Re: [google-appengine] Python27 + new dev_appservery.py + debugging

2014-03-05 Thread Cezary Wagner
Let's finish this unpractical talk - your arguments are hell quality.

With Eclipse I can see whole obejct with one click and hover - forward with 
one key.

With PDB - http://docs.python.org/2/library/pdb.html
1. I need put not need code to code - import pdb; pdb.set_trace()
2. Get variable value _ print x
3.1. Get next variable value - print x.
3. Remember to remove - import pdb; pdb.set_trace()
4. after each -  import pdb; pdb.set_trace() I need continue (F8! in 
Eclipse)

You proposing hell like a devil :)



W dniu poniedziałek, 3 marca 2014 22:53:06 UTC+1 użytkownik D X napisał:

 From my experience, stepping through code is much slower on eclipse than 
 pdb.

 I disagree with your other comments; pdb is fine for professional use on 
 huge projects.





 On Sunday, March 2, 2014 3:57:22 PM UTC-8, Cezary Wagner wrote:

 I found some combo like Pydev 3.3.3 + Eclipse 3.8.x (but no Django 
 templates support or Aptana!).

 It allow fast debugging with little slower coding.

 W dniu poniedziałek, 3 marca 2014 00:49:14 UTC+1 użytkownik Cezary Wagner 
 napisał:

 Thanks for hints - it is not helpful.

 Discussion is very old and there is not clear conclusion

 In my opinion pdb is good for hobbists - placing break points by editing 
 code it is good for 100 lines programs or amateurs - sadomacho :)

 It looks that I can not use dart, endpoints because there is no usable 
 debugger for it :)

 W dniu niedziela, 2 marca 2014 17:50:44 UTC+1 użytkownik Vinny P napisał:

 On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 9:59 AM, Cezary Wagner cezary...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 What is the best tools to use dev_appserver.py with breakpoint and 
 debugging - what is the best choice.




 Hi Cezary,

 You might want to read this forums discussion here: 
 https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/google-appengine/ep5BWYKpQpU - 
 there's an interesting discussion on Python debugging with the 
 dev_appserver.

 If you're OK with debugging using pdb, you'll want to read this message 
 in particular: 
 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/ep5BWYKpQpU/41asdxKhuycJ
   
  
 -
 -Vinny P
 Technology  Media Advisor
 Chicago, IL

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Re: [google-appengine] Python27 + new dev_appservery.py + debugging

2014-03-05 Thread Cezary Wagner
Pdb is hell - you waste time and money.

In the most case simple debugger is enough and some assert use.

W dniu wtorek, 4 marca 2014 04:01:57 UTC+1 użytkownik timh napisał:

 +1  I have worked on numersous projects with very large code bases on 
 appengine, and I prefer pdb, and don't use Eclipse.

 On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 5:53:06 AM UTC+8, D X wrote:

 From my experience, stepping through code is much slower on eclipse than 
 pdb.

 I disagree with your other comments; pdb is fine for professional use on 
 huge projects.





 On Sunday, March 2, 2014 3:57:22 PM UTC-8, Cezary Wagner wrote:

 I found some combo like Pydev 3.3.3 + Eclipse 3.8.x (but no Django 
 templates support or Aptana!).

 It allow fast debugging with little slower coding.

 W dniu poniedziałek, 3 marca 2014 00:49:14 UTC+1 użytkownik Cezary 
 Wagner napisał:

 Thanks for hints - it is not helpful.

 Discussion is very old and there is not clear conclusion

 In my opinion pdb is good for hobbists - placing break points by 
 editing code it is good for 100 lines programs or amateurs - sadomacho :)

 It looks that I can not use dart, endpoints because there is no usable 
 debugger for it :)

 W dniu niedziela, 2 marca 2014 17:50:44 UTC+1 użytkownik Vinny P 
 napisał:

 On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 9:59 AM, Cezary Wagner cezary...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 What is the best tools to use dev_appserver.py with breakpoint and 
 debugging - what is the best choice.




 Hi Cezary,

 You might want to read this forums discussion here: 
 https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/google-appengine/ep5BWYKpQpU- 
 there's an interesting discussion on Python debugging with the 
 dev_appserver.

 If you're OK with debugging using pdb, you'll want to read this 
 message in particular: 
 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/ep5BWYKpQpU/41asdxKhuycJ
   
  
 -
 -Vinny P
 Technology  Media Advisor
 Chicago, IL

 App Engine Code Samples: http://www.learntogoogleit.com
  


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Re: [google-appengine] Python27 + new dev_appservery.py + debugging

2014-03-05 Thread Cezary Wagner
Thanks for helpful hint I try to check it.

