function, but could not find any work around: The PNG image I got in
the first case always gets the transparent parts in black, and the PNG
image in the second case always gets an alpha channel (even if the
background color used in images.composite is opaque).

Do you know whether there are any workarounds for these issues?


Cheers,

Tammo Freese

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[google-appengine] how to fix this invalid syntax exception?

[retif]

why this code raises : invalid syntax
(main.py, line 15) ?
problem is only on production server. dev_appserver works ok

def main():

   def singleton(cls):
   instances = {}
   def getinstance():
   if cls not in instances:
   instances[cls] = cls()
   return instances[cls]
   return getinstance

   @singleton
   class Registry(dict):
   def set(self, key, value):
   self[key] = value

if __name__ == '__main__':
 main()

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[google-appengine] Unauthorized Error 401. I can't found the solution in this forum, so I post it here. Hope someone can help me!

[Paul]

The problem is :

I can use appcfg.py to upload the python programe, and also can update
success. When I use the app engine to register a android client gmail,
It is success, and I can find the registered account in the app engine
server, but when I use the python in server to send message to android
client , It occured the fault that Unauthorized Error 401.


I use this programe on another my google appengine account ,It is
right , all is successful.

So I don't know what is wrong with this egine.

In another App engine of mine, I use the same programe with this app
engine account, but everything is ok.
Can someone tell me why, or give me some advices.


The server python programe is :


class Registration(db.Model):
accountName=db.StringProperty()
registrationId=db.StringProperty()

class StartPage(webapp.RequestHandler):
def get(self):
self.response.headers['Content-Type'] = 'text/html'
self.response.out.write('')
self.response.out.write('')
self.response.out.write('')
self.response.out.write('Push')
self.response.out.write('')
self.response.out.write('')
self.response.out.write('')
self.response.out.write('' )
self.response.out.write('' )
self.response.out.write('-' )
items = db.GqlQuery("SELECT * FROM Registration" )
for r in items:
self.response.out.write(''+r.accountName+'' )
self.response.out.write('' )
self.response.out.write('')
self.response.out.write('')
self.response.out.write('')
self.response.out.write('')
self.response.out.write('')
self.response.out.write('')
self.response.out.write('')

class Sender(webapp.RequestHandler):
def get(self):
self.response.headers['Content-Type'] = 'text/plain'
self.response.set_status( 500,"Server error" )
self.response.out.write( "GET not supported" )

def post(self):
accountName = self.request.get( "accountName" )
text = self.request.get( "text" )
itemquery = db.GqlQuery("SELECT * FROM Registration WHERE
accountName=:1",
accountName )
items = itemquery.fetch(1)
self.response.headers['Content-Type'] = 'text/html'
self.response.set_status( 200,"OK" )
self.response.out.write('')
self.response.out.write('')
self.response.out.write('')
self.response.out.write('Push')
self.response.out.write('')
self.response.out.write('')
self.response.out.write('')
if len(items)>0:
registration=items[0]
registrationId=registration.registrationId
status = self.sendMessage( accountName, registrationId,
text )
self.response.out.write('Message sent, status: '+status
+'' )
else:
self.response.out.write( "No registration for
'"+accountName+"'" )
self.response.out.write('Back to start page' )
self.response.out.write('')
self.response.out.write('')

def sendMessage( self, accountName, registrationId, text ):
global collapse_key
global server_account_name
authToken = self.getAuthToken()
if authToken=="":
return "Cannot authenticate "+server_account_name
form_fields = {
"registration_id": registrationId,
"collapse_key": str(collapse_key),
"data.message": text
}
logging.info( "authToken: "+authToken )
form_data = urllib.urlencode(form_fields)
result = urlfetch.fetch(url="https://android.apis.google.com/
c2dm/send",
payload=form_data,
method=urlfetch.POST,
headers={'Content-Type': 'application/x-www-
form-urlencoded',
 'Authorization': 'GoogleLogin
auth='+authToken
})
collapse_key=collapse_key+1
return result.content

