[google-appengine] Re: email issue with Google Apps e-mail Group
Very strange. Now it works. I've changed nothing. And I can set my group permissions to Public or Team and it still works. Good news. Regards On 16 mai, 09:08, Sylvain sylvain.viv...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Jason, thank you for your help Yes, currently my app can send a mail to a simple user. It's a cron and each day I receive a mail, so it works fine. Now if I swap the user by a group (set to Public, Any email adress) : it fails. You can check the permissions here, this screenshot here :http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gappgroup.jpg or herehttp://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=1530 (many screenshots) In this issue (1530), I have add many details. I hope it can help. Regards. On 16 mai, 01:07, Jason (Google) apija...@google.com wrote: I have a personalGoogleAppsdomain; I created a new group, set it to Public and made sure to check the Any email address box in the Who can send email to this group section. I verified that I my App Engine app could send mail both to individuals and this particular group in my domain. This leads me to believe that there is a different issue. Can you confirm whether you are able to send mail to an individual using the same code as you have set up for the group (just swapping out the 'to' address)? Can you also confirm whether the Any email address box is selected in yourGoogle Appsdashboard? Thanks, - Jason On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 2:16 AM, Sylvain sylvain.viv...@gmail.com wrote: For me it's a very big issue. Currently the dev is frozen. So I've created an issue here : http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=1530 Maybe I could have more help from theGoogleAppsteam ? Regards. On 7 mai, 16:11, Sylvain sylvain.viv...@gmail.com wrote: No, I've posted a question on theGoogleAppshelp forum. And there is no good answer (spf ?) So I'm waiting for a googler with a solution else I will fill a bug. But I don't know where is the issue : GAE orGoogleApps, so it is very difficult. Regards. On 5 mai, 18:46, Srid ban...@gmail.com wrote: Sylvain I am having this same problem. Did you find any solution? thx Srid On May 5, 8:05 am, Sylvain sylvain.viv...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think we are talking about the same thing. You are talking about Post a message. I just want to send a mail Here is a picture about what I'm talking. http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gappgroup.jpg Sylvain On 5 mai, 13:57, Sylvain sylvain.viv...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, thisgroupis correctly parameter. I'm just testing to send a mail to support@domain.com with my gmail adress and many other e-mail adresses (hotmail,... etc,...). And all my tests work. So there is only an issue with mails from GAE. Sylvain On 5 mai, 13:42, Nick Johnson (Google) nick.john...@google.com wrote: Hi Sylvain, Even for groups that are marked 'public', they generally require that the sender be a member of thegroupbefore they can post. In addition to setting thegroupas public, you also need to select anyone can post under who can post messages? on the Access tab of thegroup's settings. -Nick Johnson --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: email issue with Google Apps e-mail Group
Great to hear! - Jason On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 2:06 PM, Sylvain sylvain.viv...@gmail.com wrote: Very strange. Now it works. I've changed nothing. And I can set my group permissions to Public or Team and it still works. Good news. Regards On 16 mai, 09:08, Sylvain sylvain.viv...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Jason, thank you for your help Yes, currently my app can send a mail to a simple user. It's a cron and each day I receive a mail, so it works fine. Now if I swap the user by a group (set to Public, Any email adress) : it fails. You can check the permissions here, this screenshot here : http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gappgroup.jpg or herehttp://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=1530 (many screenshots) In this issue (1530), I have add many details. I hope it can help. Regards. On 16 mai, 01:07, Jason (Google) apija...@google.com wrote: I have a personalGoogleAppsdomain; I created a new group, set it to Public and made sure to check the Any email address box in the Who can send email to this group section. I verified that I my App Engine app could send mail both to individuals and this particular group in my domain. This leads me to believe that there is a different issue. Can you confirm whether you are able to send mail to an individual using the same code as you have set up for the group (just swapping out the 'to' address)? Can you also confirm whether the Any email address box is selected in yourGoogle Appsdashboard? Thanks, - Jason On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 2:16 AM, Sylvain sylvain.viv...@gmail.com wrote: For me it's a very big issue. Currently the dev is frozen. So I've created an issue here : http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=1530 Maybe I could have more help from theGoogleAppsteam ? Regards. On 7 mai, 16:11, Sylvain sylvain.viv...@gmail.com wrote: No, I've posted a question on theGoogleAppshelp forum. And there is no good answer (spf ?) So I'm waiting for a googler with a solution else I will fill a bug. But I don't know where is the issue : GAE orGoogleApps, so it is very difficult. Regards. On 5 mai, 18:46, Srid ban...@gmail.com wrote: Sylvain I am having this same problem. Did you find any solution? thx Srid On May 5, 8:05 am, Sylvain sylvain.viv...