[google-appengine] Re: Limit on image size very low
In the mean time you can try http://code.google.com/p/appengine-storages/ Is a project Im developing and provides an Storage property that tries to works like the django one. Now has two backends, S3 and datastore. The datastore backend saves the file in 1mb chunks. The code is still beta but functional enough for sites not under production. SS On 7 dic, 22:27, Ikai L (Google) ika...@google.com wrote: Denis, The roadmap is meant to be a six month launch schedule. We don't work on projects in a serial process, more than likely work has more already begun if not already nearing completion for many of the items on the list. I can't give you a precise date for serving or storing large files yet, but we are trying a process in which we release beta SDKs so you can start developing against it before the official release. On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Denis altitudebre...@gmail.com wrote: Ikai, Could you please specify a planned date (at least with month precision) of so wanted feature release? Also would it only alter a datastore structure size, or also be applied to incoming/outgoing emails limits, responses limits, POST request size? Thanks in andvance On Nov 19, 1:13 am, Ikai L (Google) ika...@google.com wrote: Cynthia, I have good news for you: From here:http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/roadmap.html - Service for storing and serving large files It's coming! We hear you. On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Cynthia Kurtz cfku...@cfkurtz.com wrote: Sorry - to clarify - I wasn't talking about the imaging service, I was talking about the database limit. I had originally intended to have attachments to stories, which could include say PDF as well as audio and video and images. If there is a way to break up ANY binary data into 1MB chunks and get it in and out of the database cleanly, I'm all ears. On Nov 18, 5:51 pm, Cynthia Kurtz cfku...@cfkurtz.com wrote: Another issue is, the 1MB limit is incompatible with audio and video as well as just images. So it's not just an imaging library that is needed, it's everything. I had planned to have people be able to collect stories in audio format (say from old folks) and upload them to my site (Rakontu) but given the 1MB limit that's pretty much out of the question. That and the Timeouts and other gotchas make it hard to create anything that approximates real social media on GAE. :( But here's hoping it grows up over time. Moore's law is in our favor here. On Nov 18, 11:03 am, Bjoern bjoer...@googlemail.com wrote: If you have a suggestion, I wouldn't mind trying it. I suspect few python imaging libraries would be pure python, though. On Nov 17, 3:08 pm, Eli Jones eli.jo...@gmail.com wrote: Isn't there another image library you could use to resize? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comgoogle-appengine%2Bunsubscrib e...@googlegroups.com google-appengine%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.comgoogle-appengine%252Bunsub scr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=. -- Ikai Lan Developer Programs Engineer, Google App Engine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appeng...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comgoogle-appengine%2Bunsubscrib e...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- Ikai Lan Developer Programs Engineer, Google App Engine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appeng...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
Re: [google-appengine] Re: Limit on image size very low
Denis, The roadmap is meant to be a six month launch schedule. We don't work on projects in a serial process, more than likely work has more already begun if not already nearing completion for many of the items on the list. I can't give you a precise date for serving or storing large files yet, but we are trying a process in which we release beta SDKs so you can start developing against it before the official release. On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Denis altitudebre...@gmail.com wrote: Ikai, Could you please specify a planned date (at least with month precision) of so wanted feature release? Also would it only alter a datastore structure size, or also be applied to incoming/outgoing emails limits, responses limits, POST request size? Thanks in andvance On Nov 19, 1:13 am, Ikai L (Google) ika...@google.com wrote: Cynthia, I have good news for you: From here:http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/roadmap.html - Service for storing and serving large files It's coming! We hear you. On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Cynthia Kurtz cfku...@cfkurtz.com wrote: Sorry - to clarify - I wasn't talking about the imaging service, I was talking about the database limit. I had originally intended to have attachments to stories, which could include say PDF as well as audio and video and images. If there is a way to break up ANY binary data into 1MB chunks and get it in and out of the database cleanly, I'm all ears. On Nov 18, 5:51 pm, Cynthia Kurtz cfku...