Re: [gmx-users] Coul-SR: positive value for interating group

2015-05-27 Thread Mark Abraham
Hi,

Indeed. Many force fields in common use are additive, but this is not the
same as decomposable!

Mark

On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 2:52 PM André Farias de Moura mo...@ufscar.br
wrote:

 Raja,
 just guessing, based on the few informations you posted: if the local
 dipole moments of these groups are parallel to each other, interaction is
 expected to be repulsive, even though they have opposite charges. Also mind
 that overall structure in such complex systems depends on many different
 interactions, so these two groups are not necessarily close because they
 have interacted favorably, but because the overall interactions within the
 whole system eventually led these groups to approach each other, just like
 groups bearing the same charge pack together in micelles, membranes and
 films, with large repulsive interactions between the charged heads
 (stabilization comes from ionic and dipolar screening along with
 hydrophobic interactions).
 best
 Andre

 On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 3:09 AM, Raj D gromacs.fo...@gmail.com wrote:

  Dear Users,
  I have just completed simulation of a ligand and enzyme complex and
  when I visualized the  trajectory , I have noted an important close
  contact say about (7 to 10 A distances) between an active site residue
  Arg and the carboxylate group of the ligand through out the simulation
  time of 10ns. I wanted to quantify it using mdrun -rerun option and
  evaluated energy (COUL-SR) value of the polor atoms of the Arg and
  carboxylate as energygroup in my mdp file , and surprisingly I found
  the values are big positive numbers whereas I expected a negative
  values. Why the contradiction happens , trajectory showed attraction
  and energy is dispersion ?
 
  I just pasted few lines of the energy.xvg
  @ s0 legend Coul-SR:Arg262_NH-CPG_COOH
  @ s1 legend Coul-14:Arg262_NH-CPG_COOH
  0.005.6473150.00
  2.005.3674610.00
  4.006.1094620.00
  6.000.9768090.00
  8.004.3068200.00
 10.002.9266590.00
 12.002.5676320.00
 14.001.9345790.00
 16.003.8746910.00
 18.003.1305550.00
 20.001.8047900.00
 
  expecting you experts opinion on this.
 
  Regards,
  Raja
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Re: [gmx-users] Coul-SR: positive value for interating group

2015-05-27 Thread André Farias de Moura
Raja,
just guessing, based on the few informations you posted: if the local
dipole moments of these groups are parallel to each other, interaction is
expected to be repulsive, even though they have opposite charges. Also mind
that overall structure in such complex systems depends on many different
interactions, so these two groups are not necessarily close because they
have interacted favorably, but because the overall interactions within the
whole system eventually led these groups to approach each other, just like
groups bearing the same charge pack together in micelles, membranes and
films, with large repulsive interactions between the charged heads
(stabilization comes from ionic and dipolar screening along with
hydrophobic interactions).
best
Andre

On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 3:09 AM, Raj D gromacs.fo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear Users,
 I have just completed simulation of a ligand and enzyme complex and
 when I visualized the  trajectory , I have noted an important close
 contact say about (7 to 10 A distances) between an active site residue
 Arg and the carboxylate group of the ligand through out the simulation
 time of 10ns. I wanted to quantify it using mdrun -rerun option and
 evaluated energy (COUL-SR) value of the polor atoms of the Arg and
 carboxylate as energygroup in my mdp file , and surprisingly I found
 the values are big positive numbers whereas I expected a negative
 values. Why the contradiction happens , trajectory showed attraction
 and energy is dispersion ?

 I just pasted few lines of the energy.xvg
 @ s0 legend Coul-SR:Arg262_NH-CPG_COOH
 @ s1 legend Coul-14:Arg262_NH-CPG_COOH
 0.005.6473150.00
 2.005.3674610.00
 4.006.1094620.00
 6.000.9768090.00
 8.004.3068200.00
10.002.9266590.00
12.002.5676320.00
14.001.9345790.00
16.003.8746910.00
18.003.1305550.00
20.001.8047900.00

 expecting you experts opinion on this.

 Regards,
 Raja
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[gmx-users] Building topologies manually

2015-05-27 Thread Vy Phan
Dear Gromacs Users,

I want to simulate the protein s-glutathionylation. The problem is how to
build the topologies for glutathione ([image: $\gamma$]-Glu-Cys-Gly).

Could someone give me some suggestion and experiences?

Thank in advance
Tuong Vy
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[gmx-users] gromos53a6_lipid.ff/forcefield.itp not found

2015-05-27 Thread Poncho Arvayo Zatarain


From: poncho_8...@hotmail.com
To: gromacs.org_gmx-users@maillist.sys.kth.se
Subject: gromos53a6_lipid.ff/forcefield.itp not found
Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 14:50:27 -0300




Hello i'm doing a simulation and when i use grompp grompp -f dppc128.mdp -c 
dppc128_40ns.pdb -p dppc128.top -o dppc128_1.tpr i have this: Fatal error:
Topology include file gromos53a6_lipid.ff/forcefield.itp not found. What 
should i include in my topolofy files?

And i have 2 notes: NOTE 1 [file dppc128.mdp, line 34]:
  dppc128.mdp did not specify a value for the .mdp option cutoff-scheme.
  Probably it was first intended for use with GROMACS before 4.6. In 4.6,
  the Verlet scheme was introduced, but the group scheme was still the
  default. The default is now the Verlet scheme, so you will observe
  different behaviour. Should i inlude Cutoff-scheme verlet in my mdp file?

NOTE 2 [file dppc128.mdp]:
  The Berendsen thermostat does not generate the correct kinetic energy
  distribution. You might want to consider using the V-rescale thermostat. 
Should i include Berendsen at my Tcouple option on mdp file?

  
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Re: [gmx-users] Water organic solvents mixtures: Which force field to use and best practice to derive parameters

2015-05-27 Thread Ebert Maximilian
I read more about organic solvents in MD and came to the conclusion that OPLS 
is indeed the best way to go. Since I couldn’t really find an accessible 
tutorial how to derive topology files for GROMACS and the FF OPLS/AA I will 
document my progress here. Maybe this is of help for somebody in the future. In 
addition, I would like to ask the community to help me in case you see problems 
with my approach. Once I have a good protocol I will write a tutorial and make 
it available online.

To validate my approach I am trying to create a parameter set for acetone which 
I found on  http://virtualchemistry.org. To generate the OPLS topology I used a 
tool suggested by many people called mktop in version 2.2.1. I downloaded the 
ideal geometry of acetone from Ligand Expo and generated a GROMACS topology 
file using the following command:

mktop_2.2.1.pl -i ACN_ideal.pdb -o acn_topology.top -ff opls -conect yes

In order to get the charges for this organic molecule I downloaded the most 
recent amber tools and compiled it. I used the AM1-BCC charge model to generate 
charges for acetone using the following instructions in antechamber:

antechamber -i ACN_ideal.pdb -fi pdb -o acn.mol2 -fo mol2 -c bcc -s 2

I opened the resulting mol2 file in Chimera to map the atoms to the atoms in my 
.top file. The charges calculated by antechamber look reasonable and are 
comparable to the validated OPLS topology from virtual chemistry:

virtual chemistry charges

[ atoms ]
;   nr   type  resnr residue  atom   cgnr charge   mass  typeB
chargeB  massB
 1  opls_280 1   LIG C 1  0.4712.011
 2  opls_135 1   LIG C 2 -0.1812.011
 3  opls_135 1   LIG C 3 -0.1812.011
 4  opls_281 1   LIG O 4 -0.47   15.9994
 5  opls_282 1   LIG H 5  0.06 1.008
 6  opls_282 1   LIG H 6  0.06 1.008
 7  opls_282 1   LIG H 7  0.06 1.008
 8  opls_282 1   LIG H 8  0.06 1.008
 9  opls_282 1   LIG H 9  0.06 1.008
10  opls_282 1   LIG H10  0.06 1.008


antechamber AM1-BCC derived

[ atoms ]
;   nr   type  resnr residue  atom   cgnr charge   mass  typeB
chargeB  massB
1  opls_280   1   ACN  C110.56 12.011
2  opls_281   1   ACN  O11   -0.52 15.9994
3  opls_135   1   ACN  C22   -0.20 12.011
4  opls_135   1   ACN  C33   -0.20 12.011
5  opls_282   1   ACN  H120.06 1.008
6  opls_282   1   ACN  H220.06 1.008
7  opls_282   1   ACN  H320.06 1.008
8  opls_282   1   ACN  H430.06 1.008
9  opls_282   1   ACN  H530.06 1.008
   10  opls_282   1   ACN  H630.06 1.008

The atom types were guessed correctly by mktop and also the charge groups make 
sense I think. So far so good.

