Re: [h-cost] elizabethan dress trim question
> > http://costumes.glittersweet.com/sca/valois.htm > I remember when you posted about the jewelry some time ago. I really liked > what you did. I've been wanting to do something similar to your jewelry for > my Tudor project, but all I can seem to find are just the flat brass > findings. That just doesn't give me the "weight" of the gold jewelry seen > in the paintings. Where did you find the other findings that you used to > give the jewelry a richer feel? Thanks:) Basically I just layered pieces up until they felt about right. So it's really just a matter of hunting down bits and pieces and keeping them on hand. I'm slightly annoyed as at the time I couldn't find those plaque bracelets that had been everywhere shortly before. I know Avon made one... Well I did find one, but it was $30 which was a tad steep considering I would have needed more than 3;) The layers go: brooch pin: Spotlight (25NZc each) filigree brass bit: Spotlight ($NZ1.75 each) bracelet plaque with "gem" : e Thing (like a dollar store) ($NZ3 for each bracelet with 6 or more useable plaques) I now have 22 brooches. The pearls I used are all glass, and weigh a fair bit as well;) 44 pearl knots of 47 pearls each... But it does seem to give a good pull to the costume... They too came from a dollar stoore. The larger pearls on the carcanet and girdle were $NZ3 a strand (fairly standard size, to the collar bone) the smaller $NZ2 per strand. It took four strands to make five knots. I'm also looking to see if I can get some of my plaque belts and other findings electroplated into a nice bright brass. Luckily one of the companies that did the electroplating for some Lord of the Rings mail is fairly close by. I'm going to see if I can get my silver mug replated at the same time. I would use more of the filigree bits for my carcanet and girdle, but it took nearly a year for the nearest Spotlight store to get more of the ones I used;) I may have to order some in if the wait time isn't too bad. regards, michaela de bruce http://glittersweet.com -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.16/50 - Release Date: 15/07/2005 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Re: Vol 4, Issue 462
> >Oh, jeez, don't get me started. If I had a dollar for every fat > SCAdian > >woman who seems to think that _huge_ clothes are somehow more > >modest/flattering/who knows what than clothes that fit, I would be > a wealthy woman. A fat, wealthy, well-dressed woman. Here! here! I second that! .LOL!! AS for men in suits GEt em taylored guys! you look beter and we women notice these things! LOL TEh better teh Fit the more women notice.. Rrra IMHO Satine... - Yahoo! Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Re: bjarne
Back in 1985-86, for a couple of terms, I was a junior mistress in the boarding house of a private girls school in Toowoomba, which is a large country town on the top of a mountain range, a couple of hours drive west of Brisbane. ( Winter is looong - lasts for about 6 months of the year - and cold and windy, being on the top of a mountain. Even in summer you never went anywhere at night without taking a jacket. ) The Headmistress of boarding had only been in Toowoomba for a couple of years, having come from Southport, on the Gold Coast. ( Think California - beaches, lots of deep tans. ) She had two teenage sons, who came with her to Toowoomba. She told me that when they moved to Toowoomba, her oldest son commented to her about how beautiful girls' skins were. He had never seen so many rose petal complexions! ( I was impressed that a teenage boy noticed! ) But it was true, the girls had lovely skin. Generally skins were much fairer and less weathered than on people who lived in less chilly areas, I think mostly because it was too cold to spend much time out of doors during the winter months. I know that personally, after two years of living there, I had lovely pale skin, but within two weeks of moving back to Brisbane, I was tanned again, without trying to tan. :-( Joannah. --- Robert Uhl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Will untanned skin become fashionable again as a sign you take the > extra time to hide your skin from the sun? One can only hope so. There's nothing quite so pretty as a fair-skinned girl with a rosy blush to her cheeks! _ Sluggy.Net: The Sluggy Freelance Community! ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Italian cotehardie/GFD question
