Re: Update: mGSD on TiddlySpace
Hi David My user on tiddlyspace is mama (without the quotes) On 25 Feb., 06:26, DavidS dav...@seasamin.info wrote: Thank-you Måns for your response and did consider it prompt so thanks again. I thought this was more a mGSD issue than TiddlySpace Google Group development issue hence chose to make my posts here. If solve enough issues then can drop a completed post there as well referencing back to this Google Group post. Knowing where to look now, I aplied your MptwTheme and MgtdUserConf changes by a Meld compare of these tiddlers to mine and adding missing code. They appear to work well on my adapted mGSD at Tiddlyspace. It looks like what was needed to solve my ealier posts' issues. SAVING? Can I ask how extensive your problem is with being forced to do manual saves? For me when I create or edit a tiddler I get the tiddlywiki pop-up like save message at top right and the changes persist on reload at TiddlySpace. I then also disabled the MgtdUserConf autosave true edit on a hunch and autosave remains true in mGSD options on reloads. Also the checkbox ticks, context changes etc in Actions persist ok if I have made a subsequent tiddler text change and it auto-saves or I do a manual save changes. I do have failure issue with tiddler date box changes as they revert to pre-change on reload. But I can create a new tickler with a date or change date in a tickler and if also change its note in it then autosave works to persist the date change. Maybe that may give someone an idea for a code fix or workaround so one does not need to remember to do that. Were there other save issues you had? When I imported all my mGSD tiddlers it did so as private so need a member name to share for you to test the above yourself - if interested. I can share my mGSD with your TiddlySpace member username if you like to PM me. Its a work in progress demo standard for me and I backed up so change what you like and maybe just use MemberEdits tiddler to reference any system tiddler changes that want to persist. Understand if you do not have time and someone else showing mGSD experience may offer on reading this post. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups GTD TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to gtd-tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to gtd-tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/gtd-tiddlywiki?hl=en.
Re: Update: mGSD on TiddlySpace
Hi David First: Sorry I haven't answered any of your posts earlier, however I don't use mgsd myself - and I rarely find the time to read post in every TW-forum in depth... I've updated the MptwTheme tiddler - to display the options you are asking for - both in the ViewTemplate and the EditTemplate - you won't see the checkboxes for setting privacy in already existing tiddlers. You'll have to create a new tiddler to get the option - on the other hand, you can always toggle privacy from ViewMode - clicking the icon..: http://mamagsd.tiddlyspace.com/#MptwTheme The thing that really prevents me from using mgsd on tiddlyspace is the fact that I have to click save changes everytime I've done anything... Not even the standard new tiddler button in the TW - menu tab saves tiddlers back to the space - untill you've clicked the save changes button... that is.. I wish you good luck with the project - and check out http://mamagsd.tiddlyspace.com/#MgtdUserConf for some of the little hacks that provided Chris for basic editing capabilities on tiddlyspace... Cheers Måns Mårtensson On 23 Feb., 09:04, DavidS dav...@seasamin.info wrote: More notes: 1) Tiddlyspace system tiddlers: To access Tiddlyspace system tiddlers in sidebar, you need to ensure your sidebar somewhere includes tiddler Backstage##Tiddlers 2) Public/Private selection disappearance: The EditTemplate of TiddlySpace tiddlywiki has a Public/Private selection which disappears on mGSD tiddlers import. This means your new tiddlers are defaulted to Public. This appears also to be the case withhttp://mamagsd.tiddlyspace.com mentioned above. This is a critical issue for using mGSD in TiddlySpace as you need control of new tiddlers being Private if you wish. There is capacity to access the centre tiddlyspace drop down menu from top TiddlySpace backstage toolbar and use the tweaks tab to set default to private. Except that does not seem to stop new tiddlers being public for me. The ToggleTiddlerPrivacyPlugin allows you to set the privacy of new tiddlers and external tiddlers within an EditTemplate, and allows you to set the default privacy setting. And the TiddlySpaceTiddlerIconsPlugin shows the origin of the tiddler it is being run on. In TiddlySpace terms this means it will determine whether the tiddler is external, public or private. Each appear to have related code persisting in the EditTemplate and ViewTemplate which at first look do not appear to be editable or overwritten by same named tiddler imports. So the Public/Private selection disappearance may be caused by other imported tiddler over-rides of TiddlySpace theme tiddlers. Nothing obvious found in my Stylesheet or my MonkeyGTDTheme tiddlers. Note the MonkeyGTDTheme tiddler does not itself have code for the EditTemplate to cause an override of the TiddlySpace EditTemplate. I feel I need someone with better understanding of theme construction to help point me somewhere in theme tiddlers to track this down. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups GTD TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to gtd-tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to gtd-tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/gtd-tiddlywiki?hl=en.