I realize some differences between the two topologies. First the mktop topology 
also includes FF constants for the different bonds and angles:

[ bonds ]
1 2 1   0.121  476976.0
1 3 1   0.151  265265.6
1 4 1   0.151  265265.6
3 5 1   0.109  284512.0
3 6 1   0.109  284512.0
3 7 1   0.109  284512.0
4 8 1   0.109  284512.0
4 9 1   0.109  284512.0
4 10 1   0.109  284512.0


[ angles ]
1 3 5 1  109.460  292.880
1 3 6 1  109.473  292.880
1 3 7 1  109.484  292.880
1 4 8 1  109.466  292.880
1 4 9 1  109.435  292.880
1 4 10 1  109.477  292.880
2 1 3 1  119.985  669.440
2 1 4 1  119.985  669.440
3 1 4 1  120.029  585.760
5 3 6 1  109.445  276.144
5 3 7 1  109.464  276.144
6 3 7 1  109.502  276.144
8 4 9 1  109.483  276.144
8 4 10 1  109.504  276.144
9 4 10 1  109.462  276.144

compared to the virtual chemistry file:

[ bonds ]
;  aiaj functc0c1c2c3
1 2 1
1 3 1
1 4 1
2 5 1
2 6 1
2 7 1
3 8 1
3 9 1
310 1

[ angles ]
;  aiajak functc0c1c2c3
2 1 3 1
2 1 4 1
3 1 4 1
1 2 5 1
1 2 6 1
1 2 7 1
5 2 6 1
5 2 7 1
6 2 7 1
1 3 8 1
1 3 9 1
1 310 1
8 3 9 1
8 310 1
9 310 1


Should I trust the mktop parameters or delete them? To look if my parameters 
are correct I did a short MD with a box containing only acetone based on the 
two topologies. The MD is still running but I wanted to compare the 

[gmx-users] Water organic solvents mixtures: Which force field to use and best practice to derive parameters

2015-05-27 Thread Ebert Maximilian
Hi there,

I am about to setup a water:organic solvent mixture with a protein. I found 
many organic molecules on http://virtualchemistry.org with definitions for the 
OPLS FF. However, some are missing so I would need to derive the parameters 
myself. Before going into more details I was wondering if OPLS is to be 
preferred if organic solvent is present or can AMBER also be used? It seems 
that using ACPYPE with AMBER is much more accessible than using any other 
method to derive the parameters for organic molecules.

Thanks for your advice.
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Re: [gmx-users] Coul-SR: positive value for interating group

2015-05-27 Thread Raj D
Thank you once again Dr Andre... So to identify the true interaction
partner for the ligand's Carboxlate in simulation ...may I have to define
the energy group as all amino acids of protein vs the carboxlate group of
the ligand or any easy way out ... Since from my trajectory visualization
it seemed the Arg 262 is stabilizing the carboxylate of the ligand but the
electrostatic interaction analysis disproved it .
Regards,
Raja
On May 27, 2015 8:25 PM, André Farias de Moura mo...@ufscar.br wrote:

 I agree with Mark: pairwise additive potentials are computationally
 convenient, but nature does not work like that.

 based on your email, it is seems that you are looking for an
 energy/enthalpy term explaining some structural pattern, but in most cases
 entropy role is also important and in some case might even be the leading
 contribution. That being said, you should probably consider some sort of
 PMF instead of looking for specific mechanical interactions.

 Andre

 On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 10:11 AM, Mark Abraham mark.j.abra...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Hi,
 
  Indeed. Many force fields in common use are additive, but this is not the
  same as decomposable!
 
  Mark
 
  On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 2:52 PM André Farias de Moura mo...@ufscar.br
  wrote:
 
   Raja,
   just guessing, based on the few informations you posted: if the local
   dipole moments of these groups are parallel to each other, interaction
 is
   expected to be repulsive, even though they have opposite charges. Also
  mind
   that overall structure in such complex systems depends on many
 different
   interactions, so these two groups are not necessarily close because
 they
   have interacted favorably, but because the overall interactions within
  the
   whole system eventually led these groups to approach each other, just
  like
   groups bearing the same charge pack together in micelles, membranes and
   films, with large repulsive interactions between the charged heads
   (stabilization comes from ionic and dipolar screening along with
   hydrophobic interactions).
   best
   Andre
  
   On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 3:09 AM, Raj D gromacs.fo...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  
Dear Users,
I have just completed simulation of a ligand and enzyme complex and
when I visualized the  trajectory , I have noted an important close
contact say about (7 to 10 A distances) between an active site
 residue
Arg and the carboxylate group of the ligand through out the
 simulation
time of 10ns. I wanted to quantify it using mdrun -rerun option and
evaluated energy (COUL-SR) value of the polor atoms of the Arg and
carboxylate as energygroup in my mdp file , and surprisingly I found
the values are big positive numbers whereas I expected a negative
values. Why the contradiction happens , trajectory showed attraction
and energy is dispersion ?
   
I just pasted few lines of the energy.xvg
@ s0 legend Coul-SR:Arg262_NH-CPG_COOH
@ s1 legend Coul-14:Arg262_NH-CPG_COOH
0.005.6473150.00
2.005.3674610.00
4.006.1094620.00
6.000.9768090.00
8.004.3068200.00
   10.002.9266590.00
   12.002.5676320.00
   14.001.9345790.00
   16.003.8746910.00
   18.003.1305550.00
   20.001.8047900.00
   
expecting you experts opinion on this.
   
