[google-appengine] Re: Still no full-text search? Mystified by the priorities.
I concur, it certainly cut out most blogging/ wiki type uses... Which of course represents a major segment and class of web apps, One would think that the king of search could make this issue go away... On Apr 8, 11:15 am, Jonathan Feinberg e.e.c...@gmail.com wrote: Long ago I attracted a flame-fest when I expressed my opinion that adding support for other programming languages should be given less priority than fixing bugs and adding infrastructural features. Here we are, months later, and the big announcements are 1) Java (my God, why?) and 2) Cron jobs (...but I could already write cron jobs to hit a URL) In the meantime, full-text search is not even on the roadmap. I'm torn. As the creator of Wordle, I'm truly grateful to Google and the GAE team for the use of an automatically-scaling app infrastructure. It has been a pleasure to use. On the other hand, the lack of search has been a huge problem for Wordle users, and I've got no good options. I acknowledge that search is my pet issue; I don't claim to represent a community or interest group with these comments. Then again, I can't think of a CRUD-style app that doesn't require or benefit from text search. So, while I'd consider using GAE in the future for some stateless utility micro-site, or maybe a static site, I won't use it again for anything with user-created data. While I've begun to regret having used it for Wordle, I admit that it's my own fault for not having thought through the implications of having no full-text search available. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: Noobie with google app engine. Need some help.
It is not easy.. 1st you need to get your machine set to use the Google App engine SDK and development server... I put my experience with that here http://tombrander.wordpress.com... then you need to get your current version of the app running there... from other messages I see you have left it seems that you have problems at that point...so get those solved... If you don't have a useful development environment your going to have a long road.. I've found Eclipse with Pydev to be very helpful but it too has a learning curve. I'm currently struggling with Google App engine patch and Django examples but the above steps are how I got that far. FWIW, Finding the files for modifying code within Django is not very easy and my guess id that if you are using the app-engine patch you probably got Django as well,, so looking at that doccumentation might help... Good luck, you may have bitten off too much ?? As I said I'm still struggling... but keeping at it as there seems to be some gold at the end of the rainbow! On Apr 7, 1:50 pm, Aaron shyhockey...@gmail.com wrote: Is their any instant chat room that can help me with google apps engine? On Apr 7, 2:29 pm, Aaron shyhockey...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think he means updating. I was given the website application files. I need to modify and also import my html and css code into this folder on my computer. The problem is when manage.py is in that app folder and when I run it in terminal I get a error sayin g can't find SDK. yet when I move that manage.py file to the google app engine folder It finds the SDK and runs fine well I get also a error saying module contact is missing. So I told the programmer that problem. He told me it needs to stay in that app folder. Then to fix the cannot find SDK error I have to use that path stuff. I wasn't sure if he means to add that as code to manage.py or to type that in the terminal. Or if it was a example of where the path should be. I am not totally sure. I just have to figure this all out quickly. The ceo is very ticked off and really wants it done really soon. He is now asking me when I will be done with making my changes to the site. He already got another project for me. I am not making big bucks but I need some experience on my resume because alot of jobs turned me down because I didn't have industry experience. So this is the only reason I am doing this. I am just getting paid 75 bucks for the first modifications. So I really do need a faster way to understand how to use google engine. I have experience in html, css, php, apache, mysql, microsoft access. I do have experience with python. I don't hever experience with google apps engine. I am not even well experienced with python to work on big software apps. So if you do know php and what I basicly know. I would like someone to explain it in terms what I know saying for like php mysql you would use code like this for python/google apps etc. I wish I had more time where I can look at the guides and take my time learning and experiencing google apps but I don't. the ceo knows I don't have experience with google. I am also the only one doing it cheap for him. Others asked him for 1,500 bucks. SO currently I am stressing out. He wants me to say a deadline but yet I can't really say when I will be finished unless I have control and understand the structure of the google app engine so I would know what to do and work on it quickly. Last night I didn't get to go to bed cause while I am trying to learn this stuff I was also studying for exams for college classes and also had to do a tax problem. So I hope you understand my stress level. I wish I had more time but I don't I normally don't ask alot of questions but since I have limited time I need to know what links I would need so I don't waste any time looking at something that I wouldn't need at all to learn. On Apr 7, 11:18 am, Ray Malone rayish...@gmail.com wrote: Take a look at the documentation for uploading an app herehttp://code.google.com/appengine/docs/python/tools/uploadinganapp.html However, I think you are using the app engine patch and may need this instead. http://code.google.com/p/app-engine-patch/wiki/GettingStarted I don't use the path and don't have experience setting it up, but this should help. On Apr 7, 10:52 am, Aaron shyhockey...@gmail.com wrote: HI, I am very confused on how to use google app engine. I have a job as a vp of technlology. I was a website developer. I only know html,css, php, python. I never heavily used python so I am rusty with it. I only had experience with using apache and mysql. I am new to google application and have been doing research on it. I found it uses a different database system. I already made the website for the company now I need to upload it to google apps and also make
[google-appengine] Re: Noobie with google app engine. Need some help.