def getAuthToken(self):
global server_account_name
global server_account_password
form_fields = {
"accountType": "GOOGLE",
"Email": server_account_name,
"Passwd": server_account_password,
"service": "ac2dm",
"source": "mylifewithandroid-push-2.0"
}
form_data = urllib.urlencode(form_fields)
result = urlfetch.fetch(url="https://www.google.com/accounts/
ClientLogin",
payload=form_data,
method=urlfetch.POST,
headers={'Content-Type': 'application/x-www-
form-urlencoded'
})
if result.status_code==200:
logging.info( "Auth response: "+result.content )
lines=result.content.split('\n')
authToken=""
for line in lines:
if line.startswith( "Auth=" ):
authToken=line

[google-appengine] GAE error - Try Again (503) An unexpected failure has occurred. Please try again.

[Chris K]

Hi,

I'm getting the 503 error when I try to deploy my app.
I deployed it months ago with no problems.
Since then, I bought a new laptop and transferred my files over, so
some settings or the local Python version may have changed.
I made a small change to the app today locally (changed some text).
It works locally.
When I deploy, I get this error:

2010-12-18 08:56:38 Running command: "[u'C:\\Python25\\pythonw.exe', '-
u', 'C:\\Program Files\\Google\\google_appengine\\appcfg.py', '--
no_cookies', u'--email=chris.kok...@gmail.com', '--passin', 'update',
'C:\\ExcludedFromBackups\\Google_App_Engine\\playa-time']"
Application: playa-time; version: 1.
Server: appengine.google.com.
Scanning files on local disk.
Initiating update.
2010-12-18 08:56:46,312 WARNING appengine_rpc.py:405 ssl module not
found.
Without the ssl module, the identity of the remote host cannot be
verified, and
connections may NOT be secure. To fix this, please install the ssl
module from
http://pypi.python.org/pypi/ssl .
To learn more, see http://code.google.com/appengine/kb/general.html#rpcssl
.
Password for chris.kok...@gmail.com: Could not guess mimetype for
images/Thumbs.db.  Using application/octet-stream.
Cloning 4 static files.
Cloning 14 application files.
Uploading 1 files and blobs.
Uploaded 1 files and blobs
Precompilation starting.
Rolling back the update.
Error 503: --- begin server output ---

Try Again (503)
An unexpected failure has occurred. Please try again.
--- end server output ---
2010-12-18 08:57:45 (Process exited with code 1)

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[google-appengine] how to fix this invalid syntax exception?

[retif]

why this code raises : invalid syntax
(main.py, line 15) ?
problem is only on production server. dev_appserver works ok

def main():

def singleton(cls):
instances = {}
def getinstance():
if cls not in instances:
instances[cls] = cls()
return instances[cls]
return getinstance

@singleton
class Registry(dict):
def set(self, key, value):
self[key] = value

if __name__ == '__main__':
  main()

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Re: [google-appengine] Help desk app

[Richard]

I am looking for something simple I can customize to integrate with our 
existing business processes. The business is essentially negotiating 
contracts with clients and then managing the projects with contractors.


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Re: [google-appengine] Help desk app

[Sarfaraz]

free lunch?
On Dec 20, 2010 6:15 PM, "supercobra"  wrote:
> Could you describe what you are trying to achieve?
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Richard Baron Penman
>  wrote:
>> yes there are many proprietary paid help desk systems like mojo, but
that's
>> not what I'm after.
>> Is there atleast an email app running on GAE, which I could integrate
>> tickets with?
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 1:05 AM, supercobra  wrote:
>>>
>>> Mojo Helpdesk is integrated with Google apps and receives email,
>>> create tickets, set ticket status, etc... Not on GAE yet but fully
>>> integrated with single sign on and Google accounts.
>>>
>>> www.mojohelpdesk.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 7:35 AM, Richard  wrote:
>>> > Have any open source help desk apps been built for GAE? Something that
>>> > receives emails, creates a ticket, send replies, set ticket status,
etc
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Re: [google-appengine] Re: Newbie Q - Public IP address_DNS Server?