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think we are talking about the same thing. You are talking about Post a message. I just want to send a mail Here is a picture about what I'm talking. http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gappgroup.jpg Sylvain On 5 mai, 13:57, Sylvain sylvain.viv...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, thisgroupis correctly parameter. I'm just testing to send a mail to support@domain.com with my gmail adress and many other e-mail adresses (hotmail,... etc,...). And all my tests work. So there is only an issue with mails from GAE. Sylvain On 5 mai, 13:42, Nick Johnson (Google) nick.john...@google.com wrote: Hi Sylvain, Even for groups that are marked 'public', they generally require that the sender be a member of thegroupbefore they can post. In addition to setting thegroupas public, you also need to select anyone can post under who can post messages? on the Access tab of thegroup's settings. -Nick Johnson --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: email issue with Google Apps e-mail Group
Hi Jason, thank you for your help Yes, currently my app can send a mail to a simple user. It's a cron and each day I receive a mail, so it works fine. Now if I swap the user by a group (set to Public, Any email adress) : it fails. You can check the permissions here, this screenshot here : http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gappgroup.jpg or here http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=1530 (many screenshots) In this issue (1530), I have add many details. I hope it can help. Regards. On 16 mai, 01:07, Jason (Google) apija...@google.com wrote: I have a personal Google Apps domain; I created a new group, set it to Public and made sure to check the Any email address box in the Who can send email to this group section. I verified that I my App Engine app could send mail both to individuals and this particular group in my domain. This leads me to believe that there is a different issue. Can you confirm whether you are able to send mail to an individual using the same code as you have set up for the group (just swapping out the 'to' address)? Can you also confirm whether the Any email address box is selected in your Google Apps dashboard? Thanks, - Jason On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 2:16 AM, Sylvain sylvain.viv...@gmail.com wrote: For me it's a very big issue. Currently the dev is frozen. So I've created an issue here : http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=1530 Maybe I could have more help from the Google Apps team ? Regards. On 7 mai, 16:11, Sylvain sylvain.viv...@gmail.com wrote: No, I've posted a question on the Google Apps help forum. And there is no good answer (spf ?) So I'm waiting for a googler with a solution else I will fill a bug. But I don't know where is the issue : GAE or Google Apps, so it is very difficult. Regards. On 5 mai, 18:46, Srid ban...@gmail.com wrote: Sylvain I am having this same problem. Did you find any solution? thx Srid On May 5, 8:05 am, Sylvain sylvain.viv...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think we are talking about the same thing. You are talking about Post a message. I just want to send a mail Here is a picture about what I'm talking. http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gappgroup.jpg Sylvain On 5 mai, 13:57, Sylvain sylvain.viv...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, thisgroupis correctly parameter. I'm just testing to send a mail to support@domain.com with my gmail adress and many other e-mail adresses (hotmail,... etc,...). And all my tests work. So there is only an issue with mails from GAE. Sylvain On 5 mai, 13:42, Nick Johnson (Google) nick.john...@google.com wrote: Hi Sylvain, Even for groups that are marked 'public', they generally require that the sender be a member of thegroupbefore they can post. In addition to setting thegroupas public, you also need to select anyone can post under who can post messages? on the Access tab of thegroup's settings. -Nick Johnson --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: email issue with Google Apps e-mail Group
I have a personal Google Apps domain; I created a new group, set it to Public and made sure to check the Any email address box in the Who can send email to this group section. I verified that I my App Engine app could send mail both to individuals and this particular group in my domain. This leads me to believe that there is a different issue. Can you confirm whether you are able to send mail to an individual using the same code as you have set up for the group (just swapping out the 'to' address)? Can you also confirm whether the Any email address box is selected in your Google Apps dashboard? Thanks, - Jason On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 2:16 AM, Sylvain sylvain.viv...@gmail.com wrote: For me it's a very big issue. Currently the dev is frozen. So I've created an issue here : http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=1530 Maybe I could have more help from the Google Apps team ? Regards. On 7 mai, 16:11, Sylvain sylvain.viv...@gmail.com wrote: No, I've posted a question on the Google Apps help forum. And there is no good answer (spf ?) So I'm waiting for a googler with a solution else I will fill a bug. But I don't know where is the issue : GAE or Google Apps, so it is very difficult. Regards. On 5 mai, 18:46, Srid ban...@gmail.com wrote: Sylvain I am having this same problem. Did you find any solution? thx Srid On May 5, 8:05 am, Sylvain sylvain.viv...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think we are talking about the same thing. You are talking about Post a message. I just want to send a mail Here is a picture about what I'm talking. http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gappgroup.jpg Sylvain On 5 mai, 13:57, Sylvain sylvain.viv...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, thisgroupis correctly parameter. I'm just testing to send a mail to support@domain.com with my gmail adress and many other e-mail adresses (hotmail,... etc,...). And all my tests work. So there is only an issue with mails from GAE. Sylvain On 5 mai, 13:42, Nick Johnson (Google) nick.john...@google.com wrote: Hi Sylvain, Even for groups that are marked 'public', they generally require that the sender be a member of thegroupbefore they can post. In addition to setting thegroupas public, you also need to select anyone can post under who can post messages? on the Access tab of thegroup's settings. -Nick Johnson --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: email issue with Google Apps e-mail Group