Robin, I know that Italian garb isn't your regular focus of interest, but I have a question about 2 paintings . http://www.wga.hu/art/g/giottino/pieta.jpg http://www.wga.hu/art/g/giovanni/milano/birth.jpg The first by Giottino was painted in 1365; the second by Giovanni da Milano was also painted in 1365. The "inverse scoop" neckline seems to be common in Italian garb, but the question is about the bicolor gowns -- the donor lady in black and grey in the Pieta, and the red and cream in the Birth of the Virgin. I'm thinking that since both of these women are spectators or donors rather than Saints, that this just might be "Real Clothes." Even though your area of expertise *isn't* Italian, what your thoughts on these gowns are. (for more info on the paintings go to http://www.wga.hu/html/g/giottino/pieta.html http://www.wga.hu/html/g/giovanni/milano/birth.html Thanks! Susan - Susan Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Tennessee Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology http://www.goldsword.com/sfarmer/Trillium/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Re: bjarne
Hi Joannah, Interresting thoaght, but i was a little confused because of the headder in the post. Bjarne - Original Message - From: "Joannah Hansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 4:49 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Re: bjarne Back in 1985-86, for a couple of terms, I was a junior mistress in the boarding house of a private girls school in Toowoomba, which is a large country town on the top of a mountain range, a couple of hours drive west of Brisbane. ( Winter is looong - lasts for about 6 months of the year - and cold and windy, being on the top of a mountain. Even in summer you never went anywhere at night without taking a jacket. ) The Headmistress of boarding had only been in Toowoomba for a couple of years, having come from Southport, on the Gold Coast. ( Think California - beaches, lots of deep tans. ) She had two teenage sons, who came with her to Toowoomba. She told me that when they moved to Toowoomba, her oldest son commented to her about how beautiful girls' skins were. He had never seen so many rose petal complexions! ( I was impressed that a teenage boy noticed! ) But it was true, the girls had lovely skin. Generally skins were much fairer and less weathered than on people who lived in less chilly areas, I think mostly because it was too cold to spend much time out of doors during the winter months. I know that personally, after two years of living there, I had lovely pale skin, but within two weeks of moving back to Brisbane, I was tanned again, without trying to tan. :-( Joannah. --- Robert Uhl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Will untanned skin become fashionable again as a sign you take the extra time to hide your skin from the sun? One can only hope so. There's nothing quite so pretty as a fair-skinned girl with a rosy blush to her cheeks! _ Sluggy.Net: The Sluggy Freelance Community! ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Future garments again
Do you suppose that in the next 20 or 30 years India and China will become important world powers, and start driving more fashion trends instead of being places the US goes to have things made cheap? As for outsourcing garment manufacture, I think the US will continue doing it, but somewhere other than in those countries if wages rise there. Fran Lavolta Press Books on Historic Costuming http://www.lavoltapress.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Future garments again
Hello, I do think that India and China will become much more influential in the next 20-30 years, and not just in fashion. (Don't get me started on the state of education in this country. I'm constantly appalled at the simple words and concepts of which my university junior and seniors have no knowledge. Examples, 'calendrical', 'intimate', and 'monarchy') US companies will continue to shop around for the best deal in apparel production, because the majority of the market in the US is in the budget/ low-end range. People are not willing to spend the money on higher priced/ higher quality garments. It's simple economics, really. It's why I try my hardest to avoid the box stores when possible. Companies like LL Bean and Pendleton have found niche markets catering to a customer that desires a higher quality at a higher price. Unless things have changed recently, both companies manufacture mostly in the US, with the exception of a few items. YMMV, Althea On Saturday, July 16, 2005, at 09:40 AM, Lavolta Press wrote: Do you suppose that in the next 20 or 30 years India and China will become important world powers, and start driving more fashion trends instead of being places the US goes to have things made cheap? As for outsourcing garment manufacture, I think the US will continue doing it, but somewhere other than in those countries if wages rise there. Althea Turner *** [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** http://www.alfalfapress.com Reunite Pangaea! It is proof of a base and low mind for one to wish to think with the masses or majority, merely because the majority is the majority. Truth does not change because it is, or is not, believed by a majority of the people. - Giordano Bruno Oh, good. Symbols on the floor. That always goes well. - Gunn ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] _huge_ clothes (Was Future ware(gloves))
