Re: [google-appengine] App Engine Weekly Community Update #11
Added you as an author of the doc, so you get notification when there is new comments. Feel free to remove yourself if this is too spammy. On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 12:45 PM, Jeff Schnitzer j...@infohazard.orgwrote: I've made some (rough) updates. Jeff On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 12:25 PM, Johan Euphrosine pro...@google.com wrote: This should now be fixed, let me know if it works. On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 8:09 PM, Jeff Schnitzer j...@infohazard.org wrote: I can't seem to edit or comment in any way. Jeff On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 8:18 AM, Johan Euphrosine pro...@google.com wrote: Hi, Thanks a lot both for your feedback, I think this topic deserve a proper article covering all the view / technique about caching, based on what you said I started to draft one here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/16OEn3-7pWBv6PopKjk9Onk9cF1B0PtOQcyDd3q6YAc0/edit?hl=en_US Feel free to contribute or add comments. On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 12:35 AM, Brandon Wirtz drak...@digerat.com wrote: It also doesn't talk about using Instance memory, which is a HUGE part of my caching strategy. Even from a beginners guide I'm not sure this is an article I would promote, I think more people will be unhappy with this solution than will benefit from it. -Original Message- From: google-appengine@googlegroups.com [mailto:google-appengine@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Schnitzer Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2011 2:21 PM To: google-appengine@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [google-appengine] App Engine Weekly Community Update #11 On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 5:16 AM, Johan Euphrosine pro...@google.com wrote: Nice Article about caching strategies for App Engine apps by +Chris Bunch http://www.byzantinereality.com/2011/8/Two-Caching-Strategies-for-App- Engine-apps That page doesn't seem to allow comments, so I'll have to rant here: This caching strategy is a terrible idea. Trust me, it's taken a long time to work out the kinks in Objectify's transparent memcache. This caching strategy will go out of sync under contention. You need to use CAS operations to avoid race conditions. Jeff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- Johan Euphrosine (proppy) Developer Programs Engineer Google Developer Relations -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- Johan Euphrosine (proppy) Developer Programs Engineer Google Developer Relations -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- Johan Euphrosine (proppy) Developer Programs Engineer Google Developer Relations -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email
Re: [google-appengine] App Engine Weekly Community Update #11
I've made some (rough) updates. Jeff On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 12:25 PM, Johan Euphrosine pro...@google.com wrote: This should now be fixed, let me know if it works. On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 8:09 PM, Jeff Schnitzer j...@infohazard.org wrote: I can't seem to edit or comment in any way. Jeff On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 8:18 AM, Johan Euphrosine pro...@google.com wrote: Hi, Thanks a lot both for your feedback, I think this topic deserve a proper article covering all the view / technique about caching, based on what you said I started to draft one here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/16OEn3-7pWBv6PopKjk9Onk9cF1B0PtOQcyDd3q6YAc0/edit?hl=en_US Feel free to contribute or add comments. On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 12:35 AM, Brandon Wirtz drak...@digerat.com wrote: It also doesn't talk about using Instance memory, which is a HUGE part of my caching strategy. Even from a beginners guide I'm not sure this is an article I would promote, I think more people will be unhappy with this solution than will benefit from it. -Original Message- From: google-appengine@googlegroups.com [mailto:google-appengine@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Schnitzer Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2011 2:21 PM To: google-appengine@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [google-appengine] App Engine Weekly Community Update #11 On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 5:16 AM, Johan Euphrosine pro...@google.com wrote: Nice Article about caching strategies for App Engine apps by +Chris Bunch http://www.byzantinereality.com/2011/8/Two-Caching-Strategies-for-App- Engine-apps That page doesn't seem to allow comments, so I'll have to rant here: This caching strategy is a terrible idea. Trust me, it's taken a long time to work out the kinks in Objectify's transparent memcache. This caching strategy will go out of sync under contention. You need to use CAS operations to avoid race conditions. Jeff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- Johan Euphrosine (proppy) Developer Programs Engineer Google Developer Relations -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- Johan Euphrosine (proppy) Developer Programs Engineer Google Developer Relations -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
Re: [google-appengine] App Engine Weekly Community Update #11