W dniu wtorek, 4 marca 2014 16:59:06 UTC+1 użytkownik Doug Anderson napisał:

 I've been using PyCharm and am very pleased with it.  I've also used 
 JetBrains' WebStorm with node.js projects and was quite pleased with that 
 as well.

 On Sunday, March 2, 2014 6:49:14 PM UTC-5, Cezary Wagner wrote:

 Thanks for hints - it is not helpful.

 Discussion is very old and there is not clear conclusion

 In my opinion pdb is good for hobbists - placing break points by editing 
 code it is good for 100 lines programs or amateurs - sadomacho :)

 It looks that I can not use dart, endpoints because there is no usable 
 debugger for it :)

 W dniu niedziela, 2 marca 2014 17:50:44 UTC+1 użytkownik Vinny P napisał:

 On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 9:59 AM, Cezary Wagner cezary...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 What is the best tools to use dev_appserver.py with breakpoint and 
 debugging - what is the best choice.




 Hi Cezary,

 You might want to read this forums discussion here: 
 https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/google-appengine/ep5BWYKpQpU - 
 there's an interesting discussion on Python debugging with the 
 dev_appserver.

 If you're OK with debugging using pdb, you'll want to read this message 
 in particular: 
 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/ep5BWYKpQpU/41asdxKhuycJ
   
  
 -
 -Vinny P
 Technology  Media Advisor
 Chicago, IL

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Re: [google-appengine] Python27 + new dev_appservery.py + debugging

2014-03-05 Thread Cezary Wagner
Debugging is for troubleshooting.

You should never avoid unit testing, logging, assert, exception if you have 
debugger - since debugger is not testing tools. I am not avoiding too bu 
need fast debugger - mean spend less time on this.

W dniu wtorek, 4 marca 2014 17:16:35 UTC+1 użytkownik PK napisał:

 What version of pycharm do you use? My experience is that development 
 slows down enough to avoid it. If there were an option to attach to a 
 running instance when I really want to track something down I might use it 
 once in a while. I am still looking for a solution that does not slow down 
 the Dev. Cycle; I would love a how to blog if somebody mastered that. 

 On the upside, not using a debugger has forced me to add many debug log 
 messages that prove useful in troubleshooting in production. 

 PK
 www.gae123.com

 On Mar 4, 2014, at 7:59 AM, Doug Anderson do...@claystreet.comjavascript: 
 wrote:

 I've been using PyCharm and am very pleased with it.  I've also used 
 JetBrains' WebStorm with node.js projects and was quite pleased with that 
 as well.

 On Sunday, March 2, 2014 6:49:14 PM UTC-5, Cezary Wagner wrote:

 Thanks for hints - it is not helpful.

 Discussion is very old and there is not clear conclusion

 In my opinion pdb is good for hobbists - placing break points by editing 
 code it is good for 100 lines programs or amateurs - sadomacho :)

 It looks that I can not use dart, endpoints because there is no usable 
 debugger for it :)

 W dniu niedziela, 2 marca 2014 17:50:44 UTC+1 użytkownik Vinny P napisał:

 On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 9:59 AM, Cezary Wagner cezary...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 What is the best tools to use dev_appserver.py with breakpoint and 
 debugging - what is the best choice.




 Hi Cezary,

 You might want to read this forums discussion here: 
 https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/google-appengine/ep5BWYKpQpU - 
 there's an interesting discussion on Python debugging with the 
 dev_appserver.

 If you're OK with debugging using pdb, you'll want to read this message 
 in particular: 
 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/ep5BWYKpQpU/41asdxKhuycJ
   
  
 -
 -Vinny P
 Technology  Media Advisor
 Chicago, IL

 App Engine Code Samples: http://www.learntogoogleit.com
  
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Re: [google-appengine] Python27 + new dev_appservery.py + debugging

2014-03-05 Thread Cezary Wagner
I completly disagree that pdb is the best solution for any size project. I 
was explained in my first response and will not change mind since tested it.

Pdb can be only the best for really hardcore debugging - I think that the 
most developers will never meet. It is waste of time and money to use it 
for simple debugging.

Tell me can I debug in pdb with one click or forward with one key?

W dniu środa, 5 marca 2014 01:21:53 UTC+1 użytkownik Vinny P napisał:

 On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 5:49 PM, Cezary Wagner 
 cezary...@gmail.comjavascript:
  wrote:

 In my opinion pdb is good for hobbists



 PDB is perfectly fine for use with any size projects. 

