Re: [h-cost] 2 piece sleeves
It´s a modern jacket? From what I´ve learned, in modern custom-made clothing it´s rather coincidence whether the seams match or not. It´s just a design issue. Industrially made garments often have them because they use mock-ups until they achieve matching seams. Hanna At 00:50 06.06.2008, you wrote: >This isn't really a historical costume question, but it's been ages >since I belonged to a general sewing/patternmaking email list. If >anyone knows of one that currently exists, I'd appreciate a link. > >My question concerns a jacket I am patterning and making for myself. >Actually, I am using a couple commercial patterns and adapting them. >I have a 2 piece sleeve and a bodice with front and back princess seams >that end at the armhole. I really can't adjust the front seam >downward any more than it already is and it isn't matching the front >sleeve seam. The back seams don't match either but I've frequently >garments where they don't match in the back or they don't match in the >front but they match on the opposite side. I know 2 piece sleeves are >often seen in 19th century onward women's garments so I thought I'd see >where you all stand on this issue. Do you really think the seams need >to match on either the front or the back? > >Sylvia > >___ >h-costume mailing list >h-costume@mail.indra.com >http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] 2 piece sleeves
They're off 1.5" on one side to 2" on the other. On Jun 5, 2008, at 6:53 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 6/5/2008 7:17:46 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > How far off are they from matching? > > > > > This is a good question. If they are off just a little, it can look > like a > mistake. But then a little is easy to fix and move so they do match. > If they > look like they never were intended to match, then...OK! > > > > **Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking > with > Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. > (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?&NCID=aolfod000302) > ___ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] 2 piece sleeves
In a message dated 6/5/2008 7:17:46 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How far off are they from matching? This is a good question. If they are off just a little, it can look like a mistake. But then a little is easy to fix and move so they do match. If they look like they never were intended to match, then...OK! **Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?&NCID=aolfod000302) ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] 2 piece sleeves
At 03:50 PM 6/5/2008, you wrote: >This isn't really a historical costume question, but it's been ages >since I belonged to a general sewing/patternmaking email list. If >anyone knows of one that currently exists, I'd appreciate a link. > >My question concerns a jacket I am patterning and making for myself. >Actually, I am using a couple commercial patterns and adapting them. >I have a 2 piece sleeve and a bodice with front and back princess seams >that end at the armhole. I really can't adjust the front seam >downward any more than it already is and it isn't matching the front >sleeve seam. The back seams don't match either but I've frequently >garments where they don't match in the back or they don't match in the >front but they match on the opposite side. I know 2 piece sleeves are >often seen in 19th century onward women's garments so I thought I'd see >where you all stand on this issue. Do you really think the seams need >to match on either the front or the back? > >Sylvia Personally, I wouldn't worry about matching them if you think they look okay. I'd baste the jacket together, put it on, and have someone take a look at it. If they don't see a problem, I'd go ahead and sew it up. How far off are they from matching? Could you add a row or two of plain stitching paralleling the seams to make them come together visually? Joan Jurancich [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] 2 piece sleeves
This isn't really a historical costume question, but it's been ages since I belonged to a general sewing/patternmaking email list. If anyone knows of one that currently exists, I'd appreciate a link. My question concerns a jacket I am patterning and making for myself. Actually, I am using a couple commercial patterns and adapting them. I have a 2 piece sleeve and a bodice with front and back princess seams that end at the armhole. I really can't adjust the front seam downward any more than it already is and it isn't matching the front sleeve seam. The back seams don't match either but I've frequently garments where they don't match in the back or they don't match in the front but they match on the opposite side. I know 2 piece sleeves are often seen in 19th century onward women's garments so I thought I'd see where you all stand on this issue. Do you really think the seams need to match on either the front or the back? Sylvia ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] 1837 Underwear
Metal split/2-part corset busks were invented in 1829 by a French corsetier, so it's certainly possible, even though they weren't immediately widespread. Being a fashion plate, this would likely show the most avant garde features! The loop & post type of fastening for the metal 2-part corset busk wasn't invented until 1848, though, so don't imagine anything available in 1837 as looking exactly like a modern busk. Unfortunately, I'm not sure exactly what it did look like! What area is this plate from? I don't know enough about the outerwear fashions of the era to be able to tell if it could be French. Not that it matters; English corsetiers could certainly have made use of a French invention, but it would make it slightly likelier. However, there were several attempts in the 1830s to make quick corset removal easier, and to make it easier to lace the corset without help, so it's barely possible this is some other gadget. (Can't imagine what, though; it doesn't fit any of the ones I'm familiar with.) -E House ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] 1490s Spanish help
On an educated guess, since you didn't post an image you are working from, but I am thinking the skirt also opens in front, as a slit down from the laced opening a short ways, just enough to help you get the dress over the head. That is what I will be doing with my 1500s working dress I am working on. Kimiko --- On Thu, 6/5/08, Bonnie Booker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Bonnie Booker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [h-cost] 1490s Spanish help > To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Thursday, June 5, 2008, 8:39 AM > I'm working on a 1490 Hispanic court gown. I'm > getting ready to attach > the skirt. It is open in the front and laces in the front. > It is open > like the German gowns with laces across. Can anyone tell me > how the > skirt opens? > > -- > Aspasia Moonwind > ___ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] 1490s Spanish help
I'm working on a 1490 Hispanic court gown. I'm getting ready to attach the skirt. It is open in the front and laces in the front. It is open like the German gowns with laces across. Can anyone tell me how the skirt opens? -- Aspasia Moonwind ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] 1837 Underwear
http://www.dressing-history.co.uk/pages/images/3428162.jpg The fashion plate above, dated as 1837, shows a lady in a corset. Does anybody have any idea what it is that fastens her corset at the front, as there is obviously something there, but metal corset busks were not, I believe it is generally thought, used until the 1850s? Thanks Serena ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
