Re: [google-appengine] Re: New Cloud Console

['Nick (Cloud Platform Support)' via Google App Engine]

Hey Stefano,

I believe I know what you're referring to - you used to be able to change 
the dispatch rules within the old console itself, no? Currently the 
established method to change dispatch rules is via deployment of the 
dispatch.yaml file 
.
 
If you'd like, you could make a feature request in the Public Issue Tracker 
 for dispatch rule 
management in the new console, as you can for any other feature request 
you'd like to see, whether related to the console or any other service.

Best of luck!

Nick
Cloud Platform Community Support

On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 4:12:08 AM UTC-4, Stefano Ciccarelli wrote:
>
> Thank you very much for sharing the FAQs, but there are no words about the 
> "dispatch" configuration.
>
>
> Il giorno lun 21 mar 2016 alle ore 19:30 'Lorne Kligerman' via Google App 
> Engine  ha scritto:
>
>> We've created a page with more specific details about the migration to 
>> the Cloud Console:
>> https://cloud.google.com/appengine/articles/console-faq
>>
>> Thanks for the suggestion about refreshing the instances view, noted!
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, March 19, 2016 at 12:33:58 PM UTC-7, mike wrote:
>>>
>>> Please keep the old console for longer!
>>>
>>> I really like the old console, way better than the new console. Old 
>>> console is clean and fast, new console slow and trying to offer too much.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, February 23, 2016 at 6:46:19 PM UTC-5, johnP wrote:

 Just got email that old appengine console will be shut off in 6 weeks.  
 The new cloud console does not have a "migrate traffic" option in the 
 Versions screen.  This was my absolute favorite new feature in a long, 
 long 
 time.  Will it be available in the new console?

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Re: [google-appengine] Re: New Cloud Console

[Stefano Ciccarelli]

Thank you very much for sharing the FAQs, but there are no words about the
"dispatch" configuration.


Il giorno lun 21 mar 2016 alle ore 19:30 'Lorne Kligerman' via Google App
Engine  ha scritto:

> We've created a page with more specific details about the migration to the
> Cloud Console:
> https://cloud.google.com/appengine/articles/console-faq
>
> Thanks for the suggestion about refreshing the instances view, noted!
>
>
> On Saturday, March 19, 2016 at 12:33:58 PM UTC-7, mike wrote:
>>
>> Please keep the old console for longer!
>>
>> I really like the old console, way better than the new console. Old
>> console is clean and fast, new console slow and trying to offer too much.
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 23, 2016 at 6:46:19 PM UTC-5, johnP wrote:
>>>
>>> Just got email that old appengine console will be shut off in 6 weeks.
>>> The new cloud console does not have a "migrate traffic" option in the
>>> Versions screen.  This was my absolute favorite new feature in a long, long
>>> time.  Will it be available in the new console?
>>>
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[google-appengine] Re: New Cloud Console

['Lorne Kligerman' via Google App Engine]

We've created a page with more specific details about the migration to the 
Cloud Console:
https://cloud.google.com/appengine/articles/console-faq

Thanks for the suggestion about refreshing the instances view, noted!


On Saturday, March 19, 2016 at 12:33:58 PM UTC-7, mike wrote:
>
> Please keep the old console for longer!
>
> I really like the old console, way better than the new console. Old 
> console is clean and fast, new console slow and trying to offer too much.
>
> On Tuesday, February 23, 2016 at 6:46:19 PM UTC-5, johnP wrote:
>>
>> Just got email that old appengine console will be shut off in 6 weeks. 
>>  The new cloud console does not have a "migrate traffic" option in the 
>> Versions screen.  This was my absolute favorite new feature in a long, long 
>> time.  Will it be available in the new console?
>>
>

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[google-appengine] Re: New Cloud Console

[johnP]

Glad this issue is getting lots of attention.  Another major issue for me 
is the Instances viewer.  The original console made it easy to hit refresh 
to see how many requests each instance has served, and how many errors for 
each instance.

With the new console, I do not know how to refresh the view.  Hitting 
refresh does not help.  Exiting and re-entering the screen does not help. 
 Searching for another 30 minutes to see if I missed the refresh button on 
the screen does not help (am I missing it after all these hours of 
searching?  Am I really dyslexic?)  

In general, it seems like the original console was built by engineers who 
used app engine and the new console is built with engineers who were told 
to 'make it better'  but don't use app engine at all.  Some really basic 
stuff is missing. 




On Tuesday, February 23, 2016 at 3:46:19 PM UTC-8, johnP wrote:
>
> Just got email that old appengine console will be shut off in 6 weeks. 
>  The new cloud console does not have a "migrate traffic" option in the 
> Versions screen.  This was my absolute favorite new feature in a long, long 
> time.  Will it be available in the new console?
>

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[google-appengine] Re: New Cloud Console

[mike]

Please keep the old console for longer!

