Re: [h-cost] Standard reference books on embroidery history?
At 12:19 AM 2/05/2008, you wrote: >On Thu, 01 May 2008 08:18:45 -0500 "Catherine Kinsey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >writes: > > Pretty much everything that Jane said below :). > > > > I would add George W. Digby's "Elizabethan Embroidery (Faber & > > Faber, > > 1963) for a good broader perspective on blackwork and embroidery in > > the > > latter 16th C. > > > > Mamluk is a MUST! I don't have the titles in front of me but I > > think a > > couple of books by Kathleen Epstein/Staples touch on this too. > > > > Catherine > >It's my understanding that Thomas (?) Trevelon's book is being re-issued, >and it is an amazing--if pricey--source. I've looked at the Trevelyon copy I managed to talk my library into buying! It is very, very good. Great blackwork patterns for mens nightcaps, lots of "overall" patterns that could be adapted for coifs or other large area patterns. So it's a good source for patterns but not really context. >Jane Ashelford's book on Elizabethan dress (sorry, been up 5 minutes and >can't remember the title) is a wonderful source for the contexts of >embroidery. > >Arlys > >Arlys Cheers, Jane Jane Stockton - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Barony of Mordenvale, Kingdom of Lochac In Prayse of the Needle - http://needleprayse.webcon.net.au/ (personal website) Historical Needlework Resources - http://medieval.webcon.net.au/ (resource website) The Needles' Excellency - http://laren.blogspot.com/ (blog) ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Husqvarna Viking Machines
Where's a good website to buy machine embroidery thread BTW? As I said, my old Viking is perfectly functional, though not top-of-the-line in its time. Is there any convenience to having one machine set up for sewing and another for embroidery, considering I already have one just for sewing? http://www.bfc-stash.com http://www.longcreekmills.com http://www.melco-mart.com http://www.anembroideredaffair.com All have good prices on thread and stabilizers. The only one I have personal knowledge of is bef-stash, as I have purchased several designs from them, and I have always been satisfied. The others, I've heard numerous good reports on. Dianne ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Husqvarna Viking Embroidery Machines
But I could do the downloads myself, right? As I do for the s/w on my computer. I see what you mean about local tech support though, as there's always some chance, however small, of getting a defective machine or otherwise having technical problems. BTW, are their "embroidery sticks" machine-specific in any way, or can you use any computer data stick/flash drive? Thanks, Fran I never bought a machine from a dealer before my embroidery machine, because I never was buying the higher-end machines. (And my PE750D is not exactly high end, still, but it's the most I ever spent on a machine.) After this one experience, I can't imagine buying from a store instead of a dealer ever again. My dealer has been terrific. AFAIK, the higher-end embroidery machines can use regular USB memory sticks. My machine takes a reader/writer card and a convertor box. I almost got the machine with the thumb drive capability, but I really liked the operation of the one I chose instead, and since I already had the convertor box, it wasn't much of an issue. Dianne ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] costume in NH
I took over Astrida"s position at Strawbery Banke, but I did stop at this fabric store on some of my may trips to Wilmington, VT. My feeling was that the prices were out of my range and that of the museum as well. I've hear that their clientèle is doll clothes makers. Dot Fisher > I've been told wonders about this fabric store, but haven't been there > > myself yet. > > Delectable Mountain, in Brattleboro VT-- about an hour away from your > > soon-to-be home! > > http://www.delectablemountain.com/ > > ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Husqvarna Viking Machines
At this time it depends on how soon you want a > machine - for the new TOL I would expect to see a price somewhere in the > $7500 - > 8200 ball park (and I may be completely wrong). And I assume that doesn't include their proprietary s/w embroidery editing package, or anything extra in terms of special feet, different-sized hoops, etc.? I assume they give you some feet and hoops with the machine but perhaps not everything I'd want. I may be wrong, it's been so long since I bought my old Viking, but I dimly remember dickering with the salespeople and getting a discount, like buying a car. Where's a good website to buy machine embroidery thread BTW? As I said, my old Viking is perfectly functional, though not top-of-the-line in its time. Is there any convenience to having one machine set up for sewing and another for embroidery, considering I already have one just for sewing? I'm already wondering if, when I upgrade my computer, I should be putting my old one in the sewing room, considering I've always had my sewing room separate from my office and am likely to continue to want things that way. Thanks, Fran > > I generally don't care much for the HV designs, although occasionally there > are some nice ones. They tend to be pricey relative to the competition. If > you get a machine I would recommend looking at Embroidery Library. They > have > attractive, well-digitized designs, and they run sales fairly frequently. > To bring it back to a historic perspective, they have some nice blackwork > and > Jacobean designs (although they're getting a bit far out of typical Jacobean > patterns based on their latest Jacobean sea creatures). > > Hope that helps, > > Nancy > > > > **Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family > favorites at AOL Food. > (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod000301) > ___ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > > ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Husqvarna Viking Machines
Fran writes: But I could do the downloads myself, right? As I do for the s/w on my computer. I see what you mean about local tech support though, as there's always some chance, however small, of getting a defective machine or otherwise having technical problems. BTW, are their "embroidery sticks" machine-specific in any way, or can you use any computer data stick/flash drive? Yes, you can do the downloads yourself. The machine (SE) comes with a USB cable to connect the machine with the computer as well as the software to set up the connection. HV has a listing of which sticks are compatible on their website. There have been some issues with compatibility in the past, so you do need to pay attention. It depends on the individual dealer as to when machines go on sale. One of the best times to buy is when they have an all day class where they bring in a lot of machines and let people take the class using the machine. I had already bought my machine, and was depressed when I heard what the sale price was on the demo machines. At this time it depends on how soon you want a machine - for the new TOL I would expect to see a price somewhere in the $7500 - 8200 ball park (and I may be completely wrong). I generally don't care much for the HV designs, although occasionally there are some nice ones. They tend to be pricey relative to the competition. If you get a machine I would recommend looking at Embroidery Library. They have attractive, well-digitized designs, and they run sales fairly frequently. To bring it back to a historic perspective, they have some nice blackwork and Jacobean designs (although they're getting a bit far out of typical Jacobean patterns based on their latest Jacobean sea creatures). Hope that helps, Nancy **Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod000301) ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Husqvarna Viking Embroidery Machines
