[Google Wave APIs] Re: Can one user proxy many users

2009-12-16 Thread saurabh
Hi Pamela,

As far as I understand I have to have a google app domain and ask for
add services ...

I just did that but I cant find any services like google wave can you
please spend a minute to explain it further.

Is it a premium service or free.

Thanks
Saurabh

On Dec 16, 9:53 am, saurabh sagarwal1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks a lot pamela for the quick rreply but I am not able to get the
 second point You may want to create
 a Google Apps domain and request that be Wave enabled, as then you
 would be
 able to provision more users on that domain and not be concerned about
 the
 limited public accounts.

 Does that mean:

 I create my website on google apps engine and there my website can be
 wave enabled and I can register more users on my wave engine which are
 completely different from General Google wave ...

 I know i sound little weired but I am not able to understand that ,
 can you please explain a little more.

 Appreciate your help and time.

 Regards
 Saurabh

 On Dec 15, 4:19 pm, pamela (Google Employee) pamela...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Hi Saraubh-

  I imagine you could use the proxy for property with operations to specify
  the physical users. There will be more support for that in the next version
  of the API. (And there's a bit of info in the protocol 
  doc:http://code.google.com/apis/wave/extensions/robots/protocol.html)

  We don't have a timeline for the public Wave launch. You may want to create
  a Google Apps domain and request that be Wave enabled, as then you would be
  able to provision more users on that domain and not be concerned about the
  limited public accounts.

  - pamela

  On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 6:41 PM, saurabh sagarwal1...@gmail.com wrote:
   Hi All,

   I want to make an application in which a google wave user can login on
   multiple computers and and multiple users ( physical ) can interact
   with the wave I want to know if there are any technical and legal
   issues to it.

   Additionally any rough idea when wave will be launched as my
   application will be dependednt on google wave.

   Thanks
   Saurabh

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Re: [Google Wave APIs] Re: API for retrieving a user's Google Wave contacts

2009-12-16 Thread Dragon Silicon
Dear Harish,

I hypothesize wave to have an internal list of wave-enabled users, and the
contacts are being filtered using this lists.

However, I'd be very interested on the internal mechanism of the little
green light, not just as a developer, but also as a heavy wave user: I have
a large set of friends who are in my Google Talk contact list (can see if
they are online / etc); but regardless of our private-waving activity, I
couldn't make wave show my wave-availability to them.
Is there a threshold mechanism going on, so we have to private-wave 1-on-1
more, or is the algorithm completely different?

Thank you,
-SDr

On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 7:32 AM, Harish Seethapathi 
harishseethapa...@gmail.com wrote:

 how are the google contacts distinguished based on, whether they have a
 wave account or not?Is there any field indicating that in the contacts?


 On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 12:59 PM, qMax qwigly...@gmail.com wrote:

 wave uses google contacts, which have their own API:

 http://code.google.com/intl/en/apis/contacts/docs/3.0/developers_guide.html

 On 15 дек, 16:19, Harish harishseethapa...@gmail.com wrote:
  I would like to know how and where is the information about the
  contact list of a wave user is stored.I would also like to know how to
  retrieve the list so that it can be used for inviting them to a wave
  automatically  ???

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Re: [Google Wave APIs] Re: Any good example ( source code ) of a completely new GUI made for wave

2009-12-16 Thread Dragon Silicon
Hi there,


   I want to make an application in which I want to make new GUI for wave
   can anybody point me to any examples ( source code ) for the same.
   If it possible to inherit features like PlayBack from wave gui.


A couple of weeks back, I've put together a small proof-of-concept called
Broadwavez http://www.broadwavez.com/, which seems similar to what you're
looking for. Using the Embed API http://code.google.com/apis/wave/embed/,
you can basically set the rest of the interface around a wave browser /
editor; and you also have a limited set of operations to interact with them
(such as: adding participants, setting UI colors, etc).
Advantage is you can put this together in less than 5 minutes (and yes, IIRC
playback is also included) ; the drawback is the limitations of usable
operations -and it's very non-trivial to extend.

