Re: GTD process question: Daily todo lists

2009-12-02 Thread Frederic Aguiard
Hello,

At some point in the past, I realized that 95% of my next actions were
attached to the context '@work'. I did try to split that in several
contexts like '@computer:online', '@computer:offline' and '@office' to
account for the fact that I sometimes work from office, from home
(both with internet access) and sometimes while commuting without
internet access. However this was not enough to reduce the amount of
next actions in '@computer:online' (still in the 85% range).

Therefore I decided to experiment the multiple-context capabilities of
mGTD, and to throw in a few more contexts which are not location
based, in parallel of the ones listed above.
I tried using for example a '@criticalPath' for actions which will
delay other people's work if I do not respect my deadlines, a
'@today' (that I daily updated) to mark items I wanted to do during
the day (thus making a daily to-do list...), etc... In the end, what I
did was having two sets of contexts, one for 'priorities' and the
other one for 'physical location', and I used the intersection of the
two to reduce the number of actions I have to choose from each day.

I also tried when applicable to reduce the number of next actions per
project to 1, only keeping as active the one with the highest
'priority', and moving the others to 'future', even if it was possible
to do them immediately.

I do not know if such ideas will be compatible with your environment,
but what is great is that both GTD and MonkeyGTD give you a very broad
capacity to experiment :)

Best regards,

Frederic

On 28 nov, 03:21, John Holden j...@holdencrew.com wrote:
 You can think about using/referring to the 'Completed Projects' and  
 'Done Actions' lists/ticklers to track what you have done for your  
 boss.  This will list things by date and you can review it as part of  
 your Weekly Review.  It is 'very GTD' to do a thorough weekly review  
 and I think it makes a big difference.

 With regard to daily ToDo lists, part of the GTD dogma is do what  
 works for you!  If you want to discipline yourself and commit to  
 getting a discrete number of things done - come hell or high water -  
 you can write them in your calendar/diary, allocating them a time as  
 appointments.  These tasks are going to take time, so there's nothing  
 wrong in committing to 'an appointment with yourself' to complete next  
 actions.

 If you're getting lost with context-based next action lists, perhaps  
 you should review your contexts and challenge whether they actually  
 work for you?  Are they relevant to how your work/life is structured?  
 My At Office list gets very long and out-of-control, as does my At  
 Computer.  This is because my computer is at the office (!) and the  
 risk is that everything gets added to one of these lists.  At the  
 moment I am focusing on getting the lists done, rather than worrying  
 about how they should be organised!

 Maybe you need fewer contexts?  Maybe more?  Probably different.  
 Worth a think about why you get lost quickly.

 Good luck

 John

 On 28 Nov 2009, at 00:11, Jeff wrote:



  I'm back at mgtd after trying text files for a while. They're just not
  as pretty or cool as a TW-based app.

  Now I'm trying to use mgtd to also track what I have done so that I
  can easily produce status reports/tasklogs for my boss.

  Is it contrary to GTD dogma to use daily todo lists? When I use
  context-based next action lists, I get lost very quickly.

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Re: tbGTD

2009-12-02 Thread birddog
Tobias,

Is there no one-click method for marking an action as done? I'm
looking for that in vain.

Thanks,

Jim

On Oct 26, 10:14 am, Tobias beertob...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Hi everyone,

 As Mat pointed out 
 here...http://groups.google.com/group/gtd-tiddlywiki/msg/f8f5872345b24e6a

 ...there now is another GTD wiki called tbGTD, which you find 
 here:http://tbgtd.tiddlyspot.com/

 Until yesterday, I didn't even know this group existed ...so you can
 imagine that so far this is more of a homebrew than driven by expert/
 community fedback. But, possibly that wasn't such a bad thing after
 all, to not be overly influenced when things gets started and to stick
 to some basic ideas.

 Anyways... be invited to poke around it and give it a shot and throw
 back some feedback (pro's/con's). I don't want to go down the 10001
 feature road, especially not in a strict GTD sense, tightening up the
 workflows to prevent people from engaging in bad habits or poking them
 in the right direction. I want people to be aware of what they do,
 much more in a tiddlywiki-sense, than a GTD one. But I am well
 inclined to add certain features, like Simon's quick-add for example
 might be one of, or my cycleTags from 
 here:http://lastfm.tiddlyspot.com/#cycleTagsInfo

 enjoy,
 Tobias.

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Re: tbGTD

2009-12-02 Thread Tobias Beer
Hi Jim,

That's good feedback... I think that's what others definetely agree to
being a much helpful addition.


As you probalby know, right now, there's only a two-click (if not even
a four-click) way, using x-tag while opening and closing the
respective tiddler. I can see how that is not the most efficient way
when GTD'ing is what you do all the time.

In gerneral, such features shouldn't be too difficult to implement. I
haven't yet taken the time to answer the questions of how to
implement them.


So, I agree, it's probably about time to have another look at ways of
assigning GTD tags (once an item is a GTD item). I like the way it is
done in GTDinbox for gmail. Meaning, the main GTD action tags are one
click buttons in a row right below the header informations of your
email (here 'tiddler'). I'll look into ways of implementing the
required features into the viewtemplate of the tbGtdTheme and about
how to best provide for GTD related actions.