Fran wrote: > But I could do the downloads myself, right? As I do for the s/w on my I've done them myself (when I remember to actually do them). > BTW, are their "embroidery sticks" machine-specific in any way, or can > you use any computer data stick/flash drive? I've used whatever USB stick/key/flashdrive I have handy, which usually isn't the one that came with the machine. However, the dealers are required to tell you that they can't offer technical support if you don't use the Viking stick or one on their approved list. You can also transfer embroidery designs by plugging the machine directly into your computer, the machine has a USB port. I think it appears like another harrdrive on your machine, I haven't done this in a while so don't remember. Ditto what Nancy said, June is the big Viking dealer convention and they're announcing the new machine then. Which means used Designer SE's may flood the market (including mine, *wink* *wink*). Claudine ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Software for machines was New Sewing Machine
Embrid http://www.embird.com/ This is the software they use for their own designs. Chiara Francesca -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lavolta Press Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 2:19 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Software for machines was New Sewing Machine I see what you mean about info-light. I am thinking of waiting till it comes out and seeing if the new features are better and so on. How long after a machine comes out does the sale cycle start, and how often do they go on sale? Thanks, Fran > > What they are saying so far is practically nothing. The info-light, media-heavy > pre-launch website is here: > http://www.husqvarnaviking.com/mediafiles/dd/prelaunch/index_en_US.htm > > I should also note that with the exception of very new models, all > these machines > go on sale frequently - you shouldn't pay full price (ever, IMO). > It's just that the > discounts currently are a bit bigger than usual. > > -Catrijn > ___ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > > ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Museums in the North East US was:Sorry, had to laugh
Since you mention that you will be in New Hampshire I have to recommend that you go to the Hood Art Museum at Dartmouth. I was there for a non-costuming reason and just happened to have time to wander to their museum. They have great early things (a wonderful early middle eastern art display) and many later American and European paintings. Of course, having the Rockefellers attend your school probably helps the art collection... also there is a great Orozco mural in the basement of the Baker Library building -- and the admission was free. Agnes On Apr 30, 2008, at 11:47 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Message: 13 > Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 01:50:19 -0500 > From: "Exstock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [h-cost] Sorry, had to laugh > To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > - Original Message - > > On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 22:49:15 -0700 "Wanda Pease" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > writes: >> Since my migraines are pressure triggered, I'm >> pretty miserable even though I really love the green this produces >> as well as the coolness! > > Not to glory in your pain, but I'm very relieved to hear this--the > husband > and I recently decided for sure NOT to move to WA (going to NH > instead!) and > we both get pressure/weather migraines. Sour grapes and all, but > I'm glad > to have one less reason not to regret our decision! > > -E > PS--anyone have any suggestions for costume or museum related > destinations > in the northeast? > > ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Husqvarna Viking Embroidery Machines
Lavolta Press wrote: > But I could do the downloads myself, right? As I do for the s/w on my > computer. I see what you mean about local tech support though, as > there's always some chance, however small, of getting a defective > machine or otherwise having technical problems. AFAIK, most updates to the machine are user-installable. Some may require a visit to the shop, though. One of the big reasons for going to a good dealer is the start-up training. Embroidery machines in general, and Viking embroidery machines in particular, are very feature-rich systems. Without training owners often spend several years doing things in difficult and inefficient ways because they don't know about less obvious advanced options. > BTW, are their "embroidery sticks" machine-specific in any way, or can > you use any computer data stick/flash drive? I believe they're just ordinary USB flash drives formatted for Windows. andy ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Husqvarna Viking Embroidery Machines
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I have a Designer SE, and I love it! You may want to wait until next month > to buy. The latest top of the line Viking is to come out then. There is > much speculation as to what features it will have, but the general idea is > that > it will have the same large field as the Pfaff. Now that is exactly what I am hoping for. > > It is important when purchasing a machine that you get one from a reliable > dealer who will provide solid support after the sale. These are > computerized > machines and have to be updated (by download) periodically. But I could do the downloads myself, right? As I do for the s/w on my computer. I see what you mean about local tech support though, as there's always some chance, however small, of getting a defective machine or otherwise having technical problems. BTW, are their "embroidery sticks" machine-specific in any way, or can you use any computer data stick/flash drive? Thanks, Fran I would > recommend finding a dealer who provides regular owner classes (not just one > lesson) > if at all possible. The software program Viking has is also a lot of fun > and > fairly user friendly if you want to digitize. Again, classes are really > useful, although the tutorials are pretty good. If you do end up buying a > machine I strongly recommend joining the Designer SE Yahoo user group. The > people > on there have an amazing amount of knowledge and are very generous with > sharing. > > Nancy > > > > > **Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family > favorites at AOL Food. > (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod000301) > ___ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > > ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Husqvarna Viking Embroidery Machines