Re: Update: mGSD on TiddlySpace
Thank-you Måns for your response and did consider it prompt so thanks again. I thought this was more a mGSD issue than TiddlySpace Google Group development issue hence chose to make my posts here. If solve enough issues then can drop a completed post there as well referencing back to this Google Group post. Knowing where to look now, I aplied your MptwTheme and MgtdUserConf changes by a Meld compare of these tiddlers to mine and adding missing code. They appear to work well on my adapted mGSD at Tiddlyspace. It looks like what was needed to solve my ealier posts' issues. SAVING? Can I ask how extensive your problem is with being forced to do manual saves? For me when I create or edit a tiddler I get the tiddlywiki pop-up like save message at top right and the changes persist on reload at TiddlySpace. I then also disabled the MgtdUserConf autosave true edit on a hunch and autosave remains true in mGSD options on reloads. Also the checkbox ticks, context changes etc in Actions persist ok if I have made a subsequent tiddler text change and it auto-saves or I do a manual save changes. I do have failure issue with tiddler date box changes as they revert to pre-change on reload. But I can create a new tickler with a date or change date in a tickler and if also change its note in it then autosave works to persist the date change. Maybe that may give someone an idea for a code fix or workaround so one does not need to remember to do that. Were there other save issues you had? When I imported all my mGSD tiddlers it did so as private so need a member name to share for you to test the above yourself - if interested. I can share my mGSD with your TiddlySpace member username if you like to PM me. Its a work in progress demo standard for me and I backed up so change what you like and maybe just use MemberEdits tiddler to reference any system tiddler changes that want to persist. Understand if you do not have time and someone else showing mGSD experience may offer on reading this post. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups GTD TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to gtd-tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to gtd-tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/gtd-tiddlywiki?hl=en.
Re: Update: mGSD on TiddlySpace
2 More but deeply related Issues 1) Need to add config.options.chkPrivateMode = true; without quotes to MgtdUserConf to force tweak privacy settings to remain checked to be Private as this may get lost between reloads. 2) When creating a new Action, Tickler, Reference etc, if you use mGSD + symbols to create then they still default to Public despite taking action for item (1) above. But if you create first as new Tiddler with changes above by Måns Mårtensson then you can set Private (if not default) and convert to required Action, Tickler etc by adding that tag. If already Public, then remove relevant tag and save to change status in view mode and then edit again to add relevant Action or other mGSD tag. That means some more template or core system changes needed for usual mGSD functionality. Any ideas? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups GTD TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to gtd-tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to gtd-tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/gtd-tiddlywiki?hl=en.
Update: mGSD on TiddlySpace
I was interested in how TiddlySpace was going for using mGSD after seeing
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/gtd-tiddlywiki/e3bCaA52K1A/zV-TRuuEwiIJ
My hope was to find the simplest method of hosting a mGSD for member
approved shared editing.
I created a space with their tiddlywiki app. I then imported all tiddlers
of one of my active mGSD files into that Tiddlywiki and presto it seems to
work well. Just one fix and 2 issues to workaround so far.
1) Fix mgtdList problem: Add a systemConfig tiddler with one line function
forceReflow() {} (no quotes) as suggested here
https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlyweb/browse_thread/thread/9f88b888afba3f14
2) View Template update message: I get a message Updated
config.mptwDateFormat?config.mptwDateFormat:2/22/12 instead of the
regular tiddler update message notification. Not sure of cause and did not
see a relevant difference in ViewTemplate tiddler of mGSD to the stock
standard TiddlySPace tiddlywiki but it is not serious enough for me to
track down further yet.
3) New mGSD related tiddler creation: If you use mGSD + tools to create
Actions, Ticklers, Projects and References then automatic creation of the
required tiddler tags is faulty. It creates tag area with content like this
[[Action Next [[]] +config.macros.mgtdList.getRealm()+']]' . NO WORRIES
as just delete the tag bar content in edit mode of the new tiddler and
replace with the relevant Tag being Actions, Ticklers, Projects or
References and save and click relevant displayed settings in that tiddler
to add additional setting tags.
And just make sure you save changes before departure. Some tickler data
updates and check-box clicks for completed tiddlers do not persist unless
other tiddler saves have occurred.
Its looking like a possible alternative for mGSD hosting with shared
editing. Just need to resolve those issues assuming they are the only ones.
Has anyone got a mGSD working cleanly at TiddlySpace?
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Re: Update: mGSD on TiddlySpace
Ok badly worded post above. Yes there are mGSD implementations on TiddlySpace but I did not see how to do it except by the import function over their Tiddlywiki. So question should be for those who have a clean mGSD use on TiddlySpace, how do you solve items 2 and 3? Or is there a better way of implementing mGSD on TiddlySpace? Always prepared to look the fool if it helps someone else not do the same. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups GTD TiddlyWiki group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/gtd-tiddlywiki/-/3cAwaXC48fUJ. To post to this group, send email to gtd-tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to gtd-tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/gtd-tiddlywiki?hl=en.
