RE: [h-cost] World Record says 15??? was: Corset Training for 13"
In the picture on the Guinness site, is she wearing a metal corset? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Katy Bishop Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 10:51 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] World Record says 15??? was: Corset Training for 13" She looks gruesome in person, her face is so tortured. I saw her about 10 years ago at a Victorian ball. Katy On 11/9/06, Joan Jurancich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 04:59 PM 11/9/2006, you wrote: > >It just happens to be Guiness World Record Day...they showed a spot > >on the local news which showed the current world record holders > >waist has expanded from 15 to 20! > > > > > >http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/records/human_body/extreme_bodies/small est_waist_on_a_living_person.aspx > > > >H > > > >Sg > > I must say I don't find her wasp-waist to be particularly > attractive. She looks like she might break in two in a high wind. > > > Joan Jurancich > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ___ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian [EMAIL PROTECTED]www.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Re: On Chopines
H-costumers, My new chopines have been finished for a month or so now. They're quite a challenge to walk in. They've got their own webpage, too. You can scroll thru and see how they were done. My chopines are the tall red ones. http://AandS.org/raisedheels/index.html I've started dancing in them, lately. Mostly bassedanza & pavans. --cin Cynthia Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 9/7/06, Cin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I was fitted for my new chopines last nite. You can see a picture of the cork structure with the undyed footbed, and my fabric here: http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/hysteria95126/my_photos The album is "Works in Progress". The chopines are part of the 2nd set. Woo-hoo I will soon ascend to the heights of fashion! BTW, ladies & gents, have you seen this? There's a lovely yellow velvet 16th c chopine 360' view with zoom. Look at the tooled leather footbed. That's different! The chopine's all covered in lace & silk ribbon bows. http://www.allaboutshoes.ca/en/heights_of_fashion/east_meets_west/ This is the Bata Shoe Museum's new online catalog. Oddly you cant get to All About Shoes from the Bata Shoe Museum's or the reverse. It's new, and that's the reason, I suppose. --cin Cynthia Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Osebergfunnet IV - Tekstilene
On Friday 10 November 2006 2:50 pm, Beth and Bob Matney wrote: > I have purchased books from both Fred Struthers and www.nordicartbooks.com > . The last time I talked to Fred, he was hesitant to carry the book because > of the expense and limited market. > > I could not find the book on Lena's website, so you will probably need to > email her, if you are interested. Yes. Lena e-mailed me because I'd made my request to Fred originally. I suspect that she would, however, sell a copy to other people who contact her directly, which is why I sent the e-mail to this list. > I got the book by mail-order shortly after it was published, but it was > difficult. I ended up sending the money to a friend in Norway who got it > converted to Kroners and paid cash at the gift-shop for me. (I am VERY > appreciate) At the end of the summer, we took our trip and I saw it for > sale at both the Historical Museum and the Ship Museum. They would then > take VISA or MC, but only in person (no mailorders). This we have found is > fairly typical of Museums over there. (As me about the problems I had with > an order from Germany sometime). If I remember right, the only other > alternative that I could find was a wire-transfer from a bank. This adds > significantly to the cost. I can send you more info (off list) if you want > to do this. Please do send me that information. I've already told Lena I can't pay $250 for it (and from what I've heard from a Norwegian friend who's seen it, I might not want to), but I might pay the Norwegian price. Thanks. -- Cathy Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "A civilized society is one which tolerates eccentricity to the point of doubtful sanity." --Robert Frost ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] What was that? Kyle Minogue dress at fragrance debut
Did anyone else catch the BBC news coverage of Kyle Minogue's new fragrance debut. What was she wearing? I found this very poor quality video ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] 1860 leather gloves
There is a Dutch website that has a few ... let me look for the url when I get home tonight. :) Chiara On Fri, November 10, 2006 2:39 pm, Deredere Galbraith said: > Hi, > > I am looking for pictures of leather ladies gloves from around 1860. > I tried to find the on the Internet but I can't seem to find any. > > Greetings, >Deredere > ___ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Osebergfunnet IV - Tekstilene
I have purchased books from both Fred Struthers and www.nordicartbooks.com . The last time I talked to Fred, he was hesitant to carry the book because of the expense and limited market. I could not find the book on Lena's website, so you will probably need to email her, if you are interested. I got the book by mail-order shortly after it was published, but it was difficult. I ended up sending the money to a friend in Norway who got it converted to Kroners and paid cash at the gift-shop for me. (I am VERY appreciate) At the end of the summer, we took our trip and I saw it for sale at both the Historical Museum and the Ship Museum. They would then take VISA or MC, but only in person (no mailorders). This we have found is fairly typical of Museums over there. (As me about the problems I had with an order from Germany sometime). If I remember right, the only other alternative that I could find was a wire-transfer from a bank. This adds significantly to the cost. I can send you more info (off list) if you want to do this. FYI. I am taking the book with me to an SCA event in Hattiesburg, MS this weekend, if anyone is in the neighborhood. Beth At 12:52 PM 11/10/2006, you wrote: Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 00:36:21 -0500 From: Catherine Olanich Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [h-cost] Osebergfunnet IV - Tekstilene (The Oseberg find ?