I have a Designer SE, and I love it! You may want to wait until next month to buy. The latest top of the line Viking is to come out then. There is much speculation as to what features it will have, but the general idea is that it will have the same large field as the Pfaff. Based on past experience, there will be a number of SE's (and probably also some Designer 1's - also an excellent machine) traded in for the new TOL. I have found the Designers to be so much fun that owning one really recharged my interest in machine sewing. It is important when purchasing a machine that you get one from a reliable dealer who will provide solid support after the sale. These are computerized machines and have to be updated (by download) periodically. I would recommend finding a dealer who provides regular owner classes (not just one lesson) if at all possible. The software program Viking has is also a lot of fun and fairly user friendly if you want to digitize. Again, classes are really useful, although the tutorials are pretty good. If you do end up buying a machine I strongly recommend joining the Designer SE Yahoo user group. The people on there have an amazing amount of knowledge and are very generous with sharing. Nancy **Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod000301) ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] costume in NH
: ) Glad to help! ; ) Astrida *** Astrida Schaeffer, Assistant Director Museum of Art, University of New Hampshire Paul Creative Arts Center 30 College Road Durham, NH 03824-3538 603-862-0310 FAX: 603-862-2191 www.unh.edu/art-gallery *** > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Leif og Bjarne Drews > Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 3:24 PM > To: Historical Costume > Subject: Re: [h-cost] costume in NH > > WOOOH, thanks a lot, they have the red/ black silk jacquard i > can use for the Estrup renaissance dress i am going to make, ben looking > so > manny places without any results. > I am glad this shop isnt here in Copenhagen :-) > > Bjarne > > - Original Message - > From: "Schaeffer, Astrida" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 9:12 PM > Subject: Re: [h-cost] costume in NH > > > > Well, welcome! > > > > I've been told wonders about this fabric store, but haven't been there > > myself yet. > > Delectable Mountain, in Brattleboro VT-- about an hour away from your > > soon-to-be home! > > http://www.delectablemountain.com/ > > > > > > Astrida > > *** > > Astrida Schaeffer, Assistant Director > > Museum of Art, University of New Hampshire > > Paul Creative Arts Center > > 30 College Road > > Durham, NH 03824-3538 > > 603-862-0310 > > FAX: 603-862-2191 > > > > www.unh.edu/art-gallery > > *** > > > >> -Original Message- > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On > >> Behalf Of Exstock > >> Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 3:06 PM > >> To: Historical Costume > >> Subject: Re: [h-cost] costume in NH > >> > >> - Original Message - > >> From: "Schaeffer, Astrida" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > Where in NH? > >> > >> I'll be within commuting distance of Dartmouth, but I'm willing to > > drive a > >> few hours to get my costuming jollies. I'm not willing to go as far > > as > >> NYC, > >> but anything in New England or even possibly the bits of Canada around > >> Montreal is on tap. I may even get up the nerve to visit Yale's > >> collection > >> of illuminated manuscripts! > >> > >> -E House > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> h-costume mailing list > >> h-costume@mail.indra.com > >> http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > > ___ > > h-costume mailing list > > h-costume@mail.indra.com > > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > > > > > ___ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] costume in NH
WOOOH, thanks a lot, they have the red/ black silk jacquard i can use for the Estrup renaissance dress i am going to make, ben looking so manny places without any results. I am glad this shop isnt here in Copenhagen :-) Bjarne - Original Message - From: "Schaeffer, Astrida" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 9:12 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] costume in NH > Well, welcome! > > I've been told wonders about this fabric store, but haven't been there > myself yet. > Delectable Mountain, in Brattleboro VT-- about an hour away from your > soon-to-be home! > http://www.delectablemountain.com/ > > > Astrida > *** > Astrida Schaeffer, Assistant Director > Museum of Art, University of New Hampshire > Paul Creative Arts Center > 30 College Road > Durham, NH 03824-3538 > 603-862-0310 > FAX: 603-862-2191 > > www.unh.edu/art-gallery > *** > >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On >> Behalf Of Exstock >> Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 3:06 PM >> To: Historical Costume >> Subject: Re: [h-cost] costume in NH >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Schaeffer, Astrida" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > Where in NH? >> >> I'll be within commuting distance of Dartmouth, but I'm willing to > drive a >> few hours to get my costuming jollies. I'm not willing to go as far > as >> NYC, >> but anything in New England or even possibly the bits of Canada around >> Montreal is on tap. I may even get up the nerve to visit Yale's >> collection >> of illuminated manuscripts! >> >> -E House >> >> >> ___ >> h-costume mailing list >> h-costume@mail.indra.com >> http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > ___ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Software for machines was New Sewing Machine
I see what you mean about info-light. I am thinking of waiting till it comes out and seeing if the new features are better and so on. How long after a machine comes out does the sale cycle start, and how often do they go on sale? Thanks, Fran > > What they are saying so far is practically nothing. The info-light, > media-heavy > pre-launch website is here: > http://www.husqvarnaviking.com/mediafiles/dd/prelaunch/index_en_US.htm > > I should also note that with the exception of very new models, all > these machines > go on sale frequently - you shouldn't pay full price (ever, IMO). > It's just that the > discounts currently are a bit bigger than usual. > > -Catrijn > ___ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > > ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] costume in NH