For me it's a very big issue. Currently the dev is frozen. So I've created an issue here : http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=1530 Maybe I could have more help from the Google Apps team ? Regards. On 7 mai, 16:11, Sylvain sylvain.viv...@gmail.com wrote: No, I've posted a question on the Google Apps help forum. And there is no good answer (spf ?) So I'm waiting for a googler with a solution else I will fill a bug. But I don't know where is the issue : GAE or Google Apps, so it is very difficult. Regards. On 5 mai, 18:46, Srid ban...@gmail.com wrote: Sylvain I am having this same problem. Did you find any solution? thx Srid On May 5, 8:05 am, Sylvain sylvain.viv...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think we are talking about the same thing. You are talking about Post a message. I just want to send a mail Here is a picture about what I'm talking. http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gappgroup.jpg Sylvain On 5 mai, 13:57, Sylvain sylvain.viv...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, thisgroupis correctly parameter. I'm just testing to send a mail to support@domain.com with my gmail adress and many other e-mail adresses (hotmail,... etc,...). And all my tests work. So there is only an issue with mails from GAE. Sylvain On 5 mai, 13:42, Nick Johnson (Google) nick.john...@google.com wrote: Hi Sylvain, Even for groups that are marked 'public', they generally require that the sender be a member of thegroupbefore they can post. In addition to setting thegroupas public, you also need to select anyone can post under who can post messages? on the Access tab of thegroup's settings. -Nick Johnson --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: email issue with Google Apps e-mail Group
Sylvain I am having this same problem. Did you find any solution? thx Srid On May 5, 8:05 am, Sylvain sylvain.viv...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think we are talking about the same thing. You are talking about Post a message. I just want to send a mail Here is a picture about what I'm talking. http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gappgroup.jpg Sylvain On 5 mai, 13:57, Sylvain sylvain.viv...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, this group is correctly parameter. I'm just testing to send a mail to support@domain.com with my gmail adress and many other e-mail adresses (hotmail,... etc,...). And all my tests work. So there is only an issue with mails from GAE. Sylvain On 5 mai, 13:42, Nick Johnson (Google) nick.john...@google.com wrote: Hi Sylvain, Even for groups that are marked 'public', they generally require that the sender be a member of the group before they can post. In addition to setting the group as public, you also need to select anyone can post under who can post messages? on the Access tab of the group's settings. -Nick Johnson --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: email issue with Google Apps e-mail Group
No, I've posted a question on the Google Apps help forum. And there is no good answer (spf ?) So I'm waiting for a googler with a solution else I will fill a bug. But I don't know where is the issue : GAE or Google Apps, so it is very difficult. Regards. On 5 mai, 18:46, Srid ban...@gmail.com wrote: Sylvain I am having this same problem. Did you find any solution? thx Srid On May 5, 8:05 am, Sylvain sylvain.viv...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think we are talking about the same thing. You are talking about Post a message. I just want to send a mail Here is a picture about what I'm talking. http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gappgroup.jpg Sylvain On 5 mai, 13:57, Sylvain sylvain.viv...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, this group is correctly parameter. I'm just testing to send a mail to support@domain.com with my gmail adress and many other e-mail adresses (hotmail,... etc,...). And all my tests work. So there is only an issue with mails from GAE. Sylvain On 5 mai, 13:42, Nick Johnson (Google) nick.john...@google.com wrote: Hi Sylvain, Even for groups that are marked 'public', they generally require that the sender be a member of the group before they can post. In addition to setting the group as public, you also need to select anyone can post under who can post messages? on the Access tab of the group's settings. -Nick Johnson --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: email issue with Google Apps e-mail Group
