[GreenYouth] Re: [foil] Fwd: U.S. Created Al Qaeda -- Hillary Clinton
U.S created Al Qaeda--Fox News )9 May 2014 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsZg_maF0ow On 16 September 2014 15:54, Jayaprakash Nd jayp...@gmail.com wrote: Kindly listen to the video properly. The following is what Hillary Clinton states in no uncertain terms: *Now you look back; the people we are fighting today we were supporting in the fight against the Soviets.* There is more from Hillary Clinton: *Let us remember here, the people we are fighting today we funded twenty years ago You know we said, it is a pretty good idea Let us deal with the ISI and the Pakistan military and let us go and recruit these Mujaheddin and that's great and let us get some to come from Saudi Arabia and other places importing their Wahhabi brand of Islam so that we can go and beat the Soviet Union But let us be careful about what we sow because we will harvest * On 16 September 2014 09:26, raja swamy raja.sw...@gmail.com wrote: Clinton refers to the Mujahideen who were fighting the Soviet occupation. She does *not* refer to Al Qaida at all. Evidence of US involvement wrt AQ, ISIS, various fanatical, fascistic formations ad nauseum across the planet is not lacking; however this video is hardly the explosive evidence the opening caption makes it out to be. raja.. On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 9:29 PM, Jayaprakash Nd jayp...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Sukla/Feroze, The following video that Ram Puniyani had posted on 05 Sept. 2014 should clear all confusion regarding the problem under discussion. JP *While one has burnt midnight oil to unravel the trajectory of US policy through books with solid scholarship, the job of understanding this has become easy with a small video clip of Hillary Clinton. Very smartly and briskly she tells us that it was US which created Al Qaeda by indoctrinating the Muslim youth. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLhRKj6633w http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLhRKj6633w). A peep into the history of the region tells us that this indoctrination was done by using the distorted version of Islam, Wahabbism to be more precise.* *ISIS, Oil Politics and Peaking of Islamophobia * *Ram Puniyani* ___ Foil-l mailing list foi...@insaf.net http://insaf.net/mailman/listinfo/foil-l_insaf.net -- Visiting Assistant Professor Department of Anthropology University of Arkansas Fayetteville, AR 72701 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Green Youth Movement group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to greenyouth+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to greenyouth@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/greenyouth. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[GreenYouth] Re: [foil] Fwd: U.S. Created Al Qaeda -- Hillary Clinton
This fact is not known to Sukla Sen. Fox News has reproduced the statements that Hillary Clinton had stated in 2012. On 16 September 2014 16:49, Daya Varma, Dr. daya.va...@mcgill.ca wrote: This fact is well known. But why is Hillary saying it now? Daya From: Foil-l [foil-l-boun...@insaf.net] on behalf of Jayaprakash Nd [ jayp...@gmail.com] Sent: September 16, 2014 6:34 AM To: raja swamy Cc: greenyouth; FOIL Subject: Re: [foil] Fwd: U.S. Created Al Qaeda -- Hillary Clinton U.S created Al Qaeda--Fox News )9 May 2014 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsZg_maF0ow On 16 September 2014 15:54, Jayaprakash Nd jayp...@gmail.com wrote: Kindly listen to the video properly. The following is what Hillary Clinton states in no uncertain terms: *Now you look back; the people we are fighting today we were supporting in the fight against the Soviets.* There is more from Hillary Clinton: *Let us remember here, the people we are fighting today we funded twenty years ago You know we said, it is a pretty good idea Let us deal with the ISI and the Pakistan military and let us go and recruit these Mujaheddin and that's great and let us get some to come from Saudi Arabia and other places importing their Wahhabi brand of Islam so that we can go and beat the Soviet Union But let us be careful about what we sow because we will harvest * On 16 September 2014 09:26, raja swamy raja.sw...@gmail.com wrote: Clinton refers to the Mujahideen who were fighting the Soviet occupation. She does *not* refer to Al Qaida at all. Evidence of US involvement wrt AQ, ISIS, various fanatical, fascistic formations ad nauseum across the planet is not lacking; however this video is hardly the explosive evidence the opening caption makes it out to be. raja.. On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 9:29 PM, Jayaprakash Nd jayp...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Sukla/Feroze, The following video that Ram Puniyani had posted on 05 Sept. 2014 should clear all confusion regarding the problem under discussion. JP *While one has burnt midnight oil to unravel the trajectory of US policy through books with solid scholarship, the job of understanding this has become easy with a small video clip of Hillary Clinton. Very smartly and briskly she tells us that it was US which created Al Qaeda by indoctrinating the Muslim youth. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLhRKj6633w http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLhRKj6633w). A peep into the history of the region tells us that this indoctrination was done by using the distorted version of Islam, Wahabbism to be more precise.* *ISIS, Oil Politics and Peaking of Islamophobia * *Ram Puniyani* ___ Foil-l mailing list foi...@insaf.net http://insaf.net/mailman/listinfo/foil-l_insaf.net -- Visiting Assistant Professor Department of Anthropology University of Arkansas Fayetteville, AR 72701 ___ Foil-l mailing list foi...@insaf.net http://insaf.net/mailman/listinfo/foil-l_insaf.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Green Youth Movement group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to greenyouth+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to greenyouth@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/greenyouth. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [GreenYouth] Re: [foil] Fwd: U.S. Created Al Qaeda -- Hillary Clinton
