[google-appengine] Re: Traffic migrate between versions is stuck

[Joachim Stokke]

Hi Nick!

I agree this should not happen. I was able to reproduce it as well on a new 
project. Upload a second version that is corrupt, then try migrate traffic. 
It gets stuck. 
However thanks to your suggestion on stackoverflow about doing a rollback, 
it has been un-stuck :) 

Thank you so much!

On Thursday, September 17, 2015 at 12:49:05 AM UTC+2, Nick (Cloud Platform 
Support) wrote:
>
> Hey Joachim,
>
> This definitely seems like something that shouldn't occur. If the new 
> version has fatal errors, the infrastructure managing the migration should 
> detect this and back off, eventually terminating the migration status. Feel 
> free to open a public issue tracker issue 
>  as 
> type-production detailing the problem and you'll hopefully get some help 
> shortly. You can rely on guaranteed response times with a support package, 
> but you can always use the public issue tracker to report an issue. 
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Nick 
>
> On Wednesday, September 16, 2015 at 3:00:44 PM UTC-4, Joachim Stokke wrote:
>>
>> Hi guys! I've got myself in a bind here. 
>> I accidentally deployed a java 8 compiled version to app engine, and then 
>> hit the migrate traffic button.. The traffic migration is now stuck, 
>> because the new version is not working (or at least that's what I presume 
>> is why it's stuck). I also cannot update the java 8 version to fix it 
>> because it's blocked by the traffic migration process.
>>
>> I wrote a StackOverflow question here: 
>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/32611549/is-there-a-way-to-cancel-traffic-migration-in-google-app-engine
>>
>>
>> I was also able to reproduce this in a fresh project, but right now I 
>> just need help to get unstuck from this. 
>>
>> I hope someone from support can take a look at this for me! (or if anyone 
>> has any suggestions on how to fix it).
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>>

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[google-appengine] Google app engine Cloud SQL connection error

[David Wiesenfeld]

I have an App Engine App that uses a Cloud SQL database for storing some 
data. I have a cron job that runs a bunch of data gathering code at 1am, 
and it's failing with the error:


OperationalError: (1045, "Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using 
password: NO)")


If I go to the Google Developers Console and set the password for 
root@localhost to "" (ie open the change password dialog, hit OK without 
entering anything in the password field), the job that the cron job points 
to finishes without a hitch. SQL access will then work for the rest of the 
day.


But the next cron job the following day will fail with the same error.


It seems like the root@localhost password is being reset to something at 
some point during the night. Anybody have any idea what's going on?

Thanks!

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[google-appengine] Re: Old versions of Managed VMs

[Jason Collins]

Jeff, there is a tiny switch in the legacy console Versions tab that allows 
you to "stop" a managed VM. I believe this will delete the underlying VMs 
while still keeping your version and logs around. Big gotcha: you need to 
manually re-"start" the version to serve any traffic (regardless of your 
scaling configuration) - this has tripped me up a number of times.





I have not found the equivalent button in the new console, so I don't know 
how you'd achieve same there.

Also, this is still a rapidly evolving feature, so this advice is seriously 
time-limited! ;)

j


On Wednesday, 16 September 2015 14:05:58 UTC-7, Jeff Schnitzer wrote:
>
> Interesting. Maybe I just didn't wait long enough after deleting the 
> nondefault versions.
>
> Still, it's a small surprise that I have to prune old versions. With 
> normal GAE, I leave those versions around so I can go back through the logs 
> when necessary.
>
> Jeff
>
> On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 1:03 PM, Michael Spainhower  > wrote:
>
>> I am using managed vms and also have the issue of non-default versions 
>> running residual instances.  However, I do not experience the issue you 
>> have described where the instances remain even after deleting the 
>> non-default versions.
>>
>> Are you using a standard runtime or custom runtime (
>> https://cloud.google.com/appengine/docs/managed-vms/#runtimes)?  The 
>> lifecycle (shutdown) request handling seems like a potential culprit, so 
>> that may be worth examining if you are using a custom runtime.  I am using 
>> a node custom Dockerfile and my app just returns a 200 on requests to `
>> /_ah/stop` (
>> https://github.com/home-buddy/express-appengine-handlers/blob/master/index.js#L18).
>>   
>> You can probably check your logs for requests to that URL to see if there 
>> are non-200 responses.
>>
>> What version of the gcloud cli tool are you running?  While potentially 
>> unrelated to this issue, you may want to update it because I do not think 
>> `--remote` is an option anymore (implying you may need an update).
>>
>> As an aside, I would love guidance on fixing the issue where every 
>> non-default version has instances running.  Perhaps this is the expected 
>> behavior since managed VMs is labeled as beta?
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, September 15, 2015 at 7:15:10 PM UTC-4, Jeff Schnitzer wrote:
>>>
>>> I have a python app on a Managed VM which I deploy with:
>>>
>>> gcloud preview app deploy app.yaml --remote --set-default
>>>
>>> It's set to manual scaling, instances 1.
>>>
>>> It appears that every time I deploy it, the old instance stick around 
>>> (and get billed for). Even deleting the old versions from the appengine 
>>> console didn't shut down the compute engine instances. I had to figure out 
>>> which compute engine instance was my "live" one and delete all the others 
>>> from the Compute Engine part of the console.
>>>
>>> Is this supposed to work this way or is there a better workflow? I just 
>>> want to deploy the new version and have the old version go away... like 
>>> regular App Engine.
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>>
>>
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[google-appengine] Some instances running unreleased version of the App Engine SDK?