Let me know if I've missed your point :)

-SDr



 
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[Google Wave APIs] Re: Problems with cron

2009-12-16 Thread Beldar
It will be implemented something like webhooks?

On 15 Des, 12:01, pamela (Google Employee) pamela...@gmail.com
wrote:
 I'm afraid the current robot cron mechanism is generally flaky, and will be
 replaced by a better mechanism soon. More detail in this 
 FAQ:http://wave-api-faq.appspot.com/#robotcron
 http://wave-api-faq.appspot.com/#robotcron

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  Hello!

  I stopped my robot application on appengine on Friday and then
  reenabled it. Before stop cron worked perfectly, but after reenabling
  it doesnot want to work:( I did not change version of my robot and did
  not deploy any new content. Does anybody have the same problems?
  Thanks in advance

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Re: [Google Wave APIs] New Annotation Docs

2009-12-16 Thread Dragon Silicon
To elaborate a bit on the reserved annotation list (and show off some of our
reverse-engineering works :) ), the following annotations are also heavily
used in the wild, and might be considered reserved:

spell   - Inserted  updated by Spelly, a built-in bot; contains token
correction with confidence values
link/auto  - automatically set links -a set of tokens, that has been
recognized as a link candidate, and set without user feedback
link/wave - link to a different wave; value contains the wave ID in
googlewave.com!w+d7NJm4nWF format
user/*   -user/session information, see the wave protocol
spechttp://www.waveprotocol.org/draft-protocol-specs/wave-conversation-model
 .

Protip: whenever possible, use the link/wave link type instead of
link/manual -ing to wave.google.com: the later opens the linked wave in a
new window (which is a heavy operation), whereas the former navigates the
current tab (which is about 2-3 times faster).

-SDr

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pamela...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi developers -

 We recently added a section to the robots documentation about
 annotations - how annotations are used by the client, and how
 annotations can be used by robots in extensions. The documentation
 includes an example of an extension that lets users select text, click
 a toolbar button, and have a robot process that selected text. This
 can be a nice way of letting users interact with your robot, instead
 of having them specify a particular syntax for your robot to pick up
 on. Read more in the documentation:

 http://code.google.com/apis/wave/extensions/robots/index.html#Annotations

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Re: [Google Wave APIs] Re: API for retrieving a user's Google Wave contacts

2009-12-16 Thread Harish Seethapathi
Google contacts API can be used for retrieving a user's Wavesandbox contact
list.This combined with XMPP's presence protocol implements that status
indicator.:)

On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 3:23 PM, Dragon Silicon sdr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear Harish,

 I hypothesize wave to have an internal list of wave-enabled users, and the
 contacts are being filtered using this lists.

 However, I'd be very interested on the internal mechanism of the little
 green light, not just as a developer, but also as a heavy wave user: I have
 a large set of friends who are in my Google Talk contact list (can see if
 they are online / etc); but regardless of our private-waving activity, I
 couldn't make wave show my wave-availability to them.
 Is there a threshold mechanism going on, so we have to private-wave 1-on-1
 more, or is the algorithm completely different?

 Thank you,
 -SDr


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 harishseethapa...@gmail.com wrote:

 how are the google contacts distinguished based on, whether they have a
 wave account or not?Is there any field indicating that in the contacts?


 On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 12:59 PM, qMax qwigly...@gmail.com wrote:

 wave uses google contacts, which have their own API:

 http://code.google.com/intl/en/apis/contacts/docs/3.0/developers_guide.html

 On 15 дек, 16:19, Harish harishseethapa...@gmail.com wrote:
  I would like to know how and where is the information about the
  contact list of a wave user is stored.I would also like to know how to
  retrieve the list so that it can be used for inviting them to a wave
  automatically  ???

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[Google Wave APIs] Request For Testers (RSS)

2009-12-16 Thread Bart Thate
hoi !

