Re: [h-cost] Re: Crisps?
michaela wrote: It goes like this: US/UK/NZ french fries/chips/chips chips/crisps/chips I love living in NZ. When you say you are having chips for lunch, it's all in the context. Well, sometimes we say hot chips to distinguish the one kind from the other. And some people in the South Island say crisps. -- Adele de Maisieres - Habeo metrum - musicamque, hominem meam. Expectat alium quid? -Georgeus Gershwinus - ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
AW: [h-cost] Boning/reeds yet again
Have used a reed/steel combination for my fully boned 18th century stays. Even though I used steel only at strategic places (all channels where pieces were joined together, 4 pieces in front to simulate a small busk and of course at the back where the lacing is) it is quite heavy. I bought reed at www.sillysisters.com and I'm very satisfied. Plus points of reed are that it is light, fairly cheap and can be shaped easily both in length and width. I do not have any problems with the reed breaking while wearing it, but this might be different if the stays are not fully boned. The only problem is that you have to be careful when inserting the reed in the channels - don't use too much force! Have fun with the new stays! Michaela I'm bracing myself to do yet another corset with tabs. This time I would like to use something besides steel because the steels that go down into the tabs from the corset itself tend to bend and stay bent. Besides, they are expensive. I happen to have some real whale bone, both as stay size pieces and as an entire frond. The young man who gave me the stays told me don't ask, but I suspect they came from Japan. The small frond I got on E-Bay and came with a certificate that it was gotten pre-ban and legally. I got it mainly so I could have something to show when teaching. Problem is that once you have handled the real thing you aren't going to be impressed with cable ties as a substitute. So reeds/broom straw seems a better answer. I know that several people have used reed successfully. How big? Where did you get it? Either this or maybe a nice broom and lots of quilting thread? I did check the archives, but didn't see exactly what I was looking for. Do I want 1/4 oval, 1.5mm round reed, 1mm round reed? Broom? One reason I particularly want a new corset is because I have done something to my back. On 12th night I knew I was going to be wearing a 35 pound houpeland (BIG Sleeves, Velvet lined with light weight wool, full circle) and was willing to bet my back was not going to be happy. I put on my Tudor corset made from the corset generator pattern with added tabs and was comfortable for 18 hours! I'm beginning to think this is what I want for work as well. I'm pleasingly plump ;-) and a B cup but I have _hips_ (bum roll? what bum roll?) so the tiny waist immediately flairs out to quite substantial hips (weebles wobble, but they don't fall down.) This means that the tabs are a point of considerable strain for any stiffening. Wanda Pease/Regina Romsey Never attribute to malice what can as easily be attributed to simple social ineptness ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] extant wardrobe inventories
I've seen the word Exant. What does this mean in costume terms? - Original Message - From: Robin Netherton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 5:44 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] extant wardrobe inventories On Mon, 30 Jan 2006, Cin wrote: The number of extant inventories, etc. out there that have never been studied is practically criminal. One of the defining moments in my life was holding Edward II's wardrobe inventory -- the original volume -- and Cool! I had no idea one even existed! ...and then I put it back on the shelf between the inventories of Edward I and Edward III. Each volume was about 3-4 inches thick, IIRC. Public service reminder: Drool is not good for keyboards. ;-) Wouldnt it be cool to Wiki a never-before annotated inventory? Even tho most of us are just amateurs fashion fans, I'm sure we'd have some interesting things to say on so many topics. While none of us could complete the task, we'd make a nice start. Unfortunately we'd have to start with transcription and translation. I can read 14th c. handwriting, but this was clerical chickenscratch, by multiple hands, in a mishmash of French, Latin, and English, with arcane abbreviations thrown in. You can't analyze the words till you know what they are. And a good lot of the work involves figuring out the dates, quantities, and monetary amounts, which (if I remember right) were recorded in roman numerals. I think part of the reason this has gone undone is that you can't figure out what the words are if you don't know the costume terminology of the period (in all three languages). Paleographers tend not to be costume scholars; they are more likely to work on documents that are deemed less specialist, or that require specialist knowledge in areas that are important enough to people to justify developing a specialty. The person who showed me the inventories -- an independent scholar -- had spent decades reading wills and inventories and legal documents on behalf of people who needed research done in genealogy and heraldry. (He developed a reasonable familiarity with costume terms because of the nature of that work, but I would guess costume research doesn't pay the bills the way family history or heraldic research does.) --Robin ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] extant wardrobe inventories