Regards,
Raja
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[gmx-users] make_ndx question

2015-05-27 Thread Giannis Gl
Dear all,

I am very amateur in GROMACS, so please forgive my silly question.
I want to group the following atoms

ATOM  2285b  C1  LIG X   6  32.880  59.958 110.850  0.00
0.00
ATOM  2285c  CL1 LIG X  6  31.972  61.400 110.520  0.00
0.00
ATOM  2285d  N1  LIG X   6  32.318  58.744 110.532  0.00
0.00
ATOM  2285e  C2  LIG X   6  33.272  57.852 110.816  0.00
0.00
ATOM  2285f  N2  LIG X6  34.376  58.450 111.368  0.00
0.00
ATOM  22860  C3  LIG X   6  34.138  59.800 111.370  0.00
0.00
ATOM  22861  C4  LIG X   6  35.550  57.768 111.896  0.00
0.00
ATOM  22862  H1  LIG X   6  35.550  57.880 112.984  0.00
0.00
ATOM  22863  H2  LIG X   6  35.460  56.692 111.730  0.00
0.00
ATOM  22864  C5  LIG X   6  34.992  60.962 111.784  0.00
0.00
ATOM  22865  H3  LIG X   6  35.626  61.290 110.956  0.00
0.00
ATOM  22866  H4  LIG X   6  34.380  61.822 112.070  0.00
0.00
ATOM  22867  O1  LIG X   6  35.840  60.652 112.888  0.00
0.00
ATOM  22868  H5  LIG X   6  36.496  60.016 112.550  0.00
0.00
ATOM  22869  C6  LIG X   6  33.084  56.380 110.604  0.00
0.00
ATOM  2286a  H6  LIG X   6  33.950  55.966 110.086  0.00
0.00
ATOM  2286b  H7  LIG X   6  33.040  55.868 111.568  0.00
0.00
ATOM  2286c  C7  LIG X   6  31.828  56.028 109.792  0.00
0.00
ATOM  2286d  H8  LIG X   6  30.938  56.388 110.312  0.00
0.00
ATOM  2286e  H9  LIG X   6  31.860  56.538 108.828  0.00
0.00
ATOM  2286f  C8  LIG X6  31.688  54.518 109.558  0.00  0.00

...

but the command,

a 2285b-2286f

or the command,

a 2285b 2285c 2285d ... 2286f

doesn't recognize atoms' numbers followed by a character

Found 0 atoms with names 2285B 2285C

Is there any other way that I could select these atoms?
I know I could try a dynamic selection (g_select), but unfortunately, my
pdb file contains 10 ligands and all of them have the same resname. Thus,
there is no feature besides the atom
that I could use to destinguish them. Even the coordinates are useless;
there are ligands with
almost the same x-coordinate but different y.
Thanking you in advance!
I hope I made clear my problem and didn't confuse you.
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Re: [gmx-users] Coul-SR: positive value for interating group

2015-05-27 Thread Raj D
Thank you Dr Andre and Dr Mark for your valuable comments.
Regards,
Raja
On May 27, 2015 6:41 PM, Mark Abraham mark.j.abra...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 Indeed. Many force fields in common use are additive, but this is not the
 same as decomposable!

 Mark

 On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 2:52 PM André Farias de Moura mo...@ufscar.br
 wrote:

  Raja,
  just guessing, based on the few informations you posted: if the local
  dipole moments of these groups are parallel to each other, interaction is
  expected to be repulsive, even though they have opposite charges. Also
 mind
  that overall structure in such complex systems depends on many different
  interactions, so these two groups are not necessarily close because they
  have interacted favorably, but because the overall interactions within
 the
  whole system eventually led these groups to approach each other, just
 like
  groups bearing the same charge pack together in micelles, membranes and
  films, with large repulsive interactions between the charged heads
  (stabilization comes from ionic and dipolar screening along with
  hydrophobic interactions).
  best
  Andre
 
  On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 3:09 AM, Raj D gromacs.fo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   Dear Users,
   I have just completed simulation of a ligand and enzyme complex and
   when I visualized the  trajectory , I have noted an important close
   contact say about (7 to 10 A distances) between an active site residue
   Arg and the carboxylate group of the ligand through out the simulation
   time of 10ns. I wanted to quantify it using mdrun -rerun option and
   evaluated energy (COUL-SR) value of the polor atoms of the Arg and
   carboxylate as energygroup in my mdp file , and surprisingly I found
   the values are big positive numbers whereas I expected a negative
   values. Why the contradiction happens , trajectory showed attraction
   and energy is dispersion ?
  
   I just pasted few lines of the energy.xvg
   @ s0 legend Coul-SR:Arg262_NH-CPG_COOH
   @ s1 legend Coul-14:Arg262_NH-CPG_COOH
   0.005.6473150.00
   2.005.3674610.00
   4.006.1094620.00
   6.000.9768090.00
   8.004.3068200.00
  10.002.9266590.00
  12.002.5676320.00
  14.001.9345790.00
  16.003.8746910.00
  18.003.1305550.00
  20.001.8047900.00
  
   expecting you experts opinion on this.
  
   Regards,
   Raja
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Re: [gmx-users] Sigma and Epsilon values for nonbonded interactions with Fe in 2Fe2S cluster

2015-05-27 Thread Raj D
Hi ,
I am currently doing simulation of Fe dependent enzyme using Amber ff and I
too had problem and copied sigma and Epsilon from OPLS ff and so for my
simulation goes on fine.
Regards,
Raja
On May 27, 2015 8:42 PM, Jan Riehm jri...@bioinformatik.uni-saarland.de
wrote:

 Dear users,

 I am using the amber99sb-ildn.ff force field to simulate an adrenodoxin
 molecule in a water box. In it there is a 2Fe2S cluster which is covalently
 bound to four surrounding cysteines (two cysteines to each Fe atom). After
 the first equilibration step (nvt) one of the cysteines clashes or overlaps
 with the farther apart Fe atom (which is not covalently bound). I've
 checked for the nonbonded interaction values in the ffnonbonded.itp and the
 values (sigma and epsilon) for Fe are zero in the [atomtypes]-directive.

 I am pretty new to this MD simulation stuff and want to know how to derive
 the values for epsilon and sigma. Or can I look them up anywhere? Any hint
 to a tutorial would be very helpful!

 Thank you very much and best regards,

 Jan
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Re: [gmx-users] Coul-SR: positive value for interating group

2015-05-27 Thread André Farias de Moura
I agree with Mark: pairwise additive potentials are computationally
convenient, but nature does not work like that.

based on your email, it is seems that you are looking for an
energy/enthalpy term explaining some structural pattern, but in most cases
entropy role is also important and in some case might even be the leading
contribution. That being said, you should probably consider some sort of
PMF instead of looking for specific mechanical interactions.

Andre

On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 10:11 AM, Mark Abraham mark.j.abra...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hi,

 Indeed. Many force fields in common use are additive, but this is not the
 same as decomposable!

 Mark

 On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 2:52 PM André Farias de Moura mo...@ufscar.br
 wrote:

  Raja,
  just guessing, based on the few informations you posted: if the local
  dipole moments of these groups are parallel to each other, interaction is
  expected to be repulsive, even though they have opposite charges. Also
 mind
  that overall structure in such complex systems depends on many different
  interactions, so these two groups are not necessarily close because they
  have interacted favorably, but because the overall interactions within
 the
  whole system eventually led these groups to approach each other, just
 like
  groups bearing the same charge pack together in micelles, membranes and
  films, with large repulsive interactions between the charged heads
  (stabilization comes from ionic and dipolar screening along with
  hydrophobic interactions).
  best
  Andre
 
  On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 3:09 AM, Raj D gromacs.fo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   Dear Users,
   I have just completed simulation of a ligand and enzyme complex and
   when I visualized the  trajectory , I have noted an important close
   contact say about (7 to 10 A distances) between an active site residue
   Arg and the carboxylate group of the ligand through out the simulation
   time of 10ns. I wanted to quantify it using mdrun -rerun option and
   evaluated energy (COUL-SR) value of the polor atoms of the Arg and
   carboxylate as energygroup in my mdp file , and surprisingly I found
   the values are big positive numbers whereas I expected a negative
   values. Why the contradiction happens , trajectory showed attraction
   and energy is dispersion ?
  
   I just pasted few lines of the energy.xvg
   @ s0 legend Coul-SR:Arg262_NH-CPG_COOH
   @ s1 legend Coul-14:Arg262_NH-CPG_COOH
   0.005.6473150.00
   2.005.3674610.00
   4.006.1094620.00
   6.000.9768090.00
   8.004.3068200.00
  10.002.9266590.00
  12.002.5676320.00
  14.001.9345790.00
  16.003.8746910.00
  18.003.1305550.00
  20.001.8047900.00
  
   expecting you experts opinion on this.
  
