[google-appengine] Re: Going beyond the billing-enabled quotas

2010-08-02 Thread Albert
Hi!

Thanks for bringing this up. I'd like to know too.

Thanks! :D

On Aug 3, 8:05 am, Matt H  wrote:
> Hi.
>
> What happens if I eventually reach the billing-enabled quotas and wish
> to scale further? For example, if I get 100 million requests per day,
> what would I do?
>
> I see the form to request additional quota, but I'd like some more
> information. If my app was genuinely receiving more than 43 million
> requests per day, would Google ever deny the request? How much would
> it cost, if anything, to go beyond these limits?

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[google-appengine] Re: Going beyond the billing-enabled quotas

2010-08-03 Thread Matt H
I think a lot of devs are. It'd be nice to hear something from Google
about this.

On Aug 3, 4:12 am, Albert  wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Thanks for bringing this up. I'd like to know too.
>
> Thanks! :D
>
> On Aug 3, 8:05 am, Matt H  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hi.
>
> > What happens if I eventually reach the billing-enabled quotas and wish
> > to scale further? For example, if I get 100 million requests per day,
> > what would I do?
>
> > I see the form to request additional quota, but I'd like some more
> > information. If my app was genuinely receiving more than 43 million
> > requests per day, would Google ever deny the request? How much would
> > it cost, if anything, to go beyond these limits?

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[google-appengine] Re: Going beyond the billing-enabled quotas

2010-08-03 Thread Matt H
Thanks. Hehe, I never will hit the limits, but it's always nice to
know. :)

On Aug 3, 4:05 pm, "Nick Johnson (Google)" 
wrote:
> Hi Matt,
>
> If you're near reaching any of the non-billed quotas, contact us, and we'll
> arrange to increase them. These limits are mostly in place as sanity checks,
> and to safeguard the system; if you're reaching them legitimately, we're
> more than happy to help you scale beyond them!
>
> -Nick Johnson
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 1:05 AM, Matt H  wrote:
> > Hi.
>
> > What happens if I eventually reach the billing-enabled quotas and wish
> > to scale further? For example, if I get 100 million requests per day,
> > what would I do?
>
> > I see the form to request additional quota, but I'd like some more
> > information. If my app was genuinely receiving more than 43 million
> > requests per day, would Google ever deny the request? How much would
> > it cost, if anything, to go beyond these limits?
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[google-appengine] Re: Going beyond the billing-enabled quotas

2010-08-03 Thread Albert
Thanks!

On Aug 4, 12:35 am, Harshal  wrote:
> Thanks Nick for that clarification. Certainly helps to strengthen the
> confidence we have on app engine.
>
> On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 8:35 PM, Nick Johnson (Google) <
>
>
>
> nick.john...@google.com> wrote:
> > Hi Matt,
>
> > If you're near reaching any of the non-billed quotas, contact us, and we'll
> > arrange to increase them. These limits are mostly in place as sanity checks,
> > and to safeguard the system; if you're reaching them legitimately, we're
> > more than happy to help you scale beyond them!
>
> > -Nick Johnson
>
> > On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 1:05 AM, Matt H  wrote:
>
> >> Hi.
>
> >> What happens if I eventually reach the billing-enabled quotas and wish
> >> to scale further? For example, if I get 100 million requests per day,
> >> what would I do?
>
> >> I see the form to request additional quota, but I'd like some more
> >> information. If my app was genuinely receiving more than 43 million
> >> requests per day, would Google ever deny the request? How much would
> >> it cost, if anything, to go beyond these limits?
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[google-appengine] Re: Going beyond the billing-enabled quotas

2010-08-03 Thread Flips
Hi Nick,

what do you mean with "if you're reaching them legitimately" or in
other words: what is *not* legitimately?

Best Regards
Philip

On 3 Aug., 17:05, "Nick Johnson (Google)" 
wrote:
> Hi Matt,
>
> If you're near reaching any of the non-billed quotas, contact us, and we'll
> arrange to increase them. These limits are mostly in place as sanity checks,
> and to safeguard the system; if you're reaching them legitimately, we're
> more than happy to help you scale beyond them!
>
> -Nick Johnson
>
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 1:05 AM, Matt H  wrote:
> > Hi.
>
> > What happens if I eventually reach the billing-enabled quotas and wish
> > to scale further? For example, if I get 100 million requests per day,
> > what would I do?
>
> > I see the form to request additional quota, but I'd like some more
> > information. If my app was genuinely receiving more than 43 million
> > requests per day, would Google ever deny the request? How much would
> > it cost, if anything, to go beyond these limits?
>
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[google-appengine] Re: Going beyond the billing-enabled quotas

2010-08-04 Thread Geoffrey Spear


On Aug 4, 2:19 am, Flips  wrote:
> Hi Nick,
>
> what do you mean with "if you're reaching them legitimately" or in
> other words: what is *not* legitimately?