 The choice of a debugger is - of course - largely a personal preference, 
 but I'd urge you to give pdb a second chance.
   
  
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 Technology  Media Advisor
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Re: [google-appengine] Python27 + new dev_appservery.py + debugging

2014-03-05 Thread Cezary Wagner
Why you prefer pdb - can you debug basic problems with one/two clicks + 
forward in pdb?

W dniu wtorek, 4 marca 2014 04:01:57 UTC+1 użytkownik timh napisał:

 +1  I have worked on numersous projects with very large code bases on 
 appengine, and I prefer pdb, and don't use Eclipse.

 On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 5:53:06 AM UTC+8, D X wrote:

 From my experience, stepping through code is much slower on eclipse than 
 pdb.

 I disagree with your other comments; pdb is fine for professional use on 
 huge projects.





 On Sunday, March 2, 2014 3:57:22 PM UTC-8, Cezary Wagner wrote:

 I found some combo like Pydev 3.3.3 + Eclipse 3.8.x (but no Django 
 templates support or Aptana!).

 It allow fast debugging with little slower coding.

 W dniu poniedziałek, 3 marca 2014 00:49:14 UTC+1 użytkownik Cezary 
 Wagner napisał:

 Thanks for hints - it is not helpful.

 Discussion is very old and there is not clear conclusion

 In my opinion pdb is good for hobbists - placing break points by 
 editing code it is good for 100 lines programs or amateurs - sadomacho :)

 It looks that I can not use dart, endpoints because there is no usable 
 debugger for it :)

 W dniu niedziela, 2 marca 2014 17:50:44 UTC+1 użytkownik Vinny P 
 napisał:

 On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 9:59 AM, Cezary Wagner cezary...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 What is the best tools to use dev_appserver.py with breakpoint and 
 debugging - what is the best choice.




 Hi Cezary,

 You might want to read this forums discussion here: 
 https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/google-appengine/ep5BWYKpQpU- 
 there's an interesting discussion on Python debugging with the 
 dev_appserver.

 If you're OK with debugging using pdb, you'll want to read this 
 message in particular: 
 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/ep5BWYKpQpU/41asdxKhuycJ
   
  
 -
 -Vinny P
 Technology  Media Advisor
 Chicago, IL

 App Engine Code Samples: http://www.learntogoogleit.com
  


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Re: [google-appengine] Python27 + new dev_appservery.py + debugging

2014-03-04 Thread Doug Anderson
I've been using PyCharm and am very pleased with it.  I've also used 
JetBrains' WebStorm with node.js projects and was quite pleased with that 
as well.

On Sunday, March 2, 2014 6:49:14 PM UTC-5, Cezary Wagner wrote:

 Thanks for hints - it is not helpful.

 Discussion is very old and there is not clear conclusion

 In my opinion pdb is good for hobbists - placing break points by editing 
 code it is good for 100 lines programs or amateurs - sadomacho :)

 It looks that I can not use dart, endpoints because there is no usable 
 debugger for it :)

 W dniu niedziela, 2 marca 2014 17:50:44 UTC+1 użytkownik Vinny P napisał:

 On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 9:59 AM, Cezary Wagner cezary...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 What is the best tools to use dev_appserver.py with breakpoint and 
 debugging - what is the best choice.




 Hi Cezary,

 You might want to read this forums discussion here: 
 https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/google-appengine/ep5BWYKpQpU - 
 there's an interesting discussion on Python debugging with the 
 dev_appserver.

 If you're OK with debugging using pdb, you'll want to read this message 
 in particular: 
 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/ep5BWYKpQpU/41asdxKhuycJ
   
  
 -
 -Vinny P
 Technology  Media Advisor
 Chicago, IL

 App Engine Code Samples: http://www.learntogoogleit.com
  


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Re: [google-appengine] Python27 + new dev_appservery.py + debugging

2014-03-04 Thread PK
What version of pycharm do you use? My experience is that development slows 
down enough to avoid it. If there were an option to attach to a running 
instance when I really want to track something down I might use it once in a 
while. I am still looking for a solution that does not slow down the Dev. 
Cycle; I would love a how to blog if somebody mastered that. 

On the upside, not using a debugger has forced me to add many debug log 
messages that prove useful in troubleshooting in production. 

PK
www.gae123.com

 On Mar 4, 2014, at 7:59 AM, Doug Anderson d...@claystreet.com wrote:
 
 I've been using PyCharm and am very pleased with it.  I've also used 
 JetBrains' WebStorm with node.js projects and was quite pleased with that as 
 well.
 
