Re: [guadec-list] conference software

2017-10-20 Thread Sriram Ramkrishna
Hola Tobi!

On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 2:54 AM Tobias Mueller 
wrote:

> Hi.
>
> On Fri, 2017-10-20 at 01:26 +, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote:
> > LAS is looking to move to a new conference software.  We would like to
> > move to OSEM (http://osem.io/).  I realize there was some talk about
> > using whatever FOSDEM is using, but honestly that software is 8 years
> > old and nobody supports it.
> What software are you talking about?
>

I believe it was called pentabarf.  Github says it hasn't been touched in a
long awhile.

Frab? I don't have the impression that it's neither unmaintained nor not
> supported. In fact, it sets standards when it comes to an open format
> for the conference's schedules.
> https://github.com/frab/frab


Nope, is that what fosdem is using?


>
> From what I can see, it's used very extensively by important European
> conferences (FOSDEM, FrOSCon, CCCongress, PrivacyWeek, ...).
>
> >   There is 5-6 dedicated people for OSEM.
> But is anybody actually using it? Besides the people themselves for
> openSuSE Conference.
>

I believe small conferences like SeaGL is using it, and large conferences
like AllThingsOpen is using it.  There are probably some other ones.


> >   So, I'm hoping to make an executive decision and move to OSEM.
> What's your reasoning so far?
>
>
Mostly because I have to spin up a website for LAS very quickly and start
working on call for papers and a number of other things.  I have a short
deadlines since I am driving fundraising for htis conference.  If we are
going to make fundraising goal for a spring conference (eg May) I don't
have a lot of time.  The website is the current focal point.

That said, I don't want to use something and then have GUADEC something
else.  It makes no sense to have two conferences using different software
so I want to push to have both GUADEC and LAS/GINA use the same software.
The other issue is that whatever we pick we are our on our own, from what I
understand GNOME sysadmins won't support any other conference software
other than whatever we used this year.  I wasn't happy with the experience
and I don't believe it is a scalable process.  OSEM is attractive as that I
will have support from a team and considering that we are co-locating two
conferences in the same location there is a slight bit of complexity.  If I
have to find hosting outside the GNOME infra, at least let me get it with
someone who is working to help me and is eager to help.  But if both
conferences use OSEM then perhaps we can convince sysadmin to host it on
our infra.

Lastly, we also have this -
https://github.com/openSUSE/travel-support-program, which will probably
help the travel committee when it comes to dealing with travel subsidies.
If all of this comes integrated then we save a lot of time for everyone.

In any case, I'm not excited by conference software, I'm interested in the
shortest time to getting something spun up and get things moving and having
the most support.  The good thing is that LAS will test any software before
GUADEC and smooth things over for the next team.

> Secondly, GNOME.Asia has already used OSEM for the past couple of
> > years.
> wait, what?  This is plain wrong.
>

It was true at some point, the OSEM website has GNOME logo as someone using
their software.

So, can we make a decision? :)

sri


> Cheers,
>   Tobi
>
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Re: [guadec-list] conference software

2017-10-20 Thread Tobias Mueller
Hi.

On Fri, 2017-10-20 at 01:26 +, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote:
> LAS is looking to move to a new conference software.  We would like to
> move to OSEM (http://osem.io/).  I realize there was some talk about
> using whatever FOSDEM is using, but honestly that software is 8 years
> old and nobody supports it.
What software are you talking about?
Frab? I don't have the impression that it's neither unmaintained nor not
supported. In fact, it sets standards when it comes to an open format
for the conference's schedules.
https://github.com/frab/frab

>From what I can see, it's used very extensively by important European
conferences (FOSDEM, FrOSCon, CCCongress, PrivacyWeek, ...).

>   There is 5-6 dedicated people for OSEM.
But is anybody actually using it? Besides the people themselves for
openSuSE Conference.

>   So, I'm hoping to make an executive decision and move to OSEM.
What's your reasoning so far?

> Secondly, GNOME.Asia has already used OSEM for the past couple of
> years.
wait, what?  This is plain wrong.

Cheers,
  Tobi
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