- The textiles) In case any of you are interested in purchasing the new book analyzing the Oseberg textiles, I just received the following e-mail. I haven't decided how I'm going to respond yet. Dear Cathy, It is our understanding that you are interested in the following book > Osebergfunnet IV - Tekstilene (The Oseberg find  - The textiles) by Arne > Emil Christensen and Margareta Nockert, Kulturhistorisk Museum (May 6th > 2006), Universitetet i Oslo. 24 x 36 cm. 408pp. ISBN 82-8984-024-9. > > Fred Struthers sent your information along as he would like us to process this > order for you. > > The cost would be $250.00. Please confirm that you are indeed interested in > this publication. > > Also please take a look at our website and let us know if you are interested > in other books > > www.nordicartbooks.com > Best Wishes for a Happy Holiday Season, Lena Torslow Hansen, Owner - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ART CONSULTING: SCANDINAVIA Books on Art & Architecture 3650 Cross Creek Road Malibu, CA 90265-4946 TEL (310) 456-8762 FAX (310) 456-5714 www.nordicartbooks.com -- Cathy Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] 1860 leather gloves
Hi, I am looking for pictures of leather ladies gloves from around 1860. I tried to find the on the Internet but I can't seem to find any. Greetings, Deredere ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] PS: World Record says 15??? was: Corset Training for 13"
> If I remember rightly, Valerie Steele's book has an image of a metal > (steel?) corset that almost perfectly matches this sketch, except with a > larger waist; she claims that it's a Victorian hoax, and I can certainly > see why, as it bears little resemblance to the more verifiable examples, > and much with Victorian metal-working techniques and tastes. Ahh, good ol' Amazon; this book is searchable, and you can see the image/read the text about it on page 5: http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0300099533/ref=sib_dp_pt/104-3522253-6315913#reader-link or http://snipurl.com/11v88 Also take a look at pages 2-6 (well, really, as far as the reader will let you, since this is one of the few books on corsets I consider to be very good). For a closer look at some of those sketches on page 3, take a look at: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Iron_corset -E House ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] World Record says 15??? was: Corset Training for 13"
She looks gruesome in person, her face is so tortured. I saw her about 10 years ago at a Victorian ball. Katy On 11/9/06, Joan Jurancich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: At 04:59 PM 11/9/2006, you wrote: >It just happens to be Guiness World Record Day...they showed a spot >on the local news which showed the current world record holders >waist has expanded from 15 to 20! > > >http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/records/human_body/extreme_bodies/smallest_waist_on_a_living_person.aspx > >H > >Sg I must say I don't find her wasp-waist to be particularly attractive. She looks like she might break in two in a high wind. Joan Jurancich [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian [EMAIL PROTECTED]www.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] World Record says 15??? was: Corset Training for 13"
Cathie Jung may have the official record, but here's the unofficial as far as I know: http://www.spook.dk/ (go to Past Corsets, then 14 Corset) Warnings: 1) not a family-friendly site, and 2) Just Plain Wrong. It looks like she's gone back up to 20, but it's Still Wrong. Anyway, I haven't looked into the topic thoroughly, but I'm completely in the "Victorians messed it up yet again" camp. Apart from all the cultural reasons that make it extremely likely for it to be a Victorian myth, there are the iron corsets themselves. Even without knowing the measurements, compare them to Spook's photos--either the iron corsets are made for someone about 3 feet tall with a 13" waist, or they're made for average-sized adult with a reasonable waist measurement. Take a look at a few extant or at least attributed 16thC iron corsets: http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Image:Ironcorset.png http://www.geocities.com/technically_naked/1550_Italian_Steel_corset_red.jpg http://www.staylace.com/unsortedjpgs/iron.jpg Compare these to what the Victorians allege (well, in this case, a 1919 repetition of what the Victorians allege) was worn in C de M's time: http://www.gutenberg.org/files/13444/13444-h/images/ill102.png (and incidentally, skim through http://www.gutenberg.org/files/13444/13444-h/13444-h.htm if you feel that you really have too much hair, and would be best served by removing some of it by hand in clumps.) If I remember rightly, Valerie Steele's book has an image of a metal (steel?) corset that almost perfectly matches this sketch, except with a larger waist; she claims that it's a Victorian hoax, and I can certainly see why, as it bears little resemblance to the more verifiable examples, and much with Victorian metal-working techniques and tastes. -E House, pro-corset, but not fond of tightlacing. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Osebergfunnet IV - Tekstilene (The Oseberg find - The textiles)
On Friday 10 November 2006 12:31 am, Robin Netherton wrote: [snip] > That seems more than a little excessive. When I inquired about the book > for possible review in MC&T, I was told it would be 1,090 NOK, which > equals 170 USD (at least today). That would have included shipping to our > reviewer in Denmark, but I can't imagine it costs 80 additional dollars to > ship to the US. I suspect most of the difference is their markup. > > ISTR that Beth Matney, on this list, got a copy a while back. Perhaps it > is cheaper if you order direct from the museum? Cheaper, perhaps, but more difficult. Beth was actually in Norway and could pay in the local currency. They were not taking credit cards at that point. -- Cathy Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "A civilized society is one which tolerates eccentricity to the point of doubtful sanity." --Robert Frost ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
