[appengine-java] Re: Weird performance problem last 3 days or so

2011-03-23 Thread mdt

No, I haven't. Interesting idea. I have convinced myself, however,
that it is a data store problem. We use the data store currently just
to store subscription email addresses, which we use outside the app.
Every time someone subscribes, performance tanks, I note the address
and clear out the data store, and performance goes back to normal.
OTOH, this morning I can't clear out the data store because of:

Oops! We couldn't retrieve your list of Kinds. Please try again
later.

Obviously, we don't need to be using the data store for this (we had
plans to use it more), so my next project is to stop using it
altogether.

Sigh! Thanks for the suggestion, though.

On Mar 15, 2:59 pm, WillSpecht willspe...@gmail.com wrote:
 Has anyone tried deploying a different app to the slow appid then
 redploying the old app?


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[appengine-java] Re: Weird performance problem last 3 days or so

2011-03-23 Thread mdt
To clarify: yes, I do realize the message means my data store is
empty: so I need a new theory of why it took 80 seconds to get a home
page this morning.

On Mar 23, 8:01 am, mdt mixed.doubles.t...@gmail.com wrote:
 No, I haven't. Interesting idea. I have convinced myself, however,
 that it is a data store problem. We use the data store currently just
 to store subscription email addresses, which we use outside the app.
 Every time someone subscribes, performance tanks, I note the address
 and clear out the data store, and performance goes back to normal.
 OTOH, this morning I can't clear out the data store because of:

 Oops! We couldn't retrieve your list of Kinds. Please try again
 later.

 Obviously, we don't need to be using the data store for this (we had
 plans to use it more), so my next project is to stop using it
 altogether.

 Sigh! Thanks for the suggestion, though.

 On Mar 15, 2:59 pm, WillSpecht willspe...@gmail.com wrote:







  Has anyone tried deploying a different app to the slow appid then
  redploying the old app?

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[appengine-java] Re: Weird performance problem last 3 days or so

2011-03-15 Thread WillSpecht
Has anyone tried deploying a different app to the slow appid then
redploying the old app?

On Mar 13, 11:20 am, Michael Green rilkeanm...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks for the tip!  I've confirmed the exact same behavior.  I deployed the
 same application to a new appspot domain and it seems to be running much
 faster.    My problem is that I've set up a Google App domain for the
 first.  So before going through the headache to switch to a new domain, i'd
 be interested in investigating what is happening.

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Re: [appengine-java] Re: Weird performance problem last 3 days or so

2011-03-13 Thread Michael Green
Thanks for the tip!  I've confirmed the exact same behavior.  I deployed the 
same application to a new appspot domain and it seems to be running much 
faster.My problem is that I've set up a Google App domain for the 
first.  So before going through the headache to switch to a new domain, i'd 
be interested in investigating what is happening.

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Re: [appengine-java] Re: Weird performance problem last 3 days or so

2011-03-12 Thread Michael Green
I've had similar issues since the past three days.  Since I was out on 
vacation for the week, I'm fairly certain that it wasn't because of anything 
I changed.  The first symptom was when my warmup requests ate up all of my 
daily quota because I was getting HDEE's all day on Wednesday.  This had 
never happened before.

My first suspicion was a long term memory issue with my app since it had 
been running for a few days.  However, since uploading newer versions, I 
continue to see the same degraded performance.  Since late Tuesday, all 
requests seem to take much longer with a high percentage getting killed due 
to HDEE.

Has something changed on the platform this week?  In the mean time, I'm 
instrumenting for app stats to see if I can get a handle on bottlenecks.

~Michael

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Re: [appengine-java] Re: Weird performance problem last 3 days or so

2011-03-12 Thread Michael Green
For what it's worth.  About the same time, I developed an issue on my dev 
machine, a (Mac), that seems to be related to the recent Java SE Update 4 
release.  There a thread on the issue 
herehttp://code.google.com/appengine/forum/java-forum.html?place=msg%2Fgoogle-appengine-java%2FP6bBEiRB_xQ%2F1stMGk1klSgJ
.

Any chance the newly released Java update could be impacting performance on 
app engine (may be a stretch, but thought I would throw that out).

~Michael

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Re: [appengine-java] Re: Weird performance problem last 3 days or so

2011-03-12 Thread mdt
In case it helps you I'll point out that my strategy of deploying the same 
code under a different appid continues to work, and this morning I switched 
the domain over to the other appid. This new deployment continues to be 
lightning fast. The appid I'm using is not new, but has never been used for 
this app before. I'll also re-emphasize that the new instance has no data in 
the persistent store, while the other one has a little data that it never 
uses (long story).

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Re: [appengine-java] Re: Weird performance problem last 3 days or so

2011-03-11 Thread Don Schwarz
I can look into this.  Can you reply privately with the real appids for foo
and bar?

On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 10:49 PM, mdt mixed.doubles.t...@gmail.com wrote:

 Some more information on this -- looking through the logs I didn't occur to
 me to expand the entries for the long latency queries, but when I did I
 found:


 The process handling this request unexpectedly died. This is likely to cause 
 a new process to be used for the next request to your application. (Error 
 code 203)


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[appengine-java] Re: Weird performance problem last 3 days or so

2011-03-10 Thread Jay Young
Might the difference between your foo and bar deployments be the size of the 
data set you have for each app?  If the fresh install is consistently fine 
and the old one is consistently slow, maybe you've hit a threshold where 
some inefficiency in your queries or data handling has started to actually 
matter.

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[appengine-java] Re: Weird performance problem last 3 days or so

2011-03-10 Thread mdt
Actually, I overstated things. The app actually now uses persistence VERY 
LITTLE, and only on one page. But the persistent store on the second 
deployment is empty. It would be strange if this was the problem, but it 
could be. 

Thanks again!

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[appengine-java] Re: Weird performance problem last 3 days or so

2011-03-10 Thread mdt
Some more information on this -- looking through the logs I didn't occur to 
me to expand the entries for the long latency queries, but when I did I 
found:

The process handling this request unexpectedly died. This is likely to cause a 
new process to be used for the next request to your application. (Error code 
203)


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