Re: Designer- Engineer workflow with GWT

2009-04-16 Thread Sumit Chandel
Hi Ip,
We had a blog post on the GWT blog a little while ago talking about applying
style to your GWT application. The post was written by the folks behind
StudyBlue.net, and I think it does a great job of talking about best
practices you should use to get style into your GWT applications and how how
those practices can help create a good flow between designers and engineers.

I would recommend you check it out (link below).

GWT: No need to shortchange your style:
http://googlewebtoolkit.blogspot.com/2008/12/gwt-no-need-to-shortchange-your-style.html

Hope that helps,
-Sumit Chandel

On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 4:36 PM, lp lpalaniap...@drillinginfo.com wrote:


 We have recently started using GWT to develop a few complex widgets.

 The people who are working on those projectrs are very good Java
 developers, however they lack css skills.
 We usually have an in-house web designer take care of the css styling
 for our products.

 With GWT, I am not sure how to bring about the co-ordination in
 workflow between the designer and the developer.
 I was wondering is there is a tried and tested workflow that is being
 followed in the GWT community
 to help solve this problem

 Thanks
 lp

 


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Designer- Engineer workflow with GWT

2009-04-13 Thread lp

We have recently started using GWT to develop a few complex widgets.

The people who are working on those projectrs are very good Java
developers, however they lack css skills.
We usually have an in-house web designer take care of the css styling
for our products.

With GWT, I am not sure how to bring about the co-ordination in
workflow between the designer and the developer.
I was wondering is there is a tried and tested workflow that is being
followed in the GWT community
to help solve this problem

Thanks
lp

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Re: Designer- Engineer workflow with GWT

2009-04-13 Thread Jeff Chimene

On 04/13/2009 04:36 PM, lp wrote:
 We have recently started using GWT to develop a few complex widgets.

 The people who are working on those projectrs are very good Java
 developers, however they lack css skills.
 We usually have an in-house web designer take care of the css styling
 for our products.

 With GWT, I am not sure how to bring about the co-ordination in
 workflow between the designer and the developer.
 I was wondering is there is a tried and tested workflow that is being
 followed in the GWT community
 to help solve this problem


Workflow is a fairly ambiguous term. You'll have to decide how to 
integrate GWT into the work product of your design team. It might be 
hooking onto a series of static pages, or dynamically generating pages 
according to the design rules. GWT is flexible enough to handle a 
variety of implementation environments.

Consider putting the shared files into a source code manager (SCM). GWT 
1.6 has good support for Ant; which can interact w/ a SCM to pull 
updates from the SCM as they arrive from the design group. There is also 
GWT/Maven expertise floating around this list, so that may also be a 
good fit for your project.

You'll have to describe a bit more of your web design process if you're 
looking to ensure that the design team has sufficient influence over the 
Java development. For example, is there a story board? Does the design 
team create the site look and feel sui generis via a tool like Dreamweaver?

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Re: Designer- Engineer workflow with GWT

2009-04-13 Thread Lux

So far we have used JSP ad HTML pages for laying out the web page.

First we agree on the basic layout - i.e what data is displayed on a
page, which UI control goes where etc.
Then the java developer would create the server side java code and the
jsp page with the basic controls laid out.
Then we would put the files into SCM and the web designer would add in
their updates.

Now with GWT, we are building a charting wizard as a widget. The
widget is going to be placed in one div tag in a jsp file.
So we cannot follow the method we have following for so long.

One thing that I can think of is : The web deisgner could create a
parallel Mock HTML UI using dreamweaver or so and apply the css styles
to that
And the Java developers could pick the mock up from the SCM and find
the parallels in the code and apply the styles.

I was wondering how other people handle this issue.

On Apr 13, 8:10 pm, Jeff Chimene jchim...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 04/13/2009 04:36 PM, lp wrote:

  We have recently started using GWT to develop a few complex widgets.

  The people who are working on those projectrs are very good Java
  developers, however they lack css skills.
  We usually have an in-house web designer take care of the css styling
  for our products.

  With GWT, I am not sure how to bring about the co-ordination in
  workflow between the designer and the developer.
  I was wondering is there is a tried and tested workflow that is being
  followed in the GWT community
  to help solve this problem

 Workflow is a fairly ambiguous term. You'll have to decide how to
 integrate GWT into the work product of your design team. It might be
 hooking onto a series of static pages, or dynamically generating pages
 according to the design rules. GWT is flexible enough to handle a
 variety of implementation environments.

 Consider putting the shared files into a source code manager (SCM). GWT
 1.6 has good support for Ant; which can interact w/ a SCM to pull
 updates from the SCM as they arrive from the design group. There is also
 GWT/Maven expertise floating around this list, so that may also be a
 good fit for your project.

 You'll have to describe a bit more of your web design process if you're
 looking to ensure that the design team has sufficient influence over the
 Java development. For example, is there a story board? Does the design
 team create the site look and feel sui generis via a tool like Dreamweaver?

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