I have made a poller gadget for CMNDBOT that i would like to get
tested. This poller makes it possible to receive RSS feeds into a
wave, right now it polls every 10 minutes and seems to work for me but
i need to know if it works for others as well ;]

you can check out a wave i made for this at:

https://wave.google.com/wave/#restored:wave:googlewave.com!w%252BRC1rLadxP

if you want to test the bot in your own wave add cmnd...@appspot.com
to your wave and run the following commands:

1) !gadget-load poller
2) !rss-add feedname url
3) !rss-start feedname

all comments welcome ;]

Bart

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Re: [Google Wave APIs] This URI uses a high amount of CPU and should be optimised

2009-12-16 Thread Dragon Silicon
Hi there,

First of all, these error messages are a bit misleading: the used CPU upper
limit has been lifted, so other than seeing these error messages, your
application won't be infected. You might, possibly, reach the free quotas at
some point, though.
Secondly, I have doubts about the legitimacy for requesting 50 objects from
the datastore for every BlipSubmitted. I think either your scheme, or your
level of abstraction is currently flawed; a bit more detailed use case /
description would allow me for sharing more detailed optimization
techniques,.

With that said, there are 2 quickdirty workarounds:
-global objects in appengine are persistent if served from the same machine;
this means, you can fill up a list with the would-be requested objects, and
use that at the next event;
-Check out the Memcache
APIhttp://code.google.com/appengine/docs/python/memcache/overview.htmlfor
in-memory object persistence -these caching techniques could reduce
datastore pressure tenfold, if applied corretly.

-SDr

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eng.ma2m...@gmail.com wrote:

 Since my last topic here where I asked about the best way to store and
 retrieve data to/from datastore, I have done it, and using GQL I limit
 the query to last 50 and fetch them. Now it worked for some time util
 I started getting errors stating that This URI uses a high amount of
 CPU and should be optimised

 The problem is that I have to do the query on BlibSubmitted function.
 The error is for the url: /_wave/robot/jsonrpc

 How can I really optimise this and avoid getting such errors?

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Re: [Google Wave APIs] This URI uses a high amount of CPU and should be optimised

2009-12-16 Thread Maamoun Alshaweesh
For the legitimacy part, currently this is what I could achieve the best to
get my goal in my robot. I had to do this to make the robot memorise the
last options for a specific user.

The robot is already working since long time, but I am enhancing it to cope
with more users. It is transla...@appspot.com

If I tried to do the query from outside the BlipSubmitted,  the retrieved
data won't be reconginsed by the BlipSubmitted function. I tried to retrieve
the data on Robot Added, it doesn't work for some reason.

So the point of fetching 50 at a time is to remember the user's language for
an average of 24 -/+ hours.

2009/12/16 Dragon Silicon sdr...@gmail.com

 Hi there,

 First of all, these error messages are a bit misleading: the used CPU upper
 limit has been lifted, so other than seeing these error messages, your
 application won't be infected. You might, possibly, reach the free quotas at
 some point, though.
 Secondly, I have doubts about the legitimacy for requesting 50 objects from
 the datastore for every BlipSubmitted. I think either your scheme, or your
 level of abstraction is currently flawed; a bit more detailed use case /
 description would allow me for sharing more detailed optimization
 techniques,.

 With that said, there are 2 quickdirty workarounds:
 -global objects in appengine are persistent if served from the same
 machine; this means, you can fill up a list with the would-be requested
 objects, and use that at the next event;
 -Check out the Memcache 
 APIhttp://code.google.com/appengine/docs/python/memcache/overview.htmlfor 
 in-memory object persistence -these caching techniques could reduce
 datastore pressure tenfold, if applied corretly.

 -SDr

 On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 3:13 PM, eng.ma2m...@gmail.com 
 eng.ma2m...@gmail.com wrote:

 Since my last topic here where I asked about the best way to store and
 retrieve data to/from datastore, I have done it, and using GQL I limit
 the query to last 50 and fetch them. Now it worked for some time util
 I started getting errors stating that This URI uses a high amount of
 CPU and should be optimised

 The problem is that I have to do the query on BlibSubmitted function.
 The error is for the url: /_wave/robot/jsonrpc

 How can I really optimise this and avoid getting such errors?