   Regards,
   Raja
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[gmx-users] Sigma and Epsilon values for nonbonded interactions with Fe in 2Fe2S cluster

2015-05-27 Thread Jan Riehm

Dear users,

I am using the amber99sb-ildn.ff force field to simulate an adrenodoxin 
molecule in a water box. In it there is a 2Fe2S cluster which is 
covalently bound to four surrounding cysteines (two cysteines to each Fe 
atom). After the first equilibration step (nvt) one of the cysteines 
clashes or overlaps with the farther apart Fe atom (which is not 
covalently bound). I've checked for the nonbonded interaction values in 
the ffnonbonded.itp and the values (sigma and epsilon) for Fe are zero 
in the [atomtypes]-directive.


I am pretty new to this MD simulation stuff and want to know how to 
derive the values for epsilon and sigma. Or can I look them up anywhere? 
Any hint to a tutorial would be very helpful!


Thank you very much and best regards,

Jan
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Re: [gmx-users] make_ndx question

2015-05-27 Thread Christopher Neale
what about editconf -f orig.pdb -o new.gro followed by figuring out the new 
residue numbers and running make_ndx on new.gro ?

I don't think you'll need the  -resnr 1 editconf flag, but if you run into 
other problems then you might try that.

Chris.




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To: gromacs.org_gmx-users@maillist.sys.kth.se
Subject: [gmx-users] make_ndx question

Dear all,

I am very amateur in GROMACS, so please forgive my silly question.
I want to group the following atoms

ATOM  2285b  C1  LIG X   6  32.880  59.958 110.850  0.00
0.00
ATOM  2285c  CL1 LIG X  6  31.972  61.400 110.520  0.00
0.00
ATOM  2285d  N1  LIG X   6  32.318  58.744 110.532  0.00
0.00
ATOM  2285e  C2  LIG X   6  33.272  57.852 110.816  0.00
0.00
ATOM  2285f  N2  LIG X6  34.376  58.450 111.368  0.00
0.00
ATOM  22860  C3  LIG X   6  34.138  59.800 111.370  0.00
0.00
ATOM  22861  C4  LIG X   6  35.550  57.768 111.896  0.00
0.00
ATOM  22862  H1  LIG X   6  35.550  57.880 112.984  0.00
0.00
ATOM  22863  H2  LIG X   6  35.460  56.692 111.730  0.00
0.00
ATOM  22864  C5  LIG X   6  34.992  60.962 111.784  0.00
0.00
ATOM  22865  H3  LIG X   6  35.626  61.290 110.956  0.00
0.00
ATOM  22866  H4  LIG X   6  34.380  61.822 112.070  0.00
0.00
ATOM  22867  O1  LIG X   6  35.840  60.652 112.888  0.00
0.00
ATOM  22868  H5  LIG X   6  36.496  60.016 112.550  0.00
0.00
ATOM  22869  C6  LIG X   6  33.084  56.380 110.604  0.00
0.00
ATOM  2286a  H6  LIG X   6  33.950  55.966 110.086  0.00
0.00
ATOM  2286b  H7  LIG X   6  33.040  55.868 111.568  0.00
0.00
ATOM  2286c  C7  LIG X   6  31.828  56.028 109.792  0.00
0.00
ATOM  2286d  H8  LIG X   6  30.938  56.388 110.312  0.00
0.00
ATOM  2286e  H9  LIG X   6  31.860  56.538 108.828  0.00
0.00
ATOM  2286f  C8  LIG X6  31.688  54.518 109.558  0.00  0.00

...

but the command,

a 2285b-2286f

or the command,

a 2285b 2285c 2285d ... 2286f

doesn't recognize atoms' numbers followed by a character

Found 0 atoms with names 2285B 2285C

Is there any other way that I could select these atoms?
I know I could try a dynamic selection (g_select), but unfortunately, my
pdb file contains 10 ligands and all of them have the same resname. Thus,
there is no feature besides the atom
that I could use to destinguish them. Even the coordinates are useless;
there are ligands with
almost the same x-coordinate but different y.
Thanking you in advance!
I hope I made clear my problem and didn't confuse you.
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[gmx-users] gromos53a6_lipid.ff/forcefield.itp not found

2015-05-27 Thread Poncho Arvayo Zatarain
Hello i'm doing a simulation and when i use grompp grompp -f dppc128.mdp -c 
dppc128_40ns.pdb -p dppc128.top -o dppc128_1.tpr i have this: Fatal error:
Topology include file gromos53a6_lipid.ff/forcefield.itp not found. What 
should i include in my topolofy files?

And i have 2 notes: NOTE 1 [file dppc128.mdp, line 34]:
  dppc128.mdp did not specify a value for the .mdp option cutoff-scheme.
  Probably it was first intended for use with GROMACS before 4.6. In 4.6,
  the Verlet scheme was introduced, but the group scheme was still the
  default. The default is now the Verlet scheme, so you will observe
  different behaviour. Should i inlude Cutoff-scheme verlet in my mdp file?

NOTE 2 [file dppc128.mdp]:
  The Berendsen thermostat does not generate the correct kinetic energy
  distribution. You might want to consider using the V-rescale thermostat. 
Should i include Berendsen at my Tcouple option on mdp file?
  
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[gmx-users] g_rdf normalization (-xy option)..

2015-05-27 Thread Alberto Sergio Garay

Hi all

I'm using g_rdf tool in my system with the option -xy, in order to  
calculate a cylindrical distribution function. I read the manual and  
also the help of the tool but I can't find anything about the  
normalization of this particular result. Could anyone tell me how rdf  
tool manages the normalization with the option (-xy). I have a long  
fiber of synthetic polymer, oriented along z direction, and I want to  
calculate the cylindrical distrib. function from the center of it  
(backbone). The rdf (cylindrical) shows some peaks which decay to zero  
at long distances, so I don't understand how the normalization is done.


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Re: [gmx-users] Coul-SR: positive value for interating group

2015-05-27 Thread Mark Abraham
Hi,

The present analysis says almost nothing about the interaction, neither
proof nor disproof. Along with what others have already said, stability is
relative to the available alternatives. You can start saying something
about stability associated with the arginine if you've e.g. measured the
free energy of binding with the arginine vs the free-energy of binding with
some similarly sized non-polar residue, for example. That is several orders
of magnitude more complex, however...

Mark

On Wed, 27 May 2015 17:18 Raj D gromacs.fo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thank you once again Dr Andre... So to identify the true interaction
 partner for the ligand's Carboxlate in simulation ...may I have to define
 the energy group as all amino acids of protein vs the carboxlate group of
 the ligand or any easy way out ... Since from my trajectory visualization
 it seemed the Arg 262 is stabilizing the carboxylate of the ligand but the
 electrostatic interaction analysis disproved it .
 Regards,
 Raja
 On May 27, 2015 8:25 PM, André Farias de Moura mo...@ufscar.br wrote:

  I agree with Mark: pairwise additive potentials are computationally
  convenient, but nature does not work like that.
 
  based on your email, it is seems that you are looking for an
  energy/enthalpy term explaining some structural pattern, but in most
 cases
  entropy role is also important and in some case might even be the leading
  contribution. That being said, you should probably consider some sort of
  PMF instead of looking for specific mechanical interactions.
 