Hi, Thanks a lot both for your feedback, I think this topic deserve a proper article covering all the view / technique about caching, based on what you said I started to draft one here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/16OEn3-7pWBv6PopKjk9Onk9cF1B0PtOQcyDd3q6YAc0/edit?hl=en_US Feel free to contribute or add comments. On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 12:35 AM, Brandon Wirtz drak...@digerat.com wrote: It also doesn't talk about using Instance memory, which is a HUGE part of my caching strategy. Even from a beginners guide I'm not sure this is an article I would promote, I think more people will be unhappy with this solution than will benefit from it. -Original Message- From: google-appengine@googlegroups.com [mailto:google-appengine@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Schnitzer Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2011 2:21 PM To: google-appengine@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [google-appengine] App Engine Weekly Community Update #11 On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 5:16 AM, Johan Euphrosine pro...@google.com wrote: Nice Article about caching strategies for App Engine apps by +Chris Bunch http://www.byzantinereality.com/2011/8/Two-Caching-Strategies-for-App- Engine-apps That page doesn't seem to allow comments, so I'll have to rant here: This caching strategy is a terrible idea. Trust me, it's taken a long time to work out the kinks in Objectify's transparent memcache. This caching strategy will go out of sync under contention. You need to use CAS operations to avoid race conditions. Jeff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- Johan Euphrosine (proppy) Developer Programs Engineer Google Developer Relations -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
Re: [google-appengine] App Engine Weekly Community Update #11
I can't seem to edit or comment in any way. Jeff On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 8:18 AM, Johan Euphrosine pro...@google.com wrote: Hi, Thanks a lot both for your feedback, I think this topic deserve a proper article covering all the view / technique about caching, based on what you said I started to draft one here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/16OEn3-7pWBv6PopKjk9Onk9cF1B0PtOQcyDd3q6YAc0/edit?hl=en_US Feel free to contribute or add comments. On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 12:35 AM, Brandon Wirtz drak...@digerat.com wrote: It also doesn't talk about using Instance memory, which is a HUGE part of my caching strategy. Even from a beginners guide I'm not sure this is an article I would promote, I think more people will be unhappy with this solution than will benefit from it. -Original Message- From: google-appengine@googlegroups.com [mailto:google-appengine@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Schnitzer Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2011 2:21 PM To: google-appengine@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [google-appengine] App Engine Weekly Community Update #11 On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 5:16 AM, Johan Euphrosine pro...@google.com wrote: Nice Article about caching strategies for App Engine apps by +Chris Bunch http://www.byzantinereality.com/2011/8/Two-Caching-Strategies-for-App- Engine-apps That page doesn't seem to allow comments, so I'll have to rant here: This caching strategy is a terrible idea. Trust me, it's taken a long time to work out the kinks in Objectify's transparent memcache. This caching strategy will go out of sync under contention. You need to use CAS operations to avoid race conditions. Jeff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- Johan Euphrosine (proppy) Developer Programs Engineer Google Developer Relations -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
Re: [google-appengine] App Engine Weekly Community Update #11
This should now be fixed, let me know if it works. On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 8:09 PM, Jeff Schnitzer j...@infohazard.org wrote: I can't seem to edit or comment in any way. Jeff On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 8:18 AM, Johan Euphrosine pro...@google.com wrote: Hi, Thanks a lot both for your feedback, I think this topic deserve a proper article covering all the view / technique about caching, based on what you said I started to draft one here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/16OEn3-7pWBv6PopKjk9Onk9cF1B0PtOQcyDd3q6YAc0/edit?hl=en_US Feel free to contribute or add comments. On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 12:35 AM, Brandon Wirtz drak...@digerat.com wrote: It also doesn't talk about using Instance memory, which is a HUGE part of my caching strategy. Even from a beginners guide I'm not sure this is an article I would promote, I think more people will be unhappy with this solution than will benefit from it. -Original Message- From: google-appengine@googlegroups.com [mailto:google-appengine@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Schnitzer Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2011 2:21 PM To: google-appengine@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [google-appengine] App Engine Weekly Community Update #11 On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 5:16 AM, Johan Euphrosine pro...@google.com wrote: Nice Article about caching strategies for App Engine apps by +Chris Bunch http://www.byzantinereality.com/2011/8/Two-Caching-Strategies-for-App- Engine-apps That page doesn't seem to allow comments, so I'll have to rant here: This caching strategy is a terrible idea. Trust me, it's taken a long time to work out the kinks in Objectify's transparent memcache. This caching strategy will go out of sync under contention. You need to use CAS operations to avoid race conditions. Jeff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- Johan Euphrosine (proppy) Developer Programs Engineer Google Developer Relations -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- Johan Euphrosine (proppy) Developer Programs Engineer Google Developer Relations -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