Maybe the issue is related to a spf record ? http://www.google.com/support/a/bin/static.py?page=known_issues.cs# But before changing the spf records, I need to be sure that it will work. If GAE can't send a mail to a Google Apps group (of users) (which is not related to Google [G]roups), it is a very big issue for such a basic feature. Google Apps and GAE seem to be linked but it fails to send a mail... Regards. On 5 mai, 14:05, Sylvain sylvain.viv...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think we are talking about the same thing. You are talking about Post a message. I just want to send a mail Here is a picture about what I'm talking. http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gappgroup.jpg Sylvain On 5 mai, 13:57, Sylvain sylvain.viv...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, this group is correctly parameter. I'm just testing to send a mail to support@domain.com with my gmail adress and many other e-mail adresses (hotmail,... etc,...). And all my tests work. So there is only an issue with mails from GAE. Sylvain On 5 mai, 13:42, Nick Johnson (Google) nick.john...@google.com wrote: Hi Sylvain, Even for groups that are marked 'public', they generally require that the sender be a member of the group before they can post. In addition to setting the group as public, you also need to select anyone can post under who can post messages? on the Access tab of the group's settings. -Nick Johnson --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: email issue with Google Apps e-mail Group
Hi Sylvain, Unfortunately, it's not possible to post to a group from Google App Engine. As you can see from the bounce message, App Engine sets the sender address to an autogenerated 'bounce' address, and it's the sender address that Google Groups checks to verify if a user can post. -Nick Johnson --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: email issue with Google Apps e-mail Group
Just to be cleared : I don't want to send a mail to a Google Group but to a Google Apps group (group for Google Apps For your Domain / e-mail usergroup) I don't understand why it doesn't work because my group is to set public (not team,...) So all e-mail adresses should work. It's an issue to GAE or Google Apps ? Regards On 5 mai, 11:55, Nick Johnson (Google) nick.john...@google.com wrote: Hi Sylvain, Unfortunately, it's not possible to post to a group from Google App Engine. As you can see from the bounce message, App Engine sets the sender address to an autogenerated 'bounce' address, and it's the sender address that Google Groups checks to verify if a user can post. -Nick Johnson --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: email issue with Google Apps e-mail Group
Hi Sylvain, The answer is the same: The group is prohibiting posts from a sender address it doesn't recognise. Since you can't change the sender address with the App Engine email API, the only way around this is to change your group's settings to allow posts from non-members, if that's possible. -Nick Johnson --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: email issue with Google Apps e-mail Group
Yes, the group settings ar ok. Everybody can send a mail to this group even if this adress belongs or not to the Google Apps domain. In google app, this group is set to Public(For topics of general interest. Email is unrestricted.) So e-mail is unrestricted and all e-mails (@gmail, @domain, @yahoo.com, @hotmail,...) can send a mail to this group. http://www.google.com/support/a/bin/answer.py?hl=enanswer=126169 A mail like this it should work : @apphosting.bounces.google.com So, there is an issue. Sylvain On 5 mai, 12:15, Nick Johnson (Google) nick.john...@google.com wrote: Hi Sylvain, The answer is the same: The group is prohibiting posts from a sender address it doesn't recognise. Since you can't change the sender address with the App Engine email API, the only way around this is to change your group's settings to allow posts from non-members, if that's possible. -Nick Johnson --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: email issue with Google Apps e-mail Group
Hi Sylvain, Even for groups that are marked 'public', they generally require that the sender be a member of the group before they can post. In addition to setting the group as public, you also need to select anyone can post under who can post messages? on the Access tab of the group's settings. -Nick Johnson --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: email issue with Google Apps e-mail Group
Yes, this group is correctly parameter. I'm just testing to send a mail to support@domain.com with my gmail adress and many other e-mail adresses (hotmail,... etc,...). And all my tests work. So there is only an issue with mails from GAE. Sylvain On 5 mai, 13:42, Nick Johnson (Google) nick.john...@google.com wrote: Hi Sylvain, Even for groups that are marked 'public', they generally require that the sender be a member of the group before they can post. In addition to setting the group as public, you also need to select anyone can post under who can post messages? on the Access tab of the group's settings. -Nick Johnson --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: email issue with Google Apps e-mail Group
I don't think we are talking about the same thing. You are talking about Post a message. I just want to send a mail Here is a picture about what I'm talking. http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gappgroup.jpg Sylvain On 5 mai, 13:57, Sylvain sylvain.viv...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, this group is correctly parameter. I'm just testing to send a mail to support@domain.com with my gmail adress and many other e-mail adresses (hotmail,... etc,...). And all my tests work. So there is only an issue with mails from GAE. Sylvain On 5 mai, 13:42, Nick Johnson (Google) nick.john...@google.com wrote: Hi Sylvain, Even for groups that are marked 'public', they generally require that the sender be a member of the group before they can post. In addition to setting the group as public, you also need to select anyone can post under who can post messages? on the Access tab of the group's settings. -Nick Johnson --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