At 04:44 AM 1/31/2006, you wrote: I've seen the word Exant. What does this mean in costume terms? [snip] It just means that the inventory of the wardrobe still exists. We don't have very many extant (i.e., surviving) clothing pieces. Joan Jurancich [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] extant wardrobe inventories
In costume or any other terms, extant means still in existence. Kate Bunting Librarian and 17th century reenactor [EMAIL PROTECTED] 31/01/2006 12:44 I've seen the word Exant. What does this mean in costume terms? __ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Re: 18c stays
Hi Mia, The petticoat is cotton, but with a nice sateen to it. I thought it would at least imitate the look of silk to a certain extent. I'd really like to have a more authentic pair of stays before starting a second outfit. I've been thinking about trying to draft my own pattern - but haven't been really sure where to start. The other question, is whether to use the plastic boning, or go the metal route... and then which type... and how does one get the right sizes? Tin-snips? I've already purchased a yard of duck-cloth, and a couple of yards of cotton twill in white and red. I'm just doing this to do it. I suppose I could use it for halloween next year... although a couple people have suggested using it as a wedding dress. I made my own dress for my first marriage, so I've been trying to avoid thinking about the possibility of making another one... although I do have about 10 yards of some gorgeous white cotton damask. Hmmm... a sacque? I suppose, once I get more comfortable making several items, I may risk making something out of silk... but until then, I'll stick with what's affordable. Kristin Oh stays..., I've done several, but since I'm an active reenactor, and trying to progress to a more authentic reenactor, my solutions, might not be your solutions. Like I said, the butterick pattern seems to be good, especially for 3rd quarter or so 18th c. Making 18c stays is not as hard as one might think. just somewhat time consuming. And I always have challenges with the fit. For the stays I've done I've, 1. used the J.P Ryan patterns (very nice- and gives that good ice cream cone shape.) I used metal and cable ties and that stringy box binding stuff that is almost like whale bone...this is not a good description, but I really don't know how to do better. These were really nice. 2. used the later 18c pattern from Hunnicut, and blew it up on a copy machine. these were nice too. I used basket cane and metal bones at the stress points. These were nice too 3. Back to JP Ryan for the pattern, bound in leather, wool covered, fully boned, cable ties and metal in stress points, cane everywhere else. They are really beautiful. 3. on the table to do now. the butterick pattern, cut out in linen, will be halfboned with ? All done on the machine For me basket caning works, but i am frequently out in the heat of a North Carolina Summer. Anything Plastic just doesn't breathe enough for me. I've never had a piece of cane break. and boy does it support!! Choice of patterns ...JP Ryan is good, the butterick is good. I don't have the skills to draft one from scratch and have it come out looking like I want it to. Again all these choices are based on where you are wearing it, and what you want it for. Costume and just for fun has different needs than reenactor and museum work. 18c Mia in Charlotte, NC where there is no sign of winter. Boy i'm not looking forward to another hot summer... gotta get those linen stays done. - Bring words and photos together (easily) with PhotoMail - it's free and works with Yahoo! Mail. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Brit patterns
Hope someone can help me with this I am looking for a British pattern site that has patterns for the first quarter of the 19th C. (Jane Austin and company,) Had it once and have lost it. Kathleen ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Re: stay boning
I used 1/4 inch half round basket making reed. To me it came out nice looking. and It looks like the pictures's ive seen. Sometimes I used two strips in a channel, sometimes backed the reed with a piece of steel boning. The reed is really firm, especially the channels with two pieces. I've never been fortunate to really examine a pair of 18c stays close up, nor handeled any real whale bone. Also I've never seen the german false whalebone. I'm afraid it would spoil me Mia in Charlotte, NC - Yahoo! Autos. Looking for a sweet ride? Get pricing, reviews, more on new and used cars. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Visit to Tuscany
A good friend of mine is going to Tuscany in April and the gift-ideas-for-Brits made me wonder if anyone has suggestions for small gifts she can take that Italians might appreciate? Also, any must-see costume or embroidery resources in this area that she can checkout for me :)? Catherine ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] extant wardrobe inventories
What I want defined is Wiki. Janet In costume or any other terms, extant means still in existence. Kate Bunting Librarian and 17th century reenactor [EMAIL PROTECTED] 31/01/2006 12:44 I've seen the word Exant. What does this mean in costume terms? __ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
wiki (was Re: [h-cost] extant wardrobe inventories
Quoting JAMES OGILVIE [EMAIL PROTECTED]: What I want defined is Wiki. There's even a wiki entry for wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiki Susan - Susan Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Tennessee Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology http://www.goldsword.com/sfarmer/Trillium/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Re: Crisps?