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[Google Wave APIs] Child blip to last blip in a wave

2009-12-16 Thread Anthony Westover
I have noticed that when creating a child of the bottommost blip in a
wave, the child is not indented, but any subsequent children are(since
the parent blip is no longer the last blip, the first child is) Just a
small thing, but it seems really out of place, there is no way to tell
if the last blip is a reply directly to a previous blip, or a brand
new blip appended to the end of the wave.
Right now it is:

Parent Blip
 Second Child
 Third Child
 nth Child
First Child
New Blip

instead of

Parent
First Child
Second Child
nth Child
New Blip

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[Google Wave APIs] Wave API Office Hour Virtual Office Hour starting now!

2009-12-16 Thread Austin Chau
Please join us in sandbox with your API questions -

https://wave.google.com/a/wavesandbox.com/#restored:wave:wavesandbox.com!w%252BjH4J2RDSA

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[Google Wave APIs] wavelet.appendBlip(ID) doesn't set DataDocument

2009-12-16 Thread atarno
hey all,

i've noticed that when i run the following:

wavelet.appendBlip(ID) ;
String id = wavelet.getDataDocument(ID);

id is null.

but when i do this:

Blip initBlip = wavelet.appendBlip();
wavelet.setDataDocument(ID, initBlip.getBlipId());
String id = wavelet.getDataDocument(ID);

id gets the expected value of newly created blip id.

should not the two pieces of code above return the same value of id?

thanks.

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[Google Wave APIs] Re: How to pass value from gadget to robot by Java API

2009-12-16 Thread hvt_kg
Hi All,

thanks all. I had get solution.

Alex

On Dec 17, 6:41 am, dougx douglas.lin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Otherwise you can listen for DOCUMENT_CHANGED events in your robot and
 pull data out of the gadget state.

 ...but here's an example, of using makeRequest():
 (this is a gadget)

 ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8 ?
 Module
 ModulePrefs title=State Example height=220
   Require feature=wave /
 /ModulePrefs
 Content type=html
 ![CDATA[
 style
 #content_div {
     height: 100px;
     width: 400px;
     border: 2px solid #efefef;
     font-family: arial;}

 #msg_div {
     height: 80px;
     overflow: auto;}

 /style
 div id=content_div
     div id=msg_div/div

     !-- Gadget bootstrap. --
     script type=text/javascript
         var obj = {
           'msgs' :  document.getElementById('msg_div'),
           'init' : function() {
             if (wave  wave.isInWaveContainer()) {
               var params = {};
               params[gadgets.io.RequestParameters.CONTENT_TYPE] =
 gadgets.io.ContentType.TEXT;
               var url = http://www.google.com;;
               var response = function(data) {
                 obj.msgs.innerHTML = 'cAllback from makerequest: ' +
 data.text;
               };
               gadgets.io.makeRequest(url, response, params);
             }
           }
         };
         gadgets.util.registerOnLoadHandler(obj.init);
     /script
   ]]
   /Content
 /Module

 ~
 Doug.

 On Dec 16, 4:59 am, Dragon Silicon sdr...@gmail.com wrote:

  Dear Alex,

  The gadgets are capable of doing simple web requests, via the
  gadgets.io.makerequest call.
  This is pretty much detailed in the wave
  articleshttp://code.google.com/apis/wave/articles/gadgetdebugging.html
  .
  Your bot is most probably a standard web application -that is, it can
  receive web requests. Put these together, and you've got working
  communication.
  As a transport layer, we traditionally stick with JSON, but for simple
  purposes a basic HTTP POST usually do the trick.

  Good luck
  -SDr

  On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 7:12 AM, hvt_kg thaihuyn...@gmail.com wrote:
   Hi all,

   Now. I want know how to get value of textbox from gadget pass to bot.
   anyone can help me? example, etc...

   thanks all,
   Alex

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[Google Wave APIs] Re: Any good example ( source code ) of a completely new GUI made for wave

2009-12-16 Thread saurabh
Thanks a lot , Yes I was looking for the same.

Is it possible for you to share the source code , how u did it.

Apreciate your help.

Regards
SAurabh


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 Hi there,



I want to make an application in which I want to make new GUI for wave
can anybody point me to any examples ( source code ) for the same.
If it possible to inherit features like PlayBack from wave gui.

