[google-appengine] Re: Why GAE is very expensive?
My biggest gripe about GAE pricing is the $39/month for VIP SSL. If you want a custom domain and aren't yet ready to make the SNI leap then you have a $39/month floor just because you want a secure site. I think GAE has us surrounded with enough other pricing boxes that they don't need to extract a fee to protect against session hijacking and such. On Monday, October 7, 2013 7:41:03 AM UTC-4, Claudio Antunes wrote: I think App Engine is very, very good, but it is very, very expensive. Yesterday I was testing my application and I've did a comparison: About 600,000 pageviews delivered, I paid US$ 35 to Google. I'm using Frontend Instance Class F1 and 50 Max Idle Instances and 4.0s to Min Pending Latency. On my current hosting, VPS.NET http://vps.net/, I pay US$ 30 daily to have 2 machines with 38.4GHz Dedicated CPU and 6152MB Dedicated RAM to delivery my application. As I use it only 12 hours, I pay only US$ 15. So App Engine Is very, but very, but very expensive. And if I enable the Cloud SQL, it will be yet more expensive. There is anyway to reduce the price? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[google-appengine] Re: Why GAE is very expensive?
Yes, yes, yes there is :) Don't set max idle instances to 50 It's like saying, I have a shitload of money, so you can keep 50 idle instances for nothing, just in case something happens Especially at short bursts, those idle instances fire, and you get to pay the hourly cost I think appengine is much more economical than alternative scenarios, if used right, it's obviously challenging and quirky pageview is also ambiguous, I have 1 rpc / mostly html sections of an existing app, they did generate millions of views at one point, but I didn't see any significant increase in my costs There are many things to consider, for example do you have threadsafe: true etc. etc. I used to have idle instances high, it cost more than necessary bills for a short span of time for me Also I've recently discovered newly(?) modified weekly discounted hours functionality, still mourning my losses, the first implementation was ridiculous, current one is a must have On Monday, October 7, 2013 2:41:03 PM UTC+3, Claudio Antunes wrote: I think App Engine is very, very good, but it is very, very expensive. Yesterday I was testing my application and I've did a comparison: About 600,000 pageviews delivered, I paid US$ 35 to Google. I'm using Frontend Instance Class F1 and 50 Max Idle Instances and 4.0s to Min Pending Latency. On my current hosting, VPS.NET http://vps.net/, I pay US$ 30 daily to have 2 machines with 38.4GHz Dedicated CPU and 6152MB Dedicated RAM to delivery my application. As I use it only 12 hours, I pay only US$ 15. So App Engine Is very, but very, but very expensive. And if I enable the Cloud SQL, it will be yet more expensive. There is anyway to reduce the price? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[google-appengine] Re: Why GAE is very expensive?
There are at least 2 things that have to be pointed out here. First, I hate to say it, but you are probably comparing apples and oranges to some extent. You say the Google solution is more expensive than your VPS solution. However, part of what you are paying for with the Google solution is Internet level scalability. In theory, if your app suddenly becomes very popular and you are on GAE, fine - you pay for more resources of course, but your app is available. Your VPS solution likely just quits under the same scenario. That option, that capability, costs money. Still related to this, there may be other features or aspects of the GAE environment that you or others find preferable to the VPS solution. What this might be is difficult to say and the list could be endless (the admin console, the programming environment, ease of operation, working with the datastore ...). The point being that comparing the cost per pageview, with no other comparison on the table, is a very incomplete picture. Second, and if not in answer, at least addressing your final statement / question ... yes, there are ways to reduce the price. It may be the case that your application is not optimized for the platform. Or more correctly, it may be that there exist further opportunities for cost optimization in your application. In my personal experience, there have been times when I have decreased the average daily cost of an application by 40% by looking at it for 10 minutes (discounted instance hours). Other times I have reduced operational cost simply with more caching that still met the business objectives. Other times, different strategies for certain uses of the datastore may come in. There is no checklist to go through. It is one of those it depends kinds of things. On Monday, October 7, 2013 6:41:03 AM UTC-5, Claudio Antunes wrote: I think App Engine is very, very good, but it is very, very expensive. Yesterday I was testing my application and I've did a comparison: About 600,000 pageviews delivered, I paid US$ 35 to Google. I'm using Frontend Instance Class F1 and 50 Max Idle Instances and 4.0s to Min Pending Latency. On my current hosting, VPS.NET http://vps.net/, I pay US$ 30 daily to have 2 machines with 38.4GHz Dedicated CPU and 6152MB Dedicated RAM to delivery my application. As I use it only 12 hours, I pay only US$ 15. So App Engine Is very, but very, but very expensive. And if I enable the Cloud SQL, it will be yet more expensive. There is anyway to reduce the price? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
