Re: [google-appengine] Best Practices for Search API?

[Emlyn]

"The search API is pretty cool. I hope Google makes an official service out
of it someday."

I second this! I live in fear of deprecation. How could we possibly replace
it?

On 10 June 2017 at 16:04, Jeff Schnitzer  wrote:

> No not at all; quite the opposite, really. I was storing word fragments
> for typeahead, eg “foobar” became [“f”, “fo”, “foo”, “foob”, “fooba”,
> “foobar”]. It was very expensive to index in the datastore and very cheap
> to index in the search api.
>
> The search API is pretty cool. I hope Google makes an official service out
> of it someday.
>
> Jeff
>
> On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 3:45 PM, Nickolas Daskalou 
> wrote:
>
>> Jeff, were you storing docs in the Search API somewhat intelligently,
>> e.g. using short field names, "0" instead of "false" for boolean values
>> etc., or you just sent documents to the Search API without much thought and
>> it was still efficiently storing them?
>>
>> Nick
>> On 10/06/2017 8:40 AM, "Jeff Schnitzer"  wrote:
>>
>>> The search index is incredibly efficient. I had some data I was indexing
>>> in the datastore, and the index was consuming 100GB+. When I moved it to
>>> the Search API, the index consumed a few GB. Afterwards I felt silly for
>>> asking for the quota raise in advance.
>>>
>>> YMMV, of course.
>>>
>>> Not a direct answer to your question but something to keep in mind. I
>>> was surprised by how small the index is.
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 11:34 PM, Emlyn  wrote:
>>>
 I've just noticed that the old 10GB limit on search indices can be
 raised on request to 200GB max, on an index by index basis.

 I've got a use case where I'd ideally like search indices to be
 unbounded, but 200GB will go a long way. Is there any penalty associated
 with this, though? Do the indices perform worse as they get larger? Does
 anyone know why there is a limit at all?

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[google-appengine] App Version - testing

[Richard Cheesmar]

Hi, 

Will adding data to a non default app version (testing) add it to the 
default ndb store? 

I haven't deployed another version yet just need to confirm this in advance 
as the new version uses modified model entities and I don't want to change 
the live version model entities whilst testing the new version.

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Re: [google-appengine] App Version - testing

[Emlyn]

All versions share the same data. Be careful there :-)

On 13 June 2017 at 18:51, Richard Cheesmar  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Will adding data to a non default app version (testing) add it to the
> default ndb store?
>
> I haven't deployed another version yet just need to confirm this in
> advance as the new version uses modified model entities and I don't want to
> change the live version model entities whilst testing the new version.
>
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[google-appengine] Re: App Version - testing

[Richard Cheesmar]

I thought as much, ok ,this means I'll have to launch straight out after 
more extensive local testing and then run some up front tasks to change the 
data structure of existing models when I launch.


On Tuesday, June 13, 2017 at 12:21:26 PM UTC+3, Richard Cheesmar wrote:
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> Hi, 
>
> Will adding data to a non default app version (testing) add it to the 
> default ndb store? 
>
> I haven't deployed another version yet just need to confirm this in 
> advance as the new version uses modified model entities and I don't want to 
> change the live version model entities whilst testing the new version.
>
> Cheers
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[google-appengine] App engine deployments with endpoint best practices

[Lance Myrick]

All, just wondering if anyone has some best practices for deploying an app 
engine flexible api implementation with an endpoint?  I have read the api 
appengine docs from googles site.

The clunkiness I have run into is there does not seem to be a good way to 
build and deploy the endpoints and app engine code at the same time as 
the endpoints_api_service>config_id parameter of the app.yaml file needs to 
be populated from the service-management config_id once the endpoint is 
deployed which is done by the glcoud service-management command not the 
maven deploy phase.

Our API implementation is a java maven project.  We are using the swagger 
maven plugin to generate the openapi.json file at build time.  Right now 
our jenkins job builds and deploys the endpoint only if there is a change 
to the openapi.json file, then grabs the config_id just created and 
populates the app.yaml file, after that we deploy the API code to app 
engine.  This process is simple enough; however, it feels clunky.  When I 
saw the maven appengine plugin I assumed that the plugin would handle not 
only the app engine api implementation but also the endpoints, this is not 
the case.

Am I missing something?

Thanks,  Lance


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Re: [google-appengine] Is Google App Engine Launcher being deprecated? Why??

