[google-appengine] Re: email issue with Google Apps e-mail "Group"

2009-05-05 Thread Nick Johnson (Google)

Hi Sylvain,

Unfortunately, it's not possible to post to a group from Google App
Engine. As you can see from the bounce message, App Engine sets the
sender address to an autogenerated 'bounce' address, and it's the
sender address that Google Groups checks to verify if a user can post.

-Nick Johnson

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[google-appengine] Re: email issue with Google Apps e-mail "Group"

2009-05-05 Thread Sylvain

Just to be cleared : I don't want to send a mail to a "Google Group"
but to a Google Apps "group" (group for "Google Apps For your
Domain" / e-mail user&group)

I don't understand why it doesn't work because my group is to set
"public" (not team,...)
So all e-mail adresses should work.

It's an issue to GAE or Google Apps ?

Regards



On 5 mai, 11:55, "Nick Johnson (Google)" 
wrote:
> Hi Sylvain,
>
> Unfortunately, it's not possible to post to a group from Google App
> Engine. As you can see from the bounce message, App Engine sets the
> sender address to an autogenerated 'bounce' address, and it's the
> sender address that Google Groups checks to verify if a user can post.
>
> -Nick Johnson
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[google-appengine] Re: email issue with Google Apps e-mail "Group"

2009-05-05 Thread Nick Johnson (Google)

Hi Sylvain,

The answer is the same: The group is prohibiting posts from a sender
address it doesn't recognise. Since you can't change the sender
address with the App Engine email API, the only way around this is to
change your group's settings to allow posts from non-members, if
that's possible.

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[google-appengine] Re: email issue with Google Apps e-mail "Group"

2009-05-05 Thread Sylvain

Yes, the group settings ar ok.

Everybody can send a mail to this group even if this adress belongs or
not to the Google Apps domain.

In google app, this group is set to "Public"(For topics of general
interest. Email is unrestricted.)
So e-mail is "unrestricted" and all e-mails (@gmail, @,
@yahoo.com, @hotmail,...) can send a mail to this group.

http://www.google.com/support/a/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=126169

A mail like this it should work : @apphosting.bounces.google.com
So, there is an issue.

Sylvain


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wrote:
> Hi Sylvain,
>
> The answer is the same: The group is prohibiting posts from a sender
> address it doesn't recognise. Since you can't change the sender
> address with the App Engine email API, the only way around this is to
> change your group's settings to allow posts from non-members, if
> that's possible.
>
> -Nick Johnson
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[google-appengine] Re: email issue with Google Apps e-mail "Group"

2009-05-05 Thread Nick Johnson (Google)

Hi Sylvain,

Even for groups that are marked 'public', they generally require that
the sender be a member of the group before they can post. In addition
to setting the group as "public", you also need to select "anyone can
post" under "who can post messages?" on the Access tab of the group's
settings.

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[google-appengine] Re: email issue with Google Apps e-mail "Group"

2009-05-05 Thread Sylvain

Yes, this group is correctly parameter.

I'm just testing to send a mail to support@.com with my gmail
adress and many other e-mail adresses (hotmail,... etc,...). And all
my tests work.

So there is only an issue with mails from GAE.

Sylvain



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wrote:
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>
> Even for groups that are marked 'public', they generally require that
> the sender be a member of the group before they can post. In addition
> to setting the group as "public", you also need to select "anyone can
> post" under "who can post messages?" on the Access tab of the group's
> settings.
>
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[google-appengine] Re: email issue with Google Apps e-mail "Group"

2009-05-05 Thread Sylvain

I don't think we are talking about the same thing.
You are talking about "Post a message".
I just want to "send" a mail

Here is a picture about what I'm talking.

http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gappgroup.jpg

Sylvain

On 5 mai, 13:57, Sylvain  wrote:
> Yes, this group is correctly parameter.
>
> I'm just testing to send a mail to support@.com with my gmail
> adress and many other e-mail adresses (hotmail,... etc,...). And all
> my tests work.
>
> So there is only an issue with mails from GAE.
>
> Sylvain
>
> On 5 mai, 13:42, "Nick Johnson (Google)" 
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Sylvain,
>
> > Even for groups that are marked 'public', they generally require that
> > the sender be a member of the group before they can post. In addition
> > to setting the group as "public", you also need to select "anyone can
> > post" under "who can post messages?" on the Access tab of the group's
> > settings.
>
> > -Nick Johnson
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[google-appengine] Re: email issue with Google Apps e-mail "Group"

2009-05-06 Thread Sylvain

Maybe the issue is related to a spf record ?
http://www.google.com/support/a/bin/static.py?page=known_issues.cs#

But before changing the spf records, I need to be sure that it will
work.