If you will stop trying to shortcut the process,, try just getting the sdk running with the supplied tutorial,, the environment is very unlike the normal one shortcuts don't work. The whole model is different, and the same applies to uploading a modified site...again look at my stuff I think I'm just a bit ahead..!! not much but at least have one app up and running at http://tombrander.appspot.com The basic tutorial of how I did it is on the wordpress site. On Apr 7, 3:40 pm, Aaron shyhockey...@gmail.com wrote: ya that is where I am at right now. I am trying to get my computer to a point where I can then focus on getting the site uploaded. I am having problems getting the scripts that the previous coder made and also getting manage.py to see or find SDK of google app engine. I asked the ceo to ask the old programmer about what he meant about path stuff. So currently I followed his directions and put manage.py in the app folder but when I ran it in terminal I get a Cannot find SDK error. I mean it's frustrating. I spent about 3 weeks and I am only getting 75 bucks for this. It took up alot of my time just to download the kit and install it. and do that Django package installation. and other packages. Now after doing that. I took a look at the website files given to me from the previous programmer. I am struggling on getting the development area to have no errors so I can focus on the coding part. I have some experience with python and do know the lango. That's not the problem. I just have to look at how the pervious programmer stored data. I don't have problems with doing the changes to the site and uploading it. I am doing this will going to college full time so I am stressed out. The ceo even calls me at times at midnight asking how far I am on the project. He told me he is getting concern about the project. At the start of the job I was never told I had to use google apps that was unstil I was done with the website addons coded in css and html on my server. I then thought he had a hosting services where I just use a panel to upload the files. Yet I was wrong he tells me he uses google servers. I then was like what? I never knew google does that. I never heard anything about that. I ask him if he was sure it's google. He said he was pretty sure. So I thought that google must have it and would provide a upload cpanel to load in the scripts. So I ask for the login and stuff and he made an account and then contacted the old program to get guided on what to do to make my account. Then he told me I had to download google apps engine. I then knew that this must be something big. I was thinking in my head why would a hosting serivce provider need to give a engine out. So then he told me out flat that I need to know python and know how to use google apps engine. I told I know python but never done anything heavy with it. I never used google apps and don't know where to go. So he said don't worry if you have questions I can ask the old programmer. So this is where we are at. Usally when I ask the ceo to ask something to the old programmer this takes time to get a reply. Cause the old programmer isn't working at this company anymore and I am sure he looks at his e-mail later on in the day. So this going back and forth is costing me time and the ceo is getting impatient. from what I know. I don't have to code anything heavily. I just have to make modifications and that is it. yet still have that error where manage.py dosen't find the SDK of google apps even though google apps is installed on my system. So looks like the manage.py dosen't know where google apps is located for some reason. I don't know if I have to add a path on manage.py to point to where the python script of the SDK is located at? On Apr 7, 3:56 pm, dartdog1 tombran...@gmail.com wrote: It is not easy.. 1st you need to get your machine set to use the Google App engine SDK and development server... I put my experience with that herehttp://tombrander.wordpress.com... then you need to get your current version of the app running there... from other messages I see you have left it seems that you have problems at that point...so get those solved... If you don't have a useful development environment your going to have a long road.. I've found Eclipse with Pydev to be very helpful but it too has a learning curve. I'm currently struggling with Google App engine patch and Django examples but the above steps are how I got that far. FWIW, Finding the files for modifying code within Django is not very easy and my guess id that if you are using the app-engine patch you probably got Django as well,, so looking at that doccumentation might help... Good luck, you may have bitten off too much ?? As I said I'm still struggling... but keeping at it as there seems to be some gold at the end of the rainbow! On Apr 7, 1:50 pm, Aaron
[google-appengine] Re: test server won't work anymore getting errors...
Looks like you changed myapp in settings.py to your app name, change
it back to myapp..I had the same issue, the myapp thing is related to
other things which I have not determined yet!
On Apr 4, 6:18 pm, Aaron shyhockey...@gmail.com wrote:
Now I can't even run the test server anymore.
I get a new error:
Traceback (most recent call last):
File manage.py, line 4, in module
setup_env(manage_py_env=True)
File /home/aaron/websites/Chillenvillen.com/apps/google_app_engine/
google_appengine/common/appenginepatch/aecmd.py, line 63, in
setup_env
patch_all()
File /home/aaron/websites/Chillenvillen.com/apps/google_app_engine/
google_appengine/common/appenginepatch/appenginepatcher/patch.py,
line 21, in patch_all
patch_django()
File /home/aaron/websites/Chillenvillen.com/apps/google_app_engine/
google_appengine/common/appenginepatch/appenginepatcher/patch.py,
line 535, in patch_django
from ragendja import template
File /home/aaron/websites/Chillenvillen.com/apps/google_app_engine/
google_appengine/common/appenginepatch/ragendja/template.py, line 84,
in module
app_template_dirs = get_app_dirs('templates')
File /home/aaron/websites/Chillenvillen.com/apps/google_app_engine/
google_appengine/common/appenginepatch/ragendja/apputils.py, line 38,
in get_app_dirs
for appname, module in get_app_modules().items():
File /home/aaron/websites/Chillenvillen.com/apps/google_app_engine/
google_appengine/common/appenginepatch/ragendja/apputils.py, line 32,
in get_app_modules
if module_name in list_modules(import_module(app)):
File /home/aaron/websites/Chillenvillen.com/apps/google_app_engine/
google_appengine/common/appenginepatch/ragendja/apputils.py, line 5,
in import_module
return __import__(module_name, {}, {}, [''])
ImportError: No module named contact
r...@demonicproductions:/home/aaron/websites/Chillenvillen.com/apps/
google_app_engine/google_appengine# python manage.py runserver
Traceback (most recent call last):
File manage.py, line 4, in module
setup_env(manage_py_env=True)
File /home/aaron/websites/Chillenvillen.com/apps/google_app_engine/
google_appengine/common/appenginepatch/aecmd.py, line 63, in
setup_env
patch_all()
File /home/aaron/websites/Chillenvillen.com/apps/google_app_engine/
google_appengine/common/appenginepatch/appenginepatcher/patch.py,
line 21, in patch_all
patch_django()
File /home/aaron/websites/Chillenvillen.com/apps/google_app_engine/
google_appengine/common/appenginepatch/appenginepatcher/patch.py,
line 535, in patch_django
from ragendja import template
File /home/aaron/websites/Chillenvillen.com/apps/google_app_engine/
google_appengine/common/appenginepatch/ragendja/template.py, line 84,
in module
app_template_dirs = get_app_dirs('templates')
File /home/aaron/websites/Chillenvillen.com/apps/google_app_engine/
google_appengine/common/appenginepatch/ragendja/apputils.py, line 38,
in get_app_dirs
for appname, module in get_app_modules().items():
File /home/aaron/websites/Chillenvillen.com/apps/google_app_engine/
google_appengine/common/appenginepatch/ragendja/apputils.py, line 32,
in get_app_modules
if module_name in list_modules(import_module(app)):
File /home/aaron/websites/Chillenvillen.com/apps/google_app_engine/
google_appengine/common/appenginepatch/ragendja/apputils.py, line 5,
in import_module
return __import__(module_name, {}, {}, [''])
ImportError: No module named contact
that's what the terminal spits out.
I am using linux ubuntu OS.
I have not changed anything. This just happened when I restarted the
test server.
I now got a headache urgh. I been working on this all day today.
I work for a company and this ceo wants it up as soon as possible and
is losing patience.
How do I fix these errors.
I typed in python manage.py runserver.
then I get what I posted above.
Then it dosen't start the test server.
I was able this morning to run the test server just now for some
reason it dosen't allow me.
I didn't change anything. I just restarted the test server 4 times
today and then this happens.
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[google-appengine] Re: GAE and Google Custom Search? (CSE) Is Appspot indexed?
Thanks for the follow up. The site is there, true but no meaningful, content is indexed, The CSE that I'm using is something coded into Bloog and according to the author should work unmodified... But apart from that, When I look at my stats on webmaster it shows the site crawled but no data, (words or phrases). On a separate note the atom.xml got criticized (warning) for having a div tag in it... I'm beginning to think that if I really want to blog on this (forensics) topic I'd better go back to wordpress and continue here just as a tech experiment. On Mar 1, 2:17 pm, Barry Hunter barrybhun...@googlemail.com wrote: That appspot is not indexed at all, is simply not true:http://www.google.com/search?q=inurl:appspot.com In fact you are starting to be indexed and visible.http://www.google.com/search?q=inurl:tombrander.appspot.com IN the 'indexing' tab of the CSE control panel, have you submitted your sitemap.xml for 'on-demand indexing? That might help too. On 01/03/2009, dartdog tombran...@gmail.com wrote: Have a Bloog based Blog set up on appengine with changes to provide Google custom search, as done by Nick Johnson. Mine (search) just does not work, I've uploaded webmaster tools, And sitemap.xml, and now atom.xml but looking at the webmaster console everything is crawled but no terms are Indexed. I thought perhaps I read somewhere that Google was not including anything in the appspot domain? Could that be my problem?? Site is Http://tombrander.appspot.com, If I just register a new domain and point the site /domain would that fix it? I don't really need the domain but I'd like to have search going before putting more effort into the site. -- Barry -www.nearby.org.uk-www.geograph.org.uk- --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: am I the only one seeing only one version of my application in the admin console?
Are you changing the version number in the yaml file before uploading?? On Feb 26, 1:45 pm, Frank fran...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, I am seeing only one version of my application in the 'Versions' menu of the admin console (online), even though of course I am uploading new versions regulary, so I'm starting to wonder if my console has a bug, or am I missing something? Basically there's no way for me to revert to an old version. Thanks for you help Frank --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