 A couple of weeks back, I've put together a small proof-of-concept called
 Broadwavez http://www.broadwavez.com/, which seems similar to what you're
 looking for. Using the Embed API http://code.google.com/apis/wave/embed/,
 you can basically set the rest of the interface around a wave browser /
 editor; and you also have a limited set of operations to interact with them
 (such as: adding participants, setting UI colors, etc).
 Advantage is you can put this together in less than 5 minutes (and yes, IIRC
 playback is also included) ; the drawback is the limitations of usable
 operations -and it's very non-trivial to extend.

 Let me know if I've missed your point :)

 -SDr



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Re: [Google Wave APIs] Re: Can one user proxy many users

2009-12-16 Thread pamela (Google Employee)
You can request that your Apps domain be Wave-enabled by filling out a
form. You can read more information here:
http://googleenterprise.blogspot.com/2009/09/waving-hello-to-google-apps.html


On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 8:38 PM, saurabh sagarwal1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Pamela,

 As far as I understand I have to have a google app domain and ask for
 add services ...

 I just did that but I cant find any services like google wave can you
 please spend a minute to explain it further.

 Is it a premium service or free.

 Thanks
 Saurabh

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 Thanks a lot pamela for the quick rreply but I am not able to get the
 second point You may want to create
 a Google Apps domain and request that be Wave enabled, as then you
 would be
 able to provision more users on that domain and not be concerned about
 the
 limited public accounts.

 Does that mean:

 I create my website on google apps engine and there my website can be
 wave enabled and I can register more users on my wave engine which are
 completely different from General Google wave ...

 I know i sound little weired but I am not able to understand that ,
 can you please explain a little more.

 Appreciate your help and time.

 Regards
 Saurabh

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 wrote:

  Hi Saraubh-

  I imagine you could use the proxy for property with operations to specify
  the physical users. There will be more support for that in the next version
  of the API. (And there's a bit of info in the protocol 
  doc:http://code.google.com/apis/wave/extensions/robots/protocol.html)

  We don't have a timeline for the public Wave launch. You may want to create
  a Google Apps domain and request that be Wave enabled, as then you would be
  able to provision more users on that domain and not be concerned about the
  limited public accounts.

  - pamela

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   Hi All,

   I want to make an application in which a google wave user can login on
   multiple computers and and multiple users ( physical ) can interact
   with the wave I want to know if there are any technical and legal
   issues to it.

   Additionally any rough idea when wave will be launched as my
   application will be dependednt on google wave.

   Thanks
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[Google Wave APIs] Re: Lasty gadget developers

2009-12-16 Thread Troy Wisniewski
Thank you so much
I know its something minor because a lot of sites don't allow a user
name to have special characters but I guess it could make some people
upset if it doesn't work for them because of an hyphen

thanks again,

Troy

On Nov 25, 6:04 pm, Beldar beldar@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Troy, I'm the Lasty developer, i didn't contemplate that case, but
 i'm gonna look to it and deploy a fix very soon.

 Thanks for making me notice it.

 On Nov 25, 8:13 am, Troy Wisniewski treez...@gmail.com wrote:



  I have realized that it won't work for me due to the fact that my
  username is T-royx on Last.fm

  because there is a hyphen it assumes my user name is Royx

  and fixes?

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[Google Wave APIs] Robot Not responding to events.

2009-12-16 Thread dave
Hi,
I'm trying to develop a very simple bot that simply has two input
fields and a submit button.   I'm having trouble on multiple levels.
My main problem at the moment is that after the bot is initially
added, it doesn't respond to anything at all.   For example, it will
say hello to everyone, but if I then add another participant, it does
nothing.
After that issue gets resolved, then my issue is that I can't make it
respond to a button click at all.   Any help getting me off the ground
would be appreciated.

