[google-appengine] Re: 403 Application Over Quota Problem - Not True!

2009-06-24 Thread reco

he cc,

yes this is crazy
at least if you enable billing they could give you 5GB outgoing
bandwidth for free.
have the free accounts limited to 1GB i think is fine.

reco

On Jun 22, 10:08 pm, cc  wrote:
> Yep same problem here 403s everywhere! Try using the Remote API it is
> now useless with the newquota. Problem seems to be that the "burst"quotahas 
> also dropped by a factor of 10 along with the dailyquota.
> Google has the burstquotaset to try to help keep you under the dailyquota, 
> spreading thequotaover a 24 hour period. This "feature" seems
> to render most apps unusable now. Anyone trying out app engine under
> the freequotais quickly going to decide not to use app engine for
> their web app. Kind of defeats the purpose of even offering the free
> version. Google should have kept the burstquotaconstant and only
> reduced the dailyquota. This is just further proof that the
> accountants are now running the show at Google.
>
> On Jun 22, 3:06 pm, Mike Wesner  wrote:
>
>
>
> > enabling billing seems to have sped things up and so far has stopped
> > the 403's.
>
> > I still think something is fishy since we had not warnings in the
> > appspot dashboard and are way under free quotas.
>
> > On Jun 22, 4:58 pm, Mike Wesner  wrote:
>
> > > Several of our appspot instances are having this exact same issue.
>
> > > We are way underquota, hardly hitting the appid at all and we see 403
> > > on static files and other things.  Random 500 errors too.
>
> > > We are enabling billing on a few of our test instances which we hope
> > > will help, but I can't see how it will make a difference since we are
> > > so far underquota/usage rates.
>
> > > ANY GOOGLERS READING THIS?  This is a serious issue and we get ZERO
> > > information or support from google.
>
> > > How can a company use this stuff when its so flakey?
>
> > > On Jun 22, 2:19 pm, Devel63  wrote:
>
> > > > All of a sudden, my app is returning 403 application overquota
> > > > whenever I do anything a bit strenuous.
>
> > > > All of the quotas are WAY under, but things that used to work fine are
> > > > now triggering this message.
>
> > > > A guess is that the budgeting process has become much more fine-
> > > > grained, and is mistakenly extrapolating from one request that may do
> > > > a number of DB writes and take 10 seconds.  But these are extremely
> > > > rare.
>
> > > > The app name is judysapps-qa.
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[google-appengine] Re: 403 Application Over Quota Problem - Not True!

2009-06-24 Thread reco

answering my own problem here.
app engine quotas were reduced rom 10GB to 1GB per day outgoing
bandwidth — crazyy

reco

On Jun 24, 6:12 pm, reco  wrote:
> same thing here,
>
> my daily Outgoing Bandwidth shows a limit of 1GB on myquotadetails
> page.
> google mentions though there is a daily limit of 10GB even if billing
> is not enabled.
>
> http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/quotas.html
>
> GOOLE please HELP
> app id: purpleimageapp
>
> thanx!
>
> On Jun 22, 3:19 pm, Devel63  wrote:
>
>
>
> > All of a sudden, my app is returning 403 application overquota
> > whenever I do anything a bit strenuous.
>
> > All of the quotas are WAY under, but things that used to work fine are
> > now triggering this message.
>
> > A guess is that the budgeting process has become much more fine-
> > grained, and is mistakenly extrapolating from one request that may do
> > a number of DB writes and take 10 seconds.  But these are extremely
> > rare.
>
> > The app name is judysapps-qa.
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[google-appengine] Re: 403 Application Over Quota Problem - Not True!

2009-06-24 Thread reco

same thing here,

my daily Outgoing Bandwidth shows a limit of 1GB on my quota details
page.
google mentions though there is a daily limit of 10GB even if billing
is not enabled.

http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/quotas.html

GOOLE please HELP
app id: purpleimageapp

thanx!

On Jun 22, 3:19 pm, Devel63  wrote:
> All of a sudden, my app is returning 403 application overquota
> whenever I do anything a bit strenuous.
>
> All of the quotas are WAY under, but things that used to work fine are
> now triggering this message.
>
> A guess is that the budgeting process has become much more fine-
> grained, and is mistakenly extrapolating from one request that may do
> a number of DB writes and take 10 seconds.  But these are extremely
> rare.
>
> The app name is judysapps-qa.
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[google-appengine] Re: 403 Application Over Quota Problem - Not True!

2009-06-22 Thread cc

Yep same problem here 403s everywhere! Try using the Remote API it is
now useless with the new quota. Problem seems to be that the "burst"
quota has also dropped by a factor of 10 along with the daily quota.
Google has the burst quota set to try to help keep you under the daily
quota, spreading the quota over a 24 hour period. This "feature" seems
to render most apps unusable now. Anyone trying out app engine under
the free quota is quickly going to decide not to use app engine for
their web app. Kind of defeats the purpose of even offering the free
version. Google should have kept the burst quota constant and only
reduced the daily quota. This is just further proof that the
accountants are now running the show at Google.

