[google-appengine] Re: Novice getting started: advice on getting to grips with App Engine
Thanks @Derrick and @Robert for your quick responses. I'll definitely check out those references and hope to get some apps up and running soon. On Nov 14, 8:37 pm, Derrick Schneider wrote: > I actually found the upcoming Code in the Cloud from Pragmatic Programmers > to be a good starting point. It won't give you a ton of depth, but it does > give you some examples that get you well grounded for the rest of the > AppEngine experience. > > On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 12:08 PM, Robert Kluin wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > For learning Python the docs, like the tutorial, at python.org are > > very useful. Dive Into Python is a pretty good reference. > > http://docs.python.org/tutorial/ > > http://diveintopython.org/ > > > If you are trying to get a handle on App Engine read through some of > > the reference. > > http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/python/overview.html > > You might want to focus on the webapp and datastore sections: > > http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/python/tools/webapp/ > > http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/python/datastore/ > > > There are many good resources for learning. If you have specific > > questions, or topics that are confusing post back to the list and I am > > sure people will offer suggestions about resources they find / found > > helpful. > > > Robert > > > On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 14:48, Aaron Jerling > > wrote: > > > Hi guys, > > > I've got an idea for a web app that I'd love to put together. I started > > off > > > (last week) learning PHP and SQL until someone pointed me towards app > > engine > > > as a better solution / platform to launch my project. I have no python > > > experience, limited html experience and despite going through the app > > engine > > > python tutorial seemed to have 'missed' the keys to getting started. > > > I do have programming experience (scientific languages like matlab, > > labview > > > etc.), and spent the last few days working through How To Learn Python > > The > > > Hard Way and have gotten through it alright. But I've got 20 pages left > > (out > > > of 160) and still have no real concept on how to get started. Are there > > any > > > good resources, tips or whatever that you know of to get me up to speed? > > > cheers. > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > > "Google App Engine" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to google-appeng...@googlegroups.com. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > > e...@googlegroups.com> > > . > > > For more options, visit this group at > > >http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "Google App Engine" group. > > To post to this group, send email to google-appeng...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > e...@googlegroups.com> > > . > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. > > -- > Writer. Programmer. Puzzle Designer.http://www.obsessionwithfood.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To post to this group, send email to google-appeng...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
[google-appengine] Re: Novice getting started: advice on getting to grips with App Engine
I assume you have checked out the getting started guide already, but since no one linked it yet: http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/python/gettingstarted/ this will take you from nothing to "hello world". On Nov 15, 1:30 am, Wim den Ouden wrote: > http://code.google.com/p/relat/wiki/gaetips > gr > wim > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 8:48 PM, Aaron Jerling > wrote: > > Hi guys, > > I've got an idea for a web app that I'd love to put together. I started off > > (last week) learning PHP and SQL until someone pointed me towards app engine > > as a better solution / platform to launch my project. I have no python > > experience, limited html experience and despite going through the app engine > > python tutorial seemed to have 'missed' the keys to getting started. > > I do have programming experience (scientific languages like matlab, labview > > etc.), and spent the last few days working through How To Learn Python The > > Hard Way and have gotten through it alright. But I've got 20 pages left (out > > of 160) and still have no real concept on how to get started. Are there any > > good resources, tips or whatever that you know of to get me up to speed? > > cheers. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "Google App Engine" group. > > To post to this group, send email to google-appeng...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. > > -- > gr > wdo > > Demo free E-business:https://e-comm.appspot.com > Wim den Ouden Google App Engine (cloud) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To post to this group, send email to google-appeng...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
[google-appengine] Re: Novice getting started: advice on getting to grips with App Engine
Hi there, I have gone through that tutorial, but as I mentioned i did miss the key points, so right now I'm brushing up on python and am just starting off with using python in conjuction with app engine. Resources I've found helpful so far (I left out the ones that could have been better): For Python (my first port of call in this mission and all very good) Learn Python the Hard Way http://docs.python.org/tutorial/ http://diveintopython.org/ - Python for Software design by Allen Downey For google apps Oreilly - Programming Google Apps Engine (just working through this now) As soon as I've been through this book I'll have a look at the google apps getting started guide and docs again. On Nov 15, 7:53 pm, Ben wrote: > I assume you have checked out the getting started guide already, but > since no one linked it > yet:http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/python/gettingstarted/ > this will take you from nothing to "hello world". > > On Nov 15, 1:30 am, Wim den Ouden wrote: > > > > > > > > >http://code.google.com/p/relat/wiki/gaetips > > gr > > wim > > > On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 8:48 PM, Aaron Jerling > > wrote: > > > Hi guys, > > > I've got an idea for a web app that I'd love to put together. I started > > > off > > > (last week) learning PHP and SQL until someone pointed me towards app > > > engine > > > as a better solution / platform to launch my project. I have no python > > > experience, limited html experience and despite going through the app > > > engine > > > python tutorial seemed to have 'missed' the keys to getting started. > > > I do have programming experience (scientific languages like matlab, > > > labview > > > etc.), and spent the last few days working through How To Learn Python The > > > Hard Way and have gotten through it alright. But I've got 20 pages left > > > (out > > > of 160) and still have no real concept on how to get started. Are there > > > any > > > good resources, tips or whatever that you know of to get me up to speed? > > > cheers. > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > > "Google App Engine" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to google-appeng...