Well, welcome! I've been told wonders about this fabric store, but haven't been there myself yet. Delectable Mountain, in Brattleboro VT-- about an hour away from your soon-to-be home! http://www.delectablemountain.com/ Astrida *** Astrida Schaeffer, Assistant Director Museum of Art, University of New Hampshire Paul Creative Arts Center 30 College Road Durham, NH 03824-3538 603-862-0310 FAX: 603-862-2191 www.unh.edu/art-gallery *** > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Exstock > Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 3:06 PM > To: Historical Costume > Subject: Re: [h-cost] costume in NH > > - Original Message - > From: "Schaeffer, Astrida" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Where in NH? > > I'll be within commuting distance of Dartmouth, but I'm willing to drive a > few hours to get my costuming jollies. I'm not willing to go as far as > NYC, > but anything in New England or even possibly the bits of Canada around > Montreal is on tap. I may even get up the nerve to visit Yale's > collection > of illuminated manuscripts! > > -E House > > > ___ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] costume in NH
- Original Message - From: "Schaeffer, Astrida" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Where in NH? I'll be within commuting distance of Dartmouth, but I'm willing to drive a few hours to get my costuming jollies. I'm not willing to go as far as NYC, but anything in New England or even possibly the bits of Canada around Montreal is on tap. I may even get up the nerve to visit Yale's collection of illuminated manuscripts! -E House ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Software for machines was New Sewing Machine
On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 2:28 PM, Lavolta Press <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I was wondering whether the discounts were just because this is the kind > of computer purchase where you never really pay list price anyway, or > because Viking was about to introduce a new model. Because it seems > just like buying other computer s/w and h/w, the manufacturer upgrades > to a new version ten minutes after you buy the former version. > > So, I am glad to know about the new model. When do they say they are > introducing it, and what advantages do they say it has over the old model? > What they are saying so far is practically nothing. The info-light, media-heavy pre-launch website is here: http://www.husqvarnaviking.com/mediafiles/dd/prelaunch/index_en_US.htm I should also note that with the exception of very new models, all these machines go on sale frequently - you shouldn't pay full price (ever, IMO). It's just that the discounts currently are a bit bigger than usual. -Catrijn ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Software for machines was New Sewing Machine
All of the > design programs should allow you to split a design into multiple parts > to do embroideries larger than the hoop size. The trick is > repositioning precisely to start the second (and later) sections so > that everything lines up properly. Good--that means the embroidery field size does not matter as much. > > Part of the reason for all the recent discounts on Viking Designers is > that it looks like they're introducing a new top-of-the-line machine > later this year, I've been getting a lot of e-mail hype about it. > > - Catrijn > I was wondering whether the discounts were just because this is the kind of computer purchase where you never really pay list price anyway, or because Viking was about to introduce a new model. Because it seems just like buying other computer s/w and h/w, the manufacturer upgrades to a new version ten minutes after you buy the former version. So, I am glad to know about the new model. When do they say they are introducing it, and what advantages do they say it has over the old model? Fran Lavolta Press http://www.lavoltapress.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Software for machines was New Sewing Machine
On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 1:56 PM, Lavolta Press <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's been so long since I bought a machine I really don't know the > market any more. I saw some new Viking Designers SE for sale on eBay, > but I'm kind of afraid to buy a sewing machine off eBay. > > > Fran > Lavolta Press > http://www.lavoltapress.com > >From previous experience, I wouldn't buy a sewing machine off of ebay unless it was available for local pick-up. Also keep in mind that it will be much easier to get warranty service if you work with a local dealer. As for your various questions... Pfaff and Husqvarna are owned by the same company now (VSM group), hence their near-identical software, which is produced by another division of the company. The primary third party software competitor is Embird, which is less expensive, but you'll need to research compatibility for particular machines, and it doesn't look like it's seen a major update recently. All of the design programs should allow you to split a design into multiple parts to do embroideries larger than the hoop size. The trick is repositioning precisely to start the second (and later) sections so that everything lines up properly. Features for making this easier vary - your best bet is asking a dealer to demonstrate it. Part of the reason for all the recent discounts on Viking Designers is that it looks like they're introducing a new top-of-the-line machine later this year, I've been getting a lot of e-mail hype about it. - Catrijn (who has still never actually USED the embroidery portion of her Platinum 950E) ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Software for machines was New Sewing Machine
Thanks! I am wondering for historic-type embroidery (of any historic period) people are using the predigitized designs around, which I have not checked into very much. All I've really done, is the Viking site is offering a deal with a kind of coupon for $1,000 of their own accessories of your choice, feet and so on, which sounds good to me. However, since Viking does not seem to be selling machines directly off their site in any way I can perceive so far, this must be available only from participating vendors. Anyway, the deal also includes a $500 coupon for a place that sells predigitized designs, and I have to say theirs didn't excite me all that much. However, it looks like everybody and their dog may be selling digitized embroidery designs. Does anyone speciailize in historic designs of any kind? I want to digitize my own, but if anyone is selling ones I might really like and which might save me some work at some point, I'd like to know about that also. It's been so long since I bought a machine I really don't know the market any more. I saw some new Viking Designers SE for sale on eBay, but I'm kind of afraid to buy a sewing machine off eBay. Fran Lavolta Press http://www.lavoltapress.com Chiara Francesca wrote: > One of my girlfriends has a husband that works for Microsoft. He loves their > embroidery machine. He uses it more than she does! :) > > Anyhow, he found some non-proprietary software that works with most machines > if not all. We have used it over and over again for designs we made > ourselves. > > I will ask him what it is but in the mean time, now that we have changed the > subject heading maybe others will chime in with what software they found. :) > > Chiara Francesca > ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Software for machines was New Sewing Machine