Have you considered making a square-necked kirtle (ala Lady Burghley) and then having it open/close down the center front (at least to the waist) with either hooks and eyes or lacing? That way you could open it for breast feeding and hook/lace it back together for wearing. If you made it snug fitting, it would probably give you decent support too. No personal experience in the area, just an idea. Karen Seamstrix Kimiko writes: I love the thing and will be making another in a nicer fabric for next spring, along with a maternity kirtle (gotta figure out how to make the kirtle really usable for breastfeeding, first). Kimiko ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] Future garments again
Umm... As a long time Pendleton customer, at least for the fabric, and Pendleton, Oregon native I have to tell you that must of the clothing is actually manufactured in places like Mexico. The woolen fabric is woven here in Pendleton, Portland, and Washougal, WA, but the clothing is put together elsewhere. The Blankets are made here though! :-) The mill outlets are EVIL places. What you see is what you get; however when that happens you can get beautiful yardage for $10 a yard and under! On the other hand doesn't it seem like current western fashion (shirts, pants, etc.) have pretty much taken over from "traditional" garments? India is one of the few places where I see women in things like sari's, salwar's and cameeze. Even then the children are frequently in pants and shirts that look like they originally came from a US catalogue. Regina > snip< > It's why I try my hardest to avoid the box stores when possible. > Companies like LL Bean and Pendleton have found niche markets catering > to a customer that desires a higher quality at a higher price. Unless > things have changed recently, both companies manufacture mostly in the > US, with the exception of a few items. > > YMMV, > Althea > ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Future garments again
If we're talking 20-30 years from now, that's enough time for Indians to start a retro trend. Mybe not precisely traditional clothing but styles derived from it, or traditional fabrics made into nontraditional styles. Or maybe color influences, or several of the above. Fran Lavolta Press http://www.lavoltapress.com On the other hand doesn't it seem like current western fashion (shirts, pants, etc.) have pretty much taken over from "traditional" garments? India is one of the few places where I see women in things like sari's, salwar's and cameeze. Even then the children are frequently in pants and shirts that look like they originally came from a US catalogue. Regina ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Future garments again
Hello again :) Yes, Pendleton does do some off-shore production, but their emphasis is still on quality. I don't really know if this translates into higher wages/ better conditions for workers in Mexico. I should look into it. I'm sure one of my students will ask about it. :) There are other companies, such as Winter Sun, that produces off-shore but works very closely with the workers to create a unique garment and enrich (a Western concept, to be sure) their lives. This company also uses a local tree nut as the source of their buttons, which helps to preserve the local environment. So off-shore sourcing does not automatically means 'bad'. But it takes a LOT of work and time and money to bring it above slave wage. (oops, my bias is showing) As to Western dress in India, from what I have read, it is usually the males that adopt world dress first. We already have many influences making the way from India (sari fabric, mendhi (Sp)). I think it is rather unfortunate that one mode of dress is coming to dominate. There are so many beautiful styles of dress out there, especially the sari. Althea On Saturday, July 16, 2005, at 10:46 AM, Wanda Pease wrote: Umm... As a long time Pendleton customer, at least for the fabric, and Pendleton, Oregon native I have to tell you that must of the clothing is actually manufactured in places like Mexico. The woolen fabric is woven here in Pendleton, Portland, and Washougal, WA, but the clothing is put together elsewhere. The Blankets are made here though! :-) The mill outlets are EVIL places. What you see is what you get; however when that happens you can get beautiful yardage for $10 a