Re: My app - shameless plug :-)
Oop, the corect site is http://privatecloud.budhnet.com/ On Sun, 2010-02-14 at 13:46 -0700, Duong BaTien wrote: > Thanks Ben. We can always be a little happier if we can Share as we have > received a lot from Others. I have been retired from 2000, but very > passionate about One a part of the Whole - the Whole in One. Here is my > site on GAE http://privateclound.budhnet.com/ > > BaTien > > > On Sun, 2010-02-14 at 11:49 -0800, Benjamin wrote: > > Duong, if your question was for me - i'm seriously considering going > > open source with Nimbits. There are a few reasons i have to keep parts > > of it proprietary. I will almost certainly release to source to all of > > the client interfaces - in fact, i put a lot of free code on my blog: > > http://nimbits.blogspot.com/ > > > > The whole point of nimbits is to provide a single place to store and > > share historical data - and it provides web services you can program > > on top of - i'm posting code on how to do this every day. > > > > There are a couple of parts of the backend platform i spent so much > > time on, it's hard to open it up to the world - but it gives me > > something to think about. Thanks for your post. > > > > Ben > > > > > > > > On Feb 14, 11:43 am, John Denley wrote: > > > LOL, well firstly my source code is probably not at all well written! > > > > > > I am looking to employ a "real" programmer to completely rewrite my > > > application in the next few months though, assuming that someone doesnt > > > buy > > > us! ;) > > > > > > On the other hand if someone can either point me to a really good website, > > > or write to me "offline" and explain to me why open source is a good way > > > to > > > go, and how I can protect my product from being stolen if I do put it open > > > source? > > > > > > On 14 February 2010 16:34, Duong BaTien wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi: > > > > > > > Is there any thought of Sharing the source code for the community > > > > benefits? It is very easy with athttp://code.google.com/p/yourProject > > > > > > > Duong Batien > > > > DBGROUPS and BudhNet > > > > > > > On Sun, 2010-02-14 at 06:48 -0800, Benjamin wrote: > > > > > Hi Cris, thanks! > > > > > > > > To be honest, i've been working on a data historian for over 6 years > > > > > in one form or another. I always ran into problems with either > > > > > scalability or delivery. Always ended up having to tell a client they > > > > > needed to build a huge server to run my code - and i was just another > > > > > expensive historian. It wasn't until the advent of cloud computing > > > > > that I was able to deliver the service. > > > > > > > > I couldn't even begin to calculate how much time i put into the > > > > > compression algorithms, calculation engine and all of the things i put > > > > > into the back end and how much time I put into the app itself. Since > > > > > the hard part was done, it only took me two days to put together the > > > > > android piece, and about two weeks to create with the windows desktop > > > > > client. That's the great thing about SOA. > > > > > > > > -Ben > > > > > > > > On Feb 14, 5:43 am, Chris Lercher wrote: > > > > > > Looks good, great idea! First question: How many hours did you > > > > > > invest > > > > > > to develop the AppEngine/GWT app? And how many additionally for the > > > > > > Android interface? > > > > > > > > > Chris > > > > > > > -- > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > > Groups > > > > "Google Web Toolkit" group. > > > > To post to this group, send email to > > > > google-web-tool...@googlegroups.com. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > > google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > > > cr...@googlegroups.com> > > > > . > > > > For more options, visit this group at > > > >http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google Web Toolkit" group. To post to this group, send email to google-web-tool...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en.