[Julian Bunn]

We noticed on Sep 15 and 16 (a couple of days ago) that some of our GAE 
instances were running version 1.9.27 of the SDK, rather than the released 
version 1.9.26.

(We coincidentally had several serious issues with our application.)

Could someone please advise on how this can happen, and what we can do to 
prevent it happening in the future (i.e. force instances to only run the 
latest production release of the SDK)? Is there an application setting 
somewhere?

I apologize if this is the wrong Group for such questions.

Many thanks!
Julian

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Re: [google-appengine] Some instances running unreleased version of the App Engine SDK?

[Julian Bunn]

Thanks, PK - I will take a look at the issue you filed and comment 
accordingly.

We suffered pretty major disruption to our application, and lost many hours 
of data, unfortunately. The symptoms were extra null fields in some 
Datastore objects, which caused storage of new uploaded data from clients 
to fail, and a greatly increased Error rate from our app. 

Julian



On Thursday, September 17, 2015 at 2:22:08 PM UTC-7, PK wrote:
>
> Hi Julian,
>
> Google routinely does this when they release a new runtime that they 
> believe it is backwards incompatible. It mostly works OK but I did 
> experience downtime for several hours on July 24th because a new version 
> was rolled out that had an issue. It was a Friday, I was in an 
> intercontinental flight without internet when the roll out happened and it 
> was a small disaster. Google did take the issue seriously when I finally 
> brought it to their attention but it took many hours to get back to stable 
> ground. 
>
> I think Google can do some things to improve this. First, it needs to pass 
> some control of when we upgrade the runtime to developers hands so the 
> world does not change suddenly and unexpectedly under our feet. 
> Furthermore, as they roll out new versions they should *automatically* 
> revert applications back to the previous version if the error rate was 
> almost zero before and spikes as soon as instances in the new version come 
> onboard.
>
> I have filed this issue 
>  in the 
> public tracker. I highly encourage others to star it and add your ideas 
> before you find yourselves in my or Julian’s shoes.
>
> Best 
>
>
> On Sep 17, 2015, at 12:34 PM, Julian Bunn  
> wrote:
>
> We noticed on Sep 15 and 16 (a couple of days ago) that some of our GAE 
> instances were running version 1.9.27 of the SDK, rather than the released 
> version 1.9.26.
>
> (We coincidentally had several serious issues with our application.)
>
> Could someone please advise on how this can happen, and what we can do to 
> prevent it happening in the future (i.e. force instances to only run the 
> latest production release of the SDK)? Is there an application setting 
> somewhere?
>
> I apologize if this is the wrong Group for such questions.
>
> Many thanks!
> Julian
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Re: [google-appengine] Some instances running unreleased version of the App Engine SDK?

[PK]

Hi Julian,

Google routinely does this when they release a new runtime that they believe it 
is backwards incompatible. It mostly works OK but I did experience downtime for 
several hours on July 24th because a new version was rolled out that had an 
issue. It was a Friday, I was in an intercontinental flight without internet 
when the roll out happened and it was a small disaster. Google did take the 
issue seriously when I finally brought it to their attention but it took many 
hours to get back to stable ground. 

I think Google can do some things to improve this. First, it needs to pass some 
control of when we upgrade the runtime to developers hands so the world does 
not change suddenly and unexpectedly under our feet. Furthermore, as they roll 
out new versions they should automatically revert applications back to the 
previous version if the error rate was almost zero before and spikes as soon as 
instances in the new version come onboard.

I have filed this issue 
 in the 
public tracker. I highly encourage others to star it and add your ideas before 
you find yourselves in my or Julian’s shoes.