In a message dated 1/31/2006 12:48:36 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It goes like this: US/UK/NZ french fries/chips/chips Well, at least we're not calling them freedom fries any more! Sheesh! ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] extant wardrobe inventories
Quoting JAMES OGILVIE [EMAIL PROTECTED]: What I want defined is Wiki. speculation -- Wiki-wiki is (I think) Hawaiian for quickly!) Wikipedia is an online editable Encyclopedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page There's also an SCA specific wikipedia out of Lochac (but you don't have to be from Lochac to post .) http://cunnan.sca.org.au/wiki/Main_Page Jerusha - Susan Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Tennessee Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology http://www.goldsword.com/sfarmer/Trillium/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Visit to Tuscany
Take me as a gift : ) I'm not small, but it would be great fun lol... Sorry couldn't help myself, going stir crazy in PA, Rhonda Rhonda Donaldson LTA II e-Reserves Jr. Guru Access Services Downtown Campus Library P O Box 6069 Morgantown, WV 26506 293-4040 x4094 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Without change, something sleeps inside us, and seldom awakens. The sleeper must awaken. --Frank Herbert Weiner's Law of Libraries: There are no answers, only cross-references. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/31/06 9:53 AM A good friend of mine is going to Tuscany in April and the gift-ideas-for-Brits made me wonder if anyone has suggestions for small gifts she can take that Italians might appreciate? Also, any must-see costume or embroidery resources in this area that she can checkout for me :)? Catherine ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Re: the virgin queen
Watched Episode 2 last night. The men's anachronistic breeches were more obvious this week (though I liked the tennis scenes), and, as someone commented, the women's skirts don't look as though they have enough support (perhaps the designers thought that farthingales would look as odd to modern eyes as they thought trunk-hose would). Kate Bunting Librarian and 17th century reenactor ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] extant wardrobe inventories
Hiya all. I am wondering if anyone know of any danish noble/royal inventories that are intact? We have had some major royal castle burnings, but could be they were stored elsewhere. I am especially looking for the 16'th century. Tania - Yahoo! Autos. Looking for a sweet ride? Get pricing, reviews, more on new and used cars. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Re: gifts for brits
We do have flavored crisps, but not the cool flavors from the UK. So worth it to get some :) Rhonda Donaldson LTA II e-Reserves Jr. Guru Access Services Downtown Campus Library P O Box 6069 Morgantown, WV 26506 293-4040 x4094 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Without change, something sleeps inside us, and seldom awakens. The sleeper must awaken. --Frank Herbert Weiner's Law of Libraries: There are no answers, only cross-references. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/30/06 5:32 PM the best present I ever got from the US was brought back by a friend who'd been back to see her folks- it was a bumper size pot of dried cat nip! fantastic as I just couldn't find it over here (short of growing it, which I now do (or try to, but the cats of course keep eating it)), IT IS an abomination!! I think white chocolate is pure evil disguised as confectionery!! white chocolate is fabulous - and a friend gave me a hot chocolate gift box from whittards of chelsea that had white hot chocolate in it - it's fabulous - honestly is like liquid milky bars and I'm addicted already (you can bet I'll be shaving up milky bars when I run out!!) I don't think they have Reese's Peanut Butter Cups, either. we do - have had them for years - you get them at woolworths (only place I've ever found them No brownies, either, although when I have a chance I make them over there to great cheers. That's fun, shopping for ingredients and trying to convert the measurements! you can get brownies, but they're not 'real' ones, according to an american friend who lives here. I bring; Irn Bru, yummy cheese, chocolates, Scottish Blend tea, Jaffa Cakes and different flavored crisps when I was little, we used to give irn bru to friends in the south, because you couldn't get it down there. you don't have flavoured crisps?? And full round to being on-topic, Brownies and Girl Scouts wear uniforms that have changed through the years with fashion. :-) yes, and wouldn't you know it whan I was a brownie the uniform was a horrible brown shirt dress that was about upper thigh length. and my girl guides uniform still had the horrid granny hat. debs ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Elizabethan Style, Nostalgic Needle, Sharon Cohen
