[google-appengine] Re: Roadmap for SSL on 3rd party domains?
According to the issue tracker someone started working on it last week: http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=792 According to the App Engine For Business Roadmap it will be a limited release by the end of this year: http://code.google.com/appengine/business/roadmap.html What I really would like to know is how they're going to do it: sni (could be free once you have the cert), fixed ip (will cost something) or some other voodoo. I don't see why this is a showstopper for you though. On Oct 20, 7:03 am, David Parks davidpark...@yahoo.com wrote: All the posts about this seem to be from 2008. I see SSL for 3rd party domains is on the roadmap. Anyone have any insight about approximately when this might become a reality? I started developing an app for app-engine, but this is an obvious show stopper that I overlooked. I need to know if I should jump ship early or keep onboard. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appeng...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
RE: [google-appengine] Re: Roadmap for SSL on 3rd party domains?
Great info, this is exactly what I couldn't track down, thanks! I'll keep apprised of changes, that might just coincide with our release, or at least shortly thereafter and I'll be able to migrate back onto GAE soon. I can't imagine lack of SSL not being a showstopper, to me it makes a webhosting provider irrelevant without it. Specifically we will process credit card transactions and need to accept and relay the financial data (not just doing a paypal/google payments re-directs because we offer a more complex auto re-charge option requiring us to handle the card info and obtain a transaction id for future reference). Beyond that in general I don't want account pages unsecured. I can't think of many websites of significance that don't employ SSL somewhere. And of course re-directs to myapp.appspot.com is just unprofessional, unacceptable, and I imagine a pain in the rear with cookie/session issues (that's would be one ugly hack). Thanks for the quick and detailed response! It was very helpful! Dave -Original Message- From: google-appengine@googlegroups.com [mailto:google-appeng...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kenneth Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 10:10 PM To: Google App Engine Subject: [google-appengine] Re: Roadmap for SSL on 3rd party domains? According to the issue tracker someone started working on it last week: http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=792 According to the App Engine For Business Roadmap it will be a limited release by the end of this year: http://code.google.com/appengine/business/roadmap.html What I really would like to know is how they're going to do it: sni (could be free once you have the cert), fixed ip (will cost something) or some other voodoo. I don't see why this is a showstopper for you though. On Oct 20, 7:03 am, David Parks davidpark...@yahoo.com wrote: All the posts about this seem to be from 2008. I see SSL for 3rd party domains is on the roadmap. Anyone have any insight about approximately when this might become a reality? I started developing an app for app-engine, but this is an obvious show stopper that I overlooked. I need to know if I should jump ship early or keep onboard. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appeng...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appeng...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
Re: [google-appengine] Re: Roadmap for SSL on 3rd party domains?
David, We agree with you about SSL. It's a high priority item for us. It's just a bit more work for us to make this piece work. You may want to look into using a third-party provider for payments, though. I bring this up simply because unless you are a billing provider, dealing with money, payments and subscriptions is a mess and it would be a good idea to outsource it so you can focus on your core product. Here's a startup I've heard a bit about that isn't PayPal or Google Checkout: http://chargify.com/ There are also others, and I'd like to welcome folks to post providers they use. -- Ikai Lan Developer Programs Engineer, Google App Engine Blogger: http://googleappengine.blogspot.com Reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/appengine Twitter: http://twitter.com/app_engine On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 9:20 AM, David Parks davidpark...@yahoo.com wrote: Great info, this is exactly what I couldn't track down, thanks! I'll keep apprised of changes, that might just coincide with our release, or at least shortly thereafter and I'll be able to migrate back onto GAE soon. I can't imagine lack of SSL not being a showstopper, to me it makes a webhosting provider irrelevant without it. Specifically we will process credit card transactions and need to accept and relay the financial data (not just doing a paypal/google payments re-directs because we offer a more complex auto re-charge option requiring us to handle the card info and obtain a transaction id for future reference). Beyond that in general I don't want account pages unsecured. I can't think of many websites of significance that don't employ SSL somewhere. And of course re-directs to myapp.appspot.com is just unprofessional, unacceptable, and I imagine a pain in the rear with cookie/session issues (that's would be one ugly hack). Thanks for the quick and detailed response! It was very helpful! Dave -Original Message- From: google-appengine@googlegroups.com [mailto:google-appeng...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kenneth Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 10:10 PM To: Google App Engine Subject: [google-appengine] Re: Roadmap for SSL on 3rd party domains? According to the issue tracker someone started working on it last week: http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=792 According to the App Engine For Business Roadmap it will be a limited release by the end of this year: http://code.google.com/appengine/business/roadmap.html What I really would like to know is how they're going to do it: sni (could be free once you have the cert), fixed ip (will cost something) or some other voodoo. I don't see why this is a showstopper for you though. On Oct 20, 7:03 am, David Parks davidpark...@yahoo.com wrote: All the posts about this seem to be from 2008. I see SSL for 3rd party domains is on the roadmap. Anyone have any insight about approximately when this might become a reality? I started developing an app for app-engine, but this is an obvious show stopper that I overlooked. I need to know if I should jump ship early or keep onboard. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appeng...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comgoogle-appengine%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appeng...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comgoogle-appengine%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appeng...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
RE: [google-appengine] Re: Roadmap for SSL on 3rd party domains?