I've created the fields in my rootBlip and the submit button instance
looks something like this:

private static final String SUBMIT = clicked;
TextView introForm = rootBlip.getDocument();
introForm.appendElement(new FormElement(ElementType.BUTTON, SUBMIT,
Submit));
-
my processEvents function looks like so:
public void processEvents(RobotMessageBundle context) {
  Blip blip;
  TextView textView;
  wavelet = context.getWavelet();

  if(isNewWave(context)) {
botControl = new AdminWavelet(context);
botControl.healthBlip(new String(Starting AdminWave handler), 3);
  }
  for (Event e: context.getEvents()) {
  botControl.healthBlip(e.getType().toString(), 3);
}
}
---
My capabilities file looks like so:
?xml version=1.0 encoding=utf-8?
w:robot xmlns:w=http://wave.google.com/extensions/robots/1.0;
  w:capabilities
   w:capability name=document_changed/
   w:capability name=WAVELET_PARTICIPANTS_CHANGED
content=true/
   w:capability name=WAVELET_SELF_ADDED content=true/
   w:capability name=FORM_BUTTON_CLICKED content=true/
   w:capability name=WAVELET_BLIP_CREATED content=true/
  /w:capabilities
  w:version2/w:version
/w:robot
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[Google Wave APIs] When can I access Google Wave Sandbox

2009-12-16 Thread Mahesh Ishwar
Hello,

I've filled up the form at 'https://services.google.com/fb/forms/
wavesignupfordev/', and would like to know when can I access the sand
box.

Thanks,
Mahesh

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[Google Wave APIs] Waves in Workflow

2009-12-16 Thread Eric Kolotyluk
I have a specific application in mind for using waves in a workflow.
For the purposes of this discussion a workflow is one or more
applications which shepard the user(s) through a process or processes.
What I would like to do is either create the wave, and then pass an
identifier (i.e. URL) for the wave to the first workflow
application. Each subsequent workflow application would pass the wave-
id to the next and so forth. In some cases the first workflow
application might actually create the wave.

The basic idea is that each workflow application would append
information to the wave related to its processing of the workflow:
status, logs, artifacts, etc, and the workflow applications would
really just be participants in that wave. In the end the wave is a
record of what actually happened during the processing of that
workflow, along with all the human interactions with the workflow-
wave.

I have not written a robot yet but I get the gist of how they work.
Your robot only gets called when there is some event about the wave it
needs to process. What I cannot see is how a robot can spontaneously
update the wave with out setting up cron process to get cron events.
If i want quick responses from my robot then I have to set the cron to
poke the robot every minute (or more), and I don't see this as a good
solution.

What would be really nice is if there is some way some external agent
could manipulate the wave given the wave-id. At a minimum this would
be a poke request, that would cause the wave to send a poke-event to
it's robots so they could take action on behalf of the external agent.
Ideally the poke request would take some parameters to be passed on to
the poke event received by the robot(s). You could then have quick
spontaneous updates to the wave from external source, without having a
cron send events every minute or so.

Is there a way to do what I want now, or are there plans to add an API
for this in the future?

Cheers, Eric

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[Google Wave APIs] Re: Wave API Office Hours Wed Dec 15th 11am (US Pacific timezone)

2009-12-16 Thread Eric Kolotyluk
I'm confused - according to my Calendar Wednesday is December 16, 2009

Well at least according to the Calendar, office hours are on the 16th.

Cheers, Eric

On Dec 15, 5:53 pm, Austin Chau (Google employee)
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 This week's office hours will take place at the following time:

 San Francisco (U.S.A. - California) - Wednesday, December 14, 2009 at
 11:00:00 AM

 London (U.K. - England) - Wednesday, December 14, 2009 at 7:00:00 PM

 You can use this tool to see what time it is in your timezone

 http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converted.html?month=12day=14;...

 Office hours are also listed on this calendar (which defaults to US Pacific
 timezone):

 http://code.google.com/events/calendar/

 You can add it to your calendar from there, and if your calendar is setup
 appropriately, it should show up at your local time.

 You can also enable a second timezone in your calendar (MTV + SYD), that
 helps in converting.

 We will create a public sandbox Wave and post a link to it in this group
 when office hours begins.

 See you there!



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  Hi developers,

  Tomorrow Dec 15th @11am (US Pacific timezone) we will be hosting
  virtual office hours in the Wave sandbox.  The URL to the office hours
  wave will be posted 10 mins before the start time.  You are welcome to
  bring any Wave API-related questions.   See you all there :)

  Austin

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[Google Wave APIs] Re: Wave-Powered Forum

2009-12-16 Thread jsterj
I'd like to be added to.  Thanks.  I've been looking for a solution
that would allow me to use Wave in place of forums.