One of my girlfriends has a husband that works for Microsoft. He loves their embroidery machine. He uses it more than she does! :) Anyhow, he found some non-proprietary software that works with most machines if not all. We have used it over and over again for designs we made ourselves. I will ask him what it is but in the mean time, now that we have changed the subject heading maybe others will chime in with what software they found. :) Chiara Francesca -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lavolta Press Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 12:23 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] New Sewing Machine I've really only wanted fairly basic sewing machines before in my life, just good sturdy machines to sew with, the usual simple stitches. I started out with a treadle, then I had an incredibly sturdy early Singer electric with a bentwood case that in retrospect I wish I hadn't parted with, then I had a Sears Kenmore that I used for years, till I beat it to death. After that I bought a lemon model of a Bernina that never worked right, which I gather is not typical for Bernina and they soon took it off the market, but it's turned me off Berninas ever since. Within a month I traded it in for the Viking I have now. I like my current Viking, it's a good machine with the usual array of basic stitches, and really I mostly use the straight stitch. It still works great. It's just that I love embroidery, and I don't have time to hand embroider and still do everything else in life. I downloaded some materials on both the Viking Designer SE and the new Pfaff Creative Vision. They both look extremely tempting. They both have an incredible array of features. The proprietary software for both seems identical (probably third-party product licensed to both manufacturers), so that's not a consideration. The Pfaff Creative Vision does seem to have the largest field, but I'm biased in favor of the Viking because I already have a more basic Viking and I like it. So one thing I want to know is, suppose I want to embroider a large design that is not composed of repeating patterns/identical units. A design larger than the field, whatever that field is. Can either machine tile a pattern stored in memory? Can I embroider a huge parrot by dividing the design into sections and telling the machine, now I'll do section 1A, then 1B, then 2A, and so on? The other thing I'm trying to figure out is how to use designs scanned from antique magazines. I see that the proprietary software allows the use of a digitizing tablet, but I've always found scanning to be easier. I already have a large-format flatbed scanner. So can I scan an antique public-domain design on the scanner, program stitches for the bitmap using the proprietary software, and then embroider that? Another thing I really want and have not so far found, is the kind of list computer manufacturers give you for parts. That is, a list of every single kind of foot, hoop, and other accessory not included with the machine but which can be used with the machine if you need that accessory, complete with prices. Thanks, Fran Lavolta Press http://www.lavoltapress.com Paula Praxis wrote: > I got the new Pfaff Creative Vision for Christmas last and I am loving it. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] New Sewing Machine
I've really only wanted fairly basic sewing machines before in my life, just good sturdy machines to sew with, the usual simple stitches. I started out with a treadle, then I had an incredibly sturdy early Singer electric with a bentwood case that in retrospect I wish I hadn't parted with, then I had a Sears Kenmore that I used for years, till I beat it to death. After that I bought a lemon model of a Bernina that never worked right, which I gather is not typical for Bernina and they soon took it off the market, but it's turned me off Berninas ever since. Within a month I traded it in for the Viking I have now. I like my current Viking, it's a good machine with the usual array of basic stitches, and really I mostly use the straight stitch. It still works great. It's just that I love embroidery, and I don't have time to hand embroider and still do everything else in life. I downloaded some materials on both the Viking Designer SE and the new Pfaff Creative Vision. They both look extremely tempting. They both have an incredible array of features. The proprietary software for both seems identical (probably third-party product licensed to both manufacturers), so that's not a consideration. The Pfaff Creative Vision does seem to have the largest field, but I'm biased in favor of the Viking because I already have a more basic Viking and I like it. So one thing I want to know is, suppose I want to embroider a large design that is not composed of repeating patterns/identical units. A design larger than the field, whatever that field is. Can either machine tile a pattern stored in memory? Can I embroider a huge parrot by dividing the design into sections and telling the machine, now I'll do section 1A, then 1B, then 2A, and so on? The other thing I'm trying to figure out is how to use designs scanned from antique magazines. I see that the proprietary software allows the use of a digitizing tablet, but I've always found scanning to be easier. I already have a large-format flatbed scanner. So can I scan an antique public-domain design on the scanner, program stitches for the bitmap using the proprietary software, and then embroider that? Another thing I really want and have not so far found, is the kind of list computer manufacturers give you for parts. That is, a list of every single kind of foot, hoop, and other accessory not included with the machine but which can be used with the machine if you need that accessory, complete with prices. Thanks, Fran Lavolta Press http://www.lavoltapress.com Paula Praxis wrote: > I got the new Pfaff Creative Vision for Christmas last and I am loving it. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Elizabethan frog closures
At 02:46 AM 5/1/2008, you wrote: >I always thought frog closures were a chinese invention? Learn >something new everyday! From the little research I can do with my slowly growing Chinese costuming library, I see ties closing clothing until the 16th c. or so. Even then, it's a simple monkey fist and loop. I am sure, that your fancy loops and twists of the modern frog are either Russian or Polish (or surrounds) in origin. The Chinese seem to prefer a simple button and loop type. They might have come west, but truly are very late, relatively speaking. Genie ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Elizabethan frog closures