[google-appengine] App Engine Weekly Community Update #11
Dear App Engine Community, Each week we bring you some news and metrics about the App Engine community. *Highlights* Google Cloud SQL announced http://googleappengine.blogspot.com/2011/10/google-cloud-sql-your-database-in-cloud.html Nice Article about caching strategies for App Engine apps by +Chris Bunchhttps://plus.google.com/100232598840877422187 http://www.byzantinereality.com/2011/8/Two-Caching-Strategies-for-App-Engine-apps +Tim Bray https://plus.google.com/107606703558161507946 published Android App Engine Client http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2011/09/29/AERC AppEngine Prerelease SDK 1.5.5 published https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/google-appengine/f9YVplAlRs4 App Engine NDB 0.8 released by +Guido van Rossumhttps://plus.google.com/115212051037621986145 http://code.google.com/p/appengine-ndb-experiment/downloads/detail?name=appengine-ndb-experiment-0.8.zip +Emlyn O'Regan https://plus.google.com/100281903174934656260 started a blog about professional App Engine development: http://appenginedevelopment.blogspot.com/ *Google+* 1:1 with a member of the App Engine team +Mike Conleyhttps://plus.google.com/115988318295715199267 https://plus.google.com/111042085517496880918/posts/bf4v58emiXP Creating and deploying a django application using the App Engine Python 2.7 runtime by +Brian Quinlan https://plus.google.com/111039891542127786416 https://plus.google.com/111039891542127786416/posts/R2YUp6rawa6 Logging JS client side errors to Google App Engine by +Pamela Foxhttps://plus.google.com/104906919451670502090 https://plus.google.com/104906919451670502090/posts/7fMD9s3Z43D *Stack Overflow* 70 Questions asked this week http://stackoverflow.com/tags/google-app-engine/topusers *Issue tracking* Weekly triaging: 58 new issues were reported in the public issue tracker: - 13 Production issues (3 Fixed, 1 Escalated, 1 Triaged, 2 Rejected, 6 New) - 28 Defects (0 Fixed, 2 Escalated, 3 Triaged, 3 Rejected, 20 New) - 17 Feature requests (0 Fixed, 1 Escalated, 5 Triaged, 1 Rejected, 10 New) Overall stats: 6056 issues (5852 commented by Googlers) 2644 open issues (94 New, 2228 Triaged, 322 Escalated) 3279 closed issues (1288 Fixed, 1991 Rejected) *Groups* Weekly stats: [appengine] 367 messages in 74 threads 59% of threads replied within 2 days Top contribution: drakaal@.. 12 threads posted in. tapir.liu@.. 12 knott.sim.. 9 [appengine-python] 129 messages in 30 threads 60% of threads replied within 2 days Top contributions: shedokan.. 8 threads posted in. roberto.cr.. 4 peterretie.. 4 [appengine-java] 140 messages in 37 threads 43% of threads replied within 2 days Top contributions: woefulwa.. 7 threads posted in. ikai.l@go.. 6 nichole.ki.. 5 [appengine-go] 46 messages in 9 threads 78% of threads replied within 2 days Top contributions: dsymond.. 6 threads posted in. ugorji@g.. 4 calvin.pre.. 4 *Feedbacks are welcome on this format, let me know what you are looking forward to see in next week App Engine Community Update.* -- Johan Euphrosine (proppy) Developer Programs Engineer Google Developer Relations -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
Re: [google-appengine] App Engine Weekly Community Update #11
On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 5:16 AM, Johan Euphrosine pro...@google.com wrote: Nice Article about caching strategies for App Engine apps by +Chris Bunch http://www.byzantinereality.com/2011/8/Two-Caching-Strategies-for-App-Engine-apps That page doesn't seem to allow comments, so I'll have to rant here: This caching strategy is a terrible idea. Trust me, it's taken a long time to work out the kinks in Objectify's transparent memcache. This caching strategy will go out of sync under contention. You need to use CAS operations to avoid race conditions. Jeff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
RE: [google-appengine] App Engine Weekly Community Update #11
It also doesn't talk about using Instance memory, which is a HUGE part of my caching strategy. Even from a beginners guide I'm not sure this is an article I would promote, I think more people will be unhappy with this solution than will benefit from it. -Original Message- From: google-appengine@googlegroups.com [mailto:google-appengine@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Schnitzer Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2011 2:21 PM To: google-appengine@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [google-appengine] App Engine Weekly Community Update #11 On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 5:16 AM, Johan Euphrosine pro...@google.com wrote: Nice Article about caching strategies for App Engine apps by +Chris Bunch http://www.byzantinereality.com/2011/8/Two-Caching-Strategies-for-App- Engine-apps That page doesn't seem to allow comments, so I'll have to rant here: This caching strategy is a terrible idea. Trust me, it's taken a long time to work out the kinks in Objectify's transparent memcache. This caching strategy will go out of sync under contention. You need to use CAS operations to avoid race conditions. Jeff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
