[GRASS-dev] no grass plugin in qgis installed from osgeo4w

[Veronica Andreo]

Hi devs,

me again, sorry...

So, this comes from the previous email, but it is a different issue...

I also got qgis stable (2.12) from osgeo4w 32bits installer and there seems
to be NO grass plugin installed nor available in the plugin list.

There's also NO grass tools in Processing and I have the latest version
avilable. I guess I missed selecting some other things in the installation
process, but don't know what.

Any instruction is welcome! :)

Cheers,
Vero
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Re: [GRASS-dev] no grass plugin in qgis installed from osgeo4w

[Helmut Kudrnovsky]

Hi Veronica,


Veronica Andreo wrote
> Hi devs,
> 
> me again, sorry...
> 
> So, this comes from the previous email, but it is a different issue...
> 
> I also got qgis stable (2.12) from osgeo4w 32bits installer and there
> seems
> to be NO grass plugin installed nor available in the plugin list.
> 
> There's also NO grass tools in Processing and I have the latest version
> avilable. I guess I missed selecting some other things in the installation
> process, but don't know what.
> 
> Any instruction is welcome! :)
> 
> Cheers,
> Vero

AFAIK grass plugin isn't installed by OSGeo4W default installation.

start the  OSGeo4W-setup -> advanced install -> Libs:

activate there:

qgis-grass plugin (for grass64)
qgis-grass plugin common
qgis-grass plugin7 (for grass7)






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Re: [GRASS-dev] no grass plugin in qgis installed from osgeo4w

[Veronica Andreo]

Hi Stefan

2015-10-27 10:48 GMT-03:00 Blumentrath, Stefan :

> Hei Vero,
>
>
>
> Did you go through the advanced install in OSGeo4W? There you should have
> the “qgis-grass-plugin7” (and probably also necessary
> “qgis-grass-plugin-common”) available.
>

Yeah, advanced install... Meep! I forgot some some essential clicks,
maybe... ouch! Will try again and go back with news...


> For the shell issue you can have a look here:
>
> https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/grass-dev/2014-October/071294.html
>
>
will try :)

Is OSGeoLive DVD/USB an alternative for you? That may help to avoid a lot
> of trouble (esp. when prepared and provided by you), caused e.g. by user
> names with non-ascii characters, missing-dlls access rights…
>

I thought of it, but for the time being i'll try stick to local
installation of grass and qgis ()... I'd want/like them to learn grass and
then use/include it in their usual workflows... and not that they have to
start a virtual machine and change OS to use grass... they may do that for
some time but then, I feel they would drop it... Let's see how it goes :)

Thanks much, Stefan!

Cheers,
Vero
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Re: [GRASS-dev] no grass plugin in qgis installed from osgeo4w

[Markus Neteler]

On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 3:53 PM, Pedro Venâncio 
wrote:
> Hi Veronica,
>
> Did you install GRASS in OSGeo4W? Which version?
> On Sunday I made an installation on Windows and I found a problem. GRASS
> 7.0.2RC is already available on OSGeo4W. However, the .bat file that is
> created for the use of GRASS7 with QGIS, does not work, because it points
to
> the folder structure of GRASS 7.0.1.

Hi Pedro:
I'm not on the QGIS list, please forward to them that they would better use
this approach to get the path rather than hardocing it:

grass70 --config path

If they need Python, they could use something like this:

https://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Working_with_GRASS_without_starting_it_explicitly#Python:_GRASS_GIS_7

# query GRASS 7 itself for its GISBASE
startcmd = [grass7bin, '--config', 'path']

p = subprocess.Popen(startcmd, shell=False,
 stdout=subprocess.PIPE, stderr=subprocess.PIPE)
out, err = p.communicate()if p.returncode != 0:
print >>sys.stderr, "ERROR: Cannot find GRASS GIS 7 start script
(%s)" % startcmd
sys.exit(-1)
gisbase = out.strip('\n\r')
 # Set GISBASE environment variableos.environ['GISBASE'] = gisbase#
the following not needed with trunkos.environ['PATH'] += os.pathsep +
os.path.join(gisbase, 'extrabin')# add path to GRASS addons
home = os.path.expanduser("~")os.environ['PATH'] += os.pathsep +
os.path.join(home, '.grass7', 'addons', 'scripts')



Best
Markus
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Re: [GRASS-dev] no grass plugin in qgis installed from osgeo4w

[Helmut Kudrnovsky]

Veronica Andreo wrote
> Hi again :)
> 
> 2015-10-27 12:15 GMT-03:00 Helmut Kudrnovsky 