  Andre
 
  On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 10:11 AM, Mark Abraham mark.j.abra...@gmail.com
 
  wrote:
 
   Hi,
  
   Indeed. Many force fields in common use are additive, but this is not
 the
   same as decomposable!
  
   Mark
  
   On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 2:52 PM André Farias de Moura mo...@ufscar.br
 
   wrote:
  
Raja,
just guessing, based on the few informations you posted: if the local
dipole moments of these groups are parallel to each other,
 interaction
  is
expected to be repulsive, even though they have opposite charges.
 Also
   mind
that overall structure in such complex systems depends on many
  different
interactions, so these two groups are not necessarily close because
  they
have interacted favorably, but because the overall interactions
 within
   the
whole system eventually led these groups to approach each other, just
   like
groups bearing the same charge pack together in micelles, membranes
 and
films, with large repulsive interactions between the charged heads
(stabilization comes from ionic and dipolar screening along with
hydrophobic interactions).
best
Andre
   
On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 3:09 AM, Raj D gromacs.fo...@gmail.com
  wrote:
   
 Dear Users,
 I have just completed simulation of a ligand and enzyme complex and
 when I visualized the  trajectory , I have noted an important close
 contact say about (7 to 10 A distances) between an active site
  residue
 Arg and the carboxylate group of the ligand through out the
  simulation
 time of 10ns. I wanted to quantify it using mdrun -rerun option and
 evaluated energy (COUL-SR) value of the polor atoms of the Arg and
 carboxylate as energygroup in my mdp file , and surprisingly I
 found
 the values are big positive numbers whereas I expected a negative
 values. Why the contradiction happens , trajectory showed
 attraction
 and energy is dispersion ?

 I just pasted few lines of the energy.xvg
 @ s0 legend Coul-SR:Arg262_NH-CPG_COOH
 @ s1 legend Coul-14:Arg262_NH-CPG_COOH
 0.005.6473150.00
 2.005.3674610.00
 4.006.1094620.00
 6.000.9768090.00
 8.004.3068200.00
10.002.9266590.00
12.002.5676320.00
14.001.9345790.00
16.003.8746910.00
18.003.1305550.00
20.001.8047900.00

 expecting you experts opinion on this.

 Regards,
 Raja
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Re: [gmx-users] Variation of distance between 2 CA atoms with time

2015-05-27 Thread Justin Lemkul


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On 5/27/15 12:52 AM, Biplab Ghosh wrote:

Thank you Justin.
I am sorry for not being able to properly pose the problem!

I need to know the variation in distance between two residues during the
course of the trajectory. I was not sure whether the command  was  correct
or not!



The command is correct (for CA-CA distance, which is not necessarily the same as 
a residue-residue distance).  I didn't understand why you thought you hadn't 
achieved what you wanted.


-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] Building topologies manually

2015-05-27 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 5/27/15 9:41 AM, Vy Phan wrote:

Dear Gromacs Users,

I want to simulate the protein s-glutathionylation. The problem is how to
build the topologies for glutathione ([image: $\gamma$]-Glu-Cys-Gly).

Could someone give me some suggestion and experiences?



This should be simple to piece together from existing building blocks, but the 
particular details depend on the force field you're using.  That's a key 
component to the process.


-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] Sigma and Epsilon values for nonbonded interactions with Fe in 2Fe2S cluster

2015-05-27 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 5/27/15 11:22 AM, Raj D wrote:

Hi ,
I am currently doing simulation of Fe dependent enzyme using Amber ff and I
too had problem and copied sigma and Epsilon from OPLS ff and so for my
simulation goes on fine.


Note that those parameters are not official OPLS (and are being removed anyway 
because of this fact) and certainly shouldn't be copied around between force 
fields.  Just because the simulation doesn't crash doesn't mean it's a valid 
physical model.


The reference for the parameters is given in the .atp file and indicates 
validation in the context of Fe2+ hydrates and nothing else.  The level of 
theory may be compatible with OPLS, but that remains to be determined.  I would 
not think the same parameters would necessarily be valid for any other 
Fe-containing prosthetic group.  The LJ parameters are probably of less concern 
than the problems associated with charges in such species.


-Justin

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[gmx-users] iodine non-bonded parameters for charmm36 force field

2015-05-27 Thread Yunlong Liu

Hi all,

I am trying to build up a model with iodide ion but I don't know where I 
can obtain those non-bonded parameters for this ion. I am using CHARMM36 
force field. Is there any suggestions for that. Thank you.


Best
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Re: [gmx-users] iodine non-bonded parameters for charmm36 force field

2015-05-27 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 5/27/15 4:32 PM, Yunlong Liu wrote:

Hi all,

I am trying to build up a model with iodide ion but I don't know where I can
obtain those non-bonded parameters for this ion. I am using CHARMM36 force
field. Is there any suggestions for that. Thank you.



There aren't any official CHARMM parameters for iodide.

-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] Water organic solvents mixtures: Which force field to use and best practice to derive parameters

2015-05-27 Thread Ebert Maximilian
I just finished a 1 ns NPT calculation of a 2.3x2.3x2.3 nm box filled with 
acetone (130 molecules). The expected density at 300K is 784.1 kg/m^3. For the 
virtual chemistry parameters i calculated 798.6 (close to the 800.1±0.2 value 
on their website) and for the parameter derived as explain in previous mail I 
got 817.0 which seems too high. Does anybody has an advice how I could improve 
the derivation of my parameters?

Thank you very much,

max

 
 On May 27, 2015, at 3:25 PM, Ebert Maximilian m.eb...@umontreal.ca wrote:
 
 I read more about organic solvents in MD and came to the conclusion that OPLS 
 is indeed the best way to go. Since I couldn’t really find an accessible 
 tutorial how to derive topology files for GROMACS and the FF OPLS/AA I will 
 document my progress here. Maybe this is of help for somebody in the future. 
 In addition, I would like to ask the community to help me in case you see 
 problems with my approach. Once I have a good protocol I will write a 
 tutorial and make it available online.
 
 To validate my approach I am trying to create a parameter set for acetone 
 which I found on  http://virtualchemistry.org. To generate the OPLS topology 
 I used a tool suggested by many people called mktop in version 2.2.1. I 
 downloaded the ideal geometry of acetone from Ligand Expo and generated a 
 GROMACS topology file using the following command:
 
 mktop_2.2.1.pl -i ACN_ideal.pdb -o acn_topology.top -ff opls -conect yes
 
 In order to get the charges for this organic molecule I downloaded the most 
 recent amber tools and compiled it. I used the AM1-BCC charge model to 
 generate charges for acetone using the following instructions in antechamber:
 
 antechamber -i ACN_ideal.pdb -fi pdb -o acn.mol2 -fo mol2 -c bcc -s 2
 
 I opened the resulting mol2 file in Chimera to map the atoms to the atoms in 
 my .top file. The charges calculated by antechamber look reasonable and are 
 comparable to the validated OPLS topology from virtual chemistry:
 
 virtual chemistry charges
 
 [ atoms ]
 ;   nr   type  resnr residue  atom   cgnr charge   mass  typeB
 chargeB  massB
 1  opls_280 1   LIG C 1  0.47
 12.011
 2  opls_135 1   LIG C 2 -0.18
 12.011
 3  opls_135 1   LIG C 3 -0.18
 12.011
 4  opls_281 1   LIG O 4 -0.47   
 15.9994
 5  opls_282 1   LIG H 5  0.06 
 1.008
 6  opls_282 1   LIG H 6  0.06 
 1.008
 7  opls_282 1   LIG H 7  0.06 
 1.008
 8  opls_282 1   LIG H 8  0.06 
 1.008
 9  opls_282 1   LIG H 9  0.06 
 1.008
10  opls_282 1   LIG H10  0.06 
 1.008
 
 
 antechamber AM1-BCC derived
 
 [ atoms ]
 ;   nr   type  resnr residue  atom   cgnr charge   mass  typeB
 chargeB  massB
1  opls_280   1   ACN  C110.56 12.011
2  opls_281   1   ACN  O11   -0.52 15.9994
3  opls_135   1   ACN  C22   -0.20 12.011
4  opls_135   1   ACN  C33   -0.20 12.011
5  opls_282   1   ACN  H120.06 1.008
6  opls_282   1   ACN  H220.06 1.008
7  opls_282   1   ACN  H320.06 1.008
8  opls_282   1   ACN  H430.06 1.008
9  opls_282   1   ACN  H530.06 1.008
   10  opls_282   1   ACN  H630.06 1.008
 
 The atom types were guessed correctly by mktop and also the charge groups 
 make sense I think. So far so good.
 