[Julien Lancelot]

Sorry, it was a mistake, I'd like to kwnow if the IP (not url :( ) is
unique? Or, how to we know the different IPs?
Because the goal is to have specifics IP that I can give to the web service.


On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 16:09, Barry Hunter  wrote:

> On 20 December 2010 14:08, Julien Lancelot 
> wrote:
> > I like the managed solution, apigee.com that you already gave in a
> previous
> > message.
> > The first time I go on the website I thought it was only for specific API
> as
> > twitter, facebook, etc... But now I create a account and I see it can
> > connect on any services.
> > I try to connect on my SOAP web service, but it doesn't work for the
> > moment... Have to try again.
> > Last thing, how do you know that the url given by apigee is unique?
>
> Well the subdomain you create is of course unique - because apigee
> assigns it so it can enforce uniqueness. Can choose a very
> non-guessable url.
>
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 13:59, Barry Hunter 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 20 December 2010 12:24, jlancelot  wrote:
> >> > Yes Barry, I'm afraid that the proxy could become a performance
> >> > bottleneck for my application. Even if it's only a prototype for the
> >> > moment, I don't want to be bloqued in the futur because of a bad
> >> > choice...
> >> >
> >> > Have you (or someone on the net ;) ) a good proxy hosts to give me?
> >>
> >> No specific provider, plenty of hosters offering VMs. but highly
> >> recommend haproxy http://haproxy.1wt.eu/ - even a small VM should
> >> easily manage thousends of concurrent requests (providing the hoster
> >> has the bandwidth).
> >>
> >> Or for a managed solution http://apigee.com/ (which I understand is
> >> built on top of AWS)
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> > Thanks a lot for all!
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On 18 déc, 00:47, Barry Hunter  wrote:
> >> >> Unless its an API from one of the 'big players' then its unlikly that
> >> >> the proxy would become a performance bottleneck. ie the proxy will
> >> >> likely out perform the API itself.
> >> >>
> >> >> Or do you mean a problem as a SPOF (single point of failure) - if
> >> >> worried about that then could get two proxies :) And hope the API
> >> >> provider allows you to specify multiple IPs.
> >> >>
> >> >> (its unlikly you would get a redunant system - including from Google
> -
> >> >> using a single outgoing IP anyway)
> >> >>
> >> >> On 17 December 2010 22:18, Baz  wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> > If you route every request through a proxy, you are giving up all
> the
> >> >> > scalability benefits?
> >> >>
> >> >> > On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 12:17 PM, A. Stevko  >
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >> I agree with Barry - setting up a proxy forwarder is the simplest
> >> >> >> work-around when compared to porting a self managed app instance.
> >> >> >> Folks with apps serving China and Turkey are doing exactly that.
> >> >> >> There are plenty of cheap/free apache mod_rewrite hosts that can
> be
> >> >> >> configured to give you a static ip and check the sender's ip so
> they
> >> >> >> are
> >> >> >> only as vulnerable as the destination service.
> >> >>
> >> >> >> On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 5:01 AM, Julien Lancelot
> >> >> >>  wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >>> Thanks, it's done!
> >> >> >>> Hope Google could do something sooner...
> >> >>
> >> >> >>> On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 13:43, Erwin Streur
> >> >> >>> 
> >> >> >>> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>  You might want to star the following issue
> >> >>
> >> >> http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=1269
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Re: [google-appengine] Help desk app

[supercobra]

Could you describe what you are trying to achieve?


On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Richard Baron Penman
 wrote:
> yes there are many proprietary paid help desk systems like mojo, but that's
> not what I'm after.
> Is there atleast an email app running on GAE, which I could integrate
> tickets with?
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 1:05 AM, supercobra  wrote:
>>
>> Mojo Helpdesk is integrated with Google apps and receives email,
>> create tickets, set ticket status, etc... Not on GAE yet but fully
>> integrated with single sign on and Google accounts.
>>
>> www.mojohelpdesk.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 7:35 AM, Richard  wrote:
>> > Have any open source help desk apps been built for GAE? Something that
>> > receives emails, creates a ticket, send replies, set ticket status, etc
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Re: [google-appengine] Help desk app

[Richard Baron Penman]

yes there are many proprietary paid help desk systems like mojo, but that's
not what I'm after.

