[h-cost] Blue police boxes

2006-12-14 Thread mdcarey
Kate Bunting said:

> Police telephone boxes no longer exist at all;...

They may no longer be using them, but as of my 2002 trip to 
London, there were still a few around.  I was utterly delighted to find 
that there was one on the sidewalk at the spot where Astral Tours 
told me to await my ride for my Stonehenge tour!

Smiling at the memory,

Maria



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Re: [h-cost] construction ?

2006-12-14 Thread Ruth Anne Baumgartner
Thanks--the Mickey Mouse remark was in an e-mail I had skipped over.  
I reacted that fast because when I directed and costumed The Rivals,  
my Lydia Languish wore her lover's miniature on a chain around her  
neck and tucked into the bosom of her gown (in one scene she takes it  
off and throws it at said lover, with appropriate remarks)--and when  
I saw the miniature on this lady's wrist I thought, "Dang, that would  
have looked cool on Lydia!"
By the way, I'm so glad both of these portraits were posted. They  
look like kind people and a very happy couple, don't they?

--Ruth Anne

On Dec 14, 2006, at 12:13 AM, otsisto wrote:

Someone mentioned that they knew they were tired when they thought  
the portrait bracelet was a Mickey Mouse watch.

De

-Original Message-
Watch? Isn't that a miniature (portrait)?
--Ruth Anne

-Original Message-

They're Swiss, so the watch humor was even more humorous to me. :)

Thank you,
De





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[h-cost] V&A weddingdress

2006-12-14 Thread Bjarne og Leif Drews

Hi,
Many of you may know the white satin weddingdress wich is in Norah Waughs 
Cut of Womens Clothes. A Robe Francaise with intricate puffs pleatings as 
decoration in the under and overskirt.

This dress has tape ties in the back section with the watteau pleats.
I just wondered if any here have seen any pictures where a francaise dress 
is lifted up in the back with these tapes?
I am just wondering because i am starting a new projekt in the new year with 
a francaise dress, and my client would like to have this opportunity to lift 
up the train.

I dont recall to have seen any pictures where this is shown.

Bjarne





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[h-cost] Blanche Payne

2006-12-14 Thread Bjarne og Leif Drews
Many thanks for those of you who gave me details of this book. I ordered it 
some time ago from America, and i got it today, the 65 edittion with all the 
pattern cuts.
In deed a very nice book, better than i remembered it from the library loan 
years and years ago.


Bjarne





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Re: [h-cost] V&A weddingdress

2006-12-14 Thread aquazoo
Hi Bjarne,

 We're talking about an 18thC gown, right?

 I remember talking about this on 18cWoman quite a while back.  After
much searching, I think someone found one picture of a robe Francaise
that was worn this way.  Sounds like it was rare, and understandable
since it changes the line of the gown.

 You may want to ask on that list, or e-mail Sue Felshin who has
stored all the archives and has a fast searching method on it.

 -Carol


> Hi,
> Many of you may know the white satin weddingdress wich is in Norah Waughs
> Cut of Womens Clothes. A Robe Francaise with intricate puffs pleatings as
> decoration in the under and overskirt.
> This dress has tape ties in the back section with the watteau pleats.
> I just wondered if any here have seen any pictures where a francaise dress
> is lifted up in the back with these tapes?
> I am just wondering because i am starting a new projekt in the new year
> with a francaise dress, and my client would like to have this
opportunity to
> lift up the train.
> I dont recall to have seen any pictures where this is shown.
>
> Bjarne


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RE: [h-cost] construction ?

2006-12-14 Thread otsisto
Both have personality. His is laid back with a twinkle of mischief.
De

-Original Message-
By the way, I'm so glad both of these portraits were posted. They  
look like kind people and a very happy couple, don't they?
--Ruth Anne


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Re: [h-cost] Re: fiber in paper

2006-12-14 Thread Onaree Berard

On 12/11/06, Gail & Scott Finke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:




I remember the television program "Connections" from my youth saying that
after the Black Plague paper production soared because of the huge
quantities of linen available from dead people. I don't know if that's
really true.