At 5:46 PM -0500 1/30/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree with Ann. I used Safari on a Mac OS X and it was fine--pages loaded very quickly. The colors were quite nice for me, and the design of the pages was clear and consistent. I liked the stitch listings (is there really a stitch called bukkion, though? I'd have thought bullion, but I'm not an advanced student of embroidery! Order and contact information are really needed for this appetizing presentation. Yes, I think a bit of copy-editing is needed in a few places. I think I noticed splender (for splendor), acron (for acorn), and The inspiration for this sampler are... I gather that these kits are not available from the website directly? If they are, ordering info is definitely needed. If not, a link to some retailers who carry them would be much appreciated. -- OChris Laning [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Davis, California + http://paternoster-row.org - http://paternosters.blogspot.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Dress forms
To the person who was enquiring about dressforms ( I'm sorry, I don't remember who it was and I've deleted the original post ) I can't say that I have any experience with the dressform about which you were asking about, but you might find these links interesting/useful, especially if you don't fall into 'the norm' in shape or size: http://www.mytwindressforms.com/ http://www.taunton.com/threads/pages/t2_p2.asp - there are 4 different versions to have a look at. Joannah. _ Sluggy.Net: The Sluggy Freelance Community! ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] Re: Crisps?
And what is Irn Bru? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pierre Sandy Pettinger Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 9:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [h-cost] Re: Crisps? Crisps? Are these potato chips, crackers, or something else? English to English translation, pleaseg Sandy I bring; Irn Bru, yummy cheese, chocolates, Scottish Blend tea, Jaffa Cakes and different flavored crisps when I was little, we used to give irn bru to friends in the south, because you couldn't get it down there. you don't have flavoured crisps?? Those Who Fail To Learn History Are Doomed to Repeat It; Those Who Fail To Learn History Correctly -- Why They Are Simply Doomed. Achemdro'hm The Illusion of Historical Fact -- C.Y. 4971 Andromeda ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] extant wardrobe inventories
Something which continues to exist, that has escaped the ravages of time. (I just assumed you had made a little typo there..:) Sg Becky wrote: I've seen the word Exant. What does this mean in costume terms? - Original Message - From: Robin Netherton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 5:44 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] extant wardrobe inventories ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] gifts for Brits
Rhonda mentioned tablet - we don't even have that in England. I discovered it when I went to the Orkney Islands in 2003; the hotel gave us a square of it with our after-dinner coffee onstead of a mint. (It's a hard fudge made in blocks which can be broken into squares like a chocolate bar.) Kate Bunting Librarian and 17th century reenactor [EMAIL PROTECTED] 30/01/2006 18:29 wrote: What they REALLY don't have are Girl Scout cookies. I brought a couple boxes of thin mints one time, and the person who enjoyed them the most was an American who never seemed to visit his parents during cookie season. ?? You mean Americans have a particular season for eating cookies? __ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] boning - reed or cable ties