Is there atleast an email app running on GAE, which I could integrate
tickets with?



On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 1:05 AM, supercobra  wrote:

> Mojo Helpdesk is integrated with Google apps and receives email,
> create tickets, set ticket status, etc... Not on GAE yet but fully
> integrated with single sign on and Google accounts.
>
> www.mojohelpdesk.com
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 7:35 AM, Richard  wrote:
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Re: [google-appengine] Re: Newbie Q - Public IP address_DNS Server?

[Barry Hunter]

On 20 December 2010 14:08, Julien Lancelot  wrote:
> I like the managed solution, apigee.com that you already gave in a previous
> message.
> The first time I go on the website I thought it was only for specific API as
> twitter, facebook, etc... But now I create a account and I see it can
> connect on any services.
> I try to connect on my SOAP web service, but it doesn't work for the
> moment... Have to try again.
> Last thing, how do you know that the url given by apigee is unique?

Well the subdomain you create is of course unique - because apigee
assigns it so it can enforce uniqueness. Can choose a very
non-guessable url.

>
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 13:59, Barry Hunter  wrote:
>>
>> On 20 December 2010 12:24, jlancelot  wrote:
>> > Yes Barry, I'm afraid that the proxy could become a performance
>> > bottleneck for my application. Even if it's only a prototype for the
>> > moment, I don't want to be bloqued in the futur because of a bad
>> > choice...
>> >
>> > Have you (or someone on the net ;) ) a good proxy hosts to give me?
>>
>> No specific provider, plenty of hosters offering VMs. but highly
>> recommend haproxy http://haproxy.1wt.eu/ - even a small VM should
>> easily manage thousends of concurrent requests (providing the hoster
>> has the bandwidth).
>>
>> Or for a managed solution http://apigee.com/ (which I understand is
>> built on top of AWS)
>>
>>
>> >
>> > Thanks a lot for all!
>> >
>> >
>> > On 18 déc, 00:47, Barry Hunter  wrote:
>> >> Unless its an API from one of the 'big players' then its unlikly that
>> >> the proxy would become a performance bottleneck. ie the proxy will
>> >> likely out perform the API itself.
>> >>
>> >> Or do you mean a problem as a SPOF (single point of failure) - if
>> >> worried about that then could get two proxies :) And hope the API
>> >> provider allows you to specify multiple IPs.
>> >>
>> >> (its unlikly you would get a redunant system - including from Google -
>> >> using a single outgoing IP anyway)
>> >>
>> >> On 17 December 2010 22:18, Baz  wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > If you route every request through a proxy, you are giving up all the
>> >> > scalability benefits?
>> >>
>> >> > On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 12:17 PM, A. Stevko 
>> >> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >> I agree with Barry - setting up a proxy forwarder is the simplest
>> >> >> work-around when compared to porting a self managed app instance.
>> >> >> Folks with apps serving China and Turkey are doing exactly that.
>> >> >> There are plenty of cheap/free apache mod_rewrite hosts that can be
>> >> >> configured to give you a static ip and check the sender's ip so they
>> >> >> are
>> >> >> only as vulnerable as the destination service.
>> >>
>> >> >> On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 5:01 AM, Julien Lancelot
>> >> >>  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >>> Thanks, it's done!
>> >> >>> Hope Google could do something sooner...
>> >>
>> >> >>> On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 13:43, Erwin Streur
>> >> >>> 
>> >> >>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>  You might want to star the following issue
>> >>
>> >> http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=1269
>> >>
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Re: [google-appengine] Re: Newbie Q - Public IP address_DNS Server?

[Julien Lancelot]

I like the managed solution, apigee.com that you already gave in a previous
message.
The first time I go on the website I thought it was only for specific API as
twitter, facebook, etc... But now I create a account and I see it can
connect on any services.