 On Sunday, March 2, 2014 6:49:14 PM UTC-5, Cezary Wagner wrote:
 Thanks for hints - it is not helpful.
 
 Discussion is very old and there is not clear conclusion
 
 In my opinion pdb is good for hobbists - placing break points by editing 
 code it is good for 100 lines programs or amateurs - sadomacho :)
 
 It looks that I can not use dart, endpoints because there is no usable 
 debugger for it :)
 
 W dniu niedziela, 2 marca 2014 17:50:44 UTC+1 użytkownik Vinny P napisał:
 
 On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 9:59 AM, Cezary Wagner cezary...@gmail.com wrote:
 What is the best tools to use dev_appserver.py with breakpoint and 
 debugging - what is the best choice.
 
 
 
 Hi Cezary,
 
 You might want to read this forums discussion here: 
 https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/google-appengine/ep5BWYKpQpU - 
 there's an interesting discussion on Python debugging with the 
 dev_appserver.
 
 If you're OK with debugging using pdb, you'll want to read this message in 
 particular: 
 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/ep5BWYKpQpU/41asdxKhuycJ
  
  
 -
 -Vinny P
 Technology  Media Advisor
 Chicago, IL
 
 App Engine Code Samples: http://www.learntogoogleit.com
 
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Re: [google-appengine] Python27 + new dev_appservery.py + debugging

2014-03-04 Thread Vinny P
On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 5:49 PM, Cezary Wagner cezary.wag...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 In my opinion pdb is good for hobbists



PDB is perfectly fine for use with any size projects.

The choice of a debugger is - of course - largely a personal preference,
but I'd urge you to give pdb a second chance.


-
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Technology  Media Advisor
Chicago, IL

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Re: [google-appengine] Python27 + new dev_appservery.py + debugging

2014-03-03 Thread D X
From my experience, stepping through code is much slower on eclipse than 
pdb.

I disagree with your other comments; pdb is fine for professional use on 
huge projects.





On Sunday, March 2, 2014 3:57:22 PM UTC-8, Cezary Wagner wrote:

 I found some combo like Pydev 3.3.3 + Eclipse 3.8.x (but no Django 
 templates support or Aptana!).

 It allow fast debugging with little slower coding.

 W dniu poniedziałek, 3 marca 2014 00:49:14 UTC+1 użytkownik Cezary Wagner 
 napisał:

 Thanks for hints - it is not helpful.

 Discussion is very old and there is not clear conclusion

 In my opinion pdb is good for hobbists - placing break points by editing 
 code it is good for 100 lines programs or amateurs - sadomacho :)

 It looks that I can not use dart, endpoints because there is no usable 
 debugger for it :)

 W dniu niedziela, 2 marca 2014 17:50:44 UTC+1 użytkownik Vinny P napisał:

 On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 9:59 AM, Cezary Wagner cezary...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 What is the best tools to use dev_appserver.py with breakpoint and 
 debugging - what is the best choice.




 Hi Cezary,

 You might want to read this forums discussion here: 
 https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/google-appengine/ep5BWYKpQpU - 
 there's an interesting discussion on Python debugging with the 
 dev_appserver.

 If you're OK with debugging using pdb, you'll want to read this message 
 in particular: 
 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/ep5BWYKpQpU/41asdxKhuycJ
   
  
 -
 -Vinny P
 Technology  Media Advisor
 Chicago, IL

 App Engine Code Samples: http://www.learntogoogleit.com
  


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Re: [google-appengine] Python27 + new dev_appservery.py + debugging

2014-03-03 Thread timh
+1  I have worked on numersous projects with very large code bases on 
appengine, and I prefer pdb, and don't use Eclipse.

On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 5:53:06 AM UTC+8, D X wrote:

 From my experience, stepping through code is much slower on eclipse than 
 pdb.

 I disagree with your other comments; pdb is fine for professional use on 
 huge projects.





 On Sunday, March 2, 2014 3:57:22 PM UTC-8, Cezary Wagner wrote:

 I found some combo like Pydev 3.3.3 + Eclipse 3.8.x (but no Django 
 templates support or Aptana!).

 It allow fast debugging with little slower coding.

 W dniu poniedziałek, 3 marca 2014 00:49:14 UTC+1 użytkownik Cezary Wagner 
 napisał:

 Thanks for hints - it is not helpful.

