[appengine-java] Re: Weird performance problem last 3 days or so

2011-03-23 Thread mdt
To clarify: yes, I do realize the message means my data store is
empty: so I need a new theory of why it took 80 seconds to get a home
page this morning.

On Mar 23, 8:01 am, mdt  wrote:
> No, I haven't. Interesting idea. I have convinced myself, however,
> that it is a data store problem. We use the data store currently just
> to store subscription email addresses, which we use outside the app.
> Every time someone subscribes, performance tanks, I note the address
> and clear out the data store, and performance goes back to normal.
> OTOH, this morning I can't clear out the data store because of:
>
> "Oops! We couldn't retrieve your list of Kinds. Please try again
> later."
>
> Obviously, we don't need to be using the data store for this (we had
> plans to use it more), so my next project is to stop using it
> altogether.
>
> Sigh! Thanks for the suggestion, though.
>
> On Mar 15, 2:59 pm, WillSpecht  wrote:
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> > Has anyone tried deploying a different app to the slow appid then
> > redploying the old app?

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[appengine-java] Re: Weird performance problem last 3 days or so

2011-03-23 Thread mdt

No, I haven't. Interesting idea. I have convinced myself, however,
that it is a data store problem. We use the data store currently just
to store subscription email addresses, which we use outside the app.
Every time someone subscribes, performance tanks, I note the address
and clear out the data store, and performance goes back to normal.
OTOH, this morning I can't clear out the data store because of:

"Oops! We couldn't retrieve your list of Kinds. Please try again
later."

Obviously, we don't need to be using the data store for this (we had
plans to use it more), so my next project is to stop using it
altogether.

Sigh! Thanks for the suggestion, though.

On Mar 15, 2:59 pm, WillSpecht  wrote:
> Has anyone tried deploying a different app to the slow appid then
> redploying the old app?
>

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Re: [appengine-java] Re: Weird performance problem last 3 days or so

2011-03-12 Thread mdt
In case it helps you I'll point out that my "strategy" of deploying the same 
code under a different appid continues to work, and this morning I switched 
the domain over to the other appid. This new deployment continues to be 
lightning fast. The appid I'm using is not new, but has never been used for 
this app before. I'll also re-emphasize that the new instance has no data in 
the persistent store, while the other one has a little data that it never 
uses (long story).

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[appengine-java] Re: Weird performance problem last 3 days or so

2011-03-10 Thread mdt
Some more information on this -- looking through the logs I didn't occur to 
me to expand the entries for the long latency queries, but when I did I 
found:

The process handling this request unexpectedly died. This is likely to cause a 
new process to be used for the next request to your application. (Error code 
203)


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[appengine-java] Re: Weird performance problem last 3 days or so

2011-03-10 Thread mdt
Actually, I overstated things. The app actually now uses persistence VERY 
LITTLE, and only on one page. But the persistent store on the second 
deployment is empty. It would be strange if this was the problem, but it 
could be. 

Thanks again!

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[appengine-java] Re: Weird performance problem last 3 days or so

2011-03-10 Thread mdt
The app doesn't use persistence at all: all the data it uses is read from 
resource files ... and I believe these to be 
identical in both cases. ( The app did use persistence and the cache API up 
to about 6 weeks ago, but no longer. )

A couple of pages use an HTTP callout to an RSS feed, but the problems 
appears with _all_ the pages. Most pages use Google charts in some way, but 
I don't believe resulting latency would show up on the server, and the two 
deployments make identical chart requests. 

I'm sure we'll hit the wall with our primitive approach sometime, but for 
now it works quite well. Except when it doesn't 8-). 

Thanks for your idea, though!

 

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[appengine-java] Weird performance problem last 3 days or so

2011-03-10 Thread mdt
For the last couple of days our app performance has tanked, with requests 
that used to take a second or so taking up to 30 seconds. Since we've made 
"minor changes" that "probably aren't the cause" something gave me the idea 
of deploying the same code under a separate name, and comparing the two. 
That is, let's say we have foo.appspot.com normally, I deployed the SAME 
code as bar.appspot.com. 

The foo deployment crawls, and the bar deployment is fine. 

So it's as if the production app name has gotten messed up somehow. (Yes, I 
also tried yet another new deployment under the old app name). The two 
deployments, AFAIK, differ only in that the production version is linked to 
a custom domain name, but I've reproduced this problem using the appspot.com 
domain only, so it's clearly not a DNS problem (also, I see the really long 
latencies in the appengine logs).

We've been using app engine for Java successful for this app for six months, 
so we're not complete novices, but could still be doing something dumb. 

Any ideas how to diagnose this? Any help appreciated: this is threatening a 
venture that was just barely getting off the ground.

Oh, I thought of deleting the app and recreating, but I'm afraid I'll have 
trouble recreating it and then have to go messing with DNS mapping.

Thanks in advance!




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