I try to connect on my SOAP web service, but it doesn't work for the
moment... Have to try again.

Last thing, how do you know that the url given by apigee is unique?




On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 13:59, Barry Hunter  wrote:

> On 20 December 2010 12:24, jlancelot  wrote:
> > Yes Barry, I'm afraid that the proxy could become a performance
> > bottleneck for my application. Even if it's only a prototype for the
> > moment, I don't want to be bloqued in the futur because of a bad
> > choice...
> >
> > Have you (or someone on the net ;) ) a good proxy hosts to give me?
>
> No specific provider, plenty of hosters offering VMs. but highly
> recommend haproxy http://haproxy.1wt.eu/ - even a small VM should
> easily manage thousends of concurrent requests (providing the hoster
> has the bandwidth).
>
> Or for a managed solution http://apigee.com/ (which I understand is
> built on top of AWS)
>
>
> >
> > Thanks a lot for all!
> >
> >
> > On 18 déc, 00:47, Barry Hunter  wrote:
> >> Unless its an API from one of the 'big players' then its unlikly that
> >> the proxy would become a performance bottleneck. ie the proxy will
> >> likely out perform the API itself.
> >>
> >> Or do you mean a problem as a SPOF (single point of failure) - if
> >> worried about that then could get two proxies :) And hope the API
> >> provider allows you to specify multiple IPs.
> >>
> >> (its unlikly you would get a redunant system - including from Google -
> >> using a single outgoing IP anyway)
> >>
> >> On 17 December 2010 22:18, Baz  wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> > If you route every request through a proxy, you are giving up all the
> >> > scalability benefits?
> >>
> >> > On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 12:17 PM, A. Stevko 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> >> I agree with Barry - setting up a proxy forwarder is the simplest
> >> >> work-around when compared to porting a self managed app instance.
> >> >> Folks with apps serving China and Turkey are doing exactly that.
> >> >> There are plenty of cheap/free apache mod_rewrite hosts that can be
> >> >> configured to give you a static ip and check the sender's ip so they
> are
> >> >> only as vulnerable as the destination service.
> >>
> >> >> On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 5:01 AM, Julien Lancelot
> >> >>  wrote:
> >>
> >> >>> Thanks, it's done!
> >> >>> Hope Google could do something sooner...
> >>
> >> >>> On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 13:43, Erwin Streur  >
> >> >>> wrote:
> >>
> >>  You might want to star the following issue
> >>
> >> http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=1269
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Re: [google-appengine] Help desk app

[supercobra]

Mojo Helpdesk is integrated with Google apps and receives email,
create tickets, set ticket status, etc... Not on GAE yet but fully
integrated with single sign on and Google accounts.

www.mojohelpdesk.com





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[google-appengine] Help desk app

[Richard]

Have any open source help desk apps been built for GAE? Something that 
receives emails, creates a ticket, send replies, set ticket status, etc

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Re: [google-appengine] Re: Newbie Q - Public IP address_DNS Server?

[Barry Hunter]

On 20 December 2010 12:24, jlancelot  wrote:
> Yes Barry, I'm afraid that the proxy could become a performance
> bottleneck for my application. Even if it's only a prototype for the
> moment, I don't want to be bloqued in the futur because of a bad
> choice...
>
> Have you (or someone on the net ;) ) a good proxy hosts to give me?

No specific provider, plenty of hosters offering VMs. but highly
recommend haproxy http://haproxy.1wt.eu/ - even a small VM should
easily manage thousends of concurrent requests (providing the hoster
has the bandwidth).