On Dec 3, 6:58 pm, Angel Marquez angel.marq...@gmail.com wrote:
 Me too, please.



 On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 7:37 PM, jon Donovan unfrozen@gmail.com wrote:
  Can I get added to this wave?

  unfrozen@googlewave.com

  I want to implement Wave into my MMO forum site. If this is successful
  for external game interaction for Guilds/Factions I plan to present my
  work to the game developers and show the other factions how to use it.

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Re: [Google Wave APIs] Re: Wave API Office Hours Wed Dec 15th 11am (US Pacific timezone)

2009-12-16 Thread Austin Chau (Google employee)
Hey Eric, sorry that was a mistake on that line.  I was looking at my
calendar with a different timezone, sorry about that.  I will post the
transcript in a little bit.  Hope to see you next time.

You can check the developer calendar which includes our weekly office hours
schedule -

http://code.google.com/events/calendar/

Cheers,
Austin

On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 9:02 AM, Eric Kolotyluk e...@sfu.ca wrote:

 I'm confused - according to my Calendar Wednesday is December 16, 2009

 Well at least according to the Calendar, office hours are on the 16th.

 Cheers, Eric

 On Dec 15, 5:53 pm, Austin Chau (Google employee)
 api.aus...@google.com wrote:
  This week's office hours will take place at the following time:
 
  San Francisco (U.S.A. - California) - Wednesday, December 14, 2009 at
  11:00:00 AM
 
  London (U.K. - England) - Wednesday, December 14, 2009 at 7:00:00 PM
 
  You can use this tool to see what time it is in your timezone
 
  http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converted.html?month=12day=14;...
 
  Office hours are also listed on this calendar (which defaults to US
 Pacific
  timezone):
 
  http://code.google.com/events/calendar/
 
  You can add it to your calendar from there, and if your calendar is setup
  appropriately, it should show up at your local time.
 
  You can also enable a second timezone in your calendar (MTV + SYD), that
  helps in converting.
 
  We will create a public sandbox Wave and post a link to it in this group
  when office hours begins.
 
  See you there!
 
 
 
  On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 5:44 PM, Austin Chau austin.c...@gmail.com
 wrote:
   Hi developers,
 
   Tomorrow Dec 15th @11am (US Pacific timezone) we will be hosting
   virtual office hours in the Wave sandbox.  The URL to the office hours
   wave will be posted 10 mins before the start time.  You are welcome to
   bring any Wave API-related questions.   See you all there :)
 
   Austin
 
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[Google Wave APIs] Virtual office hours will be cancelled for the next 2 weeks

2009-12-16 Thread Austin Chau
Hi developers,

Due to the upcoming holiday break, the weekly Wave API virtual office
hour will be cancelled for the next 2 weeks.  The regular office hours
schedule will be resumed in 2 weeks.  See you guys in 2010!

Have a great holiday and happy waving :)

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[Google Wave APIs] Virtual Office Hour Wed Dec. 16th Transcript

2009-12-16 Thread Austin Chau
[CLOSED] Office Hours: 2009-12-16

Welcome to API office hours!

*Please top post your question or comment about the robot, gadget, or
embed API to make sure we see it. You can do so by replying to this
blip.*

*A transcript of this wave will be made publicly available. If you
don't want to appear in the transcript, delete your blip after getting
a response. Be careful not to remove neighboring blips.*

*And don't add robots to this wave!*
Reply
Edit
11:06 am
You:

Hi!
Reply
Edit
11:07 am
Edited by Sung Wu:

hi! good morning, Austin.
Reply
Edit
11:10 am
Edited by Sung Wu:

got a question.

regarding the java robot issue on setField().