I might possibly go for some sort of expandable/collapsible GTD
ribbon, providing such GTD tag buttons, auto-expanding if a tiddler
is a GTD item. As for GTDinbox, I think reengineering that popup
overview allowing you to inspect your GTDaction items via tabbed lists
would also be quite helpful.


On the other hand, I think it might be especially helpful to be ale to
switch GTD status tags right on your desk (or other such lists)... via
some dropdown (which would be two-click) or buttons (which would be
one-click) or maybe both combined ...in order to avoid having to open
a GTD item, then assigning the new status and closing it, which would
even be a 3-click-action, involving the whole view to change.

Sounds like some sort of MonkeyGTD desk... so, let the flame-wars
begin ;o)


Lastly, I can very well imagine that some of you guys are adding your
own little or big feature-bits to tbGTD... if that is the case and you
find your additions to be quite valuable, I am very much inclined to
upload or reference test-cases for such features... so that others
might benefit from your polishing.



Please note that, right now, I really need to start taking a whole lot
more time on getting a new job. So, I can't tell you when it will be
done, but it definetely will be... and once it is, I'll sure let you
know and help you realeave your click-pains. :o)


Tobias.

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Re: GTD process question: Daily todo lists

2009-12-02 Thread jdunham
I haven't found contexts to be that useful.  I'm sure they are for
others, but that's not just the way my next actions need to be
sorted.  However I did have the problem of too many next actions.
What helped me is making another state for actions and projects which
need doing, but are not on my next actions list.  I put items on this
list until my next actions are down to a manageable number (like five
or so) and then daily or weekly or when Next actions are empty, I can
get that other list and review it.

See 
http://tiddlywiki.org/wiki/MonkeyGTD/Customization_Guide/Custom_Project_Classifications
for details, if you are interested.

On Dec 2, 1:03 am, Frederic Aguiard frederic.agui...@gmail.com
wrote:
 Hello,

 At some point in the past, I realized that 95% of my next actions were
 attached to the context '@work'. I did try to split that in several
 contexts like '@computer:online', '@computer:offline' and '@office' to
 account for the fact that I sometimes work from office, from home
 (both with internet access) and sometimes while commuting without
 internet access. However this was not enough to reduce the amount of
 next actions in '@computer:online' (still in the 85% range).

 Therefore I decided to experiment the multiple-context capabilities of
 mGTD, and to throw in a few more contexts which are not location
 based, in parallel of the ones listed above.
 I tried using for example a '@criticalPath' for actions which will
 delay other people's work if I do not respect my deadlines, a
 '@today' (that I daily updated) to mark items I wanted to do during
 the day (thus making a daily to-do list...), etc... In the end, what I
 did was having two sets of contexts, one for 'priorities' and the
 other one for 'physical location', and I used the intersection of the
 two to reduce the number of actions I have to choose from each day.

 I also tried when applicable to reduce the number of next actions per
 project to 1, only keeping as active the one with the highest
 'priority', and moving the others to 'future', even if it was possible
 to do them immediately.

 I do not know if such ideas will be compatible with your environment,
 but what is great is that both GTD and MonkeyGTD give you a very broad
 capacity to experiment :)

 Best regards,

 Frederic

 On 28 nov, 03:21, John Holden j...@holdencrew.com wrote:



  You can think about using/referring to the 'Completed Projects' and  
  'Done Actions' lists/ticklers to track what you have done for your  
  boss.  This will list things by date and you can review it as part of  
  your Weekly Review.  It is 'very GTD' to do a thorough weekly review  
  and I think it makes a big difference.

  With regard to daily ToDo lists, part of the GTD dogma is do what  
  works for you!  If you want to discipline yourself and commit to  
  getting a discrete number of things done - come hell or high water -  
  you can write them in your calendar/diary, allocating them a time as  
  appointments.  These tasks are going to take time, so there's nothing  
  wrong in committing to 'an appointment with yourself' to complete next  
  actions.

  If you're getting lost with context-based next action lists, perhaps  
  you should review your contexts and challenge whether they actually  
  work for you?  Are they relevant to how your work/life is structured?  
  My At Office list gets very long and out-of-control, as does my At  
  Computer.  This is because my computer is at the office (!) and the  
  risk is that everything gets added to one of these lists.  At the  
  moment I am focusing on getting the lists done, rather than worrying  
  about how they should be organised!

  Maybe you need fewer contexts?  Maybe more?  Probably different.  
  Worth a think about why you get lost quickly.

  Good luck

  John

  On 28 Nov 2009, at 00:11, Jeff wrote:

   I'm back at mgtd after trying text files for a while. They're just not
   as pretty or cool as a TW-based app.

   Now I'm trying to use mgtd to also track what I have done so that I
   can easily produce status reports/tasklogs for my boss.

   Is it contrary to GTD dogma to use daily todo lists? When I use
   context-based next action lists, I get lost very quickly.

   --
   Jeff

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