Or for a managed solution http://apigee.com/ (which I understand is
built on top of AWS)


>
> Thanks a lot for all!
>
>
> On 18 déc, 00:47, Barry Hunter  wrote:
>> Unless its an API from one of the 'big players' then its unlikly that
>> the proxy would become a performance bottleneck. ie the proxy will
>> likely out perform the API itself.
>>
>> Or do you mean a problem as a SPOF (single point of failure) - if
>> worried about that then could get two proxies :) And hope the API
>> provider allows you to specify multiple IPs.
>>
>> (its unlikly you would get a redunant system - including from Google -
>> using a single outgoing IP anyway)
>>
>> On 17 December 2010 22:18, Baz  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > If you route every request through a proxy, you are giving up all the
>> > scalability benefits?
>>
>> > On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 12:17 PM, A. Stevko  wrote:
>>
>> >> I agree with Barry - setting up a proxy forwarder is the simplest
>> >> work-around when compared to porting a self managed app instance.
>> >> Folks with apps serving China and Turkey are doing exactly that.
>> >> There are plenty of cheap/free apache mod_rewrite hosts that can be
>> >> configured to give you a static ip and check the sender's ip so they are
>> >> only as vulnerable as the destination service.
>>
>> >> On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 5:01 AM, Julien Lancelot
>> >>  wrote:
>>
>> >>> Thanks, it's done!
>> >>> Hope Google could do something sooner...
>>
>> >>> On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 13:43, Erwin Streur 
>> >>> wrote:
>>
>>  You might want to star the following issue
>>
>> http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=1269
>>
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[google-appengine] Re: Newbie Q - Public IP address_DNS Server?

[jlancelot]

Yes Barry, I'm afraid that the proxy could become a performance
bottleneck for my application. Even if it's only a prototype for the
moment, I don't want to be bloqued in the futur because of a bad
choice...

Have you (or someone on the net ;) ) a good proxy hosts to give me?

Thanks a lot for all!


On 18 déc, 00:47, Barry Hunter  wrote:
> Unless its an API from one of the 'big players' then its unlikly that
> the proxy would become a performance bottleneck. ie the proxy will
> likely out perform the API itself.
>
> Or do you mean a problem as a SPOF (single point of failure) - if
> worried about that then could get two proxies :) And hope the API
> provider allows you to specify multiple IPs.
>
> (its unlikly you would get a redunant system - including from Google -
> using a single outgoing IP anyway)
>
> On 17 December 2010 22:18, Baz  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > If you route every request through a proxy, you are giving up all the
> > scalability benefits?
>
> > On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 12:17 PM, A. Stevko  wrote:
>
> >> I agree with Barry - setting up a proxy forwarder is the simplest
> >> work-around when compared to porting a self managed app instance.
> >> Folks with apps serving China and Turkey are doing exactly that.
> >> There are plenty of cheap/free apache mod_rewrite hosts that can be
> >> configured to give you a static ip and check the sender's ip so they are
> >> only as vulnerable as the destination service.
>
> >> On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 5:01 AM, Julien Lancelot
> >>  wrote:
>
> >>> Thanks, it's done!
> >>> Hope Google could do something sooner...
>
> >>> On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 13:43, Erwin Streur 
> >>> wrote:
>
>  You might want to star the following issue
>
> http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=1269
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Re: [google-appengine] Re: Channel API: a suggestion

[Iap]

I am second to Will.
The queued feature is good for a busy sever which may have to send several
messages
 to the newly-connected client during the download-and-initialization
interval.
My suggestion is to allow flush the queue when calls create_channel, say,
.create_channel(token, flush=True)
if flush is True,  behaves like in the productive environment. (Do not
queue)
if flush is False, behaves like in the SDK environment.(Do queue)

2010/12/8 Moishe 

> Hi, Will - thanks for the feedback.
>
> This is an artifact of how the dev appserver works (because of
> polling, we need to queue messages), but the Channel API doesn't
> behave this way in production.
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[google-appengine] Datastore Admin is showing an error page

[Praveen ....]

Currently, when I click on my Datastore Admin option in my application I get 
this error
Error: Server ErrorThe server encountered an error and could not complete 
your request.

If the problem persists, please 
report your 
problem and mention this error message and the query that caused it.

I have added the 

builtins:

- datastore_admin: on 

to my app.yaml

If I deploy the same code on a different application, I am able to use the 
datastore admin option.

What causes this issue? Can anyone help?

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