Gail Finke



Actually it was the survivors spending their inheritace and when they
(the linen) wore out it was perfect for the printing industry thus the
bone man became the rag and bone man or something to that effect.

Onaree 

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Re: [h-cost] Christian IV of Denmark was: Gack! Is she pregnant orisshe not? Need your opinions!

2006-12-14 Thread Bjarne og Leif Drews

Hi,
It could still be a daughter to Christian IV, he was married before with a 
lady from Germany, her name was Anne Cathrine, she died early in 1604 i 
think but had 2 sons and 2 daughters with the king, but only one of the boys 
survived childhood.
Is it the doll from Livrustkammaren in QEWU ? that is a swedish doll, not 
danish.


Bjarne

- Original Message - 
From: "Alexandria Doyle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 9:46 PM
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Christian IV of Denmark was: Gack! Is she pregnant 
orisshe not? Need your opinions!



It wasn't a painting that I was thinking of, but the so called fashion 
doll
in QEWU that I was thinking to be credited to one of Christian's 
daughters,
dated about 1598 iirc.  I'll have to go look at that again, because if 
this

portrait is dated to 1620, then it's not these girl's toy...  Maybe
Christian's sister?  Did he have one or more sisters?

thanks
alex

On 12/13/06, Bjarne og Leif Drews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hi Alex
Are you sure its the same picture?
I know a certain portrait from same period where the girls are holding
dolls
in their hands, but its not the same portrait.
In this portrait they have no dolls.
http://www.my-drewscostumes.dk/kirstenmunk.htm

Bjarne
- Original Message -
From: "Alexandria Doyle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 8:54 PM
Subject: [h-cost] Christian IV of Denmark was: Gack! Is she pregnant or
isshe not? Need your opinions!


> On 12/13/06, Bjarne og Leif Drews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Another portrait, similar in style, but a little later, She has the
same
>> kind of bodice-peplum and stomacher, but the roll is not as big as the
>> other
>> one posted. This is a replika from a larger portrait, where she is 
>> with

3
>> of
>> her daughters and a son, the girls wear same type of dress as the
mother.
>
>
> Bjarne,
>
> I know I could probably find this if I dug, but I thought you might 
> know

> or
> can get this info a little easier... Do you know the names of the
> daughters
> and approx year of birth?  There is a doll reported to have belong to
one
> of
> these girls and I was wondering if it might be possible to get a better
> guess which one it was...
>
> thanks
> alex
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[h-cost] New book 14th C Italy

2006-12-14 Thread Beth and Bob Matney
After all the talk about books that are delayed in publication, I thought 
that I'd mention one that I've just got in today. Has anyone else seen it?


Beth

Gilding the Market: Luxury and Fashion in Fourteenth-Century Italy by Susan 
Mosher Stuard 336 pages | 6 1/8 x 9 1/4 | 14 color, 10 b/w illus. Cloth Dec 
2005 | ISBN 0812239008

http://www.upenn.edu/pennpress/book/14208.html

"In the fourteenth century, garish ornaments, bright colors, gilt, and 
military effects helped usher in the age of fashion in Italy. Over a short 
span of years important matters began to turn on the cut of a sleeve. 
Fashion influenced consumption and provided a stimulus that drove demand 
for goods and turned wealthy townspeople into enthusiastic consumers. 
Making wise decisions about the alarmingly expensive goods that composed a 
fashionable wardrobe became a matter of pressing concern, especially when 
the market caught on and became awash in cheaper editions of luxury wares.


Focusing on the luxury trade in fashionable wear and accessories in Venice, 
Florence, and other towns in Italy, Gilding the Market investigates a major 
shift in patterns of consumption at the height of medieval prosperity, 
which, more remarkably, continued through the subsequent era of plague, 
return of plague, and increased warfare. A fine sensitivity to the demands 
of "le pompe," that is, the public display of private wealth, infected town 
life. The quest for luxuries affected markets by enlarging exchange 
activity and encouraging retail trades. As both consumers and tradesmen, 
local goldsmiths, long-distance traders, bankers, and money changers played 
important roles in creating this new age of fashion.