> > On Apr 30, 2008, at 2:23 PM, Julie wrote: >> >> I made a coat dress/Spanish Surcoat which has frogs up the whole >> front opening. I'm trying to get documentation on the use of >> frogs in Elizabethan England. There are a couple of pictures in >> Janet Arnold. Does anyone have some links to either portraits or >> other primary type docs showing use of frogs and/or how the >> specific ones shown were tied? >> On May 1, 2008, at 5:39 AM, Wanda Pease wrote: > I love Frog closures too but they don't seem to be standard on English > Elizabethans. However, there is a painting of Elizabeth in a white > dress > with frogs, labeled "Polish Dress" and one of the fameous ones > where she is > much older, holding gloves, the dress of a light color with orange > frogging > (?). It depends on how you define frogging. We tend to think of frogs as a fancy piece of knotted cord on each side, one with a knotted ball of cord making a button, the other with a loop. The two examples you give are of a different design. Each has a flat horizontal piece of trim extending out in both directions from the center front with decorative tufts at the outer ends. At the center is a button and loop closure. This style is thought to have originated with Polish coats that had similar decorative fastenings (See Queen Eliz's Wardrobe Unlock'd pp. 136-8. She notes that the term "frogging" was not used in the 16th c.). The only other possibility I can think of is the portrait of Elizabeth of Valois showing knots of pearls down the center front: http://www.mystudios.com/women/abcde/sofonisba_valois.jpg It doesn't look as though the buttons and loops are integral with the knots (and I'm not sure how they could be, since the knots are strands of pearls), so it's still not quite a cognate with modern frogging in a structural sense. But it does have some of the aesthetic idea of decorative knots associated with fastenings. Can you extrapolate from this isolated example to justify modern frogging? Your call. Melanie Schuessler ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Standard reference books on embroidery history?
On Thu, 01 May 2008 08:18:45 -0500 "Catherine Kinsey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Pretty much everything that Jane said below :). > > I would add George W. Digby's "Elizabethan Embroidery (Faber & > Faber, > 1963) for a good broader perspective on blackwork and embroidery in > the > latter 16th C. > > Mamluk is a MUST! I don't have the titles in front of me but I > think a > couple of books by Kathleen Epstein/Staples touch on this too. > > Catherine It's my understanding that Thomas (?) Trevelon's book is being re-issued, and it is an amazing--if pricey--source. Jane Ashelford's book on Elizabethan dress (sorry, been up 5 minutes and can't remember the title) is a wonderful source for the contexts of embroidery. Arlys Arlys ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Standard reference books on embroidery history?
Quoting Robin Netherton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Ages ago I forwarded a question about blackwork to this list on behalf of a > colleague. You folks were very helpful, so I'm coming back with an > add-on query. > *snip* > > Bonus points if you can also point her to a good overview source on known > embroidery styles from, say, 1300-1600, based on surviving pieces, so she can > get a sense of other known styles of this period and compare them with what > she learns about "blackwork." I think she does not have much of a sense of > just how much is known about specific embroidery styles, and how > many types of embroidery there were in this period. > The "bible" is Schuette & Christensen's "A Pictorial History of Embroidery." It's chock full of pictures of extant pieces. Unfortunately most of the photos are in black and white, but they provide info on each piece -- colors, stitches, ground fabric type, etc. King & Levey's "The Victoria and Albert Museum's Collection: Embroidery in Britain from 1200-1750. All color pictures. :-D Bridgeman & Drury's Needlework "An Illustrated History" More text than either of the above books -- they're mostly "picture books." susan - Susan Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Abraham Baldwin Agricultural College Division of Science and Math http://www.goldsword.com/sfarmer/Trillium/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] WAS Sorry, had to laugh, NOW costume in NH
Oh, I forgot-- there's a living history museum in Portsmouth too, Strawbery Banke (that was what the original settlers called the place when they came over in the early 1600s, because of the wild strawberries growing everywhere). They have a new exhibition space with occasional costume shown, plenty in storage, plus a few roleplayers (ever-shifting number). It's unique in that it doesn't focus on one time period, but rather shows the history of the place from 1600s up to 1950. Each house is a different date, most are original, some were moved to the site. Most houses do not have roleplayers, but there's kit for Rev War, early 1800s, 1830s, 1870s, 19teens, WWII (I know, because I used to do their reproduction costumes!) Also Plimoth Plantation, gem of living history museums. Everything Williamsburg should be and isn't. They have an incredible program going on now, a collaborative embroidery of a 17th c. jacket (MUST find the time to get on that!!! Sigh...) Astrida *** Astrida Schaeffer, Assistant Director Museum of Art, University of New Hampshire Paul Creative Arts Center 30 College Road Durham, NH 03824-3538 603-862-0310 FAX: 603-862-2191 www.unh.edu/art-gallery *** ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Standard reference books on embroidery history?
Robin, Does she have German? How about: Mit Nadel und Faden: Kulturgeschichte der klassischen Handarbeiten by Marianne Stradal ISBN-13: 978-3451216084 My German is quite rusty so I'll admit that I bought this for the pictures. It seemed to have many outside the usual survey stuff. Library catalogs say that this has bibliographic references. It might be good for trianglulating definitions. Cheers, Mary Robin sent: > She asks for recommendations of good published sources that > will give her a > sense of what blackwork is and when it was done, based on > specific examples > (art, documents, and especially surviving artifacts). She > needs sources she > can cite in a formal paper, so Web sites will not do. > Neither will how-to > books that include a little historical background (e.g. > that something was > done in X century) but do not provide sources or evidence. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Standard reference books on embroidery history?