[Alejandro Pivaral]

Yes, please! Google App Engine Launcher was great, specially for Windows 
users, I also want to focus in writing code not in command line stuff :(

On Sunday, May 21, 2017 at 3:41:30 PM UTC-6, Mike Elugelab wrote:
>
> I can't tell you how valuable the Launcher is.  I want to write code -- I 
> don't want to get entwined in the tortured world of devops scripting.  Yes, 
> understand Google wants us to use Cloud SDK, but the Launcher is such a 
> great front door to get in.  If you didn't have Launcher I'd change to 
> Heroku and never again think about App Engine again or tell my friends how 
> good it is/was.
>
> @Justin: please keep supporting (unofficially, of course) your GUI.  Maybe 
> Google will make it official.
>
> Meanwhile, a discussion on Stack Overflow pointed to this link where the 
> original App Engine Launcher can still be downloaded:
>
>
> https://cloud.google.com/appengine/docs/standard/python/download#appengine_sdk
>
>
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/38982261/has-the-google-app-engine-launcher-for-mac-osx-been-deprecated
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[google-appengine] Re: Anyone experiencing the new console log view being a bit busted?

['George (Cloud Platform Support)' via Google App Engine]

Hello Emlyn, 

This issue seems to manifest itself in particular circumstances, as I can 
not reproduce it based on the received information. More detail is needed, 
preferably a step-by-step description of the procedure. What types of logs 
are these, for which operations? 

All other information you deem relevant will be highly appreciated. 

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[google-appengine] Unable to get TLS 1.2 working on Mac OS

[NP]

1) I'm running Google App Engine SDK on Mac OS X El Capitan. I have Python 
2.7.13


2) While trying to test my app with Stripe, I get the following error

 Request req_ApPsfecKnLFJxb: Stripe no longer supports API requests 
made with TLS 1.0. Please initiate HTTPS connections with TLS 1.2 or later. 
You can learn more about thisat 
https://stripe.com/blog/upgrading-tls.


3) I did some Googling and based on what I found, I did the following


   -  Used brew to upgrade my OpenSSL
   - Confirmed that when I do 'which openssl', I get
   
 /usr/local/opt/openssl/bin/openssl

 and when I do 'openssl version', I get

OpenSSL 1.0.2l



   - If I do
   
   >>> import ssl

  >>> ssl.OPENSSL_VERSION, I get

  >>> 'OpenSSL 1.0.2l 23 May 2017'


But I still get the error from Stripe about not using TLS 1.2.


I found this SO question 
 but 
it didn't solve my problem. I also found this Google Group Discussion 
 and after running the 
steps in #5, it shows app engine is still pointing to the old version of 
OPENSSL because the output shows 'OpenSSL 0.9.8zh 14 Jan 2016'


4) Based on the earlier referenced Google Group Discussion, I ran the 
following code in both GAE Dev and directly in my python intepreter


import ssl 

print ssl.__file__ 



GAE DEV: 
/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/ssl.pyc


Python Interpreter: 
/usr/local/Cellar/python/2.7.13/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/ssl.pyc



They're pointing to different files. How do I fix this? How do I get App 
Engine to use the newer version of OpenSSL that I've installed?

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[google-appengine] Create new app and copy all settings and ndb (via backup) from old app to new app

[Richard Cheesmar]

As per subject is that possible and if so is there a how to out there?

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[google-appengine] Re: App engine deployments with endpoint best practices

['Jordan (Cloud Platform Support)' via Google App Engine]

Google Cloud Endpoints  allows you to 
choose your own framework to configure your API. You specifically chose the 
Open 
API specification 
, but you 
could have alternatively chose to use the provided Google Cloud Java 
Endpoints Framework 
. 

Note, if you require specific technical support for Cloud Endpoints, it is 
suggested to post your technical questions on Stack Overflow 
 using the supported 
Google Cloud tags. 

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Re: [google-appengine] Re: Anyone experiencing the new console log view being a bit busted?

[Emlyn]

They're logs from a Python (standard) AppEngine application.

But today the view has reverted back to how it used to be, everything's
working again. Maybe I was B in an A/B test?

On 14 June 2017 at 00:01, 'George (Cloud Platform Support)' via Google App
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> Hello Emlyn,
>
> This issue seems to manifest itself in particular circumstances, as I can
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> preferably a step-by-step description of the procedure. What types of logs
> are these, for which operations?
>
> All other information you deem relevant will be highly appreciated.
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[google-appengine] Task rate limits?

[Emlyn]

I'm doing a lot with code that enqueues huge amounts of tasks (hundreds of
thousands) in short periods of time (over a couple of minutes). Some tasks
enqueue other tasks, in a fan-out.

I'm 99% sure that I'm hitting some kind of hidden rate limitation from time
to time. The behaviour I'm seeing is that my queue stops processing any
events suddenly, for a few minutes, might be for ten minutes. Then it picks
up and continues like nothing happened.

Is there some kind of rate limit under the covers that I'm hitting?

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