@googlegroups.com. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > > For more options, visit this group at > > >http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. > > > -- > > gr > > wdo > > > Demo free E-business:https://e-comm.appspot.com > > Wim den Ouden Google App Engine (cloud) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To post to this group, send email to google-appeng...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
[google-appengine] Re: Novice getting started: advice on getting to grips with App Engine
So how do you have access to a book that isnt even in print yet? Sounds like more of a boast than a recommendation. On Nov 14, 3:37 pm, Derrick Schneider wrote: > I actually found the upcoming Code in the Cloud from Pragmatic Programmers > to be a good starting point. It won't give you a ton of depth, but it does > give you some examples that get you well grounded for the rest of the > AppEngine experience. > > On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 12:08 PM, Robert Kluin wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > For learning Python the docs, like the tutorial, at python.org are > > very useful. Dive Into Python is a pretty good reference. > > http://docs.python.org/tutorial/ > > http://diveintopython.org/ > > > If you are trying to get a handle on App Engine read through some of > > the reference. > > http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/python/overview.html > > You might want to focus on the webapp and datastore sections: > > http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/python/tools/webapp/ > > http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/python/datastore/ > > > There are many good resources for learning. If you have specific > > questions, or topics that are confusing post back to the list and I am > > sure people will offer suggestions about resources they find / found > > helpful. > > > Robert > > > On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 14:48, Aaron Jerling > > wrote: > > > Hi guys, > > > I've got an idea for a web app that I'd love to put together. I started > > off > > > (last week) learning PHP and SQL until someone pointed me towards app > > engine > > > as a better solution / platform to launch my project. I have no python > > > experience, limited html experience and despite going through the app > > engine > > > python tutorial seemed to have 'missed' the keys to getting started. > > > I do have programming experience (scientific languages like matlab, > > labview > > > etc.), and spent the last few days working through How To Learn Python > > The > > > Hard Way and have gotten through it alright. But I've got 20 pages left > > (out > > > of 160) and still have no real concept on how to get started. Are there > > any > > > good resources, tips or whatever that you know of to get me up to speed? > > > cheers. > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > > "Google App Engine" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to google-appeng...@googlegroups.com. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > > e...@googlegroups.com> > > . > > > For more options, visit this group at > > >http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "Google App Engine" group. > > To post to this group, send email to google-appeng...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > e...@googlegroups.com> > > . > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. > > -- > Writer. Programmer. Puzzle Designer.http://www.obsessionwithfood.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To post to this group, send email to google-appeng...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
[google-appengine] Re: Novice getting started: advice on getting to grips with App Engine
Hi there, not sure if that unpublished comment was directed at my list - and if so, not sure why... Anyway Martin I have had a look at the GAE tutorial and it was useful, however I wasn't clear on the very basics of python spits out this variable / object, the seperate html file displays said variable / object to the user. The tutorial just jumps in the deep end. A good friend of mine helped me understand it though - I'll put some code on github soon showing how to do it in baby steps (suitable for novices like me). Aaron On Nov 16, 8:19 pm, Martin Melin wrote: > On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 10:06 PM, B Woods wrote: > > So how do you have access to a book that isnt even in print yet? > > Sounds like more of a boast than a recommendation. > > Chill out. They publish upcoming books in "beta" - you get an ebook > version right away and new "releases" of the book every now and then. > > OP: If you've gone through Learn Python the Hard Way and think you get > it, I'd start out with Google'sGettingStartedguide for Python that > Ben linked to. I thought it was great for agettingstartedguide and > you get to upload an app pretty quickly. > > Cheers, > Martin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To post to this group, send email to google-appeng...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
Re: [google-appengine] Re: Novice getting started: advice on getting to grips with App Engine
On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 10:06 PM, B Woods wrote: > So how do you have access to a book that isnt even in print yet? > Sounds like more of a boast than a recommendation. Chill out. They publish upcoming books in "beta" - you get an ebook version right away and new "releases" of the book every now and then. OP: If you've gone through Learn Python the Hard Way and think you get it, I'd start out with Google's Getting Started guide for Python that Ben linked to. I thought it was great for a getting started guide and you get to upload an app pretty quickly. Cheers, Martin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To post to this group, send email to google-appeng...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