Pretty much everything that Jane said below :). I would add George W. Digby's "Elizabethan Embroidery (Faber & Faber, 1963) for a good broader perspective on blackwork and embroidery in the latter 16th C. Mamluk is a MUST! I don't have the titles in front of me but I think a couple of books by Kathleen Epstein/Staples touch on this too. Catherine At 01:43 PM 1/05/2008, you wrote: >Ages ago I forwarded a question about blackwork to this list on behalf of a >colleague. You folks were very helpful, so I'm >coming back with an add-on query. > >My colleague has continued her work and is approaching it from a different >angle now, and for background, she needs to bring herself up to speed on >what's known about embroidery in late medieval and early modern Western >Europe, especially England. She is especially interested in seeing how >blackwork fits into that context. > >She asks for recommendations of good published sources that will give her a >sense of what blackwork is and when it was done, based on specific examples >(art, documents, and especially surviving artifacts). She needs sources she >can cite in a formal paper, so Web sites will not do. Neither will how-to >books that include a little historical background (e.g. that something was >done in X century) but do not provide sources or evidence. > >She particularly needs definitions: What specific characteristics lead >historians to class the needlework on a 1550 shirt (for example) in the >category of "blackwork" style (as the term is understood), while another >example of embroidery that happens to be black would not be considered >"blackwork"? A source that explains the stitches, motifs, patterns, etc. that >are routinely associated by historians with the >term "blackwork" would be great. Such a beasty doesn't really exist. There isn't one or even two books that cover all this area. And not many articles either, not academic ones anyway. General History of European Embroidey at this time: Bridgeman, Harriet; and Drury, Elizabeth. (eds). ? ?Needlework, an Illustrated History?, (London: Paddington Press, 1978) - section on Great Briton Schuette, Marie and M?ller-Christensen, Sigrid. ?The Art of Embroidery? (London: Thames and Hudson, 1964) Blackwork History/Techniques Some of the best background about Blackwork comes from a how-to book: Gostelow, Mary. Blackwork. (New York: Van Nostrand Reinhold, 1976) Geddes, Elisabeth, and Moyra McNeill. Blackwork Embroidery. (New York: Dover, 1976) I also have a handout which describes what I consider to be the three main types of blackwork during the Elizabethan period with examples and details for find original institutions hold the egs. See "Embroidery for Clothing - Non-Counted Blackwork" under "Class Handouts" on http://needleprayse.webcon.net.au/research/index.html >(I realize that some people could argue that you can call almost anything >monochrome "blackwork" if you stretch the definition far enough, but she's >interested in what's traditionally assumed by the accepted definitions, not >ways to revise it.) One thing to remember, most sources are heavily biased towards looking at early period Blackwork ie early Tudor under Henry VIII. You can find alot about that but much less about the later period stuff. Really there aren't any standard definitions of what constitutes blackwork. >I am not asking anyone here to answer those questions for her ... even if you >did, she'd still need published authorities she can cite in a formal paper. >And she really needs to get up to speed on this on her own, and do her own >reading. So all I'm bothering you folks for are recommendations for >academic-quality reference books. She'll be getting them ILL, so cost and >availability are not issues. > >Bonus points if you can also point her to a good overview source on known >embroidery styles from, say, 1300-1600, based on surviving pieces, so she can >get a sense of other known styles of this period and compare them with what >she learns about "blackwork." I think she does not have much of a sense of >just how much is known about specific embroidery >styles, and how many types of >embroidery there were in this period. My website: Historical Needlework Resources - above period broken down by location, date and techniques. Some of the links to extant pieces may be broken as the museums etc keep changing their databases, but it will get her to the correct institution where she can search. The quickest way to find extant examples is by looking in the "Period" section, which is then broken down by location and technique. >No need for anything beyond Europe or outside the 1300-1600 range. In relation to blackwork, I think that would be a mistake - look at the Mamluk embroidery such as the one on my site: http://medieval.webcon.net.au/loc_middle_east_mamluk.html and compare to the 16th C modelbuch patterns used a source by embroiderers in the 16th Century - alm
Re: [h-cost] WAS Sorry, had to laugh, NOW costume in NH
> Not to glory in your pain, but I'm very relieved to hear this--the husband > and I recently decided for sure NOT to move to WA (going to NH instead!) > and > we both get pressure/weather migraines. Sour grapes and all, but I'm glad > to have one less reason not to regret our decision! > > -E > PS--anyone have any suggestions for costume or museum related destinations > in the northeast? Where in NH? Boston's Museum of Fine Arts has a costume collection, lots of small historical societies (we're filthy with them up here) have them too... Old York Historical in York, ME, several of the historic houses in Portsmouth, NH... The university museum here at Univ. of NH (sadly, NOT the museum -I- work for...though I get to play sometimes...I make museum mannequins on the side...) has a small collection. Peabody-Essex Museum in Salem, MA... Brick Store Museum in Kennebunk, ME... Dartmouth has a collection too, I believe... NH Historical Society in Concord, NH Not a lot of places will have things on display, but most will let you in to look if you're researching something or ask. Astrida *** Astrida Schaeffer, Assistant Director Museum of Art, University of New Hampshire Paul Creative Arts Center 30 College Road Durham, NH 03824-3538 603-862-0310 FAX: 603-862-2191 www.unh.edu/art-gallery *** ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Royal gowns
Talk of royal clothing styles has me thinking, does anyone know if any of the dresses worn by Elizabeth and Margaret during the 50's are available in pattern form? Sidney ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Elizabethan frog closures