 I realize some differences between the two topologies. First the mktop 
 topology also includes FF constants for the different bonds and angles:
 
 [ bonds ]
 1 2 1   0.121  476976.0
 1 3 1   0.151  265265.6
 1 4 1   0.151  265265.6
 3 5 1   0.109  284512.0
 3 6 1   0.109  284512.0
 3 7 1   0.109  284512.0
 4 8 1   0.109  284512.0
 4 9 1   0.109  284512.0
 4 10 1   0.109  284512.0
 
 
 [ angles ]
 1 3 5 1  109.460  292.880
 1 3 6 1  109.473  292.880
 1 3 7 1  109.484  292.880
 1 4 8 1  109.466  292.880
 1 4 9 1  109.435  292.880
 1 4 10 1  109.477  292.880
 2 1 3 1  119.985  669.440
 2 1 4 1  119.985  669.440
 3 1 4 1  120.029  585.760
 5 3 6 1  109.445  276.144
 5 3 7 1  109.464  276.144
 6 3 7 1  109.502  276.144
 8 4 9 1  109.483  276.144
 8 4 10 1  109.504  276.144
 9 4 10 1  109.462  276.144
 
 compared to the virtual chemistry file:
 
 [ bonds ]
 ;  aiaj functc0c1c2c3
1 2 1
1 3 1
1 4 1
2 5 1
2 6 1
2 7 1
3 8 1
3 9 1
310 1
 
 [ angles ]
 ;  aiajak funct 

Re: [gmx-users] gromos53a6_lipid.ff/forcefield.itp not found

2015-05-27 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 5/27/15 1:50 PM, Poncho Arvayo Zatarain wrote:

Hello i'm doing a simulation and when i use grompp grompp -f dppc128.mdp -c 
dppc128_40ns.pdb -p dppc128.top -o dppc128_1.tpr i have this: Fatal error:
Topology include file gromos53a6_lipid.ff/forcefield.itp not found. What 
should i include in my topolofy files?



So the force field doesn't exist.  Either grompp can't find the 
gromos53a6_lipid.ff directory or it doesn't have forcefield.itp (which would 
indicate it hasn't been constructed properly).


-Justin


And i have 2 notes: NOTE 1 [file dppc128.mdp, line 34]:
   dppc128.mdp did not specify a value for the .mdp option cutoff-scheme.
   Probably it was first intended for use with GROMACS before 4.6. In 4.6,
   the Verlet scheme was introduced, but the group scheme was still the
   default. The default is now the Verlet scheme, so you will observe
   different behaviour. Should i inlude Cutoff-scheme verlet in my mdp file?

NOTE 2 [file dppc128.mdp]:
   The Berendsen thermostat does not generate the correct kinetic energy
   distribution. You might want to consider using the V-rescale thermostat. 
Should i include Berendsen at my Tcouple option on mdp file?




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Re: [gmx-users] iodine non-bonded parameters for charmm36 force field

2015-05-27 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 5/27/15 4:32 PM, Yunlong Liu wrote:

Hi all,

I am trying to build up a model with iodide ion but I don't know where I can
obtain those non-bonded parameters for this ion. I am using CHARMM36 force
field. Is there any suggestions for that. Thank you.



There aren't any official CHARMM parameters for iodide.

-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] Water organic solvents mixtures: Which force field to use and best practice to derive parameters

2015-05-27 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 5/27/15 5:11 PM, Ebert Maximilian wrote:

I just finished a 1 ns NPT calculation of a 2.3x2.3x2.3 nm box filled with
acetone (130 molecules). The expected density at 300K is 784.1 kg/m^3. For
the virtual chemistry parameters i calculated 798.6 (close to the 800.1±0.2
value on their website) and for the parameter derived as explain in previous
mail I got 817.0 which seems too high. Does anybody has an advice how I could
improve the derivation of my parameters?



Given that the atom types are unchanged and you altered the charges, it suggests 
that the new charges lead to interactions that are too strong.  The balance 
between LJ and electrostatic terms is key to the balance of the nonbonded 
interactions in the force field, so either you need to modify LJ terms (not fun) 
or refine the charges further.


Hydration free energy would be another good target data point.

-Justin


Thank you very much,

max



On May 27, 2015, at 3:25 PM, Ebert Maximilian m.eb...@umontreal.ca
wrote:

I read more about organic solvents in MD and came to the conclusion that
OPLS is indeed the best way to go. Since I couldn’t really find an
accessible tutorial how to derive topology files for GROMACS and the FF
OPLS/AA I will document my progress here. Maybe this is of help for
somebody in the future. In addition, I would like to ask the community to
help me in case you see problems with my approach. Once I have a good
protocol I will write a tutorial and make it available online.

To validate my approach I am trying to create a parameter set for acetone
which I found on  http://virtualchemistry.org. To generate the OPLS
topology I used a tool suggested by many people called mktop in version
2.2.1. I downloaded the ideal geometry of acetone from Ligand Expo and
generated a GROMACS topology file using the following command:

mktop_2.2.1.pl -i ACN_ideal.pdb -o acn_topology.top -ff opls -conect yes

In order to get the charges for this organic molecule I downloaded the most
recent amber tools and compiled it. I used the AM1-BCC charge model to
generate charges for acetone using the following instructions in
antechamber:

antechamber -i ACN_ideal.pdb -fi pdb -o acn.mol2 -fo mol2 -c bcc -s 2

I opened the resulting mol2 file in Chimera to map the atoms to the atoms
in my .top file. The charges calculated by antechamber look reasonable and
are comparable to the validated OPLS topology from virtual chemistry:

virtual chemistry charges

[ atoms ] ;   nr   type  resnr residue  atom   cgnr charge
mass  typeBchargeB  massB 1  opls_280 1   LIG C
1  0.4712.011 2  opls_135 1   LIG C 2
-0.1812.011 3  opls_135 1   LIG C 3
-0.1812.011 4  opls_281 1   LIG O 4
-0.47   15.9994 5  opls_282 1   LIG H 5
0.06 1.008 6  opls_282 1   LIG H 6
0.06 1.008 7  opls_282 1   LIG H 7
0.06 1.008 8  opls_282 1   LIG H 8
0.06 1.008 9  opls_282 1   LIG H 9
0.06 1.008 10  opls_282 1   LIG H10
0.06 1.008


antechamber AM1-BCC derived

[ atoms ] ;   nr   type  resnr residue  atom   cgnr charge
mass  typeBchargeB  massB 1  opls_280   1   ACN  C11
0.56 12.011 2  opls_281   1   ACN  O11   -0.52 15.9994 3
opls_135   1   ACN  C22   -0.20 12.011 4  opls_135   1   ACN
C33   -0.20 12.011 5  opls_282   1   ACN  H120.06
1.008 6  opls_282   1   ACN  H220.06 1.008 7  opls_282   1
ACN  H320.06 1.008 8  opls_282   1   ACN  H43
0.06 1.008 9  opls_282   1   ACN  H530.06 1.008 10
opls_282   1   ACN  H630.06 1.008

The atom types were guessed correctly by mktop and also the charge groups
make sense I think. So far so good.

