Re: Small change request to the manual page "Building from Git"

2022-10-10 Thread Mehmet Tekman
Oh right - then yes mentioning "guix git authenticate" outside of the
environment as a small note should be enough, I think.



Re: Small change request to the manual page "Building from Git"

2022-10-10 Thread Mehmet Tekman
Sorry for the message duplication, it's the default with my email provider.

If "guix shell -D guix --pure" is included in the new version of the
manual, then I'm more than happy to drop my suggestion.
Thanks for the extra context, and the general tips!

Best,
Mehmet



Re: Small change request to the manual page "Building from Git"

2022-10-10 Thread Mehmet Tekman
Hello,

> Try "guix environment guix --pure guix" or "guix shell guix -D guix" instead.

Yes I understand, but the manual states that:

> The following command starts a new shell **where all the dependencies and 
> appropriate environment variables are set up to hack on Guix**:
> guix environment guix --pure

This gives the impression that everything needed for `make
authenticate' to work is included in the above command (and I guess it
would be on the native distro).

I think a small sentence mentioning the extra Guix dependency for
non-native users isn't completely unwarranted, or perhaps maybe a hint
in the linked "invoking guix environment" page?

> Despite the name on Reddit, the name is Guix, not GUIX.

Noted, thank you

> Also, assuming you have installed the Guix daemon with your foreign distro's 
> package manager, this is a bug in the foreign distro's packaging, see 
> <https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1012536> in case of Debian.
> You could ask your distro to do a similar fix.

Thanks, I'll report this to the package maintainer!

Best,
Mehmet



On Sun, 9 Oct 2022 at 11:08, Maxime Devos  wrote:
>
> On 06-10-2022 15:35, Mehmet Tekman wrote:
> > Hi there,
> >
> > I'd like to request some small changes be made on this page:
> >  > https://guix.gnu.org/manual/en/html_node/Building-from-Git.html
> > <https://guix.gnu.org/manual/en/html_node/Building-from-Git.html>
> >
> > 1. Authenticating on a foreign distro
> >
> > When at the "make authenticate" stage of the build process on a foreign
> > distro, this fails because it cannot find guix.
> > I think it's because the `guix environment guix --pure' command doesn't
> > include it, or obscures its path.
> >
> > As a workaround, I ran `PATH=/usr/local/bin/:$PATH make authenticate'
>
> "guix environment guix" only includes the dependencies of guix, not Guix
> itself.  Try "guix environment guix --pure guix" or "guix shell guix -D
> guix" instead.
>
> "guix environment guix --pure" does indeed 'obscure its path' -- that's
> what --pure is for, if you don't want that, don't include --pure.
>
> Both of these are independent of whether you are on a foreign distro or
> Guix System.
>
> > 2. Easy fix for failing `make check' tests
> >
> > I had a few failing tests on my foreign distro relating to setting locales.
> > Digging around led me to this reddit thread for the solution:
> >> https://old.reddit.com/r/GUIX/comments/jpq1uw/bashminimal507binbash_warning_setlocale_lc_all/
> >
> > Here they suggest running `sudo guix install glibc-locales` instead of as a 
> > user.
> > Maybe this should be mentioned, since I'm not the only one coming to GUIX 
> > from another distro.
>
> Despite the name on Reddit, the name is Guix, not GUIX.
>
> Also, assuming you have installed the Guix daemon with your foreign
> distro's package manager, this is a bug in the foreign distro's
> packaging, see
> <https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1012536> in case of
> Debian.  You could ask your distro to do a similar fix.
>
> Greetings,
> Maxime.



Small change request to the manual page "Building from Git"

2022-10-08 Thread Mehmet Tekman
Hi there,

I'd like to request some small changes be made on this page:
> https://guix.gnu.org/manual/en/html_node/Building-from-Git.html

1. Authenticating on a foreign distro

When at the "make authenticate" stage of the build process on a foreign
distro, this fails because it cannot find guix.
I think it's because the `guix environment guix --pure' command doesn't
include it, or obscures its path.

As a workaround, I ran `PATH=/usr/local/bin/:$PATH make authenticate'

Seems simple enough, but might cause some trouble for inexperienced users
such as myself who might not know whether or not the environment command
was an optional step.

2. Easy fix for failing `make check' tests

I had a few failing tests on my foreign distro relating to setting locales.
Digging around led me to this reddit thread for the solution:
>
https://old.reddit.com/r/GUIX/comments/jpq1uw/bashminimal507binbash_warning_setlocale_lc_all/

Here they suggest running `sudo guix install glibc-locales` instead of as a
user.
Maybe this should be mentioned, since I'm not the only one coming to GUIX
from another distro.


Thanks otherwise for the fantastic manual,
Best,
M