> hellik@

> :
>>
>>
>> AFAIK grass plugin isn't installed by OSGeo4W default installation.
>>
>> start the  OSGeo4W-setup -> advanced install -> Libs:
>>
>> activate there:
>>
>> qgis-grass plugin (for grass64)
>> qgis-grass plugin common
>> qgis-grass plugin7 (for grass7)
>>
> 
> So, i activated these libraries and now I get two different QGIS icons:
> one
> with grass6 and the other with grass7
> 
> The one with grass6 works fine, both grass plugin and grass tools through
> processing are there and seem to work
> 
> But, the one with grass7 does not have grass plugin installed nor in the
> available plugin list and, maybe because of that (?), grass tools through
> processing do not work and when trying to use any of them it opens a
> dialog
> box saying I need to configure grassgis7 folder... But there's no GRASS
> item in Configuration --> Options (maybe just because the grass plugin is
> not there), so I don't know where or if i even can do that without the
> grass plugin... sorry for ignorant here :(
> 
> Thanks so much all of you for your help!
> Best,
> Vero

as maybe this is an packaging issue, so may better ask on the QGIS dev
and/or OSGeo4W ML (https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/osgeo4w-dev)



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Re: [GRASS-dev] no grass plugin in qgis installed from osgeo4w

[Veronica Andreo]

Hi Pedro,

2015-10-27 11:53 GMT-03:00 Pedro Venâncio :

> Hi Veronica,
>
> Did you install GRASS in OSGeo4W? Which version?
>

Yes, i got grass stable (grass7.0.2RC) from OSGeo4W 32 bits

On Sunday I made an installation on Windows and I found a problem. GRASS
> 7.0.2RC is already available on OSGeo4W. However, the .bat file that is
> created for the use of GRASS7 with QGIS, does not work, because it points
> to the folder structure of GRASS 7.0.1.
>
> I don't know if this has been corrected since then, and whether this might
> be your problem. I am forwarding this thread also for QGIS mailing list.
>
> Ah! So, this might be (one of) the problem(s)... je!
Thanks much!

Vero
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Re: [GRASS-dev] no grass plugin in qgis installed from osgeo4w

[Moritz Lennert]

On 27/10/15 17:12, Veronica Andreo wrote:

Hi again :)

2015-10-27 12:15 GMT-03:00 Helmut Kudrnovsky >:


AFAIK grass plugin isn't installed by OSGeo4W default installation.

start the  OSGeo4W-setup -> advanced install -> Libs:

activate there:

qgis-grass plugin (for grass64)
qgis-grass plugin common
qgis-grass plugin7 (for grass7)

So, i activated these libraries and now I get two different QGIS icons:
one with grass6 and the other with grass7

The one with grass6 works fine, both grass plugin and grass tools
through processing are there and seem to work

But, the one with grass7 does not have grass plugin installed nor in the
available plugin list and, maybe because of that (?), grass tools
through processing do not work and when trying to use any of them it
opens a dialog box saying I need to configure grassgis7 folder... But
there's no GRASS item in Configuration --> Options (maybe just because
the grass plugin is not there), so I don't know where or if i even can
do that without the grass plugin... sorry for ignorant here :(


AFAIK, GRASS access via Processing does not depend on the grass plugin. 
However, you need to activate GRASS 7 in Processing->Options->Service 
providers->Grass 7.


Moritz
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Re: [GRASS-dev] no grass plugin in qgis installed from osgeo4w

[Veronica Andreo]

2015-10-27 13:22 GMT-03:00 Moritz Lennert :

> AFAIK, GRASS access via Processing does not depend on the grass plugin.
>> However, you need to activate GRASS 7 in Processing->Options->Service
>> providers->Grass 7.
>>
>
> Yes! Thanks much, Moritz! Was searching in the wrong place (hihihi). This
solved the issue with using grass tools through Processing.

Still grass plugin missing.