Hi Wanda I would recommend you track down what I've heard called 'artificial whalebone' - it comes in several different widths, from 4mm up to 12mm, has no ridges (like ridgeline)and when you sit down, it doesn't stay bent up at the front like ridgeline does. You have be able to find it quite cheaply if you are in the US - the supplier's I've contacted over here vary considerably. You can get it from either http://www.geocities.com/staymaker/index.htm http://www.venacavadesign.co.uk/ or from the manufacturer at http://www.wissner.de/eng/ I just noticed you can get it from Farthingales as 'German boning'. It's not as cheap as cable ties but it is as close to real whalebone as you'll get without that rather brittle tendency that sometimes happens. You can see how good it looks since it is used in The Staymaker's gallery of work. HTH Katherine (who's saving up for it right now) A positive attitude may not solve all of your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort - Herm Albright ___ To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Boning/reeds yet again
Wanda, I used 1/4 flat reeds from Weaving Works in Seattle, and have been really happy. They have a great selection of style and sizes of reeds, and are very reasonable. I spent under $10 for enough reed to do an entire corset, and I'm a woman of fine substantial size. HTH-- LuAnn in Vancouver - Original Message - From: Wanda Peasemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: H-Costumemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 7:16 PM Subject: [h-cost] Boning/reeds yet again I'm bracing myself to do yet another corset with tabs. This time I would like to use something besides steel because the steels that go down into the tabs from the corset itself tend to bend and stay bent. Besides, they are expensive. I happen to have some real whale bone, both as stay size pieces and as an entire frond. The young man who gave me the stays told me don't ask, but I suspect they came from Japan. The small frond I got on E-Bay and came with a certificate that it was gotten pre-ban and legally. I got it mainly so I could have something to show when teaching. Problem is that once you have handled the real thing you aren't going to be impressed with cable ties as a substitute. So reeds/broom straw seems a better answer. I know that several people have used reed successfully. How big? Where did you get it? Either this or maybe a nice broom and lots of quilting thread? I did check the archives, but didn't see exactly what I was looking for. Do I want 1/4 oval, 1.5mm round reed, 1mm round reed? Broom? One reason I particularly want a new corset is because I have done something to my back. On 12th night I knew I was going to be wearing a 35 pound houpeland (BIG Sleeves, Velvet lined with light weight wool, full circle) and was willing to bet my back was not going to be happy. I put on my Tudor corset made from the corset generator pattern with added tabs and was comfortable for 18 hours! I'm beginning to think this is what I want for work as well. I'm pleasingly plump ;-) and a B cup but I have _hips_ (bum roll? what bum roll?) so the tiny waist immediately flairs out to quite substantial hips (weebles wobble, but they don't fall down.) This means that the tabs are a point of considerable strain for any stiffening. Wanda Pease/Regina Romsey Never attribute to malice what can as easily be attributed to simple social ineptness ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.commailto:h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costumehttp://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Irn Bru
The national drink of Scotland lol. It is an orange colored soda that doesn't taste a thing like orange soda. It is truely different...and hard to explain. I like it tho. Tablet is a pure sugar rush - My Mom used to make it when we were kids and we called it fried fudge. Had no idea it was called butter tablet elsewhere. Rhonda Donaldson LTA II e-Reserves Jr. Guru Access Services Downtown Campus Library P O Box 6069 Morgantown, WV 26506 293-4040 x4094 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Without change, something sleeps inside us, and seldom awakens. The sleeper must awaken. --Frank Herbert Weiner's Law of Libraries: There are no answers, only cross-references. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/31/06 12:57 AM And what is Irn Bru? ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] OT -- tablet
Tablet is a pure sugar rush - My Mom used to make it when we were kids and we called it fried fudge. Had no idea it was called butter tablet elsewhere. I am very intrigued by this. Google is my friend: http://www3.sympatico.ca/scruss/tablet.html clear, step by step directions. Doesn't seem difficult, but it does sound tasty. I've tried, but I can't think if a single way to make this costume related! Denise ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] Re: Crisps?
And what is Irn Bru? Bright orange Scottish 'fruit' flavoured fizzy drink, 'made in Scotland from girders'. http://www.irn-bru.co.uk/ Debs ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