@cfkurtz.com wrote: Another issue is, the 1MB limit is incompatible with audio and video as well as just images. So it's not just an imaging library that is needed, it's everything. I had planned to have people be able to collect stories in audio format (say from old folks) and upload them to my site (Rakontu) but given the 1MB limit that's pretty much out of the question. That and the Timeouts and other gotchas make it hard to create anything that approximates real social media on GAE. :( But here's hoping it grows up over time. Moore's law is in our favor here. On Nov 18, 11:03 am, Bjoern bjoer...@googlemail.com wrote: If you have a suggestion, I wouldn't mind trying it. I suspect few python imaging libraries would be pure python, though. On Nov 17, 3:08 pm, Eli Jones eli.jo...@gmail.com wrote: Isn't there another image library you could use to resize? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comgoogle-appengine%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com google-appengine%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.comgoogle-appengine%252bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=. -- Ikai Lan Developer Programs Engineer, Google App Engine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appeng...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comgoogle-appengine%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- Ikai Lan Developer Programs Engineer, Google App Engine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appeng...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
[google-appengine] Re: Limit on image size very low
Ikai, Could you please specify a planned date (at least with month precision) of so wanted feature release? Also would it only alter a datastore structure size, or also be applied to incoming/outgoing emails limits, responses limits, POST request size? Thanks in andvance On Nov 19, 1:13 am, Ikai L (Google) ika...@google.com wrote: Cynthia, I have good news for you: From here:http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/roadmap.html - Service for storing and serving large files It's coming! We hear you. On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Cynthia Kurtz cfku...@cfkurtz.com wrote: Sorry - to clarify - I wasn't talking about the imaging service, I was talking about the database limit. I had originally intended to have attachments to stories, which could include say PDF as well as audio and video and images. If there is a way to break up ANY binary data into 1MB chunks and get it in and out of the database cleanly, I'm all ears. On Nov 18, 5:51 pm, Cynthia Kurtz cfku...@cfkurtz.com wrote: Another issue is, the 1MB limit is incompatible with audio and video as well as just images. So it's not just an imaging library that is needed, it's everything. I had planned to have people be able to collect stories in audio format (say from old folks) and upload them to my site (Rakontu) but given the 1MB limit that's pretty much out of the question. That and the Timeouts and other gotchas make it hard to create anything that approximates real social media on GAE. :( But here's hoping it grows up over time. Moore's law is in our favor here. On Nov 18, 11:03 am, Bjoern bjoer...@googlemail.com wrote: If you have a suggestion, I wouldn't mind trying it. I suspect few python imaging libraries would be pure python, though. On Nov 17, 3:08 pm, Eli Jones eli.jo...@gmail.com wrote: Isn't there another image library you could use to resize? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appeng...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comgoogle-appengine%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=. -- Ikai Lan Developer Programs Engineer, Google App Engine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appeng...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
[google-appengine] Re: Limit on image size very low
If you have a suggestion, I wouldn't mind trying it. I suspect few python imaging libraries would be pure python, though. On Nov 17, 3:08 pm, Eli Jones eli.jo...@gmail.com wrote: Isn't there another image library you could use to resize? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appeng...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=.
[google-appengine] Re: Limit on image size very low
Another issue is, the 1MB limit is incompatible with audio and video as well as just images. So it's not just an imaging library that is needed, it's everything. I had planned to have people be able to collect stories in audio format (say from old folks) and upload them to my site (Rakontu) but given the 1MB limit that's pretty much out of the question. That and the Timeouts and other gotchas make it hard to create anything that approximates real social media on GAE. :( But here's hoping it grows up over time. Moore's law is in our favor here. On Nov 18, 11:03 am, Bjoern bjoer...@googlemail.com wrote: If you have a suggestion, I wouldn't mind trying it. I suspect few python imaging libraries would be pure python, though. On Nov 17, 3:08 pm, Eli Jones eli.jo...@gmail.com wrote: Isn't there another image library you could use to resize? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appeng...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=.