If GAE can't send a mail to a Google Apps group (of users) (which is
not related to Google [G]roups), it is a very big issue for such a
basic feature.

Google Apps and GAE seem to be "linked" but it fails to send a mail...

Regards.


On 5 mai, 14:05, Sylvain  wrote:
> I don't think we are talking about the same thing.
> You are talking about "Post a message".
> I just want to "send" a mail
>
> Here is a picture about what I'm talking.
>
> http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gappgroup.jpg
>
> Sylvain
>
> On 5 mai, 13:57, Sylvain  wrote:
>
> > Yes, this group is correctly parameter.
>
> > I'm just testing to send a mail to support@.com with my gmail
> > adress and many other e-mail adresses (hotmail,... etc,...). And all
> > my tests work.
>
> > So there is only an issue with mails from GAE.
>
> > Sylvain
>
> > On 5 mai, 13:42, "Nick Johnson (Google)" 
> > wrote:
>
> > > Hi Sylvain,
>
> > > Even for groups that are marked 'public', they generally require that
> > > the sender be a member of the group before they can post. In addition
> > > to setting the group as "public", you also need to select "anyone can
> > > post" under "who can post messages?" on the Access tab of the group's
> > > settings.
>
> > > -Nick Johnson
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[google-appengine] Re: email issue with Google Apps e-mail "Group"

2009-05-07 Thread Srid

Sylvain

I am having this same problem.  Did you find any solution?

thx
Srid

On May 5, 8:05 am, Sylvain  wrote:
> I don't think we are talking about the same thing.
> You are talking about "Post a message".
> I just want to "send" a mail
>
> Here is a picture about what I'm talking.
>
> http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gappgroup.jpg
>
> Sylvain
>
> On 5 mai, 13:57, Sylvain  wrote:
>
> > Yes, this group is correctly parameter.
>
> > I'm just testing to send a mail to support@.com with my gmail
> > adress and many other e-mail adresses (hotmail,... etc,...). And all
> > my tests work.
>
> > So there is only an issue with mails from GAE.
>
> > Sylvain
>
> > On 5 mai, 13:42, "Nick Johnson (Google)" 
> > wrote:
>
> > > Hi Sylvain,
>
> > > Even for groups that are marked 'public', they generally require that
> > > the sender be a member of the group before they can post. In addition
> > > to setting the group as "public", you also need to select "anyone can
> > > post" under "who can post messages?" on the Access tab of the group's
> > > settings.
>
> > > -Nick Johnson
>
>

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[google-appengine] Re: email issue with Google Apps e-mail "Group"

2009-05-07 Thread Sylvain

No,

I've posted a question on the Google Apps help "forum".
And there  is no "good" answer (spf ?)

So I'm waiting for a googler with a solution else I will fill a bug.
But I don't know where is the issue : GAE or Google Apps, so it is
very difficult.

Regards.

On 5 mai, 18:46, Srid  wrote:
> Sylvain
>
> I am having this same problem.  Did you find any solution?
>
> thx
> Srid
>
> On May 5, 8:05 am, Sylvain  wrote:
>
> > I don't think we are talking about the same thing.
> > You are talking about "Post a message".
> > I just want to "send" a mail
>
> > Here is a picture about what I'm talking.
>
> >http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gappgroup.jpg
>
> > Sylvain
>
> > On 5 mai, 13:57, Sylvain  wrote:
>
> > > Yes, this group is correctly parameter.
>
> > > I'm just testing to send a mail to support@.com with my gmail
> > > adress and many other e-mail adresses (hotmail,... etc,...). And all
> > > my tests work.
>
> > > So there is only an issue with mails from GAE.
>
> > > Sylvain
>
> > > On 5 mai, 13:42, "Nick Johnson (Google)" 
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > Hi Sylvain,
>
> > > > Even for groups that are marked 'public', they generally require that
> > > > the sender be a member of the group before they can post. In addition
> > > > to setting the group as "public", you also need to select "anyone can
> > > > post" under "who can post messages?" on the Access tab of the group's
> > > > settings.
>
> > > > -Nick Johnson
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[google-appengine] Re: email issue with Google Apps e-mail "Group"