Best 


> On Sep 17, 2015, at 12:34 PM, Julian Bunn  wrote:
> 
> We noticed on Sep 15 and 16 (a couple of days ago) that some of our GAE 
> instances were running version 1.9.27 of the SDK, rather than the released 
> version 1.9.26.
> 
> (We coincidentally had several serious issues with our application.)
> 
> Could someone please advise on how this can happen, and what we can do to 
> prevent it happening in the future (i.e. force instances to only run the 
> latest production release of the SDK)? Is there an application setting 
> somewhere?
> 
> I apologize if this is the wrong Group for such questions.
> 
> Many thanks!
> Julian
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[google-appengine] Re: Google app engine Cloud SQL connection error

[Patrice (Cloud Platform Support)]

Hi David,

Normally on such a thread, I'd suggest you to go to Stack Overflow with 
your question, as Google groups are more appropriate for open-ended 
discussions then specific questions about how to use the platform. Since we 
monitor Stack Overflow for our tags, you're not losing any visibility, 
you're actually gaining some extra answerers.

I noticed a very similar question to yours here on Stack (I assume with the 
username it is you who crossposted). I also see an answer by someone from 
the community explaining the best practices and what should be done. The 
tips given are extremely valid and in par with what I would've suggested 
myself. Our docs state clearly that root should not be used for 
connectivity, and since your instance has public IPs that can be pinged, 
anyone trying to go in will be able to within a couple of tries if you 
don't have any kind of password on it. I would suggest setting up a 
password for your root to make sure this is secure, and using another 
account (again with a secure password) to connect onto your instance.

Cheers!

On Thursday, September 17, 2015 at 6:20:08 AM UTC-4, David Wiesenfeld wrote:
>
> I have an App Engine App that uses a Cloud SQL database for storing some 
> data. I have a cron job that runs a bunch of data gathering code at 1am, 
> and it's failing with the error:
>
>
> OperationalError: (1045, "Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using 
> password: NO)")
>
>
> If I go to the Google Developers Console and set the password for 
> root@localhost to "" (ie open the change password dialog, hit OK without 
> entering anything in the password field), the job that the cron job points 
> to finishes without a hitch. SQL access will then work for the rest of the 
> day.
>
>
> But the next cron job the following day will fail with the same error.
>
>
> It seems like the root@localhost password is being reset to something at 
> some point during the night. Anybody have any idea what's going on?
>
> Thanks!
>

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Re: [google-appengine] dev_appserver.py super slow

[Diego Dominguez]

I have another AppEngine project who is working fine. It's not a issue with 
the RAM or CPU the computer is very powerful and there is no big process 
running.

I guess have to be something with the watcher who detect the change in the 
code and look like restart the dev server. The admin dashboard work fine 
all the time.

On Thursday, September 17, 2015 at 8:34:16 PM UTC-4, PK wrote:
>
> What machine, how much ram, have you looked at the OS profiler who is 
> using the cpu and ram?
>
> Did it ever work better?
>
> PK
> http://www.gae123.com 
> 
>
> On Sep 17, 2015, at 5:00 PM, Elizabeth Cox  
> wrote:
>
>
> - Python last version, but i try also with others 1.9.22 to 1.9.26 
> installed with GoogleAppEngineLauncher
> - OS X 10.11
>
>
> On Thursday, September 17, 2015 at 7:55:12 PM UTC-4, PK wrote:
>>
>> You need to send some more info on your os/hardware. It has been 
>> performing very well for me. 
>>
>> PK
>> http://www.gae123.com
>>
>> On Sep 17, 2015, at 4:47 PM, Elizabeth Cox  wrote:
>>
>> Even with a silly app like HelloWorld, every time I make a change on the 
>> code, and make a new request, the server take like 1-2 minutes to response.
>>
>> Anybody know why? and how to resolve this?
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[google-appengine] dev_appserver.py super slow

[Elizabeth Cox]

Even with a silly app like HelloWorld, every time I make a change on the 
code, and make a new request, the server take like 1-2 minutes to response.

Anybody know why? and how to resolve this?


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Re: [google-appengine] dev_appserver.py super slow

[PK]

What machine, how much ram, have you looked at the OS profiler who is using the 
cpu and ram?

Did it ever work better?

PK
http://www.gae123.com

> On Sep 17, 2015, at 5:00 PM, Elizabeth Cox  wrote:
> 
> 
> - Python last version, but i try also with others 1.9.22 to 1.9.26 installed 
> with GoogleAppEngineLauncher
> - OS X 10.11
> 
> 
>> On Thursday, September 17, 2015 at 7:55:12 PM UTC-4, PK wrote:
>> You need to send some more info on your os/hardware. It has been performing 
>> very well for me. 
>> 
>> PK
>> http://www.gae123.com
>> 
>>> On Sep 17, 2015, at 4:47 PM, Elizabeth Cox  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Even with a silly app like HelloWorld, every time I make a change on the 
>>> code, and make a new request, the server take like 1-2 minutes to response.
>>> 
>>> Anybody know why? and how to resolve this?
>>> 
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Re: [google-appengine] dev_appserver.py super slow

[PK]

You need to send some more info on your os/hardware. It has been performing 
very well for me. 