yard and under! On the other hand doesn't it seem like current western fashion (shirts, pants, etc.) have pretty much taken over from "traditional" garments? India is one of the few places where I see women in things like sari's, salwar's and cameeze. Even then the children are frequently in pants and shirts that look like they originally came from a US catalogue. Regina snip< It's why I try my hardest to avoid the box stores when possible. Companies like LL Bean and Pendleton have found niche markets catering to a customer that desires a higher quality at a higher price. Unless things have changed recently, both companies manufacture mostly in the US, with the exception of a few items. YMMV, Althea ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume Althea Turner *** [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** http://www.alfalfapress.com Reunite Pangaea! It is proof of a base and low mind for one to wish to think with the masses or majority, merely because the majority is the majority. Truth does not change because it is, or is not, believed by a majority of the people. - Giordano Bruno Oh, good. Symbols on the floor. That always goes well. - Gunn ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Future garments again
Regina wrote: On the other hand doesn't it seem like current western fashion (shirts, pants, etc.) have pretty much taken over from "traditional" garments? India is one of the few places where I see women in things like sari's, salwar's and cameeze. Even then the children are frequently in pants and shirts that look like they originally came from a US catalogue. That certainly depends on where you live. I recently moved from Jackson Heights (Queens County, New York City), after almost 30 years there. The place is often referred to as "Little India" and traditional clothes are pretty common except for the kids, who mostly dress like the other kids. The heavy shopping strip consists of: sari/salwar suit store, restaurant, jewelry store, video store, appliance store, repeat, repeat, repeat. The wedding stuff is just amazing. Sundays are the best, when the adult women break out their best saris and kameezes to go out to eat. The fabric and embroidery are to die for. -Helen/Aidan ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Future garments again
If you've seen sari fabric used in mainstream Western clothes (I know it's popular for historic costumes), tell me where to buy the clothes! What do you mean by mendhi? What I've been seeing in Indian influences is in the "boho/gypsy/hippie" revival imitating the fashions of the late 1960s and the 1970s. For example, the ebay seller "hipsexychic" sells beautiful crinkle cotton "gypsy skirts" in ombre, various colors being available. I don't know what she has up right now, and she's not around on weekends, but anyone who wants to see them could try searching her listings and/or emailing her on Monday. She's by no means the only eBay seller I've seen with "gypsy" skirts of some sort, but I've bought some of hers and know they are lovely (though not yet how well they wash). I've also seen a lot of embroidered kurtas/kurti/Indian tunics of varying degrees of quality, some made in India, some commissioned by US manufacturers (I have two great ones in medium-weight linen made [very well] in China that I bought at a local Ross store). If anyone can tell me where to buy really high-quality embroidered Indian kurtas for women (without mirror work, which I hate), I'd be glad. However, in US sales venues these skirts and tunics are all labeled as "boho," etc., as a revival of a US/British/possibly European style. As Western retro, in other words. I've noticed that various Indian sellers are happy to leap on the bandwagon, but I'm not sure you could call this a recent trend that started in India. If this trend continues, I also expect shortly (maybe next summer) to see the embroidered Eastern European style "peasant blouses," of the 1970s, and possibly kebayas, a 1970s trend that some people are also trying to revive in Indonesia. Fran Lavolta Press http://www.lavoltapress.com We already have many influences making the way from India (sari fabric, mendhi (Sp)). I think it is rather unfortunate that one mode of dress is coming to dominate. There are so many beautiful styles of dress out there, especially the sari. Althea ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Indian clothing was: Future garments again
