Re: [h-cost] German Renaissance pleating

2007-12-29 Thread Leif og Bjarne Drews

Hi,
Or perhaps they used sticks? Sticks as long as the pleating was going to be 
like, you know, lye one under, then one over and so on.
This method is used for some of the headwears, that pheassant women in 
Denmark used.

Done with wet water, and taken up again when dry?

Bjarne
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I'd hazard a guess that they were made like smocking pleating...probably
basting threads were sewn at regular intervals and then pressed.  Don't know
that there is really any faking itother than using a pleater...

http://www.smockingstore.com/pleaters.html#pleaters  (Scroll down).

Sg

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Subject: [h-cost] German Renaissance pleating

Hello,

has anyone ever heard of German Renaissance
pleating techniques? Textiler Hausrat mentions
sumptuary laws by which a pleated apron must not
cost more than a given price for the Felterer,
a tradesman specialised in making the pleats, and
some household inventories mention pleating
boards and irons. But how exactly would these
pleats have been made? They are so small and yet
look perfectly parallel when you look at this
picture:
http://www.zeno.org/Kunstwerke/B/Dürer,+Albrecht%3A+Nürnbergerin+im+Hausklei
d+%5B1%5D
I cannot believe that they were ironed one by one, do you?

How would you make these pleats, or how would you fake them for the stage?

Best wishes,
Hanna

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Re: [h-cost] German Renaissance pleating

2007-12-29 Thread Hanna Zickermann
Gunvor and Bjarne,

thank you so much for your ideas and that wonderful link. I am on a vacation 
with not so much internet access, but the first brief look at the Norwegian 
technique was just so interesting!

Happy new year everone!

Hanna
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 Datum: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 16:13:03 +0100
 Von: Leif og Bjarne Drews [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Hi,
 Or perhaps they used sticks? Sticks as long as the pleating was going to
 be 
 like, you know, lye one under, then one over and so on.
 This method is used for some of the headwears, that pheassant women in 
 Denmark used.
 Done with wet water, and taken up again when dry?
 
 Bjarne
 - Original Message - 
 From: Wicked Frau [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 'Historical Costume' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 4:09 PM
 Subject: RE: [h-cost] German Renaissance pleating
 
 
 I'd hazard a guess that they were made like smocking pleating...probably
 basting threads were sewn at regular intervals and then pressed.  Don't
 know
 that there is really any faking itother than using a pleater...
 
 http://www.smockingstore.com/pleaters.html#pleaters  (Scroll down).
 
 Sg
 
 For further opinions you might want to join TheGermanRenCostume Yahoo
 group.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Hanna Zickermann
 Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 4:38 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [h-cost] German Renaissance pleating
 
 Hello,
 
 has anyone ever heard of German Renaissance
 pleating techniques? Textiler Hausrat mentions
 sumptuary laws by which a pleated apron must not
 cost more than a given price for the Felterer,
 a tradesman specialised in making the pleats, and
 some household inventories mention pleating
 boards and irons. But how exactly would these
 pleats have been made? They are so small and yet
 look perfectly parallel when you look at this
 picture:
 http://www.zeno.org/Kunstwerke/B/Dürer,+Albrecht%3A+Nürnbergerin+im+Hausklei
 d+%5B1%5D
 I cannot believe that they were ironed one by one, do you?
 
 How would you make these pleats, or how would you fake them for the
 stage?
 
 Best wishes,
 Hanna
 
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