RE: [h-cost] Cape May/Morris Co

2008-02-17 Thread otsisto
Though I have heard it refered to as barding, I have been informed by many a 
horse person that it is comparisons. Supposedly, barding is in reference to 
horse armour and camparison is the fabric heraldic garments. But online I find 
horse people calling it barding.
http://ilaria.veltri.tripod.com/
http://www.bayrose.org/Poppy_Run/horse_barding_web.pdf

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On Saturday 16 February 2008, Rickard, Patty wrote:
  Do they
 make costumes for horses?

 Medieval reeenactors make costumes for horses - it gets called barding  (if
 it isn't armour).

Some vendors who market to medieval reenactors make them too.  Consider this 
item from Historic Enterprises:

http://www.historicenterprises.com/cart.php?m=product_detailp=598c=131

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Re: [h-cost] Cape May/Morris Co

2008-02-17 Thread Melanie Schuessler

I think it's spelled caparison, for those who want to search it online.

Melanie


On Feb 17, 2008, at 3:38 AM, otsisto wrote:

Though I have heard it refered to as barding, I have been informed  
by many a horse person that it is comparisons. Supposedly, barding  
is in reference to horse armour and camparison is the fabric  
heraldic garments. But online I find horse people calling it barding.

http://ilaria.veltri.tripod.com/
http://www.bayrose.org/Poppy_Run/horse_barding_web.pdf
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RE: [h-cost] Cape May/Morris Co

2008-02-17 Thread Rickard, Patty
I bet that's right - but I think it's caparison.

Patty

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Subject: RE: [h-cost] Cape May/Morris Co

Though I have heard it refered to as barding, I have been informed by many a 
horse person that it is comparisons. Supposedly, barding is in reference to 
horse armour and camparison is the fabric heraldic garments. But online I find 
horse people calling it barding.
http://ilaria.veltri.tripod.com/
http://www.bayrose.org/Poppy_Run/horse_barding_web.pdf

-Original Message-

On Saturday 16 February 2008, Rickard, Patty wrote:
  Do they
 make costumes for horses?

 Medieval reeenactors make costumes for horses - it gets called barding  (if
 it isn't armour).

Some vendors who market to medieval reenactors make them too.  Consider this 
item from Historic Enterprises:

http://www.historicenterprises.com/cart.php?m=product_detailp=598c=131

-- 
Cathy Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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[h-cost] A little help, please.

2008-02-17 Thread Kimiko Small
Hi all,

Quick question but I am not understanding something
from the 16th century that I think is an abbreviation
or something similar.

di

Here are two sentences that use it.

the foreparte of the George of Dyamountes the Mayle
of the curates and Rivet of the same of Siluer half
gilte with a sworde in his hand of gold a lozenged
Dyamounte like a sheelde and a Dragon of gold weying
together iij oz di di quarter

a little George of gold to hang at a Collar of
garters weying one ounce quarter di

Thanks for any help with this.

Kimiko





  

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Re: [h-cost] A little help, please.

2008-02-17 Thread Joan Jurancich

At 10:55 AM 2/17/2008, you wrote:

Hi all,

Quick question but I am not understanding something
from the 16th century that I think is an abbreviation
or something similar.

di

Here are two sentences that use it.

the foreparte of the George of Dyamountes the Mayle
of the curates and Rivet of the same of Siluer half
gilte with a sworde in his hand of gold a lozenged
Dyamounte like a sheelde and a Dragon of gold weying
together iij oz di di quarter

a little George of gold to hang at a Collar of
garters weying one ounce quarter di

Thanks for any help with this.

Kimiko


It's an abbreviation for dimidio, or half. In this case , di di 
quarter is 5/8 ounce (one half ounce plus one half of one half ounce).  The
quarter di is 3/8 ounce (one quarter ounce plus one half of one 
quarter ounce). There is a table of measures in QEWU on page 242 that 
gives the meanings of all these abbreviations.