[google-appengine] Re: Limit on image size very low
Sorry - to clarify - I wasn't talking about the imaging service, I was talking about the database limit. I had originally intended to have attachments to stories, which could include say PDF as well as audio and video and images. If there is a way to break up ANY binary data into 1MB chunks and get it in and out of the database cleanly, I'm all ears. On Nov 18, 5:51 pm, Cynthia Kurtz cfku...@cfkurtz.com wrote: Another issue is, the 1MB limit is incompatible with audio and video as well as just images. So it's not just an imaging library that is needed, it's everything. I had planned to have people be able to collect stories in audio format (say from old folks) and upload them to my site (Rakontu) but given the 1MB limit that's pretty much out of the question. That and the Timeouts and other gotchas make it hard to create anything that approximates real social media on GAE. :( But here's hoping it grows up over time. Moore's law is in our favor here. On Nov 18, 11:03 am, Bjoern bjoer...@googlemail.com wrote: If you have a suggestion, I wouldn't mind trying it. I suspect few python imaging libraries would be pure python, though. On Nov 17, 3:08 pm, Eli Jones eli.jo...@gmail.com wrote: Isn't there another image library you could use to resize? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appeng...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=.
Re: [google-appengine] Re: Limit on image size very low
Cynthia, I have good news for you: From here: http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/roadmap.html - Service for storing and serving large files It's coming! We hear you. On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Cynthia Kurtz cfku...@cfkurtz.com wrote: Sorry - to clarify - I wasn't talking about the imaging service, I was talking about the database limit. I had originally intended to have attachments to stories, which could include say PDF as well as audio and video and images. If there is a way to break up ANY binary data into 1MB chunks and get it in and out of the database cleanly, I'm all ears. On Nov 18, 5:51 pm, Cynthia Kurtz cfku...@cfkurtz.com wrote: Another issue is, the 1MB limit is incompatible with audio and video as well as just images. So it's not just an imaging library that is needed, it's everything. I had planned to have people be able to collect stories in audio format (say from old folks) and upload them to my site (Rakontu) but given the 1MB limit that's pretty much out of the question. That and the Timeouts and other gotchas make it hard to create anything that approximates real social media on GAE. :( But here's hoping it grows up over time. Moore's law is in our favor here. On Nov 18, 11:03 am, Bjoern bjoer...@googlemail.com wrote: If you have a suggestion, I wouldn't mind trying it. I suspect few python imaging libraries would be pure python, though. On Nov 17, 3:08 pm, Eli Jones eli.jo...@gmail.com wrote: Isn't there another image library you could use to resize? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appeng...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comgoogle-appengine%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=. -- Ikai Lan Developer Programs Engineer, Google App Engine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appeng...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=.
[google-appengine] Re: Limit on image size very low
Sure, my only application of the imaging API is to reduce the size of images that users upload, to display the small size on the web. It wouldn't happen very often, either (resize once, display n times). My only idea now is to maybe go through some other service that has an API - a photosharing service, for example. It is getting unnecessarily complicated, though. On Nov 17, 1:14 pm, Mikhail Kashkin mkash...@gmail.com wrote: Google App Engine is mostly oriented to Web applications. 1Mb size is enough for full screen pictures for most monitors. May be this one of the reasons. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appeng...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=.
[google-appengine] Re: Limit on image size very low
I totally agree. The 1MB size limit for database entities could remain for all I care. Just give me the chance to resize my users' 5MB images to ~300k versions. Besides, the 10MB request size limit seems out of place when seen beside the image api size limit. On Nov 16, 9:32 pm, Bjoern bjoer...@googlemail.com wrote: The latter - it throws an error if the image you try to manipulate is bigger than 1MB in memory. On Nov 16, 8:03 pm, Eli Jones eli.jo...@gmail.com wrote: I haven't used the Image api.. but.. do you mean the limit of 1MB for storing entities in the Datastore? Or, does it just throw errors if you try to manipulate an image in memory that is over 1MB? If you're just trying to get a 1MB image into the datastore, you could break it up into 1mb chunks before sticking it in the datastore. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appeng...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=.
Re: [google-appengine] Re: Limit on image size very low
Has everyone here actully stared the issue tracker request? http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=1422 thats far more likly to be taken notice of. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appeng...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=.
[google-appengine] Re: Limit on image size very low
Or not. On Nov 18, 6:11 am, Barry Hunter barrybhun...@googlemail.com wrote: Has everyone here actully stared the issue tracker request? http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=1422 thats far more likly to be taken notice of. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appeng...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=.