We actually did the integration ourselves using paypal as a processor. With approval you can do reference transactions where paypal maintains all of the card data and provides a transaction ID with which you can make future charges without re-requesting payment information from the client (we offer an auto-recharge pre-paid plan similar to a pre-paid phone). All in all it was only a few weeks of work to hook up the paypal APIs. Hence we're just a middle man in the process, but the user stays on our site (professional and clean appearance), and easy to do. I don't think you can pull that off with the cart options. Anyway, thanks for the response. For now we'll probably have to host ourselves on Amazon EC2, but will look at migrating onto google again later, I love the concept you've put together for hosting, it's the best out there. Dave From: google-appengine@googlegroups.com [mailto:google-appeng...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ikai Lan (Google) Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 1:36 AM To: google-appengine@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [google-appengine] Re: Roadmap for SSL on 3rd party domains? David, We agree with you about SSL. It's a high priority item for us. It's just a bit more work for us to make this piece work. You may want to look into using a third-party provider for payments, though. I bring this up simply because unless you are a billing provider, dealing with money, payments and subscriptions is a mess and it would be a good idea to outsource it so you can focus on your core product. Here's a startup I've heard a bit about that isn't PayPal or Google Checkout: http://chargify.com/ There are also others, and I'd like to welcome folks to post providers they use. -- Ikai Lan Developer Programs Engineer, Google App Engine Blogger: http://googleappengine.blogspot.com http://googleappengine.blogspot.com/ Reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/appengine Twitter: http://twitter.com/app_engine On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 9:20 AM, David Parks davidpark...@yahoo.com wrote: Great info, this is exactly what I couldn't track down, thanks! I'll keep apprised of changes, that might just coincide with our release, or at least shortly thereafter and I'll be able to migrate back onto GAE soon. I can't imagine lack of SSL not being a showstopper, to me it makes a webhosting provider irrelevant without it. Specifically we will process credit card transactions and need to accept and relay the financial data (not just doing a paypal/google payments re-directs because we offer a more complex auto re-charge option requiring us to handle the card info and obtain a transaction id for future reference). Beyond that in general I don't want account pages unsecured. I can't think of many websites of significance that don't employ SSL somewhere. And of course re-directs to myapp.appspot.com is just unprofessional, unacceptable, and I imagine a pain in the rear with cookie/session issues (that's would be one ugly hack). Thanks for the quick and detailed response! It was very helpful! Dave -Original Message- From: google-appengine@googlegroups.com [mailto:google-appeng...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kenneth Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 10:10 PM To: Google App Engine Subject: [google-appengine] Re: Roadmap for SSL on 3rd party domains? According to the issue tracker someone started working on it last week: http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=792 According to the App Engine For Business Roadmap it will be a limited release by the end of this year: http://code.google.com/appengine/business/roadmap.html What I really would like to know is how they're going to do it: sni (could be free once you have the cert), fixed ip (will cost something) or some other voodoo. I don't see why this is a showstopper for you though. On Oct 20, 7:03 am, David Parks davidpark...@yahoo.com wrote: All the posts about this seem to be from 2008. I see SSL for 3rd party domains is on the roadmap. Anyone have any insight about approximately when this might become a reality? I started developing an app for app-engine, but this is an obvious show stopper that I overlooked. I need to know if I should jump ship early or keep onboard. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appeng...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:google-appengine%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appeng...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:google-appengine%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com