addresses please! All I can find is 'Little India' in Islin, NJ. And most of those stores sell the VERY high prices stuff, and polyester stuff. I am looking for more choli's in cotton - not that nasty polyester or knit. Katheryne -- That certainly depends on where you live. I recently moved from Jackson Heights (Queens County, New York City), after almost 30 years there. The place is often referred to as "Little India" and traditional clothes are pretty common except for the kids, who mostly dress like the other kids. The heavy shopping strip consists of: sari/salwar suit store, restaurant, jewelry store, video store, appliance store, repeat, repeat, repeat. The wedding stuff is just amazing. Sundays are the best, when the adult women break out their best saris and kameezes to go out to eat. The fabric and embroidery are to die for. -Helen/Aidan ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Indian clothing was: Future garments again
Web addresses please, if there are any! Fran -- That certainly depends on where you live. I recently moved from Jackson Heights (Queens County, New York City), after almost 30 years there. The place is often referred to as "Little India" and traditional clothes are pretty common except for the kids, who mostly dress like the other kids. The heavy shopping strip consists of: sari/salwar suit store, restaurant, jewelry store, video store, appliance store, repeat, repeat, repeat. The wedding stuff is just amazing. Sundays are the best, when the adult women break out their best saris and kameezes to go out to eat. The fabric and embroidery are to die for. -Helen/Aidan ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] elizabethan dress trim question
At 07:27 AM 7/16/2005, you wrote: The layers go: brooch pin: Spotlight (25NZc each) filigree brass bit: Spotlight ($NZ1.75 each) bracelet plaque with "gem" : e Thing (like a dollar store) ($NZ3 for each bracelet with 6 or more useable plaques) <> Wow, thanks so much for sharing how all that went together. I see from doing a google search that your Spotlight store may be like some of our craft/fabric stores in the US. I will have to look outside the box so to speak to find something comparable, and start thinking differently on what can be used in what manner. Thanks again for sharing your work with us. I know I find it very inspiring. Kimiko ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] elizabethan dress trim question
At 11:36 PM 7/15/2005, you wrote: Be aware that Steve Millingham's pieces are very, very heavy, being pewter castings. I have worked with his jewellery, and in fact some of his Anne Boleyn and Henry Vlll pieces were originally designed for a customer of mine. You could also try http://www.anniethepedlar.com, who made all the pieces for my Elizabeth figure. She works in brass, and will custom make. I would always use her pieces as a first choice. Suzi www.suziclarke.co.uk Thank you Suzi for sharing that with me. I was looking at his work, because I am looking for the jewelry to recreate Mary Tudor Brandon's jewelry in her marriage portrait. http://www.uvm.edu/~hag/sca/tudor/marytudor.jpg His was very close in the ouches that he made for the Princess Elizabeth repros. I will check out Annie the Pedlar as well. I've heard her name very favorably. Thanks again, Kimiko ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] _huge_ clothes (Was Future ware(gloves))
At 10:32 AM 7/16/2005, you wrote: Have you considered making a square-necked kirtle (ala Lady Burghley) and then having it open/close down the center front (at least to the waist) with either hooks and eyes or lacing? That way you could open it for breast feeding and hook/lace it back together for wearing. If you made it snug fitting, it would probably give you decent support too. No personal experience in the area, just an idea. Karen Seamstrix Thanks Karen. I like the idea and will see if it will work for me. I originally was thinking something high necked, but with the surcoat it really doesn't have to be. Kimiko ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] elizabethan dress trim question
At 08:18 PM 7/15/2005, you wrote: I agree that Steve Millingham's work is really fabulous but if your budget doesn't stretch that far look at http://www.sapphireandsage.com/index.html especially the portrait reproduction section, whilst these are not exact replicas (as she doesn't make her own settings) they do a very good job of imitating the style fairly closely (I'm lusting after the reproduction of Princess Mary Tudor's necklaces) the "Queen Elizabeth I" Cluster Necklace (under portrait reproductions) is fairly similar to this portrait http://www.photo.rmn.fr/c/htm/CSearchZ.aspx?o=&Total=2&FP=3825164&E=22S39UNTBJPH&SID=22S39UNTBJPH&New=T&Pic=2&SubE=2C6NU0XQAIT8 (or the short version http://snipurl.com/gagx) which is Spanish from the same era (I found it via Michaela's page) but if you're doing a large ruff a collar close to the neck may not show up very well. Alternately, some of the other examples show just a long strand of pearls (I use