I realize some differences between the two topologies. First the mktop
topology also includes FF constants for the different bonds and angles:

[ bonds ] 1 2 1   0.121  476976.0 1 3 1   0.151  265265.6 1 4 1   0.151
265265.6 3 5 1   0.109  284512.0 3 6 1   0.109  284512.0 3 7 1   0.109
284512.0 4 8 1   0.109  284512.0 4 9 1   0.109  284512.0 4 10 1   0.109
284512.0


[ angles ] 1 3 5 1  109.460  292.880 1 3 6 1  109.473  292.880 1 3 7 1
109.484  292.880 1 4 8 1  109.466  292.880 1 4 9 1  109.435  292.880 1 4 10
1  109.477  292.880 2 1 3 1  119.985  669.440 2 1 4 1  119.985  669.440 3 1
4 1  120.029  585.760 5 3 6 1  109.445  276.144 5 3 7 1  109.464  276.144 6
3 7 1  109.502  276.144 8 4 9 1  109.483  276.144 8 4 10 1  109.504
276.144 9 4 10 1  109.462  276.144

compared to the virtual chemistry file:

[ bonds ] ;  aiaj functc0c1c2
c3 1 2 1 1 3 1 1 4 1 2 5 1 2 6 1 2
7 1 3 8 1 3 9 1 310 1


Re: [gmx-users] Is it reasonable to get a bad Ramachandran plot after MD?

2015-05-27 Thread Tsjerk Wassenaar
Hi Kevin,

What happens if you bring the temperature down gradually to experimental
(crystallization) conditions?

For each residue, what is the proportion of time spent in 'forbidden'
regions? Is there a correlation with B-factor? And what would be the effect
of the outliers on the experimental observable (the scattering pattern, not
the fitted, energy minimized structure)?

Cheers,

Tsjerk

On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 7:43 AM, Kevin C Chan cchan224...@my.cityu.edu.hk
wrote:

 Dear Justin,

 Thanks for the reply. I was using CHARMM27 force-field. In fact, it was a
 MDFF simulations in NAMD raising my interest as the resulted structure had
 5% outliers and was doubted by experimentalists. I also checked other
 conventional MD results and the % of outliers vary among structures from
 1% to 5% (all using the same CHARMM force-field).

 I do not know specifically which residues lie in those regions, can anyone
 suggest a more comprehensive analysis tool for Ramachandran plot?

 Thanks in advance,
 Kevin

 On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 12:41 AM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:

 
 
  On 5/14/15 8:51 AM, Kevin C Chan wrote:
 
  Dear Users,
 
  As the title states, I am wondering the validity behind the outliers
  appear
  in a Ramachandran plot of structure after MD. I only have little data on
  this, but for a 10,000-atom protein, portion of outlier can increase
 from
  0.7% to 5.0%. Is this explainable? Or it simply means my force-field
 does
  not
  care about the dihedral angles but still accurate enough to predict
  protein
  dynamics?
 
 
  Which residues lie in those regions?  What force field are you using?  Is
  that force field known to produce only-allowable Ramachandran regions.
  Note that glycine can do just about anything it likes...
 
  -Justin
 
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[gmx-users] Coul-SR: positive value for interating group

2015-05-27 Thread Raj D
Dear Users,
I have just completed simulation of a ligand and enzyme complex and
when I visualized the  trajectory , I have noted an important close
contact say about (7 to 10 A distances) between an active site residue
Arg and the carboxylate group of the ligand through out the simulation
time of 10ns. I wanted to quantify it using mdrun -rerun option and
evaluated energy (COUL-SR) value of the polor atoms of the Arg and
carboxylate as energygroup in my mdp file , and surprisingly I found
the values are big positive numbers whereas I expected a negative
values. Why the contradiction happens , trajectory showed attraction
and energy is dispersion ?

I just pasted few lines of the energy.xvg
@ s0 legend Coul-SR:Arg262_NH-CPG_COOH
@ s1 legend Coul-14:Arg262_NH-CPG_COOH
0.005.6473150.00
2.005.3674610.00
4.006.1094620.00
6.000.9768090.00
8.004.3068200.00
   10.002.9266590.00
   12.002.5676320.00
   14.001.9345790.00
   16.003.8746910.00
   18.003.1305550.00
   20.001.8047900.00

expecting you experts opinion on this.

Regards,
Raja
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Re: [gmx-users] Coul-SR: positive value for interating group

2015-05-27 Thread Raj D
Thanks Dr Mark your points are well taken.
Regards,
Raja
On May 28, 2015 1:46 AM, Mark Abraham mark.j.abra...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 The present analysis says almost nothing about the interaction, neither
 proof nor disproof. Along with what others have already said, stability is
 relative to the available alternatives. You can start saying something
 about stability associated with the arginine if you've e.g. measured the
 free energy of binding with the arginine vs the free-energy of binding with
 some similarly sized non-polar residue, for example. That is several orders
 of magnitude more complex, however...

 Mark

 On Wed, 27 May 2015 17:18 Raj D gromacs.fo...@gmail.com wrote:

  Thank you once again Dr Andre... So to identify the true interaction
  partner for the ligand's Carboxlate in simulation ...may I have to define
  the energy group as all amino acids of protein vs the carboxlate group of
  the ligand or any easy way out ... Since from my trajectory visualization
  it seemed the Arg 262 is stabilizing the carboxylate of the ligand but
 the
  electrostatic interaction analysis disproved it .
  Regards,
  Raja
  On May 27, 2015 8:25 PM, André Farias de Moura mo...@ufscar.br
 wrote:
 
   I agree with Mark: pairwise additive potentials are computationally
   convenient, but nature does not work like that.
  
   based on your email, it is seems that you are looking for an
   energy/enthalpy term explaining some structural pattern, but in most
  cases
   entropy role is also important and in some case might even be the
 leading
   contribution. That being said, you should probably consider some sort
 of
   PMF instead of looking for specific mechanical interactions.
  
   Andre
  
   On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 10:11 AM, Mark Abraham 
 mark.j.abra...@gmail.com
  
   wrote:
  
Hi,
   
Indeed. Many force fields in common use are additive, but this is not
  the
same as decomposable!
   
Mark
   
On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 2:52 PM André Farias de Moura 
 mo...@ufscar.br
  
wrote:
   
 Raja,
 just guessing, based on the few informations you posted: if the
 local
 dipole moments of these groups are parallel to each other,
  interaction
   is
 expected to be repulsive, even though they have opposite charges.
  Also
mind
 that overall structure in such complex systems depends on many
   different
 interactions, so these two groups are not necessarily close because
   they
 have interacted favorably, but because the overall interactions
  within
the
 whole system eventually led these groups to approach each other,
 just
like
 groups bearing the same charge pack together in micelles, membranes
  and
 films, with large repulsive interactions between the charged heads
 (stabilization comes from ionic and dipolar screening along with
 hydrophobic interactions).
 best
 Andre

 On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 3:09 AM, Raj D gromacs.fo...@gmail.com
   wrote:

  Dear Users,
  I have just completed simulation of a ligand and enzyme complex
 and
  when I visualized the  trajectory , I have noted an important
 close
  contact say about (7 to 10 A distances) between an active site
   residue
  Arg and the carboxylate group of the ligand through out the
   simulation
  time of 10ns. I wanted to quantify it using mdrun -rerun option
 and
  evaluated energy (COUL-SR) value of the polor atoms of the Arg
 and
  carboxylate as energygroup in my mdp file , and surprisingly I
  found
  the values are big positive numbers whereas I expected a negative
  values. Why the contradiction happens , trajectory showed
  attraction
  and energy is dispersion ?
 