Re: My app - shameless plug :-)
Thanks Ben. We can always be a little happier if we can Share as we have received a lot from Others. I have been retired from 2000, but very passionate about One a part of the Whole - the Whole in One. Here is my site on GAE http://privateclound.budhnet.com/ BaTien On Sun, 2010-02-14 at 11:49 -0800, Benjamin wrote: > Duong, if your question was for me - i'm seriously considering going > open source with Nimbits. There are a few reasons i have to keep parts > of it proprietary. I will almost certainly release to source to all of > the client interfaces - in fact, i put a lot of free code on my blog: > http://nimbits.blogspot.com/ > > The whole point of nimbits is to provide a single place to store and > share historical data - and it provides web services you can program > on top of - i'm posting code on how to do this every day. > > There are a couple of parts of the backend platform i spent so much > time on, it's hard to open it up to the world - but it gives me > something to think about. Thanks for your post. > > Ben > > > > On Feb 14, 11:43 am, John Denley wrote: > > LOL, well firstly my source code is probably not at all well written! > > > > I am looking to employ a "real" programmer to completely rewrite my > > application in the next few months though, assuming that someone doesnt buy > > us! ;) > > > > On the other hand if someone can either point me to a really good website, > > or write to me "offline" and explain to me why open source is a good way to > > go, and how I can protect my product from being stolen if I do put it open > > source? > > > > On 14 February 2010 16:34, Duong BaTien wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi: > > > > > Is there any thought of Sharing the source code for the community > > > benefits? It is very easy with athttp://code.google.com/p/yourProject > > > > > Duong Batien > > > DBGROUPS and BudhNet > > > > > On Sun, 2010-02-14 at 06:48 -0800, Benjamin wrote: > > > > Hi Cris, thanks! > > > > > > To be honest, i've been working on a data historian for over 6 years > > > > in one form or another. I always ran into problems with either > > > > scalability or delivery. Always ended up having to tell a client they > > > > needed to build a huge server to run my code - and i was just another > > > > expensive historian. It wasn't until the advent of cloud computing > > > > that I was able to deliver the service. > > > > > > I couldn't even begin to calculate how much time i put into the > > > > compression algorithms, calculation engine and all of the things i put > > > > into the back end and how much time I put into the app itself. Since > > > > the hard part was done, it only took me two days to put together the > > > > android piece, and about two weeks to create with the windows desktop > > > > client. That's the great thing about SOA. > > > > > > -Ben > > > > > > On Feb 14, 5:43 am, Chris Lercher wrote: > > > > > Looks good, great idea! First question: How many hours did you invest > > > > > to develop the AppEngine/GWT app? And how many additionally for the > > > > > Android interface? > > > > > > > Chris > > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > > "Google Web Toolkit" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to google-web-tool...@googlegroups.com. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > > cr...@googlegroups.com> > > > . > > > For more options, visit this group at > > >http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google Web Toolkit" group. To post to this group, send email to google-web-tool...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en.
Re: My app - shameless plug :-)
Duong, if your question was for me - i'm seriously considering going open source with Nimbits. There are a few reasons i have to keep parts of it proprietary. I will almost certainly release to source to all of the client interfaces - in fact, i put a lot of free code on my blog: http://nimbits.blogspot.com/ The whole point of nimbits is to provide a single place to store and share historical data - and it provides web services you can program on top of - i'm posting code on how to do this every day. There are a couple of parts of the backend platform i spent so much time on, it's hard to open it up to the world - but it gives me something to think about. Thanks for your post. Ben On Feb 14, 11:43 am, John Denley wrote: > LOL, well firstly my source code is probably not at all well written! > > I am looking to employ a "real" programmer to completely rewrite my > application in the next few months though, assuming that someone doesnt buy > us! ;) > > On the other hand if someone can either point me to a really good website, > or write to me "offline" and explain to me why open source is a good way to > go, and how I can protect my product from being stolen if I do put it open > source? > > On 14 February 2010 16:34, Duong BaTien wrote: > > > > > Hi: > > > Is there any thought of Sharing the source code for the community > > benefits? It is very easy with athttp://code.google.com/p/yourProject > > > Duong Batien > > DBGROUPS and BudhNet > > > On Sun, 2010-02-14 at 06:48 -0800, Benjamin wrote: > > > Hi Cris, thanks! > > > > To be honest, i've been working on a data historian for over 6 years > > > in one form or another. I always ran into problems with either > > > scalability or delivery. Always ended up having to tell a client they > > > needed to build a huge server to run my code - and i was just another > > > expensive historian. It wasn't until the advent of cloud computing > > > that I was able to deliver the service. > > > > I couldn't even begin to calculate how much time i put into the > > > compression algorithms, calculation engine and all of the things i put > > > into the back end and how much time I put into the app itself. Since > > > the hard part was done, it only took me two days to put together the > > > android piece, and about two weeks to create with the windows desktop > > > client. That's the great thing about SOA. > > > > -Ben > > > > On Feb 14, 5:43 am, Chris Lercher wrote: > > > > Looks good, great idea! First question: How many hours did you invest > > > > to develop the AppEngine/GWT app? And how many additionally for the > > > > Android interface? > > > > > Chris > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "Google Web Toolkit" group. > > To post to this group, send email to google-web-tool...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > cr...@googlegroups.com> > > . > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google Web Toolkit" group. To post to this group, send email to google-web-tool...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en.