Hitting your own app 43 million times because you're worried that some
day you might reach the quota and you want an increase now when you
get 10 visitors a day? :)

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Re: [google-appengine] Re: Going beyond the billing-enabled quotas

2010-08-04 Thread Nick Johnson (Google)
On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 7:19 AM, Flips  wrote:

> Hi Nick,
>
> what do you mean with "if you're reaching them legitimately" or in
> other words: what is *not* legitimately?
>

Sorry, I should've been clearer. There are cases when users reach these
limits accidentally or because of poorly written code. In those cases,
instead of increasing the limit, we work with the user to improve their app
so it's not necessary.

-Nick Johnson


>
> Best Regards
> Philip
>
> On 3 Aug., 17:05, "Nick Johnson (Google)" 
> wrote:
> > Hi Matt,
> >
> > If you're near reaching any of the non-billed quotas, contact us, and
> we'll
> > arrange to increase them. These limits are mostly in place as sanity
> checks,
> > and to safeguard the system; if you're reaching them legitimately, we're
> > more than happy to help you scale beyond them!
> >
> > -Nick Johnson
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 1:05 AM, Matt H  wrote:
> > > Hi.
> >
> > > What happens if I eventually reach the billing-enabled quotas and wish
> > > to scale further? For example, if I get 100 million requests per day,
> > > what would I do?
> >
> > > I see the form to request additional quota, but I'd like some more
> > > information. If my app was genuinely receiving more than 43 million
> > > requests per day, would Google ever deny the request? How much would
> > > it cost, if anything, to go beyond these limits?
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Re: [google-appengine] Re: Going beyond the billing-enabled quotas

2010-08-04 Thread Harshal
On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 6:07 PM, Geoffrey Spear  wrote:

>
>
> On Aug 4, 2:19 am, Flips  wrote:
> > Hi Nick,
> >
> > what do you mean with "if you're reaching them legitimately" or in
> > other words: what is *not* legitimately?
>
> Hitting your own app 43 million times because you're worried that some
> day you might reach the quota and you want an increase now when you
> get 10 visitors a day? :)
>
>
Or try to port s...@home client to GAE, and use task queue to process data.
Burn Google CPU hours for the sake of finding aliens! :)

Just wondering if one really wants to run something like that, how would you
proceed implementing it? I know step one, write to Nick to increase the
quota :D

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Re: [google-appengine] Re: Going beyond the billing-enabled quotas

2010-08-04 Thread Christoffer Viken
On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 2:40 PM, Nick Johnson (Google) <
nick.john...@google.com> wrote:

>
> Sorry, I should've been clearer. There are cases when users reach these
> limits accidentally or because of poorly written code. In those cases,
> instead of increasing the limit, we work with the user to improve their app
> so it's not necessary.
>
> -Nick Johnson
>

 That is so true.
Bad code is just too common these days and it is a sad sight *1

On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 2:49 PM, Harshal  wrote:
>
>
> Or try to port s...@home client to GAE, and use task queue to process
> data. Burn Google CPU hours for the sake of finding aliens! :)
>
> Just wondering if one really wants to run something like that, how would
> you proceed implementing it? I know step one, write to Nick to increase the
> quota :D
>

Don't need that,

First implement the s...@home algorithm in python or java,
then write a BOINC task fetcher in the same language,
store the jobs in the blobstore, run them for a bit, regularly save process
to memcache, save process to datastore from time to time. trigger
continuation with the task queue.
Add a cron kickstarter, just in case.

Then you call google for increase.


*1: My second programing language was actually assembly for Atmel's AVR, but
i never leaned to use RAM (only the registers) so i learned a thing or two
about sleek code. ;)

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i=0

str="kI4dJMtXAv0m3cUiPKx8H"

while i<=20:

if i%3 and not i%4:

print str[i],

i=i+1

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