On Jun 22, 3:06 pm, Mike Wesner  wrote:
> enabling billing seems to have sped things up and so far has stopped
> the 403's.
>
> I still think something is fishy since we had not warnings in the
> appspot dashboard and are way under free quotas.
>
> On Jun 22, 4:58 pm, Mike Wesner  wrote:
>
> > Several of our appspot instances are having this exact same issue.
>
> > We are way under quota, hardly hitting the appid at all and we see 403
> > on static files and other things.  Random 500 errors too.
>
> > We are enabling billing on a few of our test instances which we hope
> > will help, but I can't see how it will make a difference since we are
> > so far under quota/usage rates.
>
> > ANY GOOGLERS READING THIS?  This is a serious issue and we get ZERO
> > information or support from google.
>
> > How can a company use this stuff when its so flakey?
>
> > On Jun 22, 2:19 pm, Devel63  wrote:
>
> > > All of a sudden, my app is returning 403 application over quota
> > > whenever I do anything a bit strenuous.
>
> > > All of the quotas are WAY under, but things that used to work fine are
> > > now triggering this message.
>
> > > A guess is that the budgeting process has become much more fine-
> > > grained, and is mistakenly extrapolating from one request that may do
> > > a number of DB writes and take 10 seconds.  But these are extremely
> > > rare.
>
> > > The app name is judysapps-qa.
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[google-appengine] Re: 403 Application Over Quota Problem - Not True!

2009-06-22 Thread Mike Wesner

enabling billing seems to have sped things up and so far has stopped
the 403's.

I still think something is fishy since we had not warnings in the
appspot dashboard and are way under free quotas.




On Jun 22, 4:58 pm, Mike Wesner  wrote:
> Several of our appspot instances are having this exact same issue.
>
> We are way under quota, hardly hitting the appid at all and we see 403
> on static files and other things.  Random 500 errors too.
>
> We are enabling billing on a few of our test instances which we hope
> will help, but I can't see how it will make a difference since we are
> so far under quota/usage rates.
>
> ANY GOOGLERS READING THIS?  This is a serious issue and we get ZERO
> information or support from google.
>
> How can a company use this stuff when its so flakey?
>
> On Jun 22, 2:19 pm, Devel63  wrote:
>
> > All of a sudden, my app is returning 403 application over quota
> > whenever I do anything a bit strenuous.
>
> > All of the quotas are WAY under, but things that used to work fine are
> > now triggering this message.
>
> > A guess is that the budgeting process has become much more fine-
> > grained, and is mistakenly extrapolating from one request that may do
> > a number of DB writes and take 10 seconds.  But these are extremely
> > rare.
>
> > The app name is judysapps-qa.
>
>
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[google-appengine] Re: 403 Application Over Quota Problem - Not True!

2009-06-22 Thread Mike Wesner

Several of our appspot instances are having this exact same issue.

We are way under quota, hardly hitting the appid at all and we see 403
on static files and other things.  Random 500 errors too.

We are enabling billing on a few of our test instances which we hope
will help, but I can't see how it will make a difference since we are
so far under quota/usage rates.

ANY GOOGLERS READING THIS?  This is a serious issue and we get ZERO
information or support from google.

How can a company use this stuff when its so flakey?



On Jun 22, 2:19 pm, Devel63  wrote:
> All of a sudden, my app is returning 403 application over quota
> whenever I do anything a bit strenuous.
>
> All of the quotas are WAY under, but things that used to work fine are
> now triggering this message.
>
> A guess is that the budgeting process has become much more fine-
> grained, and is mistakenly extrapolating from one request that may do
> a number of DB writes and take 10 seconds.  But these are extremely
> rare.
>
> The app name is judysapps-qa.
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[google-appengine] Re: 403 Application Over Quota Problem - Not True!

2009-06-22 Thread Tony

According to this (http://googleappengine.blogspot.com/2009/02/skys-
almost-limit-high-cpu-is-no-more.html), you shouldn't get over quota
messages for individual requests using high cpu, but it sounds exactly
like what's happening to your app.  Unless they reimplemented the high-
cpu-requests quota with the new decreased free quota levels, this
sounds like a bug (http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/
list).

On Jun 22, 3:19 pm, Devel63  wrote:
> All of a sudden, my app is returning 403 application over quota
> whenever I do anything a bit strenuous.
>
> All of the quotas are WAY under, but things that used to work fine are
> now triggering this message.
>
> A guess is that the budgeting process has become much more fine-
> grained, and is mistakenly extrapolating from one request that may do
> a number of DB writes and take 10 seconds.  But these are extremely
> rare.
>
> The app name is judysapps-qa.
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