Re: My app - shameless plug :-)
LOL, well firstly my source code is probably not at all well written! I am looking to employ a "real" programmer to completely rewrite my application in the next few months though, assuming that someone doesnt buy us! ;) On the other hand if someone can either point me to a really good website, or write to me "offline" and explain to me why open source is a good way to go, and how I can protect my product from being stolen if I do put it open source? On 14 February 2010 16:34, Duong BaTien wrote: > Hi: > > Is there any thought of Sharing the source code for the community > benefits? It is very easy with at http://code.google.com/p/yourProject > > Duong Batien > DBGROUPS and BudhNet > > On Sun, 2010-02-14 at 06:48 -0800, Benjamin wrote: > > Hi Cris, thanks! > > > > To be honest, i've been working on a data historian for over 6 years > > in one form or another. I always ran into problems with either > > scalability or delivery. Always ended up having to tell a client they > > needed to build a huge server to run my code - and i was just another > > expensive historian. It wasn't until the advent of cloud computing > > that I was able to deliver the service. > > > > I couldn't even begin to calculate how much time i put into the > > compression algorithms, calculation engine and all of the things i put > > into the back end and how much time I put into the app itself. Since > > the hard part was done, it only took me two days to put together the > > android piece, and about two weeks to create with the windows desktop > > client. That's the great thing about SOA. > > > > -Ben > > > > On Feb 14, 5:43 am, Chris Lercher wrote: > > > Looks good, great idea! First question: How many hours did you invest > > > to develop the AppEngine/GWT app? And how many additionally for the > > > Android interface? > > > > > > Chris > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Google Web Toolkit" group. > To post to this group, send email to google-web-tool...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google Web Toolkit" group. To post to this group, send email to google-web-tool...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en.
Re: My app - shameless plug :-)
Hi: Is there any thought of Sharing the source code for the community benefits? It is very easy with at http://code.google.com/p/yourProject Duong Batien DBGROUPS and BudhNet On Sun, 2010-02-14 at 06:48 -0800, Benjamin wrote: > Hi Cris, thanks! > > To be honest, i've been working on a data historian for over 6 years > in one form or another. I always ran into problems with either > scalability or delivery. Always ended up having to tell a client they > needed to build a huge server to run my code - and i was just another > expensive historian. It wasn't until the advent of cloud computing > that I was able to deliver the service. > > I couldn't even begin to calculate how much time i put into the > compression algorithms, calculation engine and all of the things i put > into the back end and how much time I put into the app itself. Since > the hard part was done, it only took me two days to put together the > android piece, and about two weeks to create with the windows desktop > client. That's the great thing about SOA. > > -Ben > > On Feb 14, 5:43 am, Chris Lercher wrote: > > Looks good, great idea! First question: How many hours did you invest > > to develop the AppEngine/GWT app? And how many additionally for the > > Android interface? > > > > Chris > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google Web Toolkit" group. To post to this group, send email to google-web-tool...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en.