I really like the old console, way better than the new console. Old console 
is clean and fast, new console slow and trying to offer too much.

On Tuesday, February 23, 2016 at 6:46:19 PM UTC-5, johnP wrote:
>
> Just got email that old appengine console will be shut off in 6 weeks. 
>  The new cloud console does not have a "migrate traffic" option in the 
> Versions screen.  This was my absolute favorite new feature in a long, long 
> time.  Will it be available in the new console?
>

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[google-appengine] Re: New Cloud Console

['Nick (Cloud Platform Support)' via Google App Engine]

Hey Kaan,

The best way to track these requests is to give them each their own unique, 
trackable thread in the Public Issue Tracker. 
 Your suggestions 
are excellent and I'd be sad to see them languish in a one-off comment in a 
long groups thread!

Best regards,

Nick
Cloud Platform Community Support

On Friday, March 18, 2016 at 4:01:11 PM UTC-4, Kaan Soral wrote:
>
> Since I have years of GAE experience, I just let things roll, so I didn't 
> complain when the new Console rolled out, just waiting things to play out 
> is more logical and sane
>
> However, I will just say this, the new console needs:
>
> *1) Logs in the Main Menu*
> *2) Usage History in the Main Menu, including Yesterday, maybe 
> unofficially until the calculations are final*
> *3) Daily Usage Total in the Dashboard *(the charges exist individually, 
> yet I'm not interested in calculating the total on my own, I just use the 
> calculation to quickly check that the app isn't consuming too much)
>
> I know the main comeback is to suggest a public tracker issue, yet I had 
> issues in the past, some recent, nothing happened, so I will just throw 
> these here
>
> 2 years ago I wrote my own Logs Viewer, as even back then the Logs Viewer 
> was unreliable, so I only used the console to check the usage and queues, 
> now I don't/can't use the new Console at all, if one of my apps went 
> haywire and spent $200 a day, I would refute the charges :) - as I'm 
> practically blind since this new Console is so impractical and cryptic
>
> Just list everything in one place goddammit
>

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[google-appengine] Re: New Cloud Console

['Nick (Cloud Platform Support)' via Google App Engine]

Hey John,

Feel free to file Feature Requests over at the Public Issue Tracker and 
we'll be more than happy to get started on tracking them!

Best regards,

Nick
Cloud Platform Community Support

On Friday, March 18, 2016 at 1:28:30 PM UTC-4, johnP wrote:
>
>
> I suppose the 'constructive suggestion' in this case is to include a 
> 'refresh' button on all screens :)
>
>
> On Friday, March 18, 2016 at 10:16:09 AM UTC-7, johnP wrote:
>>
>>
>> Glad this issue is getting lots of attention.  Another major issue for me 
>> is the Instances viewer.  The original console made it easy to hit refresh 
>> to see how many requests each instance has served, and how many errors for 
>> each instance.
>>
>> With the new console, I do not know how to refresh the view.  Hitting 
>> refresh does not help.  Exiting and re-entering the screen does not help. 
>>  Searching for another 30 minutes to see if I missed the refresh button on 
>> the screen does not help (am I missing it after all these hours of 
>> searching?  Am I really dyslexic?)  
>>
>> In general, it seems like the original console was built by engineers who 
>> used app engine and the new console is built with engineers who were told 
>> to 'make it better'  but don't use app engine at all.  Some really basic 
>> stuff is missing. 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 23, 2016 at 3:46:19 PM UTC-8, johnP wrote:
>>>
>>> Just got email that old appengine console will be shut off in 6 weeks. 
>>>  The new cloud console does not have a "migrate traffic" option in the 
>>> Versions screen.  This was my absolute favorite new feature in a long, long 
>>> time.  Will it be available in the new console?
>>>
>>

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[google-appengine] Re: New Cloud Console

[Kaan Soral]

Since I have years of GAE experience, I just let things roll, so I didn't 
complain when the new Console rolled out, just waiting things to play out 
is more logical and sane

However, I will just say this, the new console needs:

*1) Logs in the Main Menu*
*2) Usage History in the Main Menu, including Yesterday, maybe unofficially 
until the calculations are final*
*3) Daily Usage Total in the Dashboard *(the charges exist individually, 
yet I'm not interested in calculating the total on my own, I just use the 
calculation to quickly check that the app isn't consuming too much)

I know the main comeback is to suggest a public tracker issue, yet I had 
issues in the past, some recent, nothing happened, so I will just throw 
these here

2 years ago I wrote my own Logs Viewer, as even back then the Logs Viewer 
was unreliable, so I only used the console to check the usage and queues, 
now I don't/can't use the new Console at all, if one of my apps went 
haywire and spent $200 a day, I would refute the charges :) - as I'm 
practically blind since this new Console is so impractical and cryptic

Just list everything in one place goddammit

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[google-appengine] Re: New Cloud Console

[johnP]

I suppose the 'constructive suggestion' in this case is to include a 
'refresh' button on all screens :)