one short & one long strand of fake pearls with a pendant tied onto the shorter one) HTH Elizabeth Thank you Elizabeth for the suggested site. I see she already has a repro of the jewelry I am looking for. However, this is more a secondary choice, as I would prefer the jewelry to look "thicker" and richer than what she has done, more like the paintings if possible. I also need "ouches" or something similar for the hats I am working on, which is even more tricky in some ways as they have to stay on the edge of buckram and wires, instead of flat on a neckline. The eventual gown to go with the dress is mid 1540s Tudor style for Eleanore Brandon, with no ruff (too early for them) just lots of bare chest area (and a partlet depending on season). The collar and carcenet will work well with that. When I do Elizabethans I do wear more pearl strands, especially as my character's husband brings them back from raiding the Spanish galleons when successful (gotta love an actual historical Pirate Earl). Eventually I will try to recreate that character's gown covered in pearls, when I can determine more about what it would look like. http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/images/Russell,Margaret(CCumberland).jpg Kimiko Kimiko Small http://www.kimiko1.com Fresno, CA, USA "Lady of the Wardrobe" for Isle of Mann Guild Portraying at California's Central Valley Renaissance Faires Lady Clifford, Countess of Cumberland (Margaret Percy, Eleanor Brandon, or Margaret Russell) ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Indian clothing was: Future garments again
It's unofficially "Little India", although there was a move to make it official several years ago, including changing the street signs to be changed into Taj Mahal shapes... Jackson Heights is a historical district (turn of the last century original garden apartments), and the change didn't fly. "Little India" occupies part of the commercial district. Jackson Heights is in north Queens. The stores are mostly on 74th St between Roosevelt Ave and 37th Ave, on 37th Ave between about 72nd and 77th Sts, some more under the el (Roosevelt), and a bit on the other side streets. There is a stop on the subway right on the corner for several subway lines - the station is called Roosevelt Ave - 74th St - the Flushing train and the Jamaica/Forest Hills trains all stop there. (The Flushing train is an elevated line, the others are below ground.) Driving is also possible, but parking is scarce, the spaces are metered, the parking police are clairvoyant, and the traffic can be brutal. One of the biggest stores is called India Sari Palace, at 37-07 74th St; most are smaller. There is also another shopping area in Flushing near Main St and Kissena, and one in Jamaica. I've been in Pittsburgh for almost three years now, but I doubt the neighborhood has changed much. If you go, give it a few hours, and have lunch/dinner at the Jackson Diner (on 74th St, halfway down the block). Despite the name, it is an Indian restaurant. It started in an old diner down the block and they never changed the sign. About 7 years ago, they moved to the old Woolworths, where there is room. --Helen/Aidan ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] elizabethan dress trim question
Kimiko wrote: I also need "ouches" or > something similar for the hats I am working on OK, I'll bite- what are "ouches"? -Helen/Aidan ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] elizabethan dress trim question
At 06:15 PM 7/16/2005, you wrote: Kimiko wrote: I also need "ouches" or > something similar for the hats I am working on OK, I'll bite- what are "ouches"? -Helen/Aidan That's what the creator (Steve Millingham) of the jewelry replicas calls "dress jewels (ouches) ". I am not sure why he calls them that, as in I haven't seen a source for the name other than at his site. http://www.tudorjewels.com/princess%20elizabeth.htm First jewelry pic you come across. It's what I want for the jewelry I am looking to get. Kimiko ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] elizabethan dress trim question