Re: My app - shameless plug :-)
Id be tempted to ask Chris why he is asking the question, because if you are trying to get an idea as to how long it takes to get a GWT/GAE application up and running, its entirely dependent on how complex you are planning to make your application. As a slight benchmark, I knew nothing about how to write a web application at the end of July last year and very little about how to program in java (although I have dabbled, and have done a fair bit of C and VB programming in the past). I started watching some of the videos from google IO 2009 back in August, started coding in "anger" at the beginning of September and went live with my first beta at a customer side with my application on November 1st. That customer is still using the system, we have 7 other beta testers now, and we are just on the verge of going properly live any day now so thats from NOTHING to live in less than 6 months! On 14 February 2010 14:48, Benjamin wrote: > Hi Cris, thanks! > > To be honest, i've been working on a data historian for over 6 years > in one form or another. I always ran into problems with either > scalability or delivery. Always ended up having to tell a client they > needed to build a huge server to run my code - and i was just another > expensive historian. It wasn't until the advent of cloud computing > that I was able to deliver the service. > > I couldn't even begin to calculate how much time i put into the > compression algorithms, calculation engine and all of the things i put > into the back end and how much time I put into the app itself. Since > the hard part was done, it only took me two days to put together the > android piece, and about two weeks to create with the windows desktop > client. That's the great thing about SOA. > > -Ben > > On Feb 14, 5:43 am, Chris Lercher wrote: > > Looks good, great idea! First question: How many hours did you invest > > to develop the AppEngine/GWT app? And how many additionally for the > > Android interface? > > > > Chris > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Google Web Toolkit" group. > To post to this group, send email to google-web-tool...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google Web Toolkit" group. To post to this group, send email to google-web-tool...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en.
Re: My app - shameless plug :-)
Hi Cris, thanks! To be honest, i've been working on a data historian for over 6 years in one form or another. I always ran into problems with either scalability or delivery. Always ended up having to tell a client they needed to build a huge server to run my code - and i was just another expensive historian. It wasn't until the advent of cloud computing that I was able to deliver the service. I couldn't even begin to calculate how much time i put into the compression algorithms, calculation engine and all of the things i put into the back end and how much time I put into the app itself. Since the hard part was done, it only took me two days to put together the android piece, and about two weeks to create with the windows desktop client. That's the great thing about SOA. -Ben On Feb 14, 5:43 am, Chris Lercher wrote: > Looks good, great idea! First question: How many hours did you invest > to develop the AppEngine/GWT app? And how many additionally for the > Android interface? > > Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google Web Toolkit" group. To post to this group, send email to google-web-tool...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en.
Re: My app - shameless plug :-)
Looks good, great idea! First question: How many hours did you invest to develop the AppEngine/GWT app? And how many additionally for the Android interface? Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google Web Toolkit" group. To post to this group, send email to google-web-tool...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en.
My app - shameless plug :-)
Hey Guys, Well i'm pretty much ready to release my app engine / GWT app to the world so i thought i would put out a quick post about the Beta to you guys. I've worked for 12 years in the process control / manufacturing industry and I've done a lot of work with Data Historians - these are huge systems that cost tens of thousands of $ - I always wanted a small / cheaper data historian i could hook my Aquarium up to so I made one. http://www.nimbits.com is online and provides a service for efficiently storing time series data (such as a changing temperature) on App Engine. You can code against it as a service or use one of our UIs. I posted a Windows Desktop App, An Android Interface, and a lot of sample code on the web site. As you feed time series data into data points, you can perform calculations on the data, get email alerts, and see your changing values in spreadsheets, diagrams and your phone. There is also a social networking aspect to it; you can share your datapoints with friends. Check out the website, it's all free - i hope you guys can get some use out of it and as always, i appreciate any feedback. I'd also be happy to answer any questions if you'd like to know how any of the GWT functionality was developed. Here is a blog posting of mine that has some screen shots and more info: http://nimbits.blogspot.com/2009/11/quick-view-of-nimbits.html Ben -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google Web Toolkit" group. To post to this group, send email to google-web-tool...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en.