2009-05-12 Thread Sylvain

For me it's a very big issue.
Currently the dev is frozen.

So I've created an issue here : 
http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=1530

Maybe I could have more help from the Google Apps team ?

Regards.


On 7 mai, 16:11, Sylvain  wrote:
> No,
>
> I've posted a question on the Google Apps help "forum".
> And there  is no "good" answer (spf ?)
>
> So I'm waiting for a googler with a solution else I will fill a bug.
> But I don't know where is the issue : GAE or Google Apps, so it is
> very difficult.
>
> Regards.
>
> On 5 mai, 18:46, Srid  wrote:
>
> > Sylvain
>
> > I am having this same problem.  Did you find any solution?
>
> > thx
> > Srid
>
> > On May 5, 8:05 am, Sylvain  wrote:
>
> > > I don't think we are talking about the same thing.
> > > You are talking about "Post a message".
> > > I just want to "send" a mail
>
> > > Here is a picture about what I'm talking.
>
> > >http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gappgroup.jpg
>
> > > Sylvain
>
> > > On 5 mai, 13:57, Sylvain  wrote:
>
> > > > Yes, thisgroupis correctly parameter.
>
> > > > I'm just testing to send a mail to support@.com with my gmail
> > > > adress and many other e-mail adresses (hotmail,... etc,...). And all
> > > > my tests work.
>
> > > > So there is only an issue with mails from GAE.
>
> > > > Sylvain
>
> > > > On 5 mai, 13:42, "Nick Johnson (Google)" 
> > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > Hi Sylvain,
>
> > > > > Even for groups that are marked 'public', they generally require that
> > > > > the sender be a member of thegroupbefore they can post. In addition
> > > > > to setting thegroupas "public", you also need to select "anyone can
> > > > > post" under "who can post messages?" on the Access tab of thegroup's
> > > > > settings.
>
> > > > > -Nick Johnson
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[google-appengine] Re: email issue with Google Apps e-mail "Group"

2009-05-15 Thread Jason (Google)
I have a personal Google Apps domain; I created a new group, set it to
"Public" and made sure to check the "Any email address" box in the "Who can
send email to this group" section. I verified that I my App Engine app could
send mail both to individuals and this particular group in my domain.

This leads me to believe that there is a different issue. Can you confirm
whether you are able to send mail to an individual using the same code as
you have set up for the group (just swapping out the 'to' address)? Can you
also confirm whether the "Any email address" box is selected in your Google
Apps dashboard?

Thanks,
- Jason

On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 2:16 AM, Sylvain  wrote:

>
> For me it's a very big issue.
> Currently the dev is frozen.
>
> So I've created an issue here :
> http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=1530
>
> Maybe I could have more help from the Google Apps team ?
>
> Regards.
>
>
> On 7 mai, 16:11, Sylvain  wrote:
> > No,
> >
> > I've posted a question on the Google Apps help "forum".
> > And there  is no "good" answer (spf ?)
> >
> > So I'm waiting for a googler with a solution else I will fill a bug.
> > But I don't know where is the issue : GAE or Google Apps, so it is
> > very difficult.
> >
> > Regards.
> >
> > On 5 mai, 18:46, Srid  wrote:
> >
> > > Sylvain
> >
> > > I am having this same problem.  Did you find any solution?
> >
> > > thx
> > > Srid
> >
> > > On May 5, 8:05 am, Sylvain  wrote:
> >
> > > > I don't think we are talking about the same thing.
> > > > You are talking about "Post a message".
> > > > I just want to "send" a mail
> >
> > > > Here is a picture about what I'm talking.
> >
> > > >http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gappgroup.jpg
> >
> > > > Sylvain
> >
> > > > On 5 mai, 13:57, Sylvain  wrote:
> >
> > > > > Yes, thisgroupis correctly parameter.
> >
> > > > > I'm just testing to send a mail to support@.com with my
> gmail
> > > > > adress and many other e-mail adresses (hotmail,... etc,...). And
> all
> > > > > my tests work.
> >
> > > > > So there is only an issue with mails from GAE.
> >
> > > > > Sylvain
> >
> > > > > On 5 mai, 13:42, "Nick Johnson (Google)" 
> > > > > wrote:
> >
> > > > > > Hi Sylvain,
> >
> > > > > > Even for groups that are marked 'public', they generally require
> that
> > > > > > the sender be a member of thegroupbefore they can post. In
> addition
> > > > > > to setting thegroupas "public", you also need to select "anyone
> can
> > > > > > post" under "who can post messages?" on the Access tab of
> thegroup's
> > > > > > settings.
> >
> > > > > > -Nick Johnson
> >
>

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[google-appengine] Re: email issue with Google Apps e-mail "Group"

2009-05-16 Thread Sylvain

Hi Jason, thank you for your help

Yes, currently my app can send a mail to a "simple" user.
It's a cron and each day I receive a mail, so it works fine.

Now if I swap the user by a group (set to Public, Any email adress) :
it fails.

You can check the permissions here, this screenshot here :
http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gappgroup.jpg
or here http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=1530
(many screenshots)

In this issue (1530), I have add many details.

I hope it can help.

Regards.



On 16 mai, 01:07, "Jason (Google)"  wrote:
> I have a personal Google Apps domain; I created a new group, set it to
> "Public" and made sure to check the "Any email address" box in the "Who can
> send email to this group" section. I verified that I my App Engine app could
> send mail both to individuals and this particular group in my domain.
>
> This leads me to believe that there is a different issue. Can you confirm
> whether you are able to send mail to an individual using the same code as
> you have set up for the group (just swapping out the 'to' address)? Can you
> also confirm whether the "Any email address" box is selected in your Google
> Apps dashboard?
>
> Thanks,
> - Jason
>
> On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 2:16 AM, Sylvain  wrote:
>
> > For me it's a very big issue.
> > Currently the dev is frozen.
>
> > So I've created an issue here :
> >http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=1530
>
> > Maybe I could have more help from the Google Apps team ?
>
> > Regards.
>
> > On 7 mai, 16:11, Sylvain  wrote:
> > > No,
>
> > > I've posted a question on the Google Apps help "forum".
> > > And there  is no "good" answer (spf ?)
>
> > > So I'm waiting for a googler with a solution else I will fill a bug.
> > > But I don't know where is the issue : GAE or Google Apps, so it is
> > > very difficult.
>
> > > Regards.
>
> > > On 5 mai, 18:46, Srid  wrote:
>
> > > > Sylvain
>
> > > > I am having this same problem.  Did you find any solution?
>
> > > > thx
> > > > Srid
>
> > > > On May 5, 8:05 am, Sylvain  wrote:
>
> > > > > I don't think we are talking about the same thing.
> > > > > You are talking about "Post a message".
> > > > > I just want to "send" a mail
>
> > > > > Here is a picture about what I'm talking.
>
> > > > >http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gappgroup.jpg
>
> > > > > Sylvain
>
> > > > > On 5 mai, 13:57, Sylvain  wrote:
>
> > > > > > Yes, thisgroupis correctly parameter.
>
> > > > > > I'm just testing to send a mail to support@.com with my
> > gmail
> > > > > > adress and many other e-mail adresses (hotmail,... etc,...). And
> > all
> > > > > > my tests work.
>
> > > > > > So there is only an issue with mails from GAE.
>
> > > > > > Sylvain
>
> > > > > > On 5 mai, 13:42, "Nick Johnson (Google)" 
> > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > Hi Sylvain,
>
> > > > > > > Even for groups that are marked 'public', they generally require
> > that
> > > > > > > the sender be a member of thegroupbefore they can post. In
> > addition
> > > > > > > to setting thegroupas "public", you also need to select "anyone
> > can
> > > > > > > post" under "who can post messages?" on the Access tab of
> > thegroup's
> > > > > > > settings.
>
> > > > > > > -Nick Johnson
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[google-appengine] Re: email issue with Google Apps e-mail "Group"

2009-05-21 Thread Sylvain

Very strange. Now it works. I've changed nothing.
And I can set my group permissions to "Public" or "Team" and it still
works.