  I just pasted few lines of the energy.xvg
  @ s0 legend Coul-SR:Arg262_NH-CPG_COOH
  @ s1 legend Coul-14:Arg262_NH-CPG_COOH
  0.005.6473150.00
  2.005.3674610.00
  4.006.1094620.00
  6.000.9768090.00
  8.004.3068200.00
 10.002.9266590.00
 12.002.5676320.00
 14.001.9345790.00
 16.003.8746910.00
 18.003.1305550.00
 20.001.8047900.00
 
  expecting you experts opinion on this.
 
  Regards,
  Raja
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[gmx-users] Making disulfide bonds between protein and glutathion (GSH)

2015-05-27 Thread Vy Phan
Dear Gromas User,
I want to making disulfide bonds between protein and glutathion (GSH).
The topology for GSH I got from Produg serve.
Could you please show me how I can make the disulfide bons  between protein
and GSH?

Thank you so much
Tuong Vy
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[gmx-users] Topology for Ligand from Prodrg server and force field 54a7 for protein

2015-05-27 Thread Vy Phan
Dear Gromacs Users
I use the force field 54a7 for protein. Can I simulate the protein-ligand
complex with topology of ligand get from PRODRG server.

Thanh in advance
Tuong Vy
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Re: [gmx-users] Building topologies manually

2015-05-27 Thread Vy Phan
Dear Justin,
I am so thankful for your reply.
I still do not know how I can build the topology for the [image: $\gamma$]
-Glu.
I want to use gromos force field 54a7. Could you give some more guideline?

Tuong Vy

2015-05-28 5:27 GMT+09:00 Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu:



 On 5/27/15 9:41 AM, Vy Phan wrote:

 Dear Gromacs Users,

 I want to simulate the protein s-glutathionylation. The problem is how to
 build the topologies for glutathione ([image: $\gamma$]-Glu-Cys-Gly).

 Could someone give me some suggestion and experiences?


 This should be simple to piece together from existing building blocks, but
 the particular details depend on the force field you're using.  That's a
 key component to the process.

 -Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] Water organic solvents mixtures: Which force field to use and best practice to derive parameters

2015-05-27 Thread Mohd Farid Ismail
You can try R.E.D. Server.  It has more charge models (I don't know whether that will help).   Also, IMO, one should target the density and the static dielectric constant when it comes to VDW and partial charges.  I saw a recent paper that might be of interest to you http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/jp3002383 --Mohd Farid Ismail28.05.2015, 05:13, "Ebert Maximilian" m.eb...@umontreal.ca:I just finished a 1 ns NPT calculation of a 2.3x2.3x2.3 nm box filled with acetone (130 molecules). The expected density at 300K is 784.1 kg/m^3. For the virtual chemistry parameters i calculated 798.6 (close to the 800.1±0.2 value on their website) and for the parameter derived as explain in previous mail I got 817.0 which seems too high. Does anybody has an advice how I could improve the derivation of my parameters?Thank you very much,max On May 27, 2015, at 3:25 PM, Ebert Maximilian m.eb...@umontreal.ca wrote: I read more about organic solvents in MD and came to the conclusion that OPLS is indeed the best way to go. Since I couldn’t really find an accessible tutorial how to derive topology files for GROMACS and the FF OPLS/AA I will document my progress here. Maybe this is of help for somebody in the future. In addition, I would like to ask the community to help me in case you see problems with my approach. Once I have a good protocol I will write a tutorial and make it available online. To validate my approach I am trying to create a parameter set for acetone which I found on  http://virtualchemistry.org. To generate the OPLS topology I used a tool suggested by many people called mktop in version 2.2.1. I downloaded the ideal geometry of acetone from Ligand Expo and generated a GROMACS topology file using the following command: mktop_2.2.1.pl -i ACN_ideal.pdb -o acn_topology.top -ff opls -conect yes In order to get the charges for this organic molecule I downloaded the most recent amber tools and compiled it. I used the AM1-BCC charge model to generate charges for acetone using the following instructions in antechamber: antechamber -i ACN_ideal.pdb -fi pdb -o acn.mol2 -fo mol2 -c bcc -s 2 I opened the resulting mol2 file in Chimera to map the atoms to the atoms in my .top file. The charges calculated by antechamber look reasonable and are comparable to the validated OPLS topology from virtual chemistry: virtual chemistry charges [ atoms ] ;   nr   type  resnr residue  atom   cgnr charge   mass  typeB    chargeB  massB 1  opls_280 1   LIG C 1  0.47    12.011 2  opls_135 1   LIG C 2 -0.18    12.011 3  opls_135 1   LIG C 3 -0.18    12.011 4  opls_281 1   LIG O 4 -0.47   15.9994 5  opls_282 1   LIG H 5  0.06 1.008 6  opls_282 1   LIG H 6  0.06 1.008 7  opls_282 1   LIG H 7  0.06 1.008 8  opls_282 1   LIG H 8  0.06 1.008 9  opls_282 1   LIG H 9  0.06 1.00810  opls_282 1   LIG H    10  0.06 1.008 antechamber AM1-BCC derived [ atoms ] ;   nr   type  resnr residue  atom   cgnr charge   mass  typeB    chargeB  massB1  opls_280   1   ACN  C1    1    0.56 12.0112  opls_281   1   ACN  O1    1   -0.52 15.99943  opls_135   1   ACN  C2    2   -0.20 12.0114  opls_135   1   ACN  C3    3   -0.20 12.0115  opls_282   1   ACN  H1    2    0.06 1.0086  opls_282   1   ACN  H2    2    0.06 1.0087  opls_282   1   ACN  H3    2    0.06 1.0088  opls_282   1   ACN  H4    3    0.06 1.0089  opls_282   1   ACN  H5    3    0.06 1.008   10  opls_282   1   ACN  H6    3    0.06 1.008 The atom types were guessed correctly by mktop and also the charge groups make sense I think. So far so good. I realize some differences between the two topologies. First the mktop topology also includes FF constants for the different bonds and angles: [ bonds ] 1 2 1   0.121  476976.0 1 3 1   0.151  265265.6 1 4 1   0.151  265265.6 3 5 1   0.109  284512.0 3 6 1   0.109  284512.0 3 7 1   0.109  284512.0 4 8 1   0.109  284512.0 4 9 1   0.109  284512.0 4 10 1   0.109  284512.0 [ angles ] 1 3 5 1  109.460  292.880 1 3 6 1  109.473  292.880 1 3 7 1  109.484  292.880 1 4 8 1  109.466  292.880 1 4 9 1  109.435  292.880 1 4 10 1  109.477  292.880 2 1 3 1  119.985  669.440 2 1 4 1  119.985  669.440 3 1 4 1  120.029  585.760 5 3 6 1  109.445  276.144 5 3 7 1  109.464  276.144 6 3 7 1  109.502  276.144 8 4 9 1  109.483  276.144 8 4 10 1  109.504  276.144 9 4 10 1  109.462  276.144 compared to the virtual chemistry file: [ bonds ] ;  ai    aj funct    c0    c1