PK
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> On Sep 17, 2015, at 4:47 PM, Elizabeth Cox  wrote:
> 
> Even with a silly app like HelloWorld, every time I make a change on the 
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> 
> Anybody know why? and how to resolve this?
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Re: [google-appengine] dev_appserver.py super slow

[Elizabeth Cox]

- Python last version, but i try also with others 1.9.22 to 1.9.26 
installed with GoogleAppEngineLauncher
- OS X 10.11


On Thursday, September 17, 2015 at 7:55:12 PM UTC-4, PK wrote:
>
> You need to send some more info on your os/hardware. It has been 
> performing very well for me. 
>
> PK
> http://www.gae123.com
>
> On Sep 17, 2015, at 4:47 PM, Elizabeth Cox  
> wrote:
>
> Even with a silly app like HelloWorld, every time I make a change on the 
> code, and make a new request, the server take like 1-2 minutes to response.
>
> Anybody know why? and how to resolve this?
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Re: [google-appengine] Re: The price of Google Channel API

[F.L Lee]

Hi Nick, Alex,

Just let you know, we're still waiting for your updates on this question,
in order to make final decision.
Inform me ASAP when you figure out the confirmative answer. Look forward to
your early replay.
Thanks in advance.

best regards,
Forest

On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 7:15 AM, Nick (Cloud Platform Support) <
pay...@google.com> wrote:

> Hi F. L. Lee,
>
> I understand your question now. I've investigated the docs page in
> question and it appears that you're correct that there's no mention of the
> actual pricing. I believe this may be a case of the docs needing an update
> and we're working on getting it fixed already.
>
> There are many resources out there on the web such as stackoverflow which
> point to previous price-points, but those of course can't be relied-on.
>
> In the meantime, you can test your billing using the Developers Console
> and its Billing section, along with precisely performing a few small tests
> which create channels and send a given number of bytes over them, etc. Of
> course, you could also wait while the docs become updated.
>
> I hope this helps asnwer your questions.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Nick
>
> On Thursday, August 27, 2015 at 1:29:26 AM UTC-4, F.L Lee wrote:
>>
>> Hi Nick,
>>
>> Thanks for your prompt response.
>> Sorry for the confusion,actually I would like to know such cost
>>  information, like "$ 0.026 per GB per month" for "Code and static data
>> storage". I can't find such cost description for "channel api"
>>  Let me describe my questions in detail.
>> 1) Suppose "Channels Created" of my application is 10,000 within today,
>> then how much should I pay for it?
>> 2) Support "Channel Hours Requested" of my application is 20,000 within
>> today,   then how much should I pay for it?
>> 3) Support we have 1 million clients, and each client need maintain a
>> channel for 24 hours each day , then how much should I pay for single day?
>>
>> Not sure if I have clear my question. looking forward to your reply.
>>
>> best regards,
>> Forest
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, August 26, 2015 at 4:58:00 PM UTC+8, F.L Lee wrote:
>>>
>>> hi Guys,
>>>
>>> I have a question about the price of google channel API.  from
>>> https://cloud.google.com/appengine/docs/quotas, it claims, for paid
>>> user, the daily limits of "Channel Create" and "Channel Hour Requested" are
>>> both "based on your budget". Refer to the attached for more details.
>>> I can't find exactly how to charge for the exceeded Channel Creates and
>>> Channel Hour Requests. Could you please give me more details or forward my
>>> question to proper people if you're not the one? Thanks in advance.
>>>
>>> best regards
>>> Forest
>>>
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Re: [google-appengine] Lightweight Identity for App Engine Java

[Aswath Satrasala]

Supporting email login was a problem for me for a long time.  I was
able to roll my own after a long time.
Hopefully, this project will help the  other appengine community
projects.  They will get a good jump start to support other logins in
their projects.

-Aswath
www.AccountingGuru.net



On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 5:22 AM, Tim Niblett  wrote:
> The User service is handy and simple. That
> it only handles Google accounts is a problem for me.  I've created a
> lightweight identity library (LID) which is similar to the User service
> and provides authentication for Google, Facebook and any Email.
> Google auth is via the User service, Facebook via OAuth and Email via
> an Email sent to the user which contains a URL they visit to sign in.
> Sign-in is cookie based.
>
> There is a demo at https://cilogi-liddemo.appspot.com. The library is
> on Github at https://github.com/cilogi/lid.
>
> Its not general purpose, requiring Guice and running only on App
> Engine but it may be useful for someone if the User service is
> functionally OK but doesn't provide enough coverage.
>
> Tim
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