[google-appengine] Re: App engine examples and documentation suck -Don't waste your time
works fine for me. I guess it's just you. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[google-appengine] Re: App engine examples and documentation suck -Don't waste your time
On Wednesday, December 4, 2013 5:59:31 AM UTC+11, kingofrockinsf wrote: > > > Despite what Google claims ,you are not going to get an app up and running > quickly on App Engine. > I had the opposite experience, it was a few clicks really in Eclipse. Having seen some of the limitations since, well, that's another story. I'd agree there's a lot of hampering factors in getting a lot of apps running. The one thing which really bothers me is lock-in, porting an app after going through the GAE hoops would be tricky. I guess Capedwarf is an out if needed (I imagine it would have the same limitations if its mirrors GAE?). > > The OAuth part of it is a joke . > Even if you are already logged in to gmail and have the email address > listed under permis(sions ,the authentication fails and it doesn't let you > retry authentication. The Auth page only appears the first time you try it. > I can't understand why there isn't a 'Custom Auth' setting which allows you to roll your own authentication. I don't particularly care for any of the authentication options for my use case. I think with my app at the moment it seems to vary between asking for a Google account login first, then my custom auth. Sometimes it doesn't. I seem to see a lot of random behaviour with GAE. > > For an example app ,the explanation and functionality is awful. > This seem typical of the documentation for this service ,in general. > > I've found the documentation pretty good, excellent in most cases, but I haven't dug into a huge amount. I'm thinking you've had a frustrating time, I can only guess its shoe-horning something that doesn't fit the GAE model into GAE (had a few similar frustrations). The limitations are making me regret choosing it. All I really want to do is write to a central log file from each frontend instance, and that is proving painful. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[google-appengine] Re: App engine examples and documentation suck -Don't waste your time
On Wednesday, December 18, 2013 6:46:51 AM UTC-2, joe.sh...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Wednesday, December 4, 2013 5:59:31 AM UTC+11, kingofrockinsf wrote: >> >> >> Despite what Google claims ,you are not going to get an app up and >> running quickly on App Engine. >> > > I had the opposite experience, it was a few clicks really in Eclipse. > Having seen some of the limitations since, well, that's another story. I'd > agree there's a lot of hampering factors in getting a lot of apps running. > The one thing which really bothers me is lock-in, porting an app after > going through the GAE hoops would be tricky. I guess Capedwarf is an out if > needed (I imagine it would have the same limitations if its mirrors GAE?). > Another good option, and no only form Java apps, is App Scale (http://www.appscale.com/) > > >> >> The OAuth part of it is a joke . >> Even if you are already logged in to gmail and have the email address >> listed under permis(sions ,the authentication fails and it doesn't let you >> retry authentication. The Auth page only appears the first time you try it. >> > > I can't understand why there isn't a 'Custom Auth' setting which allows > you to roll your own authentication. I don't particularly care for any of > the authentication options for my use case. I think with my app at the > moment it seems to vary between asking for a Google account login first, > then my custom auth. Sometimes it doesn't. I seem to see a lot of random > behaviour with GAE. > I can implement your own authentication using datastore. You are not obligated to use Auth just because you have set this option on app creation. Take look at https://pswdless.appspot.com/ as a example. > > >> >> For an example app ,the explanation and functionality is awful. >> This seem typical of the documentation for this service ,in general. >> >> > I've found the documentation pretty good, excellent in most cases, but I > haven't dug into a huge amount. I'm thinking you've had a frustrating time, > I can only guess its shoe-horning something that doesn't fit the GAE model > into GAE (had a few similar frustrations). The limitations are making me > regret choosing it. All I really want to do is write to a central log file > from each frontend instance, and that is proving painful. > > Goog lucky, Renzo Nuccitelli -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[google-appengine] Re: App engine examples and documentation suck -Don't waste your time
A couple links, please read! - about lock-in: https://plus.google.com/u/0/110401818717224273095/posts/Uoj3pmhbCkH - about custom auth: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CaBt89dc3A -- alex On Friday, 27 December 2013 04:41:18 UTC+1, Renzo Nuccitelli wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, December 18, 2013 6:46:51 AM UTC-2, joe.sh...@gmail.comwrote: >> >> On Wednesday, December 4, 2013 5:59:31 AM UTC+11, kingofrockinsf wrote: >>> >>> >>> Despite what Google claims ,you are not going to get an app up and >>> running quickly on App Engine. >>> >> >> I had the opposite experience, it was a few clicks really in Eclipse. >> Having seen some of the limitations since, well, that's another story. I'd >> agree there's a lot of hampering factors in getting a lot of apps running. >> The one thing which really bothers me is lock-in, porting an app after >> going through the GAE hoops would be tricky. I guess Capedwarf is an out if >> needed (I imagine it would have the same limitations if its mirrors GAE?). >> > > Another good option, and no only form Java apps, is App Scale ( > http://www.appscale.com/) > > >> >> >>> >>> The OAuth part of it is a joke . >>> Even if you are already logged in to gmail and have the email address >>> listed under permis(sions ,the authentication fails and it doesn't let you >>> retry authentication. The Auth page only appears the first time you try it. >>> >> >> I can't understand why there isn't a 'Custom Auth' setting which allows >> you to roll your own authentication. I don't particularly care for any of >> the authentication options for my use case. I think