I love Frog closures too but they don't seem to be standard on English Elizabethans. However, there is a painting of Elizabeth in a white dress with frogs, labeled "Polish Dress" and one of the fameous ones where she is much older, holding gloves, the dress of a light color with orange frogging (?). Then there is one of the Russian ambassadors. I believe they are of Chinese origin, but spread west and north by our pre-16th Century date. Gadget!? From Folkwear? Avarice rears its expensive head. Wanda > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Behalf Of S Young > Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 12:47 AM > To: Historical Costume > Subject: Re: [h-cost] Elizabethan frog closures > > > I always thought frog closures were a chinese invention? Learn > something new > everyday! > > Sidney > > > On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 4:23 AM, Julie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I made a coat dress/Spanish Surcoat which has frogs up the whole front > > opening. I'm trying to get documentation on the use of frogs > in Elizabethan > > England. There are a couple of pictures in Janet Arnold. Does > anyone have > > some links to either portraits or other primary type docs showing use of > > frogs and/or how the specific ones shown were tied? > > > > I'm using some very clever doo dads carried by FolkWear for tying these > > frogs. Much easier than just on a macrame board. I can't find period > > pictures of exactly what I'm doing, but will settle for close . > > > > Thanks > > Julie in Ramona (San Diego) > > > > > ___ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Elizabethan frog closures
I always thought frog closures were a chinese invention? Learn something new everyday! Sidney On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 4:23 AM, Julie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I made a coat dress/Spanish Surcoat which has frogs up the whole front > opening. I'm trying to get documentation on the use of frogs in Elizabethan > England. There are a couple of pictures in Janet Arnold. Does anyone have > some links to either portraits or other primary type docs showing use of > frogs and/or how the specific ones shown were tied? > > I'm using some very clever doo dads carried by FolkWear for tying these > frogs. Much easier than just on a macrame board. I can't find period > pictures of exactly what I'm doing, but will settle for close . > > Thanks > Julie in Ramona (San Diego) > > ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Janet Arnold Costuming Colloquium in Florence,
He can wait if he truly loves you :) On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 10:45 AM, Betsy Marshall < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Honeymoon trip! > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 6:20 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [h-cost] Janet Arnold Costuming Colloquium in Florence, > > > Would so love to go, but have a slight hitch in that am getting married in > November... > > *sigh* > > :o) > > > > > In a message dated 30/04/2008 20:43:42 GMT Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > I have met some people who are saving up to go to the big event in > November > for Janet Arnold. Here is the link: > http://www.fondazione-delbianco.org/inglese/InsertNews/Janet-Arnold.htm > > I was wondering if anyone else was going to this event? I am hoping to > get > to Florence during this time, as I will be in England so why not hop > down? > > There is rumor a new book in which Ms. Arnold was working on before her > demise will be unveiled at this event. > > Anyone else here of this rumor? > > I would give my eyeteeth to get there, but if not I want to give people > some > money in case the book is shown and they are allowed to purchase it. > > > Cilean > > > > > > > ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] New Sewing Machine
I think a friend of mine just bought the Bernina equivalent, it has an extension arm of some kind and she can program it up via her PC to do al kinds of embroidery and quilting. I just after a new machine myself but just something basic. Sidney On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 4:45 PM, Paula Praxis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I got the new Pfaff Creative Vision for Christmas last and I am loving it. > It has - I am told - the largest hoop of any home sewing machine. If > learning a new machine and software to go with it is an adventure to you I > highly recommend this machine. I'm also new to the machine embroidery > scene. Digitizing your own designs is so much easier than it use to be, I > bought the Floriani Embroidery suite Pro at quilt show at a very good > discount. I learn something new every time I open it up and go through a > tutorial lesson. > > Anniecat > > > > Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 17:39:39 -0700> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [h-cost] New Sewing Machine> > I'm > looking at the new Pfaff Creative Vision and the Viking Designer SE. > The > proprietary software looks on the face of it to be identical. (I > so far > have not seen great reviews of Corel's.) Do you have any > preferences as to > which machine is the best?> > Fran> > Monie wrote:> > I own the Viking > Designer SE, I love it so if you have the cash? I would > > Most assuredly > state pick it, but also? Since you were mentioning a larger> > field for > embroidery? The newest Pfaff you should look at because at the> > moment it > has the largest field.> > > > I went to several stores to play with the > machines, once they see you are> > doing this not to 'play' but to see which > machine is right for you?> > Typically they allow you to stitch out a > design. > > > > Also? When speaking of embroidery machines it is more the > program that you> > have that wi! > ll also achieve results. If you are into or know Coreldraw,> > there is > an embroidery machine version. Also Pfaff and Husqvarna have their> > new > program 4D which is very fun I am working with it, as well as> > Generations > and well I bet a bunch more.> > > > So you don't have to get the TOP end > machine, you can still get awesome> > results with the top end program!> > > > > Cilean> > > > > > > > __ > ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