On Friday, March 18, 2016 at 10:16:09 AM UTC-7, johnP wrote:
>
>
> Glad this issue is getting lots of attention.  Another major issue for me 
> is the Instances viewer.  The original console made it easy to hit refresh 
> to see how many requests each instance has served, and how many errors for 
> each instance.
>
> With the new console, I do not know how to refresh the view.  Hitting 
> refresh does not help.  Exiting and re-entering the screen does not help. 
>  Searching for another 30 minutes to see if I missed the refresh button on 
> the screen does not help (am I missing it after all these hours of 
> searching?  Am I really dyslexic?)  
>
> In general, it seems like the original console was built by engineers who 
> used app engine and the new console is built with engineers who were told 
> to 'make it better'  but don't use app engine at all.  Some really basic 
> stuff is missing. 
>
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, February 23, 2016 at 3:46:19 PM UTC-8, johnP wrote:
>>
>> Just got email that old appengine console will be shut off in 6 weeks. 
>>  The new cloud console does not have a "migrate traffic" option in the 
>> Versions screen.  This was my absolute favorite new feature in a long, long 
>> time.  Will it be available in the new console?
>>
>

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[google-appengine] Re: New Cloud Console - Datastore viewer - _AE_Backup_Information KIND not found

['Urszula Krukar' via Google App Engine]

Hi Aswath,

We decided to hide those kinds since they are visible and edited in 
"Datastore Admin" builtin and user can break their "Datastore Admin" if 
they edit those kinds directly in the query view. This is the same reason 
why we hide other system kinds.

You can still see the content of those types if you type the names directly 
into the kind dropdown.

W dniu poniedziałek, 29 lutego 2016 00:09:31 UTC-5 użytkownik aswath 
napisał:
>
> Hello,
> In the new Cloud Console Datastore viewer (Datastore - Entities screen), I 
> cannot see _AE_Backup_Information KIND is not seen.  Also, other related 
> KINDS of backup (_AE_Backup_Information_kind_files etc..) are also not seen.
> Those KINDS are visible in the old Datastore Viewer.
>
> -Aswath
>

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[google-appengine] Re: New Cloud Console

['Nick (Cloud Platform Support)' via Google App Engine]

Hey Folks, 

Raj has done the best thing in this circumstance and that's to post to the 
Public 
Issue Tracker  if 
you have a feature request to make. It's much more likely that your request 
will be acknowledged if you post to the correct place, and at least in the 
Public Issue Tracker you have guaranteed triage of any feature requests, 
whereas in a Groups thread like this one, you pretty much rely on an 
informal method of someone reading your comment and taking time to work on 
it.

So, feel free to post any requests you have for the new Developers Console 
in the Public Issue Tracker for App Engine . You'll see it accepted and 
work begun relatively quickly.

Thanks,

Nick
Community Support

On Wednesday, February 24, 2016 at 9:14:31 AM UTC-5, bFlood wrote:
>
> how do you search/filter on the new log viewer? does it require enabling 
> Google Cloud Monitoring (which is still in beta)? 
>
> On Tuesday, February 23, 2016 at 6:46:19 PM UTC-5, johnP wrote:
>>
>> Just got email that old appengine console will be shut off in 6 weeks. 
>>  The new cloud console does not have a "migrate traffic" option in the 
>> Versions screen.  This was my absolute favorite new feature in a long, long 
>> time.  Will it be available in the new console?
>>
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[google-appengine] Re: New Cloud Console

[bFlood]

how do you search/filter on the new log viewer? does it require enabling 
Google Cloud Monitoring (which is still in beta)? 

On Tuesday, February 23, 2016 at 6:46:19 PM UTC-5, johnP wrote:
>
> Just got email that old appengine console will be shut off in 6 weeks. 
>  The new cloud console does not have a "migrate traffic" option in the 
> Versions screen.  This was my absolute favorite new feature in a long, long 
> time.  Will it be available in the new console?
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[google-appengine] Re: New Cloud Console

[Mark Cummins]

Will the logs viewer in the Cloud Console be improved before the App Engine 
console is shut down? The main reason I still use the old console is that I 
find the old logs viewer much more useful than the new one.

The new logs viewer is shows a view that is either totally collapsed 
(useless) or totally expanded (so verbose it's hard to see anything). The 
setup of the old viewer was ideal. (Semi-expanded, no headers, but showing 
one line of each log message in a request). It's really hard to get a quick 
sense of what's happening in the logs with the new viewer.

It has a number of other downsides, but I could mostly live with it if this 
basic usability issue was fixed.

On Tuesday, 23 February 2016 23:46:19 UTC, johnP wrote:
>
> Just got email that old appengine console will be shut off in 6 weeks. 
>  The new cloud console does not have a "migrate traffic" option in the 
> Versions screen.  This was my absolute favorite new feature in a long, long 
> time.  Will it be available in the new console?
>

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