 Discussion is very old and there is not clear conclusion

 In my opinion pdb is good for hobbists - placing break points by editing 
 code it is good for 100 lines programs or amateurs - sadomacho :)

 It looks that I can not use dart, endpoints because there is no usable 
 debugger for it :)

 W dniu niedziela, 2 marca 2014 17:50:44 UTC+1 użytkownik Vinny P napisał:

 On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 9:59 AM, Cezary Wagner cezary...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 What is the best tools to use dev_appserver.py with breakpoint and 
 debugging - what is the best choice.




 Hi Cezary,

 You might want to read this forums discussion here: 
 https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/google-appengine/ep5BWYKpQpU - 
 there's an interesting discussion on Python debugging with the 
 dev_appserver.

 If you're OK with debugging using pdb, you'll want to read this message 
 in particular: 
 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/ep5BWYKpQpU/41asdxKhuycJ
   
  
 -
 -Vinny P
 Technology  Media Advisor
 Chicago, IL

 App Engine Code Samples: http://www.learntogoogleit.com
  


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Re: [google-appengine] Python27 + new dev_appservery.py + debugging

2014-03-02 Thread Vinny P
On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 9:59 AM, Cezary Wagner cezary.wag...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 What is the best tools to use dev_appserver.py with breakpoint and
 debugging - what is the best choice.




Hi Cezary,

You might want to read this forums discussion here:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/google-appengine/ep5BWYKpQpU -
there's an interesting discussion on Python debugging with the
dev_appserver.

If you're OK with debugging using pdb, you'll want to read this message in
particular:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/ep5BWYKpQpU/41asdxKhuycJ


-
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Technology  Media Advisor
Chicago, IL

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Re: [google-appengine] Python27 + new dev_appservery.py + debugging

2014-03-02 Thread Cezary Wagner
Thanks for hints - it is not helpful.

Discussion is very old and there is not clear conclusion

In my opinion pdb is good for hobbists - placing break points by editing 
code it is good for 100 lines programs or amateurs - sadomacho :)

It looks that I can not use dart, endpoints because there is no usable 
debugger for it :)

W dniu niedziela, 2 marca 2014 17:50:44 UTC+1 użytkownik Vinny P napisał:

 On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 9:59 AM, Cezary Wagner 
 cezary...@gmail.comjavascript:
  wrote:

 What is the best tools to use dev_appserver.py with breakpoint and 
 debugging - what is the best choice.




 Hi Cezary,

 You might want to read this forums discussion here: 
 https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/google-appengine/ep5BWYKpQpU - 
 there's an interesting discussion on Python debugging with the 
 dev_appserver.

 If you're OK with debugging using pdb, you'll want to read this message in 
 particular: 
 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/ep5BWYKpQpU/41asdxKhuycJ
   
  
 -
 -Vinny P
 Technology  Media Advisor
 Chicago, IL

 App Engine Code Samples: http://www.learntogoogleit.com
  

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Re: [google-appengine] Python27 + new dev_appservery.py + debugging

2014-03-02 Thread Cezary Wagner
I found some combo like Pydev 3.3.3 + Eclipse 3.8.x (but no Django 
templates support or Aptana!).

It allow fast debugging with little slower coding.

W dniu poniedziałek, 3 marca 2014 00:49:14 UTC+1 użytkownik Cezary Wagner 
napisał:

 Thanks for hints - it is not helpful.

 Discussion is very old and there is not clear conclusion

 In my opinion pdb is good for hobbists - placing break points by editing 
 code it is good for 100 lines programs or amateurs - sadomacho :)

 It looks that I can not use dart, endpoints because there is no usable 
 debugger for it :)

 W dniu niedziela, 2 marca 2014 17:50:44 UTC+1 użytkownik Vinny P napisał:

 On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 9:59 AM, Cezary Wagner cezary...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 What is the best tools to use dev_appserver.py with breakpoint and 
 debugging - what is the best choice.




 Hi Cezary,

 You might want to read this forums discussion here: 
 https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/google-appengine/ep5BWYKpQpU - 
 there's an interesting discussion on Python debugging with the 
 dev_appserver.

 If you're OK with debugging using pdb, you'll want to read this message 
 in particular: 
 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/ep5BWYKpQpU/41asdxKhuycJ
   
  
 -
 -Vinny P
 Technology  Media Advisor
 Chicago, IL

 App Engine Code Samples: http://www.learntogoogleit.com
  


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[google-appengine] Python27 + new dev_appservery.py + debugging

2014-03-01 Thread Cezary Wagner
What is the best tools to use dev_appserver.py with breakpoint and 
debugging - what is the best choice.

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