Thanks, I recognize the item (way late for me), but I never heard the term before. Maybe it refers to the noise your wallet makes after you've acquired enough for the outfit? -Helen/Aidan ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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> > > > http://www.earthlydelights.com.au/Images/colourpics/8486.jpg ? And do > > > > OOh! I've never seen that painting before! Do you have more information > > about it? > > http://sayaespanola.glittersweet.com/main.htm Yet another painting question. While I was cruising this web site, I found another painting that interests me -- it's on the http://sayaespanola.glittersweet.com/inspired.htm page -- 5th painting from the left -- the URL for the painting is http://www.bildindex.de/bilder/fmlac10780_28a.jpg I"ve been searching bildindex.de for 2 days trying to get some information on this painting -- and I can't figure out how to make it give it to me! I suspect that it's a self-portrait of Lavinia Fontana, but I'm not certain -- she is holding a paint palette and brushes -- and the eyes aren't right for it to be Sofonisba -- although it could be one of her sisters. Help! Pretty please? :-) Susan - Susan Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Tennessee Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology http://www.goldsword.com/sfarmer/Trillium/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] elizabethan dress trim question
It's not just his term: http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=ouch Anybody else finished the new Harry Potter yet? Yowser! KP Kimiko Small <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: At 06:15 PM 7/16/2005, you wrote: >Kimiko wrote: >> I also need "ouches" or > something similar for the hats I am working on > >OK, I'll bite- what are "ouches"? > -Helen/Aidan That's what the creator (Steve Millingham) of the jewelry replicas calls "dress jewels (ouches) ". I am not sure why he calls them that, as in I haven't seen a source for the name other than at his site. http://www.tudorjewels.com/princess%20elizabeth.htm First jewelry pic you come across. It's what I want for the jewelry I am looking to get. Kimiko ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] elizabethan dress trim question
On Saturday 16 July 2005 11:20 pm, Kathryn Parke wrote: [snip] > Anybody else finished the new Harry Potter yet? Yowser! Yes, I have and yes, Yowser! indeed. And if we say more we'll likely be lynched--and not just because it's grossly off-topic. :-) -- Cathy Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "So what if the universe is a pointless mass of hydrogen refuse powered by entropy. I'm spreading ketchup on a rubber duck, and after that I'm going to brush its teeth. So there."-- Rob Landley ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] elizabethan dress trim question
>Kimiko wrote: >> I also need "ouches" or > something similar for the hats I am working on > >OK, I'll bite- what are "ouches"? > -Helen/Aidan That's what the creator (Steve Millingham) of the jewelry replicas calls "dress jewels (ouches) ". I am not sure why he calls them that, as in I haven't seen a source for the name other than at his site. http://www.tudorjewels.com/princess%20elizabeth.htm First jewelry pic you come across. It's what I want for the jewelry I am looking to get. Steve Millingham got the word from my customer who got it from me, who got it from Annie the Pedlar who did the research for my Elizabeth figure. I imagine she has sources for it, as she did a great deal of research before making the jewellery for me. Suzi mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] elizabethan dress trim question
At 08:35 PM 7/16/2005, you wrote: Steve Millingham got the word from my customer who got it from me, who got it from Annie the Pedlar who did the research for my Elizabeth figure. I imagine she has sources for it, as she did a great deal of research before making the jewellery for me. Suzi I would love to know the source. It's an amusing name for them. Kimiko ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] elizabethan dress trim question
Yup. In one straight shot, this morningalthough I did get a couple of chapters into it last night, after I walked home from the bookstore. (What can I say? I'm Auld. I fell asleep! ;o) Wow, what a book. Hope we don't have to wait two years for the next one. OCC: I'm thinking of an outfit to wear to the final release, whenever that happens. Think I'll do a take on some sort of historical witch's robes--Elizabethan gone funky, maybe, so I could be one of the "portraits" at Hogwarts --sue Kathryn Parke wrote: It's not just his term: http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=ouch Anybody else finished the new Harry Potter yet? Yowser! KP Kimiko Small <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: At 06:15 PM 7/16/2005, you wrote: Kimiko wrote: I also need "ouches" or > something similar for the hats I am working on OK, I'll bite- what are "ouches"? -Helen/Aidan That's what the creator (Steve Millingham) of the jewelry replicas calls "dress jewels (ouches) ". I am not sure why he calls them that, as in I haven't seen a source for the name other than at his site. http://www.tudorjewels.com/princess%20elizabeth.htm First jewelry pic you come across. It's what I want for the jewelry I am looking to get. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