Good news.

Regards


On 16 mai, 09:08, Sylvain  wrote:
> Hi Jason, thank you for your help
>
> Yes, currently my app can send a mail to a "simple" user.
> It's a cron and each day I receive a mail, so it works fine.
>
> Now if I swap the user by a group (set to Public, Any email adress) :
> it fails.
>
> You can check the permissions here, this screenshot here 
> :http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gappgroup.jpg
> or herehttp://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=1530
> (many screenshots)
>
> In this issue (1530), I have add many details.
>
> I hope it can help.
>
> Regards.
>
> On 16 mai, 01:07, "Jason (Google)"  wrote:
>
> > I have a personalGoogleAppsdomain; I created a new group, set it to
> > "Public" and made sure to check the "Any email address" box in the "Who can
> > send email to this group" section. I verified that I my App Engine app could
> > send mail both to individuals and this particular group in my domain.
>
> > This leads me to believe that there is a different issue. Can you confirm
> > whether you are able to send mail to an individual using the same code as
> > you have set up for the group (just swapping out the 'to' address)? Can you
> > also confirm whether the "Any email address" box is selected in yourGoogle
> >Appsdashboard?
>
> > Thanks,
> > - Jason
>
> > On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 2:16 AM, Sylvain  wrote:
>
> > > For me it's a very big issue.
> > > Currently the dev is frozen.
>
> > > So I've created an issue here :
> > >http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=1530
>
> > > Maybe I could have more help from theGoogleAppsteam ?
>
> > > Regards.
>
> > > On 7 mai, 16:11, Sylvain  wrote:
> > > > No,
>
> > > > I've posted a question on theGoogleAppshelp "forum".
> > > > And there  is no "good" answer (spf ?)
>
> > > > So I'm waiting for a googler with a solution else I will fill a bug.
> > > > But I don't know where is the issue : GAE orGoogleApps, so it is
> > > > very difficult.
>
> > > > Regards.
>
> > > > On 5 mai, 18:46, Srid  wrote:
>
> > > > > Sylvain
>
> > > > > I am having this same problem.  Did you find any solution?
>
> > > > > thx
> > > > > Srid
>
> > > > > On May 5, 8:05 am, Sylvain  wrote:
>
> > > > > > I don't think we are talking about the same thing.
> > > > > > You are talking about "Post a message".
> > > > > > I just want to "send" a mail
>
> > > > > > Here is a picture about what I'm talking.
>
> > > > > >http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gappgroup.jpg
>
> > > > > > Sylvain
>
> > > > > > On 5 mai, 13:57, Sylvain  wrote:
>
> > > > > > > Yes, thisgroupis correctly parameter.
>
> > > > > > > I'm just testing to send a mail to support@.com with my
> > > gmail
> > > > > > > adress and many other e-mail adresses (hotmail,... etc,...). And
> > > all
> > > > > > > my tests work.
>
> > > > > > > So there is only an issue with mails from GAE.
>
> > > > > > > Sylvain
>
> > > > > > > On 5 mai, 13:42, "Nick Johnson (Google)" 
> > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > Hi Sylvain,
>
> > > > > > > > Even for groups that are marked 'public', they generally require
> > > that
> > > > > > > > the sender be a member of thegroupbefore they can post. In
> > > addition
> > > > > > > > to setting thegroupas "public", you also need to select "anyone
> > > can
> > > > > > > > post" under "who can post messages?" on the Access tab of
> > > thegroup's
> > > > > > > > settings.
>
> > > > > > > > -Nick Johnson
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[google-appengine] Re: email issue with Google Apps e-mail "Group"

2009-05-21 Thread Jason (Google)
Great to hear!