with my app at the >> moment it seems to vary between asking for a Google account login first, >> then my custom auth. Sometimes it doesn't. I seem to see a lot of random >> behaviour with GAE. >> > > I can implement your own authentication using datastore. You are not > obligated to use Auth just because you have set this option on app > creation. Take look at https://pswdless.appspot.com/ as a example. > > >> >> >>> >>> For an example app ,the explanation and functionality is awful. >>> This seem typical of the documentation for this service ,in general. >>> >>> >> I've found the documentation pretty good, excellent in most cases, but I >> haven't dug into a huge amount. I'm thinking you've had a frustrating time, >> I can only guess its shoe-horning something that doesn't fit the GAE model >> into GAE (had a few similar frustrations). The limitations are making me >> regret choosing it. All I really want to do is write to a central log file >> from each frontend instance, and that is proving painful. >> >> > Goog lucky, > Renzo Nuccitelli > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[google-appengine] Re: App engine examples and documentation suck -Don't waste your time
I feel your pain. It took me forever to get the tic tac toe sample working, and even then I can't get the scores to show up on my android device. Does anyone have any recommendations of what other backend tools to use to create an asynchronous multiplayer game using android? On Tuesday, December 3, 2013 12:59:31 PM UTC-6, kingofrockinsf wrote: > > > Despite what Google claims ,you are not going to get an app up and running > quickly on App Engine. > > Other than the crappy guestbook example ,the Java examples for app engine > are missing a lot of explanation. > > I have been trying for two days to get the Tic Tac Toe (Java) example > working . > > It took a long time to figure out how to see the API working as a test. > The only part of it that works is when you manually put in a display > board call in appspot API explorer. > > It still doesn't work when you try to access it as a normal web page > directly from eclipse . > > The OAuth part of it is a joke . > Even if you are already logged in to gmail and have the email address > listed under permis(sions ,the authentication fails and it doesn't let you > retry authentication. The Auth page only appears the first time you try it. > > For an example app ,the explanation and functionality is awful. > This seem typical of the documentation for this service ,in general. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[google-appengine] Re: App engine examples and documentation suck -Don't waste your time
The latest one killing me is the Google Cloud Storage client API. You can write to a file (write only, not append), but there is no API to list or search the files in your bucket. I don't understand how an API to store data ala a file system approach would be produced without that. Really don't understand why you'd release the API without it. (Yes, you can use the RESTful URL's and fiddle around to achieve the purpose. I consider that a hack if you've chosen to use the GCS client API). On Wednesday, December 4, 2013 5:59:31 AM UTC+11, kingofrockinsf wrote: > > > Despite what Google claims ,you are not going to get an app up and running > quickly on App Engine. > > Other than the crappy guestbook example ,the Java examples for app engine > are missing a lot of explanation. > > I have been trying for two days to get the Tic Tac Toe (Java) example > working . > > It took a long time to figure out how to see the API working as a test. > The only part of it that works is when you manually put in a display > board call in appspot API explorer. > > It still doesn't work when you try to access it as a normal web page > directly from eclipse . > > The OAuth part of it is a joke . > Even if you are already logged in to gmail and have the email address > listed under permis(sions ,the authentication fails and it doesn't let you > retry authentication. The Auth page only appears the first time you try it. > > For an example app ,the explanation and functionality is awful. > This seem typical of the documentation for this service ,in general. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[google-appengine] Re: App engine examples and documentation suck -Don't waste your time
How is listbucket not capable of listing files in your bucket ? https://developers.google.com/appengine/docs/python/googlecloudstorageclient/functions#listbucket GCS works like S3, these are all read, write only and delete. Neither support append to a particular file. On Thursday, January 9, 2014 6:30:30 AM UTC+8, joe.sh...@gmail.com wrote: > > The latest one killing me is the Google Cloud Storage client API. You can > write to a file (write only, not append), but there is no API to list or > search the files in your bucket. > > I don't understand how an API to store data ala a file system approach > would be produced without that. Really don't understand why you'd release > the API without it. > > (Yes, you can use the RESTful URL's and fiddle around to achieve the > purpose. I consider that a hack if you've chosen to use the GCS client API). > > > On Wednesday, December 4, 2013 5:59:31 AM UTC+11, kingofrockinsf wrote: >> >> >> Despite what Google claims ,you are not going to get an app up and >> running quickly on App Engine. >> >> Other than the crappy guestbook example ,the Java examples for app engine >> are missing a lot of explanation. >> >> I have been trying for two days to get the Tic Tac Toe (Java) example >> working . >> >> It took a long time to figure out how to see the API working as a test. >> The only part of it that works is when you manually put in a display >> board call in appspot API explorer. >> >> It still doesn't work when you try to access it as a normal web page >> directly from eclipse . >> >> The OAuth part of it is a joke . >> Even if you are already logged in to gmail and have the email address >> listed under permis(sions ,the authentication fails and it doesn't let you >> retry authentication. The Auth page only appears the first time you try it. >> >> For an example app ,the explanation and functionality is awful. >> This seem typical of the documentation for this service ,in general. >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
