[google-appengine] App Engine Weekly Community Update #1
*App Engine Weekly Community Update #1* Dear App Engine Community, As discussed on IRC, each week I will bring some news and metrics about the App Engine community activity. Thanks a lot to +Rodrigo Moraes for reviewing this with his sharp journalist eyes. *Highlights* 1.5.2 Release Notes http://googleappengine.blogspot.com/2011/07/app-engine-152-sdk-released.html Postmortem: Java App Engine outage, July 14, 2011 http://googleappengine.blogspot.com/2011/07/postmortem-java-app-engine-outage-july.html Go for App Engine is now generally available http://blog.golang.org/2011/07/go-for-app-engine-is-now-generally.html Tipfy is looking for a new maintainer http://groups.google.com/group/tipfy/browse_thread/thread/1359e76c69e89060 *Hot questions* Flask vs webapp2 for Google App Engine http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6774371/flask-vs-webapp2-for-google-app-engine Bad Performance for Dedupe of 2 million records using mapreduce on Appengine http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6770781/bad-performance-for-dedupe-of-2-million-records-using-mapreduce-on-appengine What is the best way of describing day of week? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6763623/what-is-the-best-way-of-describing-day-of-week *IRC and Hangouts* IRC Office Hours on Wednesday, transcript there: https://groups.google.com/d/topic/google-appengine/ZzUDaN226bU/discussion +Guido van Rossum and +Ikai Lan held community hangouts and posted some followup on Google+: https://plus.google.com/u/1/115212051037621986145/posts/TmU4Sdx7yT3 https://plus.google.com/u/1/107011265359512082824/posts/42G7ZiXkAtR *1:1 with one member of the App Engine team* Who? Sumit Arora aka sumeets@, I'm with the App Engine SRE team What? As SRE, our mission is to balance availability, reliability and performance with agility of our services. Which essentially means: we work on developing and deploying systems that help us measure availability and reliability; monitor outages or degradation of service as well as capacity planning. In addition, we gatekeep all changes going to our production infrastructure, to ensure changes are rolled out without impacting end users Where? I work out of the Sydney Australia Office. When? I've been with this team for about 6 months now. Why? I'm passionate about the cloud computing domain in general... and App Engine represents a pioneer in the that domain, because it gives developers the means to spend their time where it matters the most, i.e. developing applications and not worrying about infrastructure to run it on Emacs or Vi? vi Python, Java or Go? Python and Java In that order. I will use python over java any day mostly because of my sysadmin background. And I’m just getting started with Go. Recommended App Engine framework, library or tool ? Django, without a doubt. Fun thought? I find it very ironic and amusing that every time a smoke detector goes off, the first thing people want to do is fix the smoke detector. There is nothing wrong with it, it's doing what its supposed to be doing... Fix the fire instead! Sadly this is true of monitoring and alerting as well, in large. *Issue tracking* 47 new issues were reported in the public issue tracker: - 31 Defects - 10 Production issues - 6 Feature request - 20 were Acknowledged and still need to be reproduced - 10 have been Accepted and escalated to the Engineer team when necessary - 17 of those issues were not actionable (Invalid, WontFix or Duplicate) 19 issues (including 8 from this week) have been fixed. All the Productions issues backlog (68 issues) has been triaged, and the New queue for Production issue is now empty. *Groups* [appengine-python] 115 messages in 25 threads 64 % of posts answered within 2 days Top Posters: - robert.kluin (9) - proppy (7) - ninjin32 (7) [appengine-java] 177 messages in 51 threads 43% of posts answered within 2 days Top Posters: - ikai (11) - venugopal.vassiredy (6) - durant.didier (4) [appengine] 330 messages in 84 threads 61% of posts answered within 2 days Top Posters: - robert.kluin (20) - proppy (16) - jeff (7) Feedbacks are welcome on this new format, let me know what you are looking forward to see in next week App Engine Community Update. -- Johan Euphrosine (proppy) Developer Programs Engineer Google Developer Relations -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
Re: [google-appengine] App Engine Weekly Community Update #1