That the US had actively promoted the AQ and its chieftain Osama bin Laden to fight Soviet occupation (?) of Afghanistan is also just no news as much as the fact that Osama was killed by the US armed forces (Navy SEALs) by carrying out a surprise, and obviously illegal, air raid deep within Pakistani territory where he was living incognito, presumably under the protection of an important segment of the Pakistani state, being labelled as the mastermind of the 9/11. Here is a fairly detailed, plausible, account of bin Laden: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osama_bin_Laden#Mujahideen_in_Afghanistan. Sukla On 16/09/2014, Jayaprakash Nd jayp...@gmail.com wrote: Kindly listen to the video properly. The following is what Hillary Clinton states in no uncertain terms: *Now you look back; the people we are fighting today we were supporting in the fight against the Soviets.* There is more from Hillary Clinton: *Let us remember here, the people we are fighting today we funded twenty years ago You know we said, it is a pretty good idea Let us deal with the ISI and the Pakistan military and let us go and recruit these Mujaheddin and that's great and let us get some to come from Saudi Arabia and other places importing their Wahhabi brand of Islam so that we can go and beat the Soviet Union But let us be careful about what we sow because we will harvest * On 16 September 2014 09:26, raja swamy raja.sw...@gmail.com wrote: Clinton refers to the Mujahideen who were fighting the Soviet occupation. She does *not* refer to Al Qaida at all. Evidence of US involvement wrt AQ, ISIS, various fanatical, fascistic formations ad nauseum across the planet is not lacking; however this video is hardly the explosive evidence the opening caption makes it out to be. raja.. On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 9:29 PM, Jayaprakash Nd jayp...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Sukla/Feroze, The following video that Ram Puniyani had posted on 05 Sept. 2014 should clear all confusion regarding the problem under discussion. JP *While one has burnt midnight oil to unravel the trajectory of US policy through books with solid scholarship, the job of understanding this has become easy with a small video clip of Hillary Clinton. Very smartly and briskly she tells us that it was US which created Al Qaeda by indoctrinating the Muslim youth. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLhRKj6633w http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLhRKj6633w). A peep into the history of the region tells us that this indoctrination was done by using the distorted version of Islam, Wahabbism to be more precise.* *ISIS, Oil Politics and Peaking of Islamophobia * *Ram Puniyani* ___ Foil-l mailing list foi...@insaf.net http://insaf.net/mailman/listinfo/foil-l_insaf.net -- Visiting Assistant Professor Department of Anthropology University of Arkansas Fayetteville, AR 72701 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Green Youth Movement group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to greenyouth+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to greenyouth@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/greenyouth. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Peace Is Doable -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Green Youth Movement group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to greenyouth+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to greenyouth@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/greenyouth. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [GreenYouth] Re: [foil] Fwd: U.S. Created Al Qaeda -- Hillary Clinton
That is called the policy of hunting with the hound and running with the hare. First you create a monster to do your dirty work against humanity; then you appear as the saviour to save humanity from the monster! A perfect strategy to serve the interests of the military-industrial-complex! On 16 September 2014 18:07, Sukla Sen sukla@gmail.com wrote: That the US had actively promoted the AQ and its chieftain Osama bin Laden to fight Soviet occupation (?) of Afghanistan is also just no news as much as the fact that Osama was killed by the US armed forces (Navy SEALs) by carrying out a surprise, and obviously illegal, air raid deep within Pakistani territory where he was living incognito, presumably under the protection of an important segment of the Pakistani state, being labelled as the mastermind of the 9/11. Here is a fairly detailed, plausible, account of bin Laden: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osama_bin_Laden#Mujahideen_in_Afghanistan. Sukla On 16/09/2014, Jayaprakash Nd jayp...@gmail.com wrote: Kindly listen to the video properly. The following is what Hillary Clinton states in no uncertain terms: *Now you look back; the people we are fighting today we were supporting in the fight against the Soviets.* There is more from Hillary Clinton: *Let us remember here, the people we are fighting today we funded twenty years ago You know we said, it is a pretty good idea Let us deal with the ISI and the Pakistan military and let us go and recruit these Mujaheddin and that's great and let us get some to come from Saudi Arabia and other places importing their Wahhabi brand of Islam so that we can go and beat the Soviet Union But let us be careful about what we sow because we will harvest * On 16 September 2014 09:26, raja swamy raja.sw...@gmail.com wrote: Clinton refers to the Mujahideen who were fighting the Soviet occupation. She does *not* refer to Al Qaida at all. Evidence of US involvement wrt AQ, ISIS, various fanatical, fascistic formations ad nauseum across the planet is not lacking; however this video is hardly the explosive evidence the opening caption makes it out to be. raja.. On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 9:29 PM, Jayaprakash Nd jayp...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Sukla/Feroze, The following video that Ram Puniyani had posted on 05 Sept. 2014 should clear all confusion regarding the problem under discussion. JP *While one has burnt midnight oil to unravel the trajectory of US policy through books with solid scholarship, the job of understanding this has become easy with a small video clip of Hillary Clinton. Very smartly and briskly she tells us that it was US which created Al Qaeda by indoctrinating the Muslim youth. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLhRKj6633w http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLhRKj6633w). A peep into the history of the region tells us that this indoctrination was done by using the distorted version of Islam, Wahabbism to be more precise.* *ISIS, Oil Politics and Peaking of Islamophobia * *Ram Puniyani* ___ Foil-l mailing list foi...@insaf.net http://insaf.net/mailman/listinfo/foil-l_insaf.net -- Visiting Assistant Professor Department of Anthropology University of Arkansas Fayetteville, AR 72701 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Green Youth Movement group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to greenyouth+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to greenyouth@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/greenyouth. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Peace Is Doable -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Green Youth Movement group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to greenyouth+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to greenyouth@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/greenyouth. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Green Youth Movement group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to greenyouth+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to greenyouth@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/greenyouth. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [GreenYouth] Re: [foil] Fwd: U.S. Created Al Qaeda -- Hillary Clinton
While one may of course differ on certain nuances, I don't see scope for any major disagreement here. Sukla On 16/09/2014, Jayaprakash Nd jayp...@gmail.com wrote: That is called the policy of hunting with the hound and running with the hare. First you create a monster to do your dirty work against humanity; then you appear as the saviour to save humanity from the monster! A perfect strategy to serve the interests of the military-industrial-complex! On 16 September 2014 18:07, Sukla Sen sukla@gmail.com wrote: That the US had actively promoted the AQ and its chieftain Osama bin Laden to fight Soviet occupation (?) of Afghanistan is also just no news as much as the fact that Osama was killed by the US armed forces (Navy SEALs) by carrying out a surprise, and obviously illegal, air raid deep within Pakistani territory where he was living incognito, presumably under the protection of an important segment of the Pakistani state, being labelled as the mastermind of the 9/11. Here is a fairly detailed, plausible, account of bin Laden: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osama_bin_Laden#Mujahideen_in_Afghanistan. Sukla On 16/09/2014, Jayaprakash Nd jayp...@gmail.com wrote: Kindly listen to the video properly. The following is what Hillary Clinton states in no uncertain terms: *Now you look back; the people we are fighting today we were supporting in the fight against the Soviets.* There is more from Hillary Clinton: *Let us remember here, the people we are fighting today we funded twenty years ago You know we said, it is a pretty good idea Let us deal with the ISI and the Pakistan military and let us go and recruit these Mujaheddin and that's great and let us get some to come from Saudi Arabia and other places importing their Wahhabi brand of Islam so that we can go and beat the Soviet Union But let us be careful about what we sow because we will harvest * On 16 September 2014 09:26, raja swamy raja.sw...@gmail.com wrote: Clinton refers to the Mujahideen who were fighting the Soviet occupation. She does *not* refer to Al Qaida at all. Evidence of US involvement wrt AQ, ISIS, various fanatical, fascistic formations ad nauseum across the planet is not lacking; however this video is hardly the explosive evidence the opening caption makes it out to be. raja.. On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 9:29 PM, Jayaprakash Nd jayp...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Sukla/Feroze, The following video that Ram Puniyani had posted on 05 Sept. 2014 should clear all confusion regarding the problem under discussion. JP *While one has burnt midnight oil to unravel the trajectory of US policy through books with solid scholarship, the job of understanding this has become easy with a small video clip of Hillary Clinton. Very smartly and briskly she tells us that it was US which created Al Qaeda by indoctrinating the Muslim youth. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLhRKj6633w http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLhRKj6633w). A peep into the history of the region tells us that this indoctrination was done by using the distorted version of Islam, Wahabbism to be more precise.* *ISIS, Oil Politics and Peaking of Islamophobia * *Ram Puniyani* ___ Foil-l mailing list foi...@insaf.net http://insaf.net/mailman/listinfo/foil-l_insaf.net -- Visiting Assistant Professor Department of Anthropology University of Arkansas Fayetteville, AR 72701 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Green Youth Movement group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to greenyouth+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to greenyouth@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/greenyouth. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Peace Is Doable -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Green Youth Movement group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to greenyouth+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to greenyouth@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/greenyouth. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Green Youth Movement group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to greenyouth+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to greenyouth@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/greenyouth. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Peace Is Doable -- You received this message because you are