When we do setField() on java robot, the gadget does not get
notifications. Gadget wave.getState() still shows the old value.

is this in the plan to be fixed?
Reply
Edit
11:11 am
Sung Wu:

i have the issue #. let me find it.
Reply
Edit
11:12 am
You:

hmm ... let me try to find that one bug report about this. In general
setField should work to update gadget states. But I remember tehre is
a use case taht it doesn't work well, that the event is responding to
a gadget state update and wtihin that same session you are trying to
do another update.
Reply
Edit
11:12 am
Edited by Sung Wu:

yesthat's exactly the use case, when gadget does a submitValue()/
submitDelta(), robot gets the event, then robot setField in response
to gadget's change.
Reply
Edit
11:12 am
You:

Yes exactly, don't think that is fixed yet. Let me try to find that
report.
Reply
Edit
11:13 am
You:

This is it - http://code.google.com/p/google-wave-resources/issues/detail?id=406
Reply
Edit
11:14 am
Sung Wu:

yes, that is the one.
Reply
Edit
11:14 am
You:

I checked the internal log, we are still investigating this. Sorry
about that.
Reply
Edit
11:15 am
Sung Wu:

that's ok. does anyone know of any timeframe of this being fixed?
Reply
Edit
11:17 am
You:

Not really sure, I can ping the guys about this again.
Reply
Edit
11:50 am
Sung Wu:

thank you. that would be great. just let me know if there are any news
whenever there is any news.

Actually, I starred the issue, so I should get notification. So I am
covered.
Reply
Edit
11:24 am
Edited by Sung Wu:

Is this issue on python side of robot as well? I mean,


Reply
Edit
11:24 am
You:

I haven't verified that with Python client library but I think this is
a backend issue. From the log it seems like the operations are sent
out
Reply
Edit
11:26 am
Sung Wu:

Ok, thanks for the info. so we won't be able to fix by looking at java
robot code even if we look into it.
Reply
Edit
11:29 am
Sung Wu:

Alright, thanks for the update, Austin. Talk to you later. :)
Reply
Edit
11:31 am
You:

later good seeing you
Reply
Edit
11:26 am
Mark Jepson:

Anybody mind if I ask a couple of questions and pop back post hours
for the answers?


Reply
Edit
11:27 am
You:

yea sure go for it.
Reply
Edit
11:34 am
Mark Jepson:

Had a couple of questions ready to paste in from another wave but keep
getting the shiny message. Can't copy them from notepad either. Will
have to hand type.


What are the plans for migration for people on google apps?. A finger
in the air month or quarter would be great
Reply
Edit
11:36 am
You:

Do you mean adding Wave as part of the google apps?
Reply
Edit
11:36 am
Mark Jepson:

yes
Reply
Edit
11:38 am
You:

I am not particularly keen on the roadmap around wave and google apps.
I can find out.
Reply
Edit
11:37 am
Mark Jepson:

That would be great. I'll check back later for the answer.
Reply
Edit
11:38 am
You:

Yea if I don't find out today, ping us in the group I will get someone
who has knowledge with that to respond.
Reply
Edit
11:39 am
Mark Jepson:

Great.
Reply
Edit
11:35 am
Mark Jepson:

What plans are there for API integration with gmail (comes from the
previous question really)
Reply
Edit
11:42 am
You:

I am not sure I understand what you mean by API integration. Do you
mean receiving Wave update from gmail?
Reply
Edit
11:43 am
Mark Jepson:

Yes, I want to able to combine messages in apps from gmail and wave.
Reply
Edit
11:53 am
You:

Wave/gmail integration is something that we are actively looking at.
As soon as something is ready to be played with we will definitely
notify the group first.
Reply
Edit
11:54 am
Vadim Barsukov:

Hello everyone! Hopefully, Office Hours are not over yet? :)

I have a question regarding the interaction between Google Groups and
Google Wave.

Will provides for the possibility of Google Wave API to manage group
memberships Google Groups? And vice versa? For example, some group is
added as a member of a wave. And a member of the group commits
misconduct. Do we have the means to exclude him from the group and/or
from the wave?
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12:00 pm
You:

Groups that you see in wave is just a group from Google Group. The
management of its membership falls under Google Group, as the group
owner/mod can modify its membership. In this same way, Wave is much
like other client that allows groups to be used as a participant but
the actual management