61% of posts answered within 2 days 1. I am glad that you are tracking this. 2. That's NOT a good percentage. Since this is your main support channel, this should be 99.995% in 1 day. I'm not kidding. If you want to be in the software business, walk the walk. 3. I'm skeptical about your measurement technique. Answered doesn't mean answered unless the problem is actually resolved. The pattern I usually see is: - I post a question - You ask for some more information - I provide that information - Crickets. My bet is that you are counting that as answered since you responded to the initial question. But it ain't answered in the stack overflow sense of the word. And that sense is all that matters. Let's hope that when you come out of preview and start charging us all that money, you step it up a bit on the support side. I know that customer support has about negative priority at google, so I recognize that it will be a challenge. -Joshua -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
Re: [google-appengine] App Engine Weekly Community Update #1
On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Joshua Smith joshuaesm...@charter.net wrote: Hi Joshua, 61% of posts answered within 2 days 1. I am glad that you are tracking this. I'm glad that you find interest into those metrics. 2. That's NOT a good percentage. Since this is your main support channel, this should be 99.995% in 1 day. I'm not kidding. If you want to be in the software business, walk the walk. The purpose of the groups is for App Engine developer to help each others, as per the group description: Discussion group for Google App Engine. For Python-only dialog, see the Python group, same goes for Java. Also see Downtime Notify for maintenance info. API Gurus: experienced developers who watch this group, answering questions providing valuable feedback: Geoffrey (Wooble) Spear Robert Kluin And the purpose of this metrics was to measure level of engagement and reactivity of the community as a whole (not only Googler) in the different threads. 3. I'm skeptical about your measurement technique. Answered doesn't mean answered unless the problem is actually resolved. The pattern I usually see is: - I post a question - You ask for some more information - I provide that information - Crickets. My bet is that you are counting that as answered since you responded to the initial question. But it ain't answered in the stack overflow sense of the word. And that sense is all that matters. I'd love to track the actual resolution of questions but we miss metadata to check if a question has been answered. Maybe we (as the community) can agree on some convention were we use nickname++ people as a signal of the question of the current thread being answered, or we (community) can decide to shift those question to Stack Overflow and keep the group for more casual discussion. I'd love to hear what others think about that. Let's hope that when you come out of preview and start charging us all that money, you step it up a bit on the support side. I know that customer support has about negative priority at google, so I recognize that it will be a challenge. If you take a look a the new pricing model we announced: http://www.google.com/enterprise/cloud/appengine/pricing.html You will notice that we mention SLA and Operational support for Paid and Premium app, which is a strong indicator that we are serious about this. -- Johan Euphrosine (proppy) Developer Programs Engineer Google Developer Relations -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
Re: [google-appengine] App Engine Weekly Community Update #1
This is a really great summary, a nice service Johan. Thank you for taking the time. I missed the IRC discussion. I'm sure one of the things discussed there was something about the best way to publish this. Obviously this group is a must. I'm trying to figure out a way where I can get this topic Weekly Community Update in email or rss. Anyone have any ideas? -- Jay -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/-/N5ej2Ri4YiUJ. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
Re: [google-appengine] App Engine Weekly Community Update #1
Hi Jay, This was also posted on Google Plus: https://plus.google.com/111042085517496880918/posts/exjJoZwygq1 Until there're brand pages on g+, and then the weekly update could be posted on a 'App Engine' profile, you can follow Johan using the link above. -- rodrigo -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/-/lBsHKUaKDiUJ. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
Re: [google-appengine] App Engine Weekly Community Update #1
Maybe a Google Alert for site:groups.google.com/group/google-appengine/ intitle:App Engine Weekly Community Update http://www.google.com/alerts/ On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 5:30 PM, Jay jbaker.w...@gmail.com wrote: This is a really great summary, a nice service Johan. Thank you for taking the time. I missed the IRC discussion. I'm sure one of the things discussed there was something about the best way to publish this. Obviously this group is a must. I'm trying to figure out a way where I can get this topic Weekly Community Update in email or rss. Anyone have any ideas? -- Jay -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/-/N5ej2Ri4YiUJ. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