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Re: [h-cost] A little help, please.

2008-02-17 Thread Kimiko Small
Thank you to Melanie, Rebecca, and Joan for your help
with this little question. I can now understand what
is going on with my reading!

And thanks also Joan for letting me know about the
reference in QEWU, I will pull that book out for
further info on the measurements.

Thanks all again,

Kimiko





  

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[h-cost] Ball dress:

2008-02-17 Thread ladybeanofbunny1
It is that time, I have to plan making not only my first bustle gown, 
but probably best if I get a bustle era ball gown knocked out of the 
way since I do not have one. What is a good pattern to start with? I 
keep finding a pattern on ebay called Buckaroo Bobbins and it is a 
pattern for a polonaise and bustle skirt but I am not sure if it would 
be a good pattern, it could be just as unathentic as the one or two 
incredibly inaccurate patterns produced by the large companies. The 
polonaise gown looks easy enough but with out any experience it may be 
alot harder than thought to be. Would it be best to try out that era 
first with something simple to get the feel for it? When I do make the 
ball gown, it isn't going to be an easy 1-2-3 peice like my others to 
date so maybe if there are any bustlers out there you could share some 
hints on how to get started and what to avoid/try. Goodnight and 
thanks, Justine:)




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Re: [h-cost] Ball dress:

2008-02-17 Thread Lynn Downward
My two censts is that you peruse the Truly Victorian website. They focus on
the bustle era. Their patterns are well researched, fit very well and have
excellent instructions. They have everything you'll need, from corset,
bustles, underskirts, overskirts and bodices. You can also email them with
questions and they are very helpful.

Not related but I'm a big fan of their work.
LynnD

On Feb 17, 2008 8:16 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It is that time, I have to plan making not only my first bustle gown,
 but probably best if I get a bustle era ball gown knocked out of the
 way since I do not have one. What is a good pattern to start with? I
 keep finding a pattern on ebay called Buckaroo Bobbins and it is a
 pattern for a polonaise and bustle skirt but I am not sure if it would
 be a good pattern, it could be just as unathentic as the one or two
 incredibly inaccurate patterns produced by the large companies. The
 polonaise gown looks easy enough but with out any experience it may be
 alot harder than thought to be. Would it be best to try out that era
 first with something simple to get the feel for it? When I do make the
 ball gown, it isn't going to be an easy 1-2-3 peice like my others to
 date so maybe if there are any bustlers out there you could share some
 hints on how to get started and what to avoid/try. Goodnight and
 thanks, Justine:)


 
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RE: [h-cost] Cape May/Morris Co ........... Barding or heraldric items..., spelling is the key

2008-02-17 Thread Melody Watts
The spelling may be throwing people off. According to Mirriam  Websters its; 
Caparison
  no M .
  
Main Entry: 1ca·par·i·son   
Pronunciation: \k#601;-#712;per-#601;-s#601;n, -#712;pa-r#601;-\   
Function: noun   
Etymology: Middle French caparaçon, from Old Spanish caparazón   
Date: 1579   1 a: an ornamental covering for a horse b: decorative trappings 
and harness
  2: rich clothing : adornment
  
Melody
  
otsisto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Though I have heard it refered to as barding, I have been informed by many a 
horse person that it is comparisons. Supposedly, barding is in reference to 
horse armour and camparison is the fabric heraldic garments. But online I find 
horse people calling it barding.
http://ilaria.veltri.tripod.com/
http://www.bayrose.org/Poppy_Run/horse_barding_web.pdf

-Original Message-

On Saturday 16 February 2008, Rickard, Patty wrote:
 Do they
 make costumes for horses?

 Medieval reeenactors make costumes for horses - it gets called barding (if
 it isn't armour).

Some vendors who market to medieval reenactors make them too. Consider this 
item from Historic Enterprises:

http://www.historicenterprises.com/cart.php?m=product_detailp=598c=131

-- 
Cathy Raymond 

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