- Jason

On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 2:06 PM, Sylvain  wrote:

>
> Very strange. Now it works. I've changed nothing.
> And I can set my group permissions to "Public" or "Team" and it still
> works.
>
> Good news.
>
> Regards
>
>
> On 16 mai, 09:08, Sylvain  wrote:
> > Hi Jason, thank you for your help
> >
> > Yes, currently my app can send a mail to a "simple" user.
> > It's a cron and each day I receive a mail, so it works fine.
> >
> > Now if I swap the user by a group (set to Public, Any email adress) :
> > it fails.
> >
> > You can check the permissions here, this screenshot here :
> http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gappgroup.jpg
> > or herehttp://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=1530
> > (many screenshots)
> >
> > In this issue (1530), I have add many details.
> >
> > I hope it can help.
> >
> > Regards.
> >
> > On 16 mai, 01:07, "Jason (Google)"  wrote:
> >
> > > I have a personalGoogleAppsdomain; I created a new group, set it to
> > > "Public" and made sure to check the "Any email address" box in the "Who
> can
> > > send email to this group" section. I verified that I my App Engine app
> could
> > > send mail both to individuals and this particular group in my domain.
> >
> > > This leads me to believe that there is a different issue. Can you
> confirm
> > > whether you are able to send mail to an individual using the same code
> as
> > > you have set up for the group (just swapping out the 'to' address)? Can
> you
> > > also confirm whether the "Any email address" box is selected in
> yourGoogle
> > >Appsdashboard?
> >
> > > Thanks,
> > > - Jason
> >
> > > On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 2:16 AM, Sylvain 
> wrote:
> >
> > > > For me it's a very big issue.
> > > > Currently the dev is frozen.
> >
> > > > So I've created an issue here :
> > > >http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=1530
> >
> > > > Maybe I could have more help from theGoogleAppsteam ?
> >
> > > > Regards.
> >
> > > > On 7 mai, 16:11, Sylvain  wrote:
> > > > > No,
> >
> > > > > I've posted a question on theGoogleAppshelp "forum".
> > > > > And there  is no "good" answer (spf ?)
> >
> > > > > So I'm waiting for a googler with a solution else I will fill a
> bug.
> > > > > But I don't know where is the issue : GAE orGoogleApps, so it is
> > > > > very difficult.
> >
> > > > > Regards.
> >
> > > > > On 5 mai, 18:46, Srid  wrote:
> >
> > > > > > Sylvain
> >
> > > > > > I am having this same problem.  Did you find any solution?
> >
> > > > > > thx
> > > > > > Srid
> >
> > > > > > On May 5, 8:05 am, Sylvain  wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > I don't think we are talking about the same thing.
> > > > > > > You are talking about "Post a message".
> > > > > > > I just want to "send" a mail
> >
> > > > > > > Here is a picture about what I'm talking.
> >
> > > > > > >http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gappgroup.jpg
> >
> > > > > > > Sylvain
> >
> > > > > > > On 5 mai, 13:57, Sylvain  wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > > Yes, thisgroupis correctly parameter.
> >
> > > > > > > > I'm just testing to send a mail to support@.com with
> my
> > > > gmail
> > > > > > > > adress and many other e-mail adresses (hotmail,... etc,...).
> And
> > > > all
> > > > > > > > my tests work.
> >
> > > > > > > > So there is only an issue with mails from GAE.
> >
> > > > > > > > Sylvain
> >
> > > > > > > > On 5 mai, 13:42, "Nick Johnson (Google)" <
> nick.john...@google.com>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > > > Hi Sylvain,
> >
> > > > > > > > > Even for groups that are marked 'public', they generally
> require
> > > > that
> > > > > > > > > the sender be a member of thegroupbefore they can post. In
> > > > addition
> > > > > > > > > to setting thegroupas "public", you also need to select
> "anyone
> > > > can
> > > > > > > > > post" under "who can post messages?" on the Access tab of
> > > > thegroup's
> > > > > > > > > settings.
> >
> > > > > > > > > -Nick Johnson
> >
>

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