[google-appengine] Re: Google app engine has been down for my app for the last 5 hours
Sorry, I'm just very frustrated at this point. My app has been down for the past 12 hours I would consider myself a major App Engine customer ($1k/mo) , so I'm quite familiar with this platform. At this point, I'm seeing constant datastore timeouts and download errors (I had to move major parts of my index off of app engine and retrieve data via urlfetching of a database hosted on EC2). As I've mentioned before on this forum, I can accept downtime, but there's no evidence of this on the status page, and it's not clear who to contact to resolve this issue other than file a bug that may or may not be investigated. I'm at a loss about what to do. I just tried pushing a new version, no luck. On Nov 22, 2:58 am, Tim Hoffman zutes...@gmail.com wrote: What sort of error are you getting in your logs ? I have half a dozen apps running all without any issues. You may be stuck in a bad patch of hardware or you could have a broken instance, that isn't getting recycled. I don't agree with your general statement about fitness or reliability. Yes appengine has its bad patches but 99% of the time its great. T On Nov 22, 2:26 pm, esilver ericsilverb...@gmail.com wrote: App engine status has reported AOK the whole time. This is ridiculous. This platform is grossly unreliable. This is unfit for web applications of any size or scale. At least be honest onhttp://code.google.com/status/appengine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appeng...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
[google-appengine] Google app engine has been down for my app for the last 5 hours
App engine status has reported AOK the whole time. This is ridiculous. This platform is grossly unreliable. This is unfit for web applications of any size or scale. At least be honest on http://code.google.com/status/appengine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appeng...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
[google-appengine] Re: I can see the number of instances!
+1 What is considered good or bad? I see a bunch of instances with an average of 0.729 QPS (which seems really low) and an average memory footprint of 63MB (also seems low). Maybe I've been brainwashed by the EC2 specs, but would love some guidance on these numbers... On Oct 14, 9:32 pm, nischalshetty nischalshett...@gmail.com wrote: Yayy... I can now see the number ofinstancesmy app is taking in the admin console. But, what do those columns mean and what should the optimum values be for each column? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appeng...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
[google-appengine] Suggestion: Truth in uptime on GAE status page
App Engine Team - If you're reading this, thanks for the recent email. I totally get that sites go up and down, and I'm glad to hear you're working hard to improve things. My #1 request - please be more honest on the app engine status page. Frustration is not that my app is down, it's that my app is down and your page reports 100% uptime, all green checks. I just need to know that *someone* out there in Google knows about the problem and is working on it, and I don't enjoy filing bugs about my app any more than you enjoy processing and closing them. Thanks, Eric -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appeng...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
[google-appengine] Why doesn't App Engine Status reflect the actual uptime of GAE?
Righ now my app is 100% down and has been down now for about 45 minutes, http://appengine.google.com is down for me as well, and yet this page: http://code.google.com/status/appengine Reports all is fine across GAE. What gives? I get that services go up and down, but a little truth in reporting would be appreciated -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appeng...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
[google-appengine] What happens when I access key().id() in a loop - how many DB calls?
Simple performance question -- assuming I have already retrieved object x, a datastore object, how many times will this code query the database: for i in range(0,10): print %d % x.key().id() The answer is either zero (because it's already been looked up by key), one (the first time it calls key().id()), or 10 (why I would not know, that seems really inefficient). Thanks! -Eric -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appeng...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
[google-appengine] Start inserting rows with max_int for key instead of 0
Hi folks, I want to test that my client doesn't suffer from int overflow issues, so I want to start inserting elements beginning at row id 4294967295, instead of beginning at 0. I am happy to hack the app engine code because I just need to run a simple test. If anyone has done this, or can tell me where to look in the GAE codebase, I'd be grateful. Thanks! -Eric -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appeng...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
[google-appengine] Frequently see cannot connect to host when connecting to GAE over ATT 3G
Folks, Lately I am seeing the message cannot connect to host when attempting to connect to multiple sites I run atop GAE. Connections to bigger sites (cnn.com, msnbc.com, google.com) work fine. Do other people see this behavior? Do these larger sites have some kind of colo deal with ATT, such that their traffic is routed while traffic to smaller sites is dropped? My iPhone app runs on GAE and it's frustrating when I see that message. I verified when I try to connect over Safari I see the same cannot connect to host message. Thanks, -Eric -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appeng...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
[google-appengine] Re: @Google: Can't delete two old versions of my app
Google? Can you please help me, or let me know you have filed a bug? On Mar 31, 11:36 pm, esilver ericsilverb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi - This is the same issue as: http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine/browse_thread/thread/... For my app, version v1-03 and v1-10 ofhusbandmaterialappare un- deletable - a server error occurs when I attempt to delete either one of them. The former is more than a month old. Is there any fix for this or do they have to stay around as zombie versions? Thanks, -Eric -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appeng...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
[google-appengine] @Google: Can't delete two old versions of my app
Hi - This is the same issue as: http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine/browse_thread/thread/b22977b26a769028/49817ecfd8a80975?lnk=gstq=server+error+occured+delete#49817ecfd8a80975 For my app, version v1-03 and v1-10 of husbandmaterialapp are un- deletable - a server error occurs when I attempt to delete either one of them. The former is more than a month old. Is there any fix for this or do they have to stay around as zombie versions? Thanks, -Eric -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appeng...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
[google-appengine] Re: Unable to delete an app version in app engine
I too am seeing this same behaviour. I have an undeletable version; every attempt reports A server error occurred. On Feb 18, 9:56 am, Satya mo.sa...@gmail.com wrote: I have 2 versions of my application. Version 1 and Version 2. This is a GWT application and using Datastore. Version 1 is the default and serving. When I tried to delete the Version 2, I got the below message. Server Error A server error has occurred. I tried to delete this version by disabling enabling the application. But of no use. Any idea about what is stopping me from deleting this version? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appeng...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
[google-appengine] Algorithm advice: Help design a twist on the digg scoring model
Hi folks, I have an algorithm question for the group that I've been toying with for awhile and really want to get some fresh thoughts on. It's kind of a twist on the digg scoring model, so I thought it might be interesting for a lot of people on this list. My site is http://www.wordds.com. It's basically like Google Reader + Digg for feature-length articles from magazines. Content is not user- contributed; instead we crawl about a dozen popular magazine sites. Presently the home page lists recent articles, sorted into categories based on word count. The algorithm that scores each article to determine the order they appear on the home page (which is the same as the recent page) sucks. I wrote it so I can say so. I'm constantly dissatisfied and am manually tuning it too much. The key requirement I am trying to satisfy is heterogeneity. I don't want clumps of articles from the same source appearing next to each other in any given word-count bucket. Let's focus on one word count bucket, and say we are loading data from three magazines, A, B, and C, represented by three arrays of articles: [A1, A2, A3], [B1, B2], [C1, C2, C3, C4, C5]. If we are loading these articles at the same time, the proper display order should be: [A1, B1, C1, A2, B2, C2, A3, C3, C4, C5]. Any ordering of A1, B1, and C1 is fine, any ordering of A2, B2, C2 is fine, etc, so we could reasonably have [B1, C1, A1, A2, C2, B2, ...], but we should never have [A1, A2, B1, C1, ...] As we go further out in time, this restriction gets relaxed, such that if we load a new source D a month later, where its array of articles is [D1, D2, D3], it would be acceptable to have [D1, D2, A1, D3, B1, C1, ...] What I've realized is that some magazine sources publish daily/weekly (duh), others publish monthly (duh), and the algorithm I have in place is causing the daily/weekly magazines to rise too fast in my recent results. Therefore, let's say that A publishes daily, B publishes weekly, and C publishes monthly. On day 2, A publishes the following 2 new articles: [A4, A5]. The proper 'recent articles' display order should now be: [A4, B1, C1, A5, B2, C2, A1, C3, ...] There are also source-specific recent pages. Thus, if you filter just on source A, the proper display order is: [A4, A5, A1, A2, A3]. Again, the order of article display for articles loaded at the same time is arbitrary, so [A5, A4, A1, ...] is acceptable too. Back to our 'recent articles' home page: because source B publishes weekly, it should hold its spot as the second article in the list for up to a week. Let's say B gets lazy and doesn't publish (writers strike). A continues its daily schedule, so now it's OK if B starts losing some ground: one display order could be: [A10, A11, C1, A9, B1, C2, ] Notice that C is still holding its positions in the display order because he publishes monthly. Eventually C would refresh and kick out its older articles from the top of the list. And if C didn't refresh it would be slowly replaced by A or other sources that did. * * * I read the article at http://code.google.com/appengine/articles/overheard.html that talks about voting and decay. That works great for my voting code, but not for my recent articles code. Here is my 'recent' scoring algorithm: # wc_bucket is the word count bucket this article is in # wc_bucket_ct is a per-source dictionary created = (now - datetime.datetime(2008, 10, 1)).days if wc_bucket not in wc_bucket_ct: wc_bucket_ct[wc_bucket] = 1 strata = wc_bucket_ct[wc_bucket] wc_bucket_ct[wc_bucket] = strata + 1 rnd = ((settings.DAY_SCALE * 14) / strata) + random.random() # up to a 2-wk boost score = (created * settings.DAY_SCALE) + rnd You can see in this code that I'm breaking up articles into various strata and then adding a random amount to get that heterogeneity. DAY_SCALE is set to 2, meaning each additional day is worth 2 more points. But, this code totally doesn't capture the daily/weekly/ monthly aspect of sources, which I think is a piece of state I will have to manually add. Anyhow, if anyone on this list likes these sorts of algorithmic puzzles and is inclined to propose an elegant solution, I'm all ears. If I haven't explained anything well enough, let me know. And who knows, maybe this would make a good interview question for someone :-) Cheers folks, -Eric --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] New GAE App: Wordds.com - magazine articles optimized for your iPhone, Kindle BlackBerry
Announcing wordds.com: Feature-length magazine articles optimized for your iPhone, Kindle BlackBerry Wordds aggregates feature stories from more than a dozen magazine sources. Stories are organized by word count, so you decide what to read based on how much time you have to spend. Wordds links directly to the printable versions of stories, so it's a single click to load the full article. If you login with your Google account, you may save articles for later reading. Wordds is optimized for all major mobile smartphone platforms and doesn't require any app download or installation. If you ride the bus or subway, or have random downtime during the day, Wordds is a great way to discover in-depth, original content matched to the amount of time you have to read. Google News is for skimming headlines, RSS readers are for short content, and blogs rarely offer anything beyond commentary or re-posted breaking news. Wordds lets you keep up on the magazines you always mean to read but never actually carry. Visit http://www.wordds.com on your iPhone, Android, Kindle, BlackBerry, and laptop. And of course, Wordds.com is hosted on Google App Engine. Questions? Comments? Feedback? Please contact Eric Silverberg at e...@wordds.com Best, -Eric Silverberg Creator, Wordds.com e...@wordds.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