In response to a greater public display of luxury goods, civic sumptuary 
laws were written to curb spending and extreme fashion, but these were 
aimed at women, youth, and children, leaving townsmen largely unrestricted 
in their consumption. With erudition, grace, and an evocative selection of 
illustrations, some reproduced in full color, Susan Mosher Stuard explores 
the arrival of fashion in European history."
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Re: [h-cost] Re: fiber in paper

2006-12-14 Thread Andrew T Trembley

On Dec 14, 2006, at 4:33 PM, Onaree Berard wrote:

On 12/11/06, Gail & Scott Finke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I remember the television program "Connections" from my youth  
saying that

after the Black Plague paper production soared because of the huge
quantities of linen available from dead people. I don't know if  
that's

really true.

Gail Finke


Actually it was the survivors spending their inheritace and when they
(the linen) wore out it was perfect for the printing industry thus the
bone man became the rag and bone man or something to that effect.


On the other side of the equation, mummy wrappings were (for a time)  
a popular source of cloth for rag paper. At one point, a food-borne  
illness outbreak was tracked to butchers using unbleached rag-paper  
from mummy wrappings to wrap meat.


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Re: [h-cost] V&A weddingdress

2006-12-14 Thread Melanie Schuessler

Hi Bjarne,

There are robes a la Francaise that are shown tucked up polonaise-style 
into the pockets, like

http://www.bc.edu/bc_org/avp/cas/his/CoreArt/art/resources/bou_lat.jpg
Tapes would give a similar effect, just more formal.

Melanie Schuessler


Bjarne og Leif Drews wrote:

Hi,
Many of you may know the white satin weddingdress wich is in Norah 
Waughs Cut of Womens Clothes. A Robe Francaise with intricate puffs 
pleatings as decoration in the under and overskirt.

This dress has tape ties in the back section with the watteau pleats.
I just wondered if any here have seen any pictures where a francaise 
dress is lifted up in the back with these tapes?
I am just wondering because i am starting a new projekt in the new year 
with a francaise dress, and my client would like to have this 
opportunity to lift up the train.

I dont recall to have seen any pictures where this is shown.

Bjarne




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Re: [h-cost] New book 14th C Italy

2006-12-14 Thread Robin Netherton

On Thu, 14 Dec 2006, Beth and Bob Matney wrote:

> After all the talk about books that are delayed in publication, I thought 
> that I'd mention one that I've just got in today. Has anyone else seen it?
> 
> Beth
> 
> Gilding the Market: Luxury and Fashion in Fourteenth-Century Italy by Susan 
> Mosher Stuard 336 pages | 6 1/8 x 9 1/4 | 14 color, 10 b/w illus. Cloth Dec 
> 2005 | ISBN 0812239008
> http://www.upenn.edu/pennpress/book/14208.html

We have a review of it in our upcoming volume of MC&T. Our reviewer liked
it. It apparently has a social/economic focus but uses everything from
sumptuary laws to visual arts as sources. Yet another great resource for
people studying Italian clothing ... after Moda i Firenze, Dressing
Renaissance Florence, and so many others. I picked the wrong part of
Europe to focus on, apparently.

--Robin


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Re: [h-cost] 0f belts and hanging sleeves

2006-12-14 Thread Cin

My guess, and I'm no expert, the "red" with all the pleating is the
back of the skirt seen in shadow, while the white/gray triangle above
the red is the interior of an open robe. When I drape my open robe
over the drum I get a bit of squnch back there that looks like pooling
water instead of rayed pleats. Admittedly, I'm looking at a 6x9" color
photo, not the real portrait.



If you look at the bottom of the hanging sleeve on the viewer's left you
can see the red which is also visible under the left arm, this is what's
on the "back" of the sleeve. The same red is visible on the right of the
bodice, just behind the pearls, and it's visible as a red overskirt in the
space under her arms.
Dawn


Funny, I see this same red as the shadow of the sleeve, robe, etc, not as a
second skirt.  I needed another reason to go back to the UK!
Dawn, arent you going soon?
--cin
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