Thanks so much!
Vero
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Re: [GRASS-dev] no grass plugin in qgis installed from osgeo4w

[Veronica Andreo]

Hi again :)

2015-10-27 12:15 GMT-03:00 Helmut Kudrnovsky :
>
>
> AFAIK grass plugin isn't installed by OSGeo4W default installation.
>
> start the  OSGeo4W-setup -> advanced install -> Libs:
>
> activate there:
>
> qgis-grass plugin (for grass64)
> qgis-grass plugin common
> qgis-grass plugin7 (for grass7)
>

So, i activated these libraries and now I get two different QGIS icons: one
with grass6 and the other with grass7

The one with grass6 works fine, both grass plugin and grass tools through
processing are there and seem to work

But, the one with grass7 does not have grass plugin installed nor in the
available plugin list and, maybe because of that (?), grass tools through
processing do not work and when trying to use any of them it opens a dialog
box saying I need to configure grassgis7 folder... But there's no GRASS
item in Configuration --> Options (maybe just because the grass plugin is
not there), so I don't know where or if i even can do that without the
grass plugin... sorry for ignorant here :(

Thanks so much all of you for your help!
Best,
Vero
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Re: [GRASS-dev] no grass plugin in qgis installed from osgeo4w

[Pedro Venâncio]

Hi Veronica,

Did you install GRASS in OSGeo4W? Which version?
On Sunday I made an installation on Windows and I found a problem. GRASS
7.0.2RC is already available on OSGeo4W. However, the .bat file that is
created for the use of GRASS7 with QGIS, does not work, because it points
to the folder structure of GRASS 7.0.1.

I don't know if this has been corrected since then, and whether this might
be your problem. I am forwarding this thread also for QGIS mailing list.

Best regards,
Pedro Venâncio




2015-10-27 13:23 GMT+00:00 Veronica Andreo :

> Hi devs,
>
> me again, sorry...
>
> So, this comes from the previous email, but it is a different issue...
>
> I also got qgis stable (2.12) from osgeo4w 32bits installer and there
> seems to be NO grass plugin installed nor available in the plugin list.
>
> There's also NO grass tools in Processing and I have the latest version
> avilable. I guess I missed selecting some other things in the installation
> process, but don't know what.
>
> Any instruction is welcome! :)
>
> Cheers,
> Vero
>
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Re: [GRASS-dev] no grass plugin in qgis installed from osgeo4w

[Pedro Venâncio]

Veronica,


Yes! Thanks much, Moritz! Was searching in the wrong place (hihihi). This
> solved the issue with using grass tools through Processing.
>
> Still grass plugin missing.
>
>
Can you please install GRASS 7.0.1-1 instead of 7.0.2RC1-1?

To do so, go to OSGeo4W -> Advanced Install -> Desktop

You should have something like

7.0.2RC1-1   Skip   ...  grass: GRAS GIS - stable release

Please, click in "Skip" and you should get 7.0.1-1. Click Next, install
this version and then try again GRASS plugin in QGIS (search for GRASS 7 in
Plugins -> Manage and Install Plugins).

As Moritz said, Processing GRASS is independent from GRASS Plugin.

Thanks,
Pedro
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Re: [GRASS-dev] no grass plugin in qgis installed from osgeo4w

[Veronica Andreo]

Hi Pedro


> Can you please install GRASS 7.0.1-1 instead of 7.0.2RC1-1?
>
> To do so, go to OSGeo4W -> Advanced Install -> Desktop
>
> You should have something like
>
> 7.0.2RC1-1   Skip   ...  grass: GRAS GIS - stable release
>
> Please, click in "Skip" and you should get 7.0.1-1. Click Next, install
> this version and then try again GRASS plugin in QGIS (search for GRASS 7 in
> Plugins -> Manage and Install Plugins).
>

I did that, and got GRASS 7.0.1-1...
Same issue, grass plugin still missing in the list


> As Moritz said, Processing GRASS is independent from GRASS Plugin.
>
> Yes, this works fine with both 7.0.1-1 and 7.0.2RC1-1

Thanks to you
Vero
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Re: [GRASS-dev] no grass plugin in qgis installed from osgeo4w

[Blumentrath, Stefan]

Hei Vero,

Did you go through the advanced install in OSGeo4W? There you should have the 
“qgis-grass-plugin7” (and probably also necessary “qgis-grass-plugin-common”) 
available.

For the shell issue you can have a look here:
https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/grass-dev/2014-October/071294.html

Is OSGeoLive DVD/USB an alternative for you? That may help to avoid a lot of 
trouble (esp. when prepared and provided by you), caused e.g. by user names 
with non-ascii characters, missing-dlls access rights…

Cheers
Stefan


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Subject: [GRASS-dev] no grass plugin in qgis installed from osgeo4w

Hi devs,

me again, sorry...

So, this comes from the previous email, but it is a different issue...

I also got qgis stable (2.12) from osgeo4w 32bits installer and there seems to 
be NO grass plugin installed nor available in the plugin list.

There's also NO grass tools in Processing and I have the latest version 
avilable. I guess I missed selecting some other things in the installation 
process, but don't know what.

Any instruction